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captioning performed by vitac >> they have. but i -- it's been disappointing. >> okay. mr. tremaine i heard you testify earlier that you have been in contact with miss lerner's department. is there anybody else you've been talking to? >> no, sir. other than the aib after about six -- i want to say 12 13 hours of grilling over two days -- i'm sorry, over three days. >> they were talking to you? >> they were -- they weren't talking, they were grilling.