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gathering data whether it is a law enforcement officer or whether it is a person on the civilian streets of america. this cannot be an issue that we face alone, though we lead this issue as a congressional black caucus but this is an issue that draws all of america and we ask in eshg toamerica to stand with us. >> thank you. the gentleman from the state of virginia who is also on the judiciary committee, mr. scott. . >> thank you, mr. chairman. in addition to what's been need about the need for discussion, i think it is important to note action which has been already taken. about a year-and-a-half ago, the house passed the death in custody reporting act. it provides a report of any

death in the custody of law enforcement that is jails prisons or in the process of arrest be reported to department of justice. many have talked about the attorney general, the chair of the police --chief from philadelphia, chair of the president's task force, have all talked about the need for data. the deaths in custody reporting act will provide that data. it is very important to note that the congressional black caucus hasn't only been talking about doing things, but we've actually taken that action and there is a lot more that we're going to do. >> all right. we have four more presentations. they will be brief. then we'll open it up for questions. next will be the gentle lady from california, mr. maxine waters. >> used to be on judiciary committee. now ranking on financial services. i want to thank the chair and

the congressional black caucus for coming together to recognize a number of things that have occurred around this ferguson incident. first of all of course we are deeply saddened that the justice department was not able to find is that michael brown's civil rights had been violated. however, having gone there, they learned a lot about ferguson. they learned about the traffic stops. they learned about the fines. they learned about the disproportionate fines and the amount of money that african-americans were paying that contributed to the revenues of not only ferguson, but all of these adjacent cities. i'm from st. louis missouri. i was born in st. louis and i lived in a little town right outside ferguson. there is a whole string of towns that includesthese african-americans

coming through these little jurisdictions are not only stopped and fined, then the fines go into warrants then they go to jail. and this has been going on for years. i'm pleased that our attorney general was at least able to identify this. but that's not the only thing or things that are wrong with places like ferguson. we've also discovered in this conversation that the high school there was not accredited. instead of allowing students to go outside of that jurisdiction to high schools that were accredited with good teachers et cetera, they waived the rights and allowed those students to stay in that high school that's not accredited. we also learned that the residents there can't own their homes because the banks and financial institutions will not give mortgages on $50,000 homes and less. and so we have a lot of work to do. in addition to all that you hear that my colleagues are working on in order to deal with some of

these police practices and abuses, we need to deal with the education system. blacks are not represented on any of these jurisdictions whether it is the school board or the city council or the police department. and we have to work as much as we can. some of us are working in different areas. washington university sits right there. and what are they doing to deal with the education system. st. louis university is right there. what are they contributing. we have a lot of ways to go. this conversation. i'm very pleased that we have come thus far and that we are totally committed to the proposition that we cannot only raise the level of awareness about ferguson but about all of the little cities and towns and jurisdictions that are being treated this way. thank you very much. . >> . >> thank you. next congresswoman brenda lawrence who as most of you know was is a former mayor in a major

city in michigan. >> i want to say, i'm so glad the department of justice put together this information. being a mayor and equipping my police force to provide public safety for our community, this issue is very, very important to me and it's one that i will say that history has taught us that mankind will give us an opportunity to learn and to better ourselves. i do hope that this death of this young man will not be in vain. we must require federal dollars to be tied to communities that invest in. community policing, invest in training and accountability of their police departments. every night i depend on my police force but also invest and demand that each resident of my community is treated with respect. we must as a country die manned that. because where you live and the

income that you make should not determine how you are treated by our police departments and we now have been given an opportunity to make things right and make sure this man's death was not in vain. thank you. >> thank you. the final presenter, congressman al green from harris county city of houston state of texas. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to thank mr. clay for the outstanding job to keep these issues at the forefront ever our thoughts. mr. chairman if i may say so, the justice department has only but confirmed with empirical evidence what the anecdoteal evidence has revealed to us for many years. we have known anecdotally by simply going to almost any courtroom in this courtroom and just visually seeing the people who are there. if you walk into that courtroom, you're going to see poor people and you're going to see minorities and you're going to

see them begging and pleading for are an opportunity to have more time to pay fines than minimum wages cannot afford. this problem is pervasive and the establishment working with the city council working with the judicial system has created a circumstance whereby under the guys of law enforcement and public safety people are being taxed. this is but another invidious tax that's been imposed upon poor people and minorities. it is time for us to act. thank you, mr. chairman. >> i thank all of my colleagues. questions. ess. >> so the attorney general said they would not be charging with dan walker with any crimes related to michael brown's death. i know you said you were disappointed, if you can detail your feelings on that and also

the specific detail 245that michael brown didn't have his hands up when he was fatally shot. >> all right. yes. >> let me try to respond to your -- >> we want to deal with in this a macro -- overhauling entire justice system. >> we know that there was a miscarriage of justice at the local level. on the part of the st. louis county prosecutor. the way the case was presented to the grand jury. the faults of the grand jury system. all of that came in to play in this case. and it's unfortunate. i'm going to leave it there. >> thank you. next question. yes, sir. say who you are. what media. >> i'm an intern at c-span. but i'm curious. i guess this is for

representative jackson lee. criminal justice form. what would that look like? is that reducing mandatory minimums for drug offenses or does it go even further than that? >> well you're looking at the combined members who have really led on criminal justice reform and it is a myriad of issues. we've had the opportunity to meet with a number of officials including the white house on issues concerning the importance of the broad look of criminal justice reform, mandatory minimums is certainly one of those. prison reform. issues of training. but we are mourning of course the loss of michael brown and eric garner tamir and the array of individuals. and with congressman clay's leadership we are focusing on this report so that we can expand the findings of this report to look to the ills that are in jurisdictions throughout. that covers everything. it also covers rehabilitation.

good time early release. many of us are introducing legislation. we are looking at comprehensive criminal justice reform -- not immigration reform today. but we are also looking to listen to all of the principles -- families advocates, people in law enforcement, i think the congressional black caucus the chair has said and members have said, we mean business. we mean business in getting the criminal justice system reformed. building on the likes of many of our members such as ranking member john conyers. >> thank you. >> all right. we thank you. all right.

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start off with skype. i think it is all fixed. bear with us. i will turn it back to the co-chairs to lead us through the next panel. >> good morning again. our second panel is dealing with the issues of officer safety. we're going to start out this panel with dr. alexander eastman who is a lieutenant and deputy medical director with the dallas police department. he's participating with with us via skype. so welcome dr. eastman. and let's go to you via skype. >> thank you very much. commissioner ramsey, chairwoman robinson and director davis and members of the plez'sresident's task force. there is a unique opportunity to present to you today, i'm coming to you from vacation in park city, utah. i have to thank the men and

women of the park city police department in getting the technological aspects of this sorted out. currently i served is as the police lieutenant assigned to our s.w.a.t. unit as the lead medical officer. this has me involved in a number of law enforcement operations from operational medicine to guiding chief brown on our most recent ebola response. in addition to our work with the dallas police department, i served a similar role with the university of texas police. i am a practicing trauma surgeon, board certified in surgery with added qualifications in critical care. i serve as the chief of trauma surgery at parkland and assistant professor of surgery at the university of texas southwestern medical center. in this role i perform direct patient care, teach, do research and lead the more than 1,000 employees who participate in the trauma service line at parkland memorial hospital. for the last decade this has been a very personal and professional cause -- has been

this unique interface of trauma surgery, public health and law enforcement and i intend to come to you from those three perspectives this morning. my first recommendations for the task force is that the stopping of bleeding has to be a core law enforcement skill across the united states. despite improvements in equipment, tactics and trauma care, law enforcement remains one of our country's most dangerous occupations. over the last decade there has been some increased interest in translating lessons learned from the battlefield, the medical lessons learned, into civilian law enforcement. now it is obvious that we as law enforcement officers are not at war. we're not on the battlefield. but some techniques that have been pioneered through law enforcement in iraq and afghanistan can be easily applied to law enforcement officers. in fact, some of of these techniques translate very well into what's come to be known as save our own programs. from a community policing perspective, there's no finer

example of a police department engaging the community when a law enforcement officer applies his own commitment to save the life of a civilian. in november of 2013 a downed officer kid program. these kids contained a special operations are tourniquet, a modular bandage and a packet of quick clot combat gauze. in just 14 months dallas police department officers have saved 12cluding two of our own. in a campus setting, police recently made a similar program mandatory. this is an inexpensive kit. most of the times less than $50. it is the ultimate insurance policy to save the life of one of our police officers who's been injured in the line of duty. it can also be turned outward. that leads to my second recommendation to the task force which is that the lessons learned and that described in a

document known as the hartford consensus be embraced as national policy. this was developed and designed from a group drawn together by the american college of surgeons, federal bureau of investigations. it included dhs, fema, 17th college of medical emergency physicians. it described that these hemorrhage control text neexchniques are not just for officer safety but for community safety. as an original and continuing participant in this, i was pleased to represent the major city chiefs association in its development and continuing and ongoing work in that group. in a late 2014 survey of the major city chief association members, 42 of 70 member agencies have implemented some sort of hemorrhage control

training program and equipped their officers. these 42 programs have trained and equipped nearly 200,000 american law enforcement officers. now provides its hemorrhage control coverage to more than 65 million americans in their communities. it is an awesome, awesome accomplishment over a very short period of time. certainly commissioner ramsey is the outgoing president and darryl stevens as executive director should be given great credit to pushing that forward. my third recommendation is probably my most important -- that is to develop the ability to track and study law enforcement officer injuries. as a trauma surgeon part of my mission is to further the scientific study of improving the care of the injured patient. we review a vast amount of data in order to make our job better and to make us better at doing it every day. presently there is no system in the united states to track law enforcement officer injuries. while many may point to the fbi's database the information

contained there in is too focused on law enforcement, how far the suspect was from the assail assailant, was it day, night were they wearing a bulletproof vest. the database lax thecks the detail we need. a robust database of this nature would allow for recommendations in tactics, training equipment, medical care and even positive procedures that are grounded in that interface that i mentioned between scientific evidence, best medical practice and sound policing. my last recommendation involves the institution of a nationwide peer review system to help us when things don't go exactly as we plan. when errors are made in medicine the patients often pay the ultimate price. yet when this happens doctors, nurses technicians, medical students residents sit

together giving this intensive study in a process known as peer review review. that process has been employed in several other high-risk sectors with great success. in an essay "saving our own through peer review," it appeared in the publication from the cops office american policing in 2022 we described the idea of applying peer review principles to the nation's law enforcement officers. arising from this publication, a national near-miss database and reporting system is currently being deployed by the police foundation. this should help improve officer safety and should begin to help us change the practice that continue to place us at risk by failing to review our mistakes in a sound, protected fashion. we have to begin to take a hard look and learn from those times when things don't go exactly as planned. we do need some national protection because there needs to be protection from legal discovery on a nationwide level to allow this peer review

process to continue. this is exactly what happens in medicine and, trust me if you make a mistake, there's still plenty of malpractice claims that can be brought against you but it allows for a frank and honest discussion. let me summarize with my four recommendations to the fafk taurus. first, ensure hemorrhage control training and the provision of hemorrhage control equipment is required at every u.s. law enforcement agency. next embrace the recommendations of the consensus as national policy to improve our community's safety from active shooter and mass casualty events. third, develop and implement a national comprehensive database for law enforcement officer injuries and treatment. finally, facilitate legislative protections in national policy to develop a robust peer review program for united states law enforcement. it is a pleasure around a calling to serve both as it a law enforcement officer and a caregiver of law enforcement officers. i am humbled and honored to have been given this opportunity to represent both of those groups

today. the interface between medicine, public health and law enforcement has great potential. not just as a source for many novel officer safety program but to harness those programs and transform them into true community policing resources. my most sincere thanks to the task force commissioner ramsey, chairwoman robinson and to the president putting this group together and for the opportunity to speak to you this morning. >> thank you very much. i hope you can stay with us for the question period. our next witness will be jane caster, who is the chief in tampa, florida. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. thank you, commissioner ram dy professor robinson director davis an members of the task force on 21st sent policing for allowing me to be a part of this process. i'm the chief of police for the tampa police department. historically when we talk about reducing the number of officer

deaths we begin with a focus on training officer safety methods and the equipment we provide to our officers. all of these are necessary elements of safe policing, but i believe they just scrape the surface of the conversation that is needed to make our officers truly safer o you the on the streets. from where i stand, there are three key points that as law enforcement leaders we should focus upon. real-time information for officers responding to in-progress calls. community relationship. and officer wellness. with a proliferation of cell phones, information is moving at lightning speed. the effect is that officer are arriving on scene much quicker while the offense is in progress. while this increases the chances of apprehension, it also places officers in increasingly dangerous situations. to enhance officer safety, we must put information in our officers' hands at comparative speeds. we've been able to do this at the tampa police department in

part through a software solution that we helped develop. it provides officers with real-time actual data on suspects, zone activities, hotspots, alerts and bulletins without delay. we also monitor social media for information that may assist responding officers in stay something safe as they come upon scenes. with that in mind i would make two recommendations. there should be a dedication to the research and development of solutions to mine law enforcement databases for information that will not only reduce and solve crime but help keep all of our officers safe. this cannot be a one-time endeavor but rather a continual process. in addition, we must continue to look for and publicize best practices in the use of social media. currently there is no better way to connect with the citizens that we serve. in law enforcement we are only as strong as our relationship with the community. if they trust us, they will call us when something is amiss in their neighborhood. so the question that begs to be

answered is, how do we build that trust. it begins with understanding ourselves and the citizens that we serve. to. end, every law enforcement officer should be mandated to complete the court entitled "fair and impartial policing." the premise of this training is to show that everyone has biases and it is critical for officers to recognize this and make every attempt to set them aside when serving the public. a result will be two fold. officers will develop positive relationship with citizens, and they will be safer in their day to day activities. we've spent years building relationship of trust with our community and i want to highlight very quickly just a few programs that have contributed significantly to those positive relationships. in 2013 we opened a safe haven for kids in a historically high crime neighborhood where no strategy had worked for the preceding decade. once this after-school program was launched, crime dropped significantly. the neighborhood could see the

officers cared. that's what made the difference. in addition, our squads are required to have front-porch roll calls twice a week in high-crime areas or a citizen's frond yard. these interactions allow citizens to personally connect with the officers patrolling the neighborhoods. these initiatives, coupled with daily practices of our golden rule that everyone is treated with dignity and respect creates trust which is the foundation of our positive relationship with citizens. . one of my favorite sayings that the up side of policing is that you get to see things that nobody else gets to see. downside is that you have to see things that nobody should have to see. most officer respond to these situations in the same way -- they attempt to bury the in emery and move on. as a law enforcement executive i always felt that we fail our officers by not confronting head head-on the trauma they experience throughout their careers. to address these issues, we started the first responder's retreat. a week hadden long in-house

training involves educating officers on physiological and emotional effects of trauma and emdr sessions. many of the officers have described this as a life saving experience. the underlying mission of law enforcement hasn't changed since peel's principles of law enforcement were authored in 1829. what have evolved are the tasks it law enforcement is responsible for performing. as services continue to be fact, officers have become the de facto mental health practitioners, social workers and the front line with those dealing with those with substance abuse. as a result, they absorb a higher level of frustration and anger from citizens for their abilities to solve these issues. we simply can't do it alone. these issues require societal solutions. as a whole i believe police officers do an amazing job with a multitude of issues they are called upon to handle. most of which have no clear solution. of course, this is not to say

we're always correct but we must be very careful to avoid holding all officers accountable for inappropriate actions of a few. citizens should feel free to critique and citizens should feel free to critique and criticize officers and we must be open and accepting of that criticism. however it should be based in fact. thankfully the average citizen has no idea what's involved in dealing with the criminal element. this means we are doing our job well. at the same time we creating a disconnect. it is impossible to citizen to know what an officer faces on a daily basis. as a result every agency should have a robust citizen's academy where the community can learn firsthand how officers are trained, the need for equipment and how it is used. we end our course with a ride aloong as there is nothing more enlightening than walking in a officer's shoesen if an evening.

lastly i want to thank dr. comi for the thoughtful way he opened the door on police and state relations. law enforcement must be held accountable but as we continue to discuss the role that law enforcement plays there must be meaningful and frank discussions about crime in america. we can all agree that past inequality, societal oppression and economic disadvantages contribute to crime and disorder. law enforcement did not create these situations. but we can be an important part of the solutions. we must all be willing to work together to make the necessary improvement, which will lead to safer communities and a safer working viermgt for our officers. it is my hope that the door director comi cracked is not slammed shut but opened wide so everybody can be seen and heard. >> thank you so much chief castor. our next witness is jerry demings whose the sheriff in

orange county florida. nice to have some florida representation here and such bad weather in washington. >> let me begin by saying good morning to commissioner erer ramsey, professor robinson and all members of the task force. as i provide testimony today i believe that it is necessary to establish the perspective from which i speak. this is my 354th year as an law enforcement officer working in melt politan orlando. i've experienced line of duty deaths of my officers nine times. in fact this february 11th marked the one year anniversary of one oi my deputies, jonathan scott pine who was shot and skilled by a burglary suspect

one year ago. in may of this year his name will be added to the list of more than 20000 names on the national law enforcement memorial. the first step in improving officer safety and wellness is to understand the range and scope of hazards police face in the line of duty. according to the officer down memorial page as of february 18th line of duty deaths are down 7% in 2015. with auto related deaths remaining about the same as last year. thus far in 2015 officer deaths by gunfire are also trending downward. that is good news considering the trend from last year. preliminary data indicates that 126 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty in 2014. a 24% increase from 2013, when 102 officers were killed. in 2014 50 officers died by

gunfire. this was a 56% increase over the 32 firearms-related deaths in 2013. on average over the last decade there have been approximately 59,000 assaults against law enforcement officers each year resulting in approximately 15,000 injuries. i share these numbers because the conversation must not only be on those who have died but must also focus on those who live and what can be done to prevent injury to officers. i subscribe to a professional edict that there is no substitute for training and experience and striving for optimum officer safety. the use of simulation technology should be seriously considered in modern day police training. we should immerse officers in training that realistically depicts what they are likely going to experience in real world situations. my agents at the orange county sheriff's office in partnership

with valencia college recently implement tad simulation training program. deputies and officers use simulated firearms and scenarios that require them to make split second decisions. it is recommended that agencies conduct high liability training several times each year for all officers and invite representatives from the media to experience simulation training. perhaps this will give both media and members of the public a better perspective on the complexity of the split second decision making by law enforcement officers. the number of officers who die in the line of duty has not been below 100 since 1944. and police-related accidents is a major cause. the below 100 campaign is being embraced by many departments throughout the nation. wearing seat belts, watching your speed.

focussing on what's important and remembering that complacency kills. in addition to driver training it is recommended that as agencies replace fleet of vehicles serious consideration should be given to the collision avoidance technology, such as backing sensors cameras and the lane directional indicators. since the events of the september 11th our nation has remained you should the threat of terrorism. according to the fbi sovereign citizens pose a throat law enforcement. the current release is the u.s. government has no authority over them. this movement is live and flourishing throughout our nation. in fact two weeks ago several overmy deputies encountered an armed sovereign who shot at them without provocation i might add. he was subsequently mortally wounded when the deputies returned gunfire.

research done by the university of maryland determined sovereign citizens to also be a threat to police. for these reasons it is recommended that more first response training be provided on the topic of domestic terrorism and in particular the sovereign citizen movement. in summary the recommendations are develop training that is realistic to include simulation technology technology, conduct high liability training each year several times for all officers. to build trust invite media participation in simulation training. conduct below 100 training. conduct technology and increased first response on terror. >> thank you sheriff. then our final witness for this panel is craig floyd whose chairman and ceo of the national

law enforcement memorial foundation. welcome. >> thank you. and let me say that in more than 30 years 30 years as ceo of the national law enforcement officers memorial fund, i have never witnessed more focus, attention, concern about the issue of officer safety and wellness and i want to applaud this task force, president obama, attorney general holder and so many others. i look down this row here and, good friend darrell stevens across. you all have been very concerned about this issue for a long time and i thank you for featuring the attention on it today. want to put this issue in some perspective. the panelists before me have doechb -- done some of that. we have 20,267 names inscribed on the national law enforcement officer's memorial. about 55% of those officers died by gunfire. the majority. but in recent years, the last 15

in fact, traffic related incidents have been the number one cause of officer fatalities in this country. about 29% of the names on the memorial are traffic related deaths, then finally, 16% of those officers died from other causes. 840 of them by the way from heart attacks. job related heart attacks. over the last decade, we've averaged 146 officer fatalities per year. that's a shocking number. one officer killed somewhere in america every 60 hours, but the good news is that those numbers are going down. if you go back to the 1970s, we were averaging 231 officers killed in the line of duty each and every year, that means the 146 number i cited is 37% lower than it was 40 years ago. and that's at a time when we have double the number of officers serving and putting themselves at risk. you would have expected perhaps

that number would have gone up, not down. there are a number of factors responsible for that and i have enumerated some in my written testimony. i want to just spend a moment though reemphasizing the leadership that the attorney general of the united states eric holder has focused on the issue of officer safety and wellness. i'm not sure that he is getting enough credit for his leadership. just a few years ago when deaths were spiking, 171 officers killed in 2011. he held a summit in his office with about 40 law enforcement leaders. and actually took notes himself about what we could do to reduce officer fatalities and injuries. he launched a program called valor, which provides important training for officers. how to prevent violent attacks and how to survive them when they occur. he created a national officer safety and wellness group, whi