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tv   1979 Greensboro Shooting  CSPAN  April 10, 2015 10:32pm-10:47pm EDT

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segmentseg segment official response was outrage.segment official response was outrage. they denied that greensboro had any fault in this instance. that the police had done nothing wrong. there was a lot of confusion about when the parade was to start. i think the media, except for the television coverage on the spot, the media began an automatic defense of the city. it would couldn't have happened here. we did nothing to cause it. for the court cases that resulted from this occurrence on november 3rd there were three. the first was a murder trial. the state brought charges against six klans men for murder. that was the murder of five people. there were 30 possible verdicts. six men, five people murdered. that trial even to select the
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jury took six weeks. after the jury was selected the trial lasted 14 weeks. when you read the testimony that the judge gave to the truth and reconciliation commission that's established later about 2005, when you read his report you see what a mammoth task it was to even charge and try these people. he said a thousand pieces of evidence were submitted. just hours and hours of testimony. the problem was that to charge and find these klans men guilty of murder they had to be clear evidence they were not acting in self-defense. that was a certain definition at that point in north carolina law. they could not prove because shots were fired by the demonstrators that the klans men were not acting in self-defense.
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that is what the jury had to rule on. it was a lot of examination of the footage to determine who fired shots when. the fbi studied that for over a year which is one of the things that postponed the trial. they determined that 39 shots were fired. 18 were fired by the cwp or their supporters. when that case self-defense did work. they were acquitted. they also were acquitted by an all white jury, which again, caused a lot of division within the city. in 1982, '83 there was a second trial. it was a federal trial and the charges then against the klans men were they violated the civil rights of these people. a jury found them not guilty a violation of civil rights.
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in 1985 there was a third trial. this time the plaintiffs were the survivors of the cwp. they brought trial against the city of greensboro specifically two policeman and klan and nazi members. the city was implicated in that trial. it ended with the city paying a sum to the widow of one of the killed men and that was dr. nathan. the city did pay $351,000 in damages. they paid it to end the trial and never admitted any liability. the trust and reconciliation commission was cremated in 2005. a number of people asked to serve on the commission. a number were chosen because of positions in the community. i will say that there was very
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little support or participation from the white leaders of greensboro for this commission. the city council was not in favor, the mayor was not in favor. many of them who could have added valuable information for the commission refused to participate. i think the reluctance to endorse the work of the commission goes back to the initial reaction of city leaders where they said this is not a greensboro event. this happened because a few people made it happen and it's not part of greensboro. there was a large grant that came in from outside the community to fund the commission. actually a commissioner came from the outside to manage this whole project. they began to talk to people. people who had played a role or have any kind of input. a lot of professors who have con context were interviewed by the
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commission. they did finally come out with a report and the commission report indicated that the presence of police would have made a real difference in what happened on november 3rd. i think most people agree with that statement. they don't agree on why the police were not there. i think people in greensboro will always be divided about what happened on november 3rd 1979. again, depending on how you group up where you group up, whether you're pro-union or pro-corporate, whether you're black or white. i think there will always be a division. i think people will always resent that it happened in greensboro and put stain on the nation. i do think people felt that way about the sit ins when they took place in 1960. now that event is adopted and praised by people in greensboro.
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i don't think this event will ever be praised. i think it will always be a blot. we're in an exhibit called the murphy confederate longarms collection. this collection was actually originally loaned to the museum and then bequeath to the museum upon dr. murphy's death in 2003.
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they were married and john was a particular collector of confederate longarms. he was born in washington, d.c. and attended school in virginia. he was a southerner. then he enrolled in the navy and served as a doctor for 20 years before retiring and assembled what is an outstanding collection. probably one of its kind of confederate longarms. by that i mean rifles, muskets, shotguns and car beams. talking to his maternal grandfather and some great uncles. his maternal grandfather was a confederate veteran. i think that sparked his interest in the centennial war. he started collecting artifakcts
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and rifle, weapons. the collection consisted of 200 pieces. dr. murphy originally loaned the collection to the historical museum and it was his intention to give it to the museum so on his death in 2003, it was willed to the museum and now it's part of our permanent collection. we're starting with a piece made by tarpley. it was manufactured here in greensboro and is one of the most rare and unique pieces in the murphy collection. you can see the name stamped on here. he was the gentleman who apply and received a patent for this design. it was his idea for the dine of the rifle and in combination with an existing firm that was
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ultimately resulting in the manufacturing of this piece. this is number 380. that's the serial number. it's unusual in its appearance. it's missing a wooden fore stock and almost every other rifle has a piece of wood that goes along here. this particular design omitted that. that was one of the design flaws. they got too hot to handle. they weren't user friendly. relatively few numbers of these were made, less than 200. today less than 20 are known to be in existence. dr. murphy had four in his collection, which we have here. this next piece is a rifle that was manufactured by minute hall jones and gardener. this particular rifle is more traditional as compared today
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tarpley. it has a ramrod. what we know about this piece also is the soldier who used this piece. as you can see at the bottom of this stock here there's a plaque that's on here that was added after the civil war which says soloman hayes company g. he was a farmer from south carolina who enlisted in the confederacy in 1962 and discharged in april 1964. we know who the rifle was used by and then stayed in the family and was acquired by dr. murphy.
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the lamb family is one of gun smiths from james town. his father was a gun smith not for military purposes but he made hunting rifles from guns. here is an kpamplgexample where a craft was passed onto a second generation and he was awarded a contract with the state of north carolina to provide arms for the confederacy. about 500 of these were believed to have been made. 39 different makers in the collection and each of the
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different stars will show where things that were made within the murphy collection are shown. this shows where the tarpley's were made and interestingly enough the armories were long gone. the makers are long gone. here you see some elices and you see some pieces that have been dug up and found at the site. it gives us further evidence where the place was and further incomplete pieces that were not assembled or used. they would have varied in size and scale depending on the location. others were not quite so large. they would have been quite sizable and would have had skill level for men to work with the iron and the metals to shape and craft the tools and eventually produce the weapons.
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the pieces that were found have been dug up that have been saved many of which have been found and put into museums today are further evidence of the work that was done. some of these pieces might have been discards because they were rejected or when they abandoned the site or left behind in hurry they were buriedy edied underneath and now have turned up 150 years later. i'd like to stop here. also a case devoted to the car beams. a car beam is a long arm that's shortser than a rifle and a little bit more but it's a preferred weapon for men on horse.
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the second piece made in production. there are very subtle changes but significant important ones that took place in the course of the time between the prototype and the last piece that was made that influenced how performance of the piece and how useful it was to the soldier in battle were also fortunate to have a shipping crate. this is a crate that was used to ship them. this kind of material rarely survives as well as the rifle themselves. one of the great things about this collection is contains

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