hotos and all of that going in and out of work. their job is to steal information on behalf of the government. i have seen photos of eastern where an insane number of people drive lamborghinis and things like this. , the of that is the spam fake pharmaceuticals, the financial fraud, tax fraud, medicare fraud. it is staggering amounts of that are traced back to stored at a corporation or government. on c-span2.ght in september of 1964, the worn commission released its report on the assassination of president

kennedy. senatore former u.s. who served as a lawyer for the worn commission describes the evolution of the single bullet theory. this is a 20 minute portion of an oral history interview he recorded with the pennsylvania cable network. he died in 2012 at the age of 82. how was the fbi and cia to work with? >> very cooperative. question as to whether they had a conflict of interest. ruby had been interviewed by an agent. there was a question as to whether they could do an independent job. but we had no investigators of our own. i think it was not a good idea to have the fbi money investigation because they were too much involved in it.

but that decision was made and we did the best we could. the people we worked with were very able people. the secret service cooperated. assigned to the chief justice. one was in the front seat. the driver, the name escapes me .t the moment >> another person you wanted to get testimonial from was former first lady jacqueline kennedy. was only briefed for a few people. why was that? not testifyedy did before the commission because the chief justice wanted to save experience. it was a bad decision. she was the closest witness to the incident.

she went back onto the trunk of the car. she was said to have remembered nothing about that. she was pushed back into the sea by clint hill, the secret who carousing into jumpedning raced ahead, on the car, and pushed her into the back seat but she should have been questioned. the issue was raised at a commission meeting. en announced she would not be questioned by the commission. quickly -- mccloy objected. they called him mr. chairman, which was interpreted to be

insulting. justicealled the chief mr. chairman. it was mr. chief justice. ife calledarren's w him c.j. >> who was most influential in developing the single bullet theory? >> commander humes. >> tell us about that. >> he testified about the path of the bullet. him at the fest of the friday before his testimony, he told about how you look at the bullet hole in the back of the president's had and put his finger in. the bullet hit nothing solid. it passed between two large

muscles. happened.ow what there was speculation the bullet found on the stretcher was thought to be the one that went -- speculation it may have lodged in the president's neck and with the external heart massage been pushed out onto the stretcher. it was later determined the best we could tell it was on connolly's stretcher. very confusing testimony given by a fellow named jemison as i recall it. humes speculated on whole -- a hole in the president's throat

might have come in from the front and struck a vertebrate, glanced up, and caused tremendous damage to the top of the president's head. it was practically blown off. 13 centimeters across, five and a half inches. humes told me, testified, told me in that interview friday afternoon and later testified that the next day he called up malcolm parry, the surgeon who and it was aeotomy wound of exit not of entry. it was jacket. a wound of entry is regular and round. and wound of exit is different.

was destroyed during the tracheotomy so nothing more could be done. humes andtened to dr. put two and two together that neck andt entered the passed between the muscles -- that tire was preserved. it was cut off by the doctors performing the tracheotomy to get it off, so the tie happened to be preserved. wounds on the thernor's chest grazing rib, tumbling through his wrist, and lodging in his thigh. a strange path for the bulleted ttake, thelet to

truth is stranger than fiction. dr. humes testified he did not think the board could have gone through connelly's wrist. at that stage, he disputed the single bullet theory as i have just outlined it. when we had dr. gregory, the andopedic surgeon testify brought the x-rays in, he testified metallic fragments were found at various levels of the wrist. as he described them as i recollect, they were postage stamp weigth. the full bullet weighed 158 grams. 100 61.e as high as that differential could have accounted for the metallic fibers in the governor's wrist.

>> how was the theory received by the members of the commission? i know it was in the report, so the bottom line was they accepted it. chance to give chief fromce warren a warrant the sixth floor of the school whereepository building oswald's assassin's nest was thought to be. i estimate i talked to him about eight minutes laying out the whole line. when i finished, he did not say a word. he turned and walked away. a little difficult to read him. later i heard rumors there was a 4-3 vote. senatorheard rumors

russell did not agree with that and wanted to write a dissent, but all of that was in the rumor stage. that is about as much as i know about the commissioners. >> or did you learn when you visited the hospital in dallas where the president was taken as well as governor connally? >> i learned a lot. i took depositions. i took about 18 of them back-to-back. they were all set up for me. i talked to nurses. i talked to everybody there. one of the nurses testified. it is all on the record. it is all there. that when they knew the president was in town, they were speculating that it would be interesting if he was in an auto accident and had to come to the

emergency room. , fromhe president arrived the intracranial pressure, he was popeyed, whatever that means. they saw him and they did not think it was the president. he did not look like the president. they thought maybe it was a stand-in for the president. they must have a double for protection. i talked to the witness jemison who testified about the stretcher. he was a very difficult witness because i would not put words in his mouth. he was very confused about who's stretcher it was. it is all there on the record exactly how it happened. readerbatim for people to and come to their own conclusions. connally'sr clothes were washed affecting

the investigation. why was that? >> you'll have to talk to his laundress about that. people did not recognize the importance of that. we should have talked to conley a lot sooner. it was april 22 when his deposition was taken in the commission. thes had been cleaned and pressed. they were important because of which way the fibers were. we had kennedy's jacket. the fibers went it. the shirt went in. with connally, they cleaned and pressed his suit your >> you found the maker of candies shirt. >> i went back and looked at them. >> on a separate trip with your wife, you found the maker of the same material, the same shirt kennedy had worn? shirthad a label in his

that said the just -- the address i think on madison avenue. joan and i were walking in new york. i recollect it was november 9, 1964, the day my parents sale israel.el -- sailed for i said this is the place kennedy bought his shirt. i went in and they were tailor-made shirts. fromnd the bolt of cloth kennedy's shirt. it was $24.95 as i recollect. i was tempted to have a shirt made, but it was a little beyond my reach. senatoro the salesman, -- president kennedy bought his shirts here, dignity -- did not

take -- didn't he? he rose and said we never disclose our clientele. how did you find out? i gave him a snappy response and said we never disclose our sources. >> is there anything you would have done differently looking back on the investigation? >> i would have liked to have had the x-rays and photos. i made a big fuss about that. dated aprilmorandum 30 raising hell with the commission. they would not let us see them. they were afraid they would get into the public domain. i think the kennedy family made the decision on that. robert kennedy probably made the decision, and the chief justice protected them. we had a testimony from the surgeons. it did not diminish the

importance of seeing the photos and x-rays. was very unhappy about that. one reporter wrote i left the tears -- the room in tears, which is not true. the house conducted an investigation on the assassination investigation. they investigated the investigators. i was in the middle of the campaign in pennsylvania in 1978. 1977.ht have been primary thats year. i think i was subpoenaed or threatened with a subpoena. i went to washington. who was notcounsel very professional reduced this memo. aha, april 30. you did not see the clothes an

x-ray, is that true? yes. that is me. i sent that memo and i would repeat it. >> how would you rate the media coverage of the war and commission investigation -- the worn commission -- warren commission investigation? >> the media coverage was dry. they reported on the report. i thought the hearing should have been public. the commission decided not to. i think had the public scene the investigation and how it unfolded, there would have been a lot more public confidence in it. the testimony of marina oswald was public because she was represented by arlene -- earl

lane, and she asked for public testimony. the commission agreed to do that. >> was it difficult to maintain an open mind with media coverage as well as the fbi findings being publicized? >> no. the initial fbi and secret service conclusions were the first bullet hit the president through his neck. the second bullet hit the governor. the third hit the president's head. it was not hard to keep an open mind. i was looking at the evidence. keeping an open mind is never a problem. you look at the evidence and go with the facts lead you -- where the facts lead you. i had no preconceived notions. i had no interest in doing

anything but finding the truth. us the truthaid to is our client. >> was there anything in the final report you disagreed with? so. don't think so.n't believe >> that was the portion of an interview senator specter recorded with the pennsylvania cable network. he served as a lawyer for the worn commission in the year following the assassination of president kennedy. senator specter died in 2012 at the age of 82. this is the 50th anniversary of the report. you are watching american .istory tv on c-span3 >> one of washington's most distinctive memorials is also among its most cryptic. nameless, sexless, this shrouded figure was placed over the grave

of clover adams, the photographer wife of henry adams. she took her own life in december 1885. six months later while visiting the artist's studio, henry adams had an inspiration. asking a young male model to take a seated position, he wrapped the youth's torso in an american indian rug he found on the premises. own part in designing what has been called the finest monument in america and would be kept secret. the work is indescribely noble and imposing, he wrote. infinite wisdom, the past without a beginning a future , without end, a repose after limitless experience. the public began calling the statue grief. fast forward now to the first week of march 1933. henry adams had long since joined clover at rock creek.

on her first full day in washington, the wife of president-elect franklin roosevelt invited a friend to accompany her on a pilgrimage. catching a cab, the two caught a street when her husband learned of her wartime affair her social cemetery. reaching rock creek cemetery, they halted. a woman about to become first lady of the united states ed her companion to a marble bench. in the old days when we lived here, said mrs. roosevelt, i was younger and not so very wise. sometimes i'd feel very unhappy sorry for myself. when i was feeling that way if i ould manage it, i would come out here alone and sit and look at that woman and i'd come away somehow feeling better