who is in the top 10% of his or her class. that's gone, too. we're going to bring some of that back. thank you. >> we got time for one more question. this gentleman. >> hi, mayor barry. you started tonight saying one of the reasons you wrote the book is to say the who of marion barry. my question kind of springs from that. what do you think is the biggest misconception people have about marion barry over the years? >> the biggest misconception is that most of my life is taken up with junk. and scandals and alleged corruption. that's -- most people know me,

even in d.c., from a 15-second sound bite, and nationally, the united states government in terms of the vista, and we know more about that, too, sent that tape to every ambassador in the world, to every president of every country in the world, and sent it to the other propaganda of the united states government, one of those places, and ran on television. that's people's memory. but some of the barry haters have contributed to it, too. and that's all part of what you have to go through. i'm not fazed by it. satisfy the people of washington, d.c., as long as i

give them some hope and some help, then they can write what they want to write about me. i don't care. [ applause ] you get that, mike? i don't care. >> i want to thank you so much for coming here tonight, and i also wanted to give you -- this is actually a very precious object. i don't know if you've gotten one of these before. it's the national press club coffee cup. >> i've got two of those. >> now you've got triplets. thank you so much for coming, and we're going to be outside signing your books. sorry, right over here signing your books. coming up here on c-span3,

author edward klein on his book, "blood feud: the clintons vs. the obamas." that will be followed by a look at the resignation of president nixon 40 years ago this month, beginning with his television address to the nation, followed by a press discussion with some of the reporters who followed the story. coming up tonight on "american history tv" in primetime, a look at the early american republic, beginning with advice from the founding fathers and yale professor joanne freeman discusses alexander hamilton, followed by professor watson jenson teaching a class on political unrest in the early american republic. and later, a classroom lecture on alcohol use in colonial america with university of california professor allen taylor. that's tonight at 8:00 eastern on "american history tv" in primetime.

while congress is on break this month, c-span's primetime features a wide range of political views and topics. this week, veterans health care and detectives from the center for disease control and prevention. we visit the atlanta press club for the future of news, and we take a history tour looking at the civil war. c-span primetime, monday through friday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. and let us know what you think about the programs you're watching. call us at 202-626-3400 or e-mail us. join the c-span conversation. like us on facebook, follow us on twitter. this month, c-span presents debates on what makes america great, evolution and genetically modified foods, issue spotlight with in-depth looks at veterans' health care, irs oversight, student loan debt, and campus sexual assault. new perspectives on issues including global warming, voting rights, fighting infectious

disease, and food safety. and our history tour, showing sights and sounds from america's historic places. find our tv schedule one week in advance at c-span.org, and let us know what you think about the programs you're watching. call us at 202-626-3400 or e-mail us at comments@c-span.org. join the conversation, like us on facebook, follow us on twitter. edward klein's book, "blood feud," examines the relationship between the obamas and clintons, arguing animosity between the political families has created j rifto in the democrat -- this i 45 minutes. takin our next guest joins us fro new york and he's the author of a new book taking a look at relationships between the clintons and the obamas. it's "blood feud," the title, edward klein joining us from ne:

york. mr. klein, welcome.ntion >> thank you for having tome. >> why did you turn your uest: attention to these two families? >> well, the media has spent a a great deal of time writing and talking about the feud that o exists in the republicanf party between the tea party and the establishment wings of that bee party, but has spent virtually no time at all on the feud that's going on between the two great democratic families, the obamas and the clintons, and that feud is going to affect who's going to get the democratic nomination and maybet even who is in the white house in 2016. so i thought it was an important story that deserved a book. >> so, mr. klein, what is the o feud naover, as you see it?s >> the feud is over many o different things.ds first of all, it's a personal t feud between the clintons and the obamas over the kinds of

words that they hurled at each other during the 2008 d presidential primary, in which the obamas called bill clinton a racist and bill clinton called -- and hillary called, ty obama a fairytale. they've never really forgotten those slurs, but even more important, there's an ideological battle between the left wing of the party that's f represented by barack obama and the more centrist, center left wing of the party, that's represented by the clintons. so this is a battle not only over personal slights and revenge, but also over ideologya >> when it comes to those ideologies, you say president obama is more left of center ane then president clinton more centrist in its approach, and m those two kind of expose a

themselves asnd negotiations between the two came to the pr forefront, not only over his t wife and her future, but also about support that president clinton would ultimately give to president obama in his re-election campaign. >> that's right. as we know in 2008, i'm sorry, in 2012, i meant to say, de president clinton made a rousing speech for barack obama at the democratic national convention.n and the media played that as though these two wings of the e party were dea burying the hatc and now were united. golf that was part of a deal that sd bill clinton and barack obama struck during a golf game in oro which bill said he would support obama in return for obama's t support of hillary in 2016, so d it was a political orangement that fell apart after the election when barack obama

changed his mind and decided hed was going to keep his options na open in 2016 and he has not poka backed hillary clinton and her march towards the nomination. >> and part of that meeting that you spoke about talks about president clinton's viewsa of ti meeting, one of the quotes from the book, it's partial from the book, saying that president clinton said, "i hate that man g obama more than any man i've ever met, but the important thing to keep in mind is obama's decision to invite me out for aa game of golf is a sign of weakness, since any deal we gut might strike will immediately . place obama in my debt." can you add some context to that? >> i'd bee happy to, because bil thought by backing obama and giving that speech at the barac democratic national convention in august of 2012, he had placee barack obama ins his debt. that's what happens in politics. it's generally one hand washes the other. my the trouble is, clinton washed

obama's ghand, but obama reneg on the deal, and according to my sources that were in the room t with bill clinton when he got the news, he placed his face inr his hands and shook his head ane he was so upset that hillary clinton thought he was going to have a heart attack over this, what he considered to be a we h welshing on the deal. host: t >> mr. kline, there have been tn questions about yours sources, especially some of the more salacious parts of the book ande attributed to people, but no names specifically. first of all, what do you make t of the claims and why not bring more people to the forefront as people who actually gave you the sources and give their names? >> -- whose books are all anonymous sources, the game change authors, their sources e

are anonymous, too.they d when you report on current political battles, it's very po hard topl get people on the record, because they don't want to lose their access to the people in power.ing so i've developed over the e course of many years during theo books that i've written on hillary clinton, on barack obama, the last book i wrote was called "the amateur barack obama in the white house," i have a rolodex of sources who i've com to depend on who have proven tor be absolutely accurat ae again again and again, and these to people will talk to me for a but variety of reasons, not the m least of which they w like to s themselves as quite important and close to power, but none of them will go on the record and understandably so. >> edward klein, our guest to talk about his book, "blood feu

feud", and takes a look at h tensions between the clintons tr and the obamas.t to as our guest mentioned, also ou about revious books hillary clinton, the kennedys, and other topics. if you want to ask him questions about this book, here's your chance to do so. for democrats, 202-585-3800. for republicans -- and for independents, 202-585-3882.t on twitter, it's @c-spanwj. mr. klein, you talk about president obama, the promises made before the re-election, prd what was kept afterward, but yos also bring in valerie jarrett, the president's adviseadviser. what's her role in alls of this? >> i say in "blood feud," this book, excuse me, that valerie jarrett is the single most important behind the scenes adviser in the white house since harry hopkins more than 70 years ago in the franklin roosevelt

administration. hopkins was a friend of both ck franklin roosevelt and eleanor. valerie jarrett is best friendss with both michelle obama and barack obama.has a she s lives in the white house. i mean, by that, she literally t has a suite of rooms that she occupies t permanently in the y white house. she has a secret service detail, she eats with the president and first lady every night that they are in the white house.atever she goes on vacations with thems she goes to whatever meeting she wants to attend, and she carries the president's message to nce cabinet ministers and other k i people in the administration. there's been no one since harry hopkins way back in the '40s whc has this kind of power. >> and you write of her, "she w watched overas him and made himv feel safe, he was her special no charge, the chosen one.is

she focused on him, doted on him, and devoted her entire life to him, she gave him the kind of unconditional love he never received from his mother, who frequently abandoned him as a el child." >> that's right. there's been several, as you know, biographies of barack obama, and there's been a lot o. speculation about the fact that his mother was not around a lot she traveled a great deal, left him with his grandparents, his white grandparents, when she wam around, he felt a great need ton win over her love, according to many books, by showing what a great man he would become. and i think in many ways, he has similar relationship with both his wife, whom he really wants e to. please, and valerie jarrett who is a kind of substitute on mother figure.can >> first call for you is fromrd cathy. she's from montgomery, texas, on our republican line.yes,

áhñç/torñiçó cathy, good morning.ok. >> caller: yes, good morning. i'm so happy that you wrote this book, and i just have a comment. the clintons are so fake, and ad this is what they get.ve him they went overboard thinking barack obama would save them atn the end of the day like bill clinton did for him w at the dn. when he made that ridiculous speech, and this is what he got. for dealing with the devil. thank you. >> well, that's an interesting question. you know, it'sîwñb?3r interest bill clinton has been taking h some soundings in various stateg across the united states with democratic party chairmen, building a support team for e se hillary in 2016, and he has told his friends and associates+++a< obama administration have been there as well and that they are

looking for what bill clinton called a mini me, a clone of obama, somewhat who will come out of nowhere and challenge hillary for the 2016 democratic nomination. so in bill clinton's eyes, there's no greater obstacle to hillary getting the nomination than barack obama. approving china being a most favorite nation status 20 years ago, then signed off on the repeal of the glass deegal act, which caused a great recession and nasa set the stage for china and other countries getting our manufacturing jobs, so our sour

economy now is a result of bill clinton. hopefully, the democrats will get someone credible like joe biden to run, and certainly not hillary. thank you. >> well, thank you for that question.ost it is interesting that bill ri clinton may bcae the single mosw popular politician in america, if not in the entire world right now. there seems to be a collective amnesia about what the clinton presidency was like.ng the we did balance the budget, as i yoa u just said, during the clinton years, and we did do reform of welfare, but that was in conjunction with a republican congress, which in many ways forced his hand. what we seem to have forgotten, so many americans, is that during the clinton administration, you're right about this glass seegal act,

which allowed banks to do their own trading and ultimately nd resulted in the economy collapsing in 2008, and even in my estimation, a more important failure. and that is that during the thi clinton years, nothing seriously was done about the rise of al d the islamic extreme terrorism that now is shaking the world to its foundations. so, it is interesting that bill is popular wherever he goes, but no one seems to remember anything from monica to terrorism. >> mr. klein, you say he's popular, but the one person he wasn't popular with was valerie jarrett. why is that? >> that's an excellent question, because the blood feud between these two families, the obamas and the clintons, has a, as i've said before, an ideological,

personal dimension, and one of those dimensions is that the obamas say when they are with their friends and associates ani their political advisers, that they don't believe that -- i'm saying this is what they say, they rincdon't, the obamas don' believe, that the clintons on really stand for any principles. they look upon the clintons as opportunists. on the other hand, theook clinte for their part, look on the obama team as a bunch of amateurs, inexperienced people, whoti seem to fumble all the grt issues of our time because they don't know how to govern.these so there's so many reasons why these two sides don't get along. >> here's betty from illinois, democrats line, hi, betty. good morning. >> caller: good morning. you're getting to be something like fox news.ere, it's always negative stuff. and this guy here, he can't evew

say president obama, so you know where he's coming from. and, you know, the country is so divided. we're going. down, as they say, in a hand basket.people it's ridiculous. you need to have more black people on speaking for different things. every time i watch c-span every day, because i'm 75 years, retired, and i have time to ' watch this stuff, and it's ridiculous. >> so, caller, you're directinge a lot ofct things. why don't you direct a question or comment directly to our him guest. talking to tl, i'm him directly.ng out w we just got done talking about the supreme court, now he's coming on with more negative ndf stuff. it's ridiculous.rrgrandk i feel sorry forid my grandkids and my great grandkids in this country that we're living in.keo klein, anything from that you'd like to respond to?trouble >> well, i had a little bit of a trouble hearing her, the connection wasn't actually very clear, but i think what i'm

hearing is that what about all this negativity, why is there so much negativity in this country, and is my book, the blood feud n between the clintons and the obamas, just adding fire to this negativity. and i would say to your caller, to ouram caller, that i am justs patriotic as you are, ma'am. i feel that you're right, that this country is divided, and that what we need is to pick a leader in the white house and a congress that knows what they l are doing. now, the most recent quinnipiacm poll that just came out, i believe, today, says that the majority of americans think rese president obama is the worst s o president in 70 years. that's a poll. that's not my opinion. that's a poll of americans.e thn a lot of people think this is

based on racism, that because e he's african-american people don't respect him. i don't happen to share that view. i think that the opposition to barack obama by so many people i and his plummeting poll ratings have to do with what i consider to be a feckless, inexperienced, fumbling administration that doesn't seem to be able to get sayact together. >> so, mr. kline, somebody off twitter says this, if there is : feud between the obamas and the clintons, they sure hide it well. >> well, they used to hide it well. that's ll,true. i'm not so sure they are still hiding it well, because only recently bill clinton came out publicly and said that obamacare was a flawed law. that's a big statement from bill clinton and a huge blow to nt wu

president ldobama, that a forme president, democratic president, would say that this law needs to be revised. on her part, hillary has come out publicly and said that despite the white house claim that the irs scandal is an inventive scandal, that it's ald really not a scandal at all, that she thinks it is a scandal and that it should be looked into. she almost came out and said there should be a special prosecutor. these are statements by the clintons that indicate they are beginning to put space between themselves and the obama close administration as they get closer and closer to the time in that hillary is going to announce that she's running for yorident.w >> alanna is from brooklyn, new york, republican line. good morning. >> caller: good morning. hi, mr. klein. >> hi. >> caller: it seems to me that mr. president obama, even though

he's having trouble, you say, s with theca clintons, he also doesn't care for mr. bush either. so if you want to put this in some kind of realm, you know, it's, you know, two presidents, you know, that were sitting eres presidents and we have the one president in the house now and there's something wrong with two presidents. and besides that, when the clintons were in, they happenede to have it very good, because they were at a stage in life where electronics were coming me up, and people were just getting into that. and there was a lot, a lot of at money made through that. do you understand what i'm saying? >> i do, and i'd like to respond and say that barack obama basically, if you just get to the core of matters, won the

presidency in 2008 by his opposition to george w. bush and the iraq war.e then a that was his key platform and - plank, and since then for yearsn now he's in his sixth year in office, he's blamed bush again and again and again for the problems that he's inherited. the fact of the matter is, cli barack obama, in my view and in the view of the clintons, has caused many of his own problems. we see now the middle east going up in flames. syria hillary clinton urged barack obama to get involved in syria early in that war, not with the ground troops, but with the support of the opposition to the assad regime, and if obama had g listened to hillary, i think we would not be seeing the spread'e of s radical islam through syri

into iraq, that we're seeing today. and then there was, of course, the reset with russia in which the obama administration tried n to make a good relations with vladimir putin. well, we've seen how that's past worked out. i so again and again, blaming the pastwe is no excuse for not functioning well in the present, and i think that the clintons feel very strongly that as bill clinton once put it, and i use this as a title of my last book, that barack obama is an amateur. >> and that is the title of his last book, also books about hillary clinton and the kennedys, as well. edward klein is our guest from new york. the title of his current work, "blood feud: the clintons vs. the obamas." mays from alabama, good morning, go ahead. >> caller: hello, klein, can yoi hear me? listenin >> i can hear you very well.

>> caller: i hope you're going to understand what i'm going tov say. your bias is like listening to you, like everything, he's incompetent. if he was incompetent, he wouldn't be the president. you have a problem because he's there doing his job, because if he wasn't, he wouldn't have been there. i get sick of you saying he's b? incompetent. what makes you competent in your book? you have the feud, not the president. >> well, i'm going to let other people decide whetherve i'm competent or not. i've been a journalist for a very long time, i've written 12c books, mosthi of which have bee on the best seller list.ine. i used to be editor in chief of "the new york times" magazine, before that, foreign editor of "newsweek," so i have a long fel history of, in my field, achievement, and i feel that my books have again and again conc proven to beer true.rson as far as the president is concerned, i'm not the only person who is saying that this is an incompetent administration.

to be a widespread and spreading view among the political class, even liberal democrats have been critical of the administration giving you one example, when barack obama threatened that if the president of syria crossed a red line, that obama drew, and used chemical weapons, that the as a united states would take threa military t.action. that was a threat from the president of the united states. he backed down on that after these weapons were used, and in doing so, lost not only personat credibility for himself, but hot credibility for thehe stature o the united states throughout the entire world. >> cecil up next from georgia, democrats line. >> caller: yes, there's been -- thanks to c-span. there's been a lot said since

i've been on the phone, but i think this guy just want to make money for his book, and that's o okay. that's, you know, his job to try to make money on his book, but i think he's just trying to get stuffta started and everybody else, some of the republicans, still talking about the red line and that's some of the things e they bring veup.we and hillary hadn't even decidedi to even runll yet, so we don't know what obama is going to do as far as supporting hillary. >> well, the -- i hope that you have an opportunity to read my book, "blood feud: the clintons vs. the obamas," because this book documents, chapter after th chapter, the bitter what is called internecine or family

fight within the democratic party between these two great families, and it is not only i, but many of my sources and many of the sources in other publications, who have documented this growing feud, and i think as we go beyond thed 2014 midterm elections and starh getting really involved in the presidential campaign, which will happen after november, you'll see a bet widening rift between these two wings of the o party represented by obama on the left and the clintons on the center left. >> mr. klein, roger on twitter says, was selecting hillary of secretary of state a concession and an example of keeping your enemies closer? >> yes, it was. that's exactly correct.e the appointment of hillary os clinton as secretary of state was opposed by valerie jarrett

and michelle obama on the ground that it would bring the clintons into the white house and icy complicate obama's ability to get his policies through.int ofv but, in fact, in obama's point of view and the point of view oi his political -- other political in a way, forced bill clinton '' silence, to not be an active opponent of the obamas. so, for instance, bill clinton e literally signed an agreement with the obama administration that if hillary were appointed e as secretary ofs state, he wou not make any speeches in foreign countries, for which by the wayo he used to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, as we know now, or say anything in major

policy speeches that was not bg first vetted andin cleared by t white house.ter pe so by bringing hillary in as this twitter person said, he kept his enemies close and kept them quiet. >> mr. klein, "the wall street journal" has a story this morning taking a look at both hillary and bill's ability to raise cash from corporate sources, so when it comes to your book, what exactly are the clintons looking for from the e: obamas, as far as this deal made in 2012? >> i think at this point they are -- they've practicalíy given up on getting obama's active support for hillary in 2016, and they have been creating what i c a parallel democratic party organization, a clinton rd brand separate b from the democratic national committee, which is controlled by the white house. bill has been actively involved

in this. he's been putting together ing a policy books for hillary, he's e been bringing major donors and political figures down to little rock, where he has his clinton library, he's been spending all of his time putting together the campaign that hillary's going to run. in fact, he's turned over most of the day-to-day running and the policy decisions of the iso clinton foundation to his daughter, chelsea, who is now in charge while bill is spending his time on hillary's campaign. >> what about the obama campaign's database, names, donations, what's happened to that? >> that's a very good question, because part of that deal that mentioned during the golf game at andrews air force base in n i which bill thought he had a deal

with obama, part of that deal a wasry in addition to obama's bae support of hillary that he would turn over that whole database and donor base to the clintons nominate the head of the democratic national committee. all of which obama has since is reneged on. our >>in jamie is on our independen line from washington, go ahead. >> caller: my name is amy but ii am in washington. >> you're right, go ahead.it ise >> caller: i'm going back a bit. it's very hard for somebody on the west coast, apparently, to get in and you weren't very kint with your phone numbers to old r ladies. but i want to know what your t guest thinks about this current supreme court and particularly about its decision in hobby i o

lobby. because itth -- >> ma'am, i don't know if that's the topic we're engaging in this morning, mr. klein, you're youw welcome to continue but i wanted to see if callers wanted to comment on your book but go ahead. >> i'll make a verye brief comment and they the coverage of the supreme court decision and the reaction from the obama d te white house in my view id not overlooked the fact that the supreme court did not say that these smaller corporations an didn't have to give any contraceptive health care, it was just some contraceptive health care, including day-after pills which some people think is an abortion pill.re very but as far as contraceptives are concerned, they're still covered. they're very inexpensive as well and i don't think that that this

supreme court decision was that radical, although i a certainly think that the obama administration is seeing it as a big body blow to obamacare. >> joe from maryland, democrats' line, hi. >> caller: hello. good morning, can you hear me? >> yes, go ahead. >> i can. hello, joe. >> caller: i just wanted to comment on your evidently, you t know, you're a professional author and i just think that when you write, you sound pro-republican or whatever and that's your choice. but if you look at the administrati administration, you see it's always been a government and it's always been what it is -- politics as usual. but it seems as if ever since president obama was elected it was relentless pursuit for erfet imperfection, for fault.ioas and that's okay. but to portray him as being wha

he is other than a president i think that's an insult to the nation and america wake up. we're showing our hypocrisy. >> well, i'd like to comment on that, and i think it's a very co sensitive issue. among the african-american community in the united states e as iep understand it from my ac interviews, there is a deep se feeling that this president is being unfairly attacked because of his race., althou among whites, that's not as common, although a number of liberals agree with that point b of view.ecau i don't comment on that in my book because i don't think i'm qualified to do so. i comment in my bookóhn r"blood feud" about the actual policies carried out by this en bill administration, about theñr frie

conflict between bill clinton who, by the way, is a great and friend of the african-american community. and so his criticisms of obama, i think, is very hard to say that they're racist-based. because he himself often jokes that he was the first black president. other african-americans have called him the first black president because he did so much good for african-americans in this country. so this feud is very hard to say that it's racial based between the obamas and the clintons. >> carlos from chicago on our independent line. you're on with edward klein. >> caller: yes, good morning to both of you, how are you doing, mr. klein? >> good morning. >> caller: i don't -- what i am going to tell you, i have a couple of questions and then a comment and a suggestion for your next book.ou jus >> good. >> caller: what you just spoke of is african-americans. if you're talking from an african-american perspective and

you look at both presidents that you were talking about, past anu present, my question first of m. all are you republican? c-span asked me, are you a republican, democrat, or independent? >> personally i'm a registered independent.in >> caller: oh, you are ade registered independent. okay, so then you can answer me freely. book my next question would be what prompted you to write this book and as a lot of callers have heard and what prompted me to make this phone call is becausek they say that, again, you have to look at things from -- like you say, you're not qualified td i can understand that. but then african-americans that you have interviewed, what havet they shared with you about the accomplishments that our president has done? >> well, i'd like to comment one that if i may. >> go ahead, sir. no, go ahead, mr. klein.

>> okay. i've made many trips to chicago where barack obama began his political career and where the t african-american community was the first community that got behind anymore a strong way, raised money for him and launched him on his political career. and i've interviewed many, manyo members of the african-american community in chicago.sappoi almost without exception they am are a bedisappointed with barach obama because once heou got int the white house they never heard from him again. they made phone calls, they wrote letters, they sent e-mails, they said, you know, here we were with what they cale first-day people, people who were there at the beginning of his career and without whom he could not have risen to the canm great heights that he haser ande has forgotten them. but it's not only the jews

african-american community. i've also interviewed jews who e raise a lot of money for barack obama christians who are liberal and are very pro-obama and they, all say almost without exception that they love this man, they were happy to be behind him, but that he has shown no gratitude r toward them or even made an effort to bring them closer to the white house to show his ma gratitude. and thisal a feeling about obam also common among members of congress. democrats and republicans alike who say they never hear from him, he doesn't get to know . them, he is aloof and detached.y this is not just me reporting m, this, this is many journalists. both in the mainstream media, in

the liberal media and in the es conservative media. >> james from delaware, you're on with edward klein. go ahead. >> caller: i want to ask your guest a question but first i want to address what he just said about the african-american views of obama. that thought that he would get s in there and do more towards community and the reason he couldn't was because he fac fac congress that no one imagined h. would face. he faced opposition that no one even imagined he would face. so even if he appeared to even look towards the african-american community, he would be called different names. but what i wanted to ask your guest is he said earlier that there's a poll that said obama is the worst president in 70 years. does he have any idea what the last administration was? where was this guy?

asleep? and did rupert murdoch buy thisa station? did they buy it?n and on, use everything you have a parade of political hacks coming on criticizing the ert mu democrats and the administration. if rupert murdoch bought the station, why don't you tell us?t >> that's not the case but mr. klein, you go ahead with your thoughts. >> i'm w not sure i fund questi. maybe you could summarize it for me. >> i think he was rehashing what was said previous and criticisms about this president by congress and others, particularly i guess relations with congress. that's my gathering. but go ahead. >> right. well, the clintons feel as i've described in this book "blood feud" that obama has not shown the political talent to even try to work with this congress. for instance, let's remember that when bill clinton was han

president he had a republican revolution on his hands and that newt gingrich came in and essentially said that the president was irrelevant almost. came very close to saying that. and what did bill clinton do? bill clinton, rather than dig is and say well, i'm just going to do what i want to do lated irrespective of the congress, he triangulated, as they call it. he found common ground with thee remember h congress to do many very important things that we've already mentioned. balance the budget, reform welfare. send 100,000 new police officers on to the streets of american oc cities and on and on and on. not so there was a political

calculation on bill clinton's part that he could work we have been a dug-in opposition. this has not happened during the obama administration.unicatio there is virtually no ng communication and the republicans. i was talking to vernon jordan e who has been a major figure the democratic party and he said yea the republicans have made it difficult but when you're elected president you're expected to lead and this leader has been missing. >> and you wrote that vernon jordan is a relative of valerie jarrett? >> his wife is a relative. >> gotcha. ray from massachusetts, independent line. hi. >> caller: hi, how are you doing? >> good.re r

>> caller: first of all, the republicans are the ones that put us into this mess. can among has not worked with this president. t throughout both of his terms and i'd like you to come back on after the midterm election and see who's going to be running because these republicans are going down the tubes.he trust me. i midterm election and i'd like d you too come back and listen t my comment, okay? i i would like nothing better to come back to c-span and if they invite me i will be here ev midterm elections. >> mr. client, a comment from twitter, this is about . presidential advisors, which i think goes to so of the on i cans of your books. "do you believe the advisors of president obama and president clinton came from the same exclusive think tank pool?" >> no, i