haven't just introduced parts of his budget because they could end up splitting the democratic party in a very hostile way. >> maybe a lot of those older white social security and medicare resip cecipients would happy if they did that. >> a lot of us still view -- there are too many people in washington still think older voters are fdr voters. this is a base republican vote now. seniors are a base republican vote. our way too early poll of christie and hillary -- a reminder, one of the only through groups that christie licked hillary on was among seniors. this is a rock ribbed republican group how. and so i think you're right, i think republicans are afraid of turning him off. >> i want to go back to 2016 in our way too early poll in a

moment. but before that, i want for talk about social issues for a second. but again when we started covering politics, social issues were murder for democrats. now they're offensive weapons. i want you to look at where this is headed and think ten years in the future, will gay marriage be legal in every state and will marijuana be legal in every state. >> wow. let me get there indirectly. you look at surveys of millennial voters. you'll see they're not like their older siblings or parents in the sense that they're not anti-government like conservative, but not pro government like liberals. but very skeptical government. because their life experience has been that government hasn't functioned well. they have seen dysfunctional democratic government, they have seen dysfunctional republican governments. p so the thing is for republicans, you can say, gee,

republicans could have a fair shot at them. but in generation is also very libertarian. and i don't think we need two liberal parties. but if republicans would just figure out -- >> ted cruz says we have two already. >> turn the volume down. just pull it back a little bit. the pro-life community isn't going to start voting democratic if helps just sort of push it down the priority list and talk about it a lot less. if they would do that, i think they would do a whole lot better, but they can't seem to get themselves to do that. every state? no, probably not every state. but i've been stunned as how same-sex marriage has caught up. i never would have dreamed it would have caught on and moved as fast. >> think about 2004. >> yeah. never thought. so the thing is -- and i think this country is changing faster than we've ever seen it before.

and so these things will be in most states. >> what do you think, chuck, ten years from now? >> i think it's legal nationally. supreme court basically almost opened the door with prop 8. i think the next time gay marriage gets to the supreme court, they will essentially -- it will get to this whole recognition -- it will get to federal recognition of it. it will be more where you can't ban it. marijuana, i think that's state by state. but the country was slowly thank to technology frankly moving more into a pro-life position. i asked an activist, what would happen if you had a republican

candidate who said i'm pro-life and i don't believe any exceptions. but i'm for giving away free birth control to everybody. i don't want there to be any unwanted pregnancy. would you work against or for that candidate? this person said they would work against them. so it tells you that somehow the republicans allowed themselves to get caught in this contraception trap. democrats don't have to talk about abortion anymore. they can talk about sexual freedoms. the virginia governor's race, cuccinelli won on the economy, on health care, got crushed on abortion. it was the number three issue. but who won the election? mcauliffe. abortion is the catch-all. >> let's get way too early. 2016. is hillary going to run and if she does is it a lay skr-up for

to win the nomination. >> i think there is a one in three chance that she doesn't. so that means yes. everybody thinks that every decision is 100% political. when she'll turn 69 years old two week before the election, the same age rop ald reagan was when he first got elected. and i'm not saying this is an issue used against her. but i was talking to a friend of theirs who said if his and her health is good, she will run. i would sort of modify that to say if his and her health is good and she feels up to it, she will run. but that last few month as secretary of state were pretty tough to her. she has to feel like do i feel up to this because certainly running for president mf- >> and if she runs, is she the nominee? >> i think in all probability. in terms of biden, for joe

biden, if hillary doesn't run, i don't see how he could make himself not run. he just wouldn't be able to help himself. even though not running makes a whole lot of accepsense for joe biden, i think it would be an easier decision to make if she runs. but i still think there is a one in three chance she doesn't. but if she does, you'll see a mark o'malley, maybe howard dean. you'll see some people in. i don't think you'd see cuomo or another woman. >> let's talk about the republican side. in our poll, chris christie got a third of the vote. a third said they would vote for somebody else. but it was very heavy to the northeast. so how do you handicap what the

republican field is right now. >> i think there's probably -- you have your establishment, only really two guys that occupy the space, chris christie and jeb bush. automatic establishment money. and i'm somebody who thinks that jeb is probably -- first of all, he is thinking a lot harder about this than people realize. and his only shot at the white house is if somebody named clinton is running on the other side. and he knows that. >> do you agree with me that jeb has a better chance of going the distance than chris christie? >> i do. i think he's more disciplined. i think he can straddle the fence and unite the party. then you have sort of the middle ground guys, the secretary teono would be there if christie falters. that is where scott walker occupies that space. he's the guy that i would go to vegas now and put ten bucks on because you can probably get him for 20:1 odds.

then there is i think the tea party -- i know everybody is high on cruz. i just assume that he's more on the palin track where it's like it's so much -- he'll just burn out. where rand paul feels like he's built to last. >> beyond the three we talked about, jeb, chrischristie, walk who else could legitimately expect to win the nomination? >> i think rapped pand paul cane nomination. his biggest problem is social issues and people close to him acknowledge that. history of his father, he's not pro-life enough, that he's too much of a state's rights guy. so he'll have to navigate tougher waters there. but i think he can potentially

do this. he has a libertarian streak people forget about. you can see how he pulls this off. the hardest constituency for him will be the evangelical wing of the party. >>. >> do you agree, do you think rapped paul cou rand paul could win? >> if i had to pick two, i'd pick scott walker and rand paul. i think the chances of jeb bush running are under 10%. i think he's intrigued by it, he'd love to be president, but i think there are just family issues that don't relate to his last name that he just sort of -- it would be difficult for him to run. >> so you think paul could win the nomination? >> i think ted cruz has redefined the term extremism in the republican party. and i think rand paul has shown himself the last few months to be a lot more pragmatic, a lot

more sophisticated a politician. you talk to republicans in the senate, they will say in the senate conference lunches, he'll sit next to or near senator mcconnell. i thought it was going to be another -- they get along very well. the guy is trying to be a team player. i i think he's becoming more acceptable and ted cruz is helping him get there. >> i'd pick walker and paul. >> do you think republicans, donor, voters, everybody could look at rand paul and say he could win the white house? >> i don't know. and paul's supporters will tell you against hillary clinton, he could run to her left on for policy, he could overperform with the youth vote. but i think there is obviously ways you can picture out the democrats could exploit it. and that's his biggest leap. how does he get the conventional

dope n donor, the arthur blanks of the world. can he get that money crowd who are big jeb bush and christie people. could he get them, i don't know. and i think that here's what's interesting about him. he's spending a lot of time courting these people. he's trying to answer their skepticism. and so that's why i don't rule him out. but one more dark horse. i think we underestimate mike pence. i could particulkocould picture loses re-election, jeb doesn't run, pence could be that other governor. >> putting personalities aside, i don't think we know the value

of the republican nomination will be in 2016 or the democratic nomination. we know historically five times out of six the party that has had the white house for two consecutive terms has lost it. so history ought to argue for republicans. but on the other hand, if they haven't fixed their brand, if they haven't fixed their problems with some of the specific demographic groups, they can't do that. on the other hand, we also know that president obama's numbers are right down there where george w. bush's were at this point. and there is a lot of fatigue outrs will be open to the possibility of a third democratic term. to me i think these are the dynamics that will drive 2014 and 2016. >> count me skeptical on rapped paul and join me in thanking

them. live kufshcoverage continueh the senate banking subcommittee. the heari ining starts live at p.m. eastern. alsole remarks from ben berna e bernanke. you can see it live 7:00. eastern. earlier today, there was a hearing on the health care weap website and security concerns. here is more now. >> i want to talk to you about the topic of this hearing now for a few minutes and that is the issue of security.

and i think i heard you say both in your opening and response to questioning by the chairman, i just wanted to ask again, have there been vulnerabilities that have been discovered since the website unveiled on october 1st? >> security vulnerabilities? >> yes. >> have not necessarily been reported in terms of it being a security threat. i think there was some misuse of terminology of something like 16 incidents reported that in the previous dhs testimony a couple days ago. but they were actually incidents involving disclosure of pii information and it wasn't due to the result of anyone trying to attack the website. >> what was it the result of? >> it was dealing with training issues at the call center or we have a system issue where if you had similar user names, we

had -- and we chose a special character at the end of that user name, for example, if your name was smith and you chose an add sign at the user name, statement that add sign was treated like a wild card search. so it returned log-in information about someone else. but that's since reported has been fixed. >> that problem has been fixed so that's in the happening anymore. you've been at the agency how long, sir? >> approximately 20 years. >> and in working on the other sensitive areas, is this common that sometime there might be a little bump like this? >> fairly common. >> what does the agency come when that's identified? >> we have an stens suffer set of processes and controls in place.that's identified? >> we have an stens suffer set of processes and controls in place. if there are security breaches

versus personally identifiable information type incidents, data loss. >> there is continuing testing, is that right? >> correct. >> you're performing assessments for cms? >> correct. >> and what that does is it gives the contractors an opportunity to identify and resolve security vulnerabilities, is that correct? >> i think what the benefit is that we use a set of contractors to independently test the system so that we're not taking the words of let's say for example qssi themselves. so the i said tendependent test provides a -- >> is this ongoing? >> yes about that. >> that was part of a hearing helder years ago today.that. >> that was part of a hearing helder years ago today. you can see the entire event

later in our schedule or anytime on g online, cspan.org. today is the 150th anniversary of the gettysburg address. look for our coverage ynext wee thanksgiving day at 4:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern on c-span3 american history tv. next remarks from john scary on the kerry on the future of women in afghanistan. it's 40 minutes.on the kerry on the future of women in afghanistan. it's 40 minutes. i want to once again thank the university for your active

leadership not only on behalf of the intellectual study of and analysis of issues of importance to our world, but your leadership in the civic life, not only of washington, but of our country and indeed across the globe. this is yet another goexample o that and i welcome the members of the diplomatic corps and in particular all of the women of and from afghanistan who have joined us today. i'm monitored to be the honorary co-chair along with laura bush. mrs. bush has been the real inspiration and driving force behind the council from the very beginning. and the council represents a commitment, a public-private partnership to try to support

the women of afghanistan in the transition that they are undergoing. we can point to a lot of progress. some of it mentioned in the sle excellent video that was just shown. but we're well aware this is a serious turning point for all the people of afghanistan, but in particular for the hard-fought gains that women and girls have been able to enjoy. and what we can do as measucan to support these women and men. when she finished her remarkable tenure at the state department as ambassador for global women's issues, she and i talked about what she might do next. the word rest never entered her

vocabulary. we talked more about what we could do to continue promoting the role of women in peace and security, a cause that we both care about deeply. and that's why here at george up to we have seen the establishment up establishment of the first ever institute for women peace and security in the entire world insofar as we nknow. i'm just following her wherever she goes and am proud to be the honorary founding chair. the institute is co-sponsoring today's event. but the institute is much more than events even though they are important. it's really going to lead the way to establish a scholarship that we can look to following up on the action plan pointing out the benefits to be gained by

including women this peace making and peace keeping. recognizing women security needs, bringing the world particularly defense and intelligence analysts on board with diplomats and development experts and academics about what more we can do to support the security of women. and tone gamiengaging them in p building. as you saw in the video, there was that wonderful quote that men and women are like two wings on the same bird. i think i'm going to shamelessly appropriate that. but it is true. it is absolutely a vivid image to keep in our minds. you cannot move forward whether you're talking economically, politically, culturally, security wise without both wings flapping.

and what we have the opportunity to do through the council, through the gormg down institute, is to partner with governments around the world particularly those involved in the international coalition or in support of the human rights work that has gone on in afghanistan. in order to keep that hope and promise alive to women and girls in afghanistan that they will not go back, they will not be force the back into their homes, denied education and health care, stripped of their rights to participate in the economy and the political system of their country. and in so doing, we have a great friend and ally in this effort who has been a champion of afghanistan and particularly afghan women's rights for many years. he also happens to hold the job that i know a little something

about. he is someone who has been just tireless in pursuit of peace, in trying to tackle some of the most difficult problems on the global agenda. and i'm delighted that he is with us here today. he is no stranger to afghanistan and has just last month gone back to kabul, negotiating with president karzai over the bilateral security agreement that is absolutely core to protecting the security of afghan women and girls. john kerry's enduring commitment to afghanistan is america's especially g enduring commitment. he understands we cannot walk away from this country or region when our troops come home, that we cannot turn our backs on the people of afghanistan, especially the women. if their rights and opportunities are yuundermined, the entire country's stability and prosperity will be

undermined, as well. so it is my great delight to introduce someone who is known as s. standing for secretary of state. and someone who i know sends a strong message just by being here, but beyond the words that you will hear of his understanding and commitment, there a real passion. we have an advocate for the women and girls of afghanistan in secretary john kerry. [ applause ] >> thank you very much. thank you very much, hillary, for a very, very generous introduction. thank you most of all for the

remarkable work you've done. i think you're over here. that's my job, to seat the former first lady sect secretar. what a pleasure to be here. one of my favorite venues of the world. former first lady bush, great to be here with you. to our ambassadors and everybody else, i'm happy to be here. for all the men studying here at georgetown who sat in or sit in classrooms where bill clinton sat, study hard, become governor of your state and maybe you can marry one of the country's most remarkable secretaries of state. [ applause ]

i think everybody here knows that nobody has done more to advance the cause of women and the cause of affair began woman for example with laura bush than secretary clinton. she took the helm of the state department at a particularly challenging final. a critical moment in the history of the war. and she has worked tirelessly to remind all of us that this fight is not just waninged on the battle field. it's a fight for the lives of afghanistan's people and their future. and a fight above all for universal values and aspirations and i think we all owe her a tremendous get of grat tut for the gratitude for the work that she's done. thank you, hillary. appreciate it. [ applause ]

i want to that can georgetown institute for women peace and security. i want to thank the u.s. afghan women's council, the george w. bush institute, and the alliance in support of the afghan people for co-hosting and coming together to bring this remarkable event together here today. and i want to thank all of you. you are a remarkable group of women and i was pleased to meet a couple of you in afghanistan. thank you for coming here and i know people will really enjoy hearing the program later. i want to express my gratitude also to former first lady laura bush. as hillary did in her comments, she really helped lead the effort to advance opportunities for where i am in afrg. and if you haven't seen it yet today, she has a terrific op-ed in today's "washington post". madame first lady, we thank you very much for your leadership, also. [ applause ]

and i want to pay particular tribute to our nation's first ambassador at large for global women's issues and her successor who has just returned from afghanistan. these extraordinary women have lived their lives every single day to make sure that all women can live free of violence. we all know that creating opportunities for women is not just the right thing to do. it's also a strategic necessary.

societies where women are empowered to exercise their rights are more prosperous and more stable. not occasionally, but always. and nowhere is the pursuit of this vision more important and in many ways more compelling and immediate and possibly than in afghanistan. if i had to blind into a district in afghanistan and i could only ask one question to determine how secure it was, how much progress it was making, i would ask what proportion of the girls here are able to go to school. there is no question in my mind that investing in afghan women is the surest way to guarantee that afghanistan will sustain the gains of the last decade and never again become a safe haven for international terrorists. on my many trips to afghanistan

as a senator and secretary of sta state, i've met with business people, diplomats, our brave troo troops as well as our brave shared participation by the international community all of hoom have sacrificed for the promise of a safe and secure afghanistan. but i actually come back to the time when i met a remarkable woman who is changing afghanistan. roya is chief executive of a software development firm called ci