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hink i did. >> in reality, it shouldn't. it shouldn't have taken justice powell to meet a gay person to be able to understand the pain. it shouldn't require a politician's son or daughter to be gay in order for them to re-evaluate it but those types of divisions now are in the past. the court here has this transcendent moment for everyone that says we need to recognize that these people have equal rights that they love each other and that they have a right for that love to be recognized in a marriage license. and you know as we talked about the cases in the past there aren't that many cases where the court has led the country on a divisive political question. but when it has, those have tended to be the legacy of the
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court. >> the reason we had a transcendent moment today was because of the change in the last 20 years. unthinkable even 10 years ago or 20 years ago when we were in school together that the supreme court would announce a decision like this or the president of the united states would call a gay man on the steps of the supreme court. this is a profound change in our lifetimes. today's decision is one that will be remembered for generations. >> wolf blitzer, back to you. >> thanks very much. the president of the united states warmly, warmly very enthusiastically applauding this decision by the united states supreme court. what a day it is for the president. he's now getting ready to fly to charleston south carolina to participate in the funeral of the reverend clementa pinckney who was murdered last week. looking at live pictures coming in from the procession. this funeral just beginning to get under way. gloria borger john king you think about the emotional ride that the president and so many
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other millions of americans are going through now on this issue of same-sex marriage gay marriage now going to be legal in all 50 states and now the president's going to be preparing to eulogize the reverend pinckney who was so brutally along with eight other people massacred in a church a historically african-american church in charleston. >> i think it just sort of opens a public window into what the president of the united states deals with on a seesaw every day. i mean we had this morning we had terror attacks, right, in tunisia. you have to deal with that. you have a ruling from the supreme court that he was thrilled about. another one yesterday he was thrilled about. but a massive shooting at home just last week now having to be the pastor in chief here at a memorial service that of course he never wanted to be at wolf much more memorialize
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somebody he knew respected, and go to a community that is in grief like that. this is -- you know this is part of the role of the president to be a pastor zbloed hold on for a moment. victor black swel there outwell is there. the entire service is only now just beginning victor? >> yeah really just begin, wolf. we obtained a copy of the program. there are more than two dozen members of the clergy politicians, friends, relatives who are playing some role in this formal service here today at the arena. for what we know, capacity for a normal event is about 5,100. with the added seats on the floor an additional hundred can be there. but thousands of people on the outside were turned away who wanted to be part of this
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service to pay their respects to clementa pinckney. what we heard from congressman clyburn this morning, wolf, in his conversations with the president was that the president was going to deliver a very personal eulogy that he sees coming back to his people not in a racial context but in 2008 during the campaign a really connecting not only with the people of mother emanuel but personally with pastor pinckney. >> it's amazing when you think about what's going on the stage, john king. there's this very very powerful moment for the next several hours, this funeral that will be taking place in charleston south carolina. thousands of people have been gathering there and millions of people will be watching here in the united states indeed around the world. we'll have live coverage of, that especially president's eulogy. but it comes on the heels of this historic decision in the
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united states supreme court. >> and so the president just had a celebration in the rose garden saying that on an issue in which he has evolved in recent years, he now believes this is a great civil rights victory. he had a celebration yesterday when his health care law was upheld by the supreme court. he celebrates a great civil rights victory today, now he's going to jewel skies the pastor and the eight other victims that in the this church we were reminded of the history of this church the pictures of dr. king visiting this church in its role in a longer march towards civil rights. this is a test of the diversity of the presidency. the different challenges and ways a president has to communicate with the country. the president will make this personal. remember he came out after and said "i would still like to have more gun laos." speaker boehner will be there. a large republican delegation will be there. a month from now will this remarkable week in the obama presidency have lasting power in his influence a month from now
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will people being b back to saying he's a lame duck and we're focused on the presidential campaign or there something else going on in him that allows him not legislatively but morally to do something in the final year and a half of his presidency? i don't know. but it's a fascinating moment. we're talking about change this week, in the wake of this decision which is landmark. hundreds of years from now they will talk about. i don't know how long lasting this other change. is but you have democrats and republicans who don't talk to each other in south carolina to mourn this tragedy. you have whites and blacks in south carolina of both parties who don't often congregate together to say let's do something. you have both politically and in the corporate sphere this reaction to take down the confederate flag to get it out of the marketplace, to get it off the public grounds. where will we be in this conversation a month from now? we don't know. it's fascinating. >> a ronald reagan appointed supreme court justice who is the decisive vote in favoring equal rights for gay americans. >> equal rights and al civil
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rights moment 14th amendment, equal protection under the law. a great civil rights moment. this decision will be hailed as a civil rights decision. on the flip side of that a white supremacist goes and shoots up people in a bible study in a church and you see the struggle for civil rights continuing in charleston south carolina and elsewhere in this country. race has become such a huge issue. so you see this continuing struggle as this country evolves in every way. >> and how much of the tone of that conversation will be civil and polite on issues of which people disagree. the flag and gay marriage and how much it will become contentious. this court case has roots in ohio. the republican convention next year is in ohio. and there are a lot of republicans, the establishment in particular who want to strip from the republican platform its
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opposition to same-sex marriage. they believe today they gained the upper hand in that fight to take it out. but i'm getting conversation from social conservatives who say that battle continues in ohio. >> very quickly, s.e cupp has it hit you? i know you're a big supporter for equal rights for gay americans that two men who love each other, who women who love each other will be able to get married in all 50 states? >> yeah just watching jim, he's not a political person he is the perfect face of this. i've written recently about the gay rights movement and sort of the wrong ways to go about this right? this is the right way to go about this. putting someone throughout with a human story who will tell the story of their husband, loss just wanting the recognition. those are the ways you change hearts and minds. look i don't believe the government should be in the business of marriage. but if it is it certainly should not pick winners and
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losers when it comes to tax exemptions benefits et cetera. so on that principle, this is a huge huge victory i think for all americans and for everyone who loves the institution of marriage. i recently got married and had a kid and it's the greatest thing that's ever happened to me so i'm thrilled my friends get to experience that as well. s.e, thanks very much. we'll continue our special coverage on this what's going on in charleston the terror attacks on three continents that have occurred today. much more coming up with ashleigh banfield and "legal view" right after a quick break. ♪ if you wt a painthat's me th just ea to scru if y want a int thatactuallyepels di and gri. ifou want paint th stand's up tlife's wr and te... only ts can. regal sect from benjam
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breaking news i'm ashleigh banfield. i'm coming to you live from the west village of new york city at a place where there was genesis of a gay rights movement, the stonewall in, the site of a 1969 riot that lead to a robust gay rights movement that today has culminated in perhaps the most sweeping landmark decision in recent era with regard to civil rights. it is a new era across the country. as of this morning at 10:00 a.m. where in a 5-4 decision the justices handed down clearance to everyone the right to marry right across the states from sea to shining sea. no state can ban gay marriage after the decision -- [ cheers and applause ] today. you can hear a lot of the reaction. the crowds have begun to swell in this location. not surprisingly there is something else this weekend. this happens to coincide with a very robust gay pride celebration weekend.
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[ cheers and applause ] the gay pride parade scheduled for sunday in new york city promising to be more exuberant, more attended and more robust than any that have come before it. i want to get you to the meat and potatoes of this decision. let's go right to the supreme court of the united states steps in washington, d.c. where my colleague justice correspondent pam brown is standing by. pam? >> certainly an historic day at the supreme court. the justicing ruled on one of the greatest civil rights issues of our time in a 5-4 majority led by justice kennedy, the holding today that gays and lesbians have a nationwide constitutional right to marry. the justices striking down the bans in the 13 states against same-sex marriage. this is written by justice kennedy. "the right to marry is a
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fundamental right inherit in the liberty of the person and under the due process and equal protection clauses of the 149 amendment. couples of the same sex may not be deprived of that right or liberty. justice kennedy went on to talk about dignity and he says here "they asked" -- talking about same-sex couples -- for equal dignity in the eyes of the law, the constitution grants them that right. ashleigh i spoke the lead plaintiff in this case. it was a historic moment when i talked to him and president obama called him congratulating him. let's listen to that conversation. >> hello? >> is this jim? >> yes, it is mr. president. >> jim, when i saw you, we were hoping for good news and we did and i just wanted to say
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congratulations. >> thank you, so much sir. >> you know your leadership on this has changed the country. >> i really appreciate that mr. president. it's really been an honor for me to be involved in this fight and to have been able to fight for my marriage and live up to my commitments to my husband i appreciate everything you've done and helping with this fight. >> i'm really proud of you. just know that not only have you been a great example for people but you're also going to bring about a lasting change in this country and it's pretty rare when that happens.
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i couldn't be prouder of you and your husband. god bless you. >> thank you, sir, that means an incredible amount to me. thank you. >> all right, take care. >> thanks for the call mr. president. president. >> there we heard it president obama telling jim oeberg fell that his leadership has changed the country. he married his husband john arthur in maryland because they couldn't get married in ohio where there was a ban. his husband died shortly after, he had alzheimer's disease and obergefell wanted to be put on the death certificate and the fight ensued. he was part of the reason why we are here today and why this is such a historic moment because the justice ss so again ruling
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gays and lesbians have the right to marry. i'm joined by mary bow gnat toe who argued this you focused on how this is not only against states discriminating against gays and lesbians but this is a fundamental right for them to marry. >> in this nation there are certain things that are so important to our liberties and who we are that the court protects them. so when the states have periodically said you can't marry because of your race or you can't marry because you're not a good parent or whatever it might be the courts have struck that down and said we all enjoy this equal fundamental right to marry. today the court said that about gay people. that there's a fundamental right and that same-sex couples can enjoy it on the same terms as everyone else. >> how significant, momentous, is this decision today, mary? >> this is momentous for a number of reasons. number one, it's marriage which is how we organize family life in this nation and it's so important to who people are and protections for their children and for one another.
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it's the person you love most in the world and the way that we express that is through marriage. so it's so personally important and profound. but then as another matter it's a time when this court stood by the principles of saying we're not going to tolerate laws that disadvantage people simply because of who they are. and in this case it was gay people and same-sex couples. >> and their children too. and that was something that really seemed to factor into justice kennedy's decision here. i'm going to read a part of the opinion. he says "the marriage laws at issue here thus harm and humiliate the children of same-sex couples." that was also something we heard from him during the oral arguments. clearly he was concerned about the children of these same-sex couples and their dignity. >> absolutely. the michigan petitioners who i represent have five kids who were placed with them by the state, very vulnerable children who have loved them and loved them. as those children get older they ask, why aren't you able to marry?" and that sense of you're different and deficient and not worthy of marriage is damaging
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for the whole family including for the children. >> you have been part of this fight from the very beginning. i have to ask you, mary this morning when we found out it was obergefell and that justice kin di was reading the opinion. what was your emotion like at that stage? >> well excited. excited and hopeful. i wasn't counting on anything until i heard the words that marriage extends across the country. >> the fundamental right, a very broad ruling from justice kennedy. mary bonauto, thank you for talking to us. ashleigh, back to you. >> i'm on a delay here pam, i'm apologize for that. i wanted to let you know something we've learned. the mayor of new york city mayor bill de blasio where gay marriage is legal, new york state has recognized gay marriage but perhaps symbolically the mayor of this city is going to perform two gay marriages at about 2:00 p.m. eastern time today so there is news dropping fast and furiously but as the litigation has
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yielded hundreds of thousands of pages of evidence testimony, and arguments, there's been a lot of emotion that's built as well that perhaps can't be measured so perfectly. but you can hear it. you can hear it around where i am. you can hear in the the voices who worked for so long towards this movement. after george takei, you know him best as the character sulu from "star trek." he joins me live by the telephone. i'm not sure if i can hear you that well. i want to ask your your reaction hearing about this sweeping decision from the supreme court. >> well today is a great landmark day for america because now i can truly pledge allegiance to the united states of america, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. so it's a very very joyous day for all americans but certainly for lgbt americans.
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>> so i think there's still so much left to be said regarding the actual process because while the supreme court has had its say, there's still a lot of messy work to be done and at least 20 of the states that still recognize those bans those still need to be challenged so is the work of gay rights activists effectively over or do you still see this as a challenge to the finish line. >> indeed we see it as a challenge. it's going to be new challenge but we are very mindful of that challenge that still remains. they are now, some of these states are going to try to use the shroud of religious freedom. i believe in religious freedom and they have people who argue that are entitled to their freedom. but they don't have the freedom to impose their religious values on to others. and there needs to be a -- and
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what justice kennedy said talked about respect for each other and and some of the republican candidates too, are saying we need to respect each other. and for me, the kind of homophobia that they expreszs so shrilly is not understandable to me. we are literally members of the family not the other. we are brothers and sisters and in some cases fathers and mothers of gay people and why they have that phobia against people who that are blood kin is absolutely unfathomable. love for your siblings love for -- a parents' love for the child and the child's love for the parent is the most natural thing in the world. and homophobic people are ones that i -- to me are absolutely
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incomprehensible. i've heard some people expressing their comments on the supreme court ruling and they're entitled to that. but they are not entitled to impose their will on everybody. >> george, with it's gdf you to take the timeo give us you mments. i'm sure for you this means so much given the amount of vism post "star trek" and your career you have dedicated to this cae. ippreciate your voice in this k you. ifou're just joining us i'm aseigh banfield coming you live from the wes village in new york city. the's a gat significance to e landmark where standing. e stonewallnn was the site of the riots backn 1969 where at a time when being onl g was not legal, the police raided this hol. they red the bar, a bar an finally the pns fought back. th rtednd the rts went f days and this became sor
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those of us who fought for this for decades. my partner randy and i got married a year ago. he's now my husband but we've been together for 23 years, we've raise lead the children together. today means our family is equal in the eyes of our own country's laws. that makes me very proud of my country and means i get to go home and look my kids in the eyes and i don't feel to feel like they'll be treated as less than anybody else in this country. that's a very emotional day for us. us. >> congressman, i'm sorry, i've lost a connection to you, i'm not sure if the viewers can still hear you but if it's just me. you mentioned your husband randy who just so happens to be joining us live as well. while you here in in washington, d.c. randy is here in new york. i'd like to get your reaction as well randy. i hope i can hear you. >> yes, i can hear you and i
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could hear sean. thank you for having us on. i want to say that you know this is not a great day for gay people this is a great day for americans. is we are not equal until we're all equal and today is that day. i it this's an amazing moment. as somebody who got married a year ago, almost exactly a year ago it's a wonderful feeling to know we will be recognized in the entire country and for our children it's incredibly validating it's an emotional moment. moment. >> i'm glad you had time to talk to us today. i have to admit i'm losing my signal. i'm in the west village live at the stonewall inn, it's famous especially among those who have fought for gay rights in america and new york city on the weekend of day pride. with that in mind i want to
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make no mistake across america, people know this location people have started to gather here. there are, i'd say, close to at least 100 plus it might be even 200 within my view. a police presence here as well. this will be an intense area of celebration as this is gay pride weekend here and gay pride month. but this weekend is the gay pride parade. it's an historic parade in new york city it will be even more so this sunday when it takes place. i want to get you right to jeffrey toobin our senior legal analyst at cnn for some of the more technical questions. when it comes to what the supreme court has just done and how the people of the united states will see it or not see it. jeffrey? i want to ask you in particular if you could just sort of lay out the case for those people who may live in those 20 states that are still experiencing bans on gay marriage, that there's lith negotiation ahead in order for that to end. >> there is ashleigh but i wouldn't overstate the complexity of the situation now.
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in a matter of weeks in all 50 states there are going to be same-sex marriages. states are going to be required to allow these ceremonies to take place. now, there may be some technical implementation controversies. in alabama where the chief justice has been resisting the orders of federal courts there has been more complexity than in most states but i've already seen several states including ohio which was the focus of this case have acknowledged they're going allow same-sex marriages. so in a complicated legal world today's decision is not really all that complicated in its implications which is that states have to allow gay people to get married. >> and it's not necessarily immediate for all but eventual for all. then there's this from the texas
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attorney general, jeffrey toobin. that is that the plan in that state at the very least is to work towards some kind of implementation of a religious freedom restoration act which he believes will give some sort of relief to those who for their religious morals or whatever those purposes may be might be able to on stain from performing those kinds of ceremonies. i'm not talking about civilians, i'm talking about those who officiate legal proceedings, government proceedings. can you walk me through how some states may do that and how they may thwart some efforts at gay marriage? >> right. i think it's important to remind folks that the supreme court decision has nothing to do with whether members of the clergy have to perform weddings -- priests, ministers, rabbis s ss srabbis imams. they don't to perform same-sex marriages if they don't want. so today's decision has only today-to-do with civil
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marriages. civil ceremonies. and what the texas attorney general is saying is that we want an exemption for locale officials who have a moral objection to performing these ceremonies. i don't think the courts, the federal courts are going to allow that. it's one thing to allow private parties, florists cake baker, to say they don't want to participate in a wedding and they have a right not do that. we can argue about whether that's a good idea or not but it's clearly constitutional. when you're talking about the government, the government refusing to allow gay people to get married when the supreme court has said that they need to be allowed to do that i think texas is going to be on very weak ground there. >> jeff toobin thank you for your insight, i appreciate it.
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knowing it's been a busy two days for you, this is the second monumental decision handed down by the supreme court in two days. yesterday obamacare in favor of the president's health care act and then today gay marriage also signature legislation, this government announced long ago it was no longer going to fight this issue and ultimately the supreme court has weighed in. i am standing in a very historic area the stonewall inn in new york city and i'll bet you back in '69 when those riots began between police and gay patrons who'd had enough of the raids, who'd had inform of the lawenough of the laws i bet they never thought ohio kentucky tennessee and michigan woinlded up what changed the law of the land at the supreme court for gay rights sea to shining sea. we're back right after this. you're small buness pert froat&t? ye, give ma probleand i'vegot thsolution well, weave 30 yrs of customerecords. our cloucan keephem safend acssible awhere. my dvers don have ti to fi out for. tablets.eep themll digit.
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i have brian todd who we'll go to outside the supreme court with reaction. and i know a lot of people have been sell brit bug, listen there are a lot of people who vehemently disagree. >> that's true, brook. first to the celebrations. this area has been the scene of ecstatic celebrations in the two and a half hours since this ruling came down. this was packed with people. banners all over the place, balloons all over the place, most of those are gone now. still people basking in this moment. for a while, they went up to this elevated plaza on the supreme court which is really unheard of. security people let them up there and it took on the tone of a super bowl victory party as the plaintiffs and their attorneys celebrated but there are voices against it. your voices are vastly outnumbered. but this is what justice kennedy said in his majority opinion about same-sex couples. "their hope is not cob on the demmed to live in loneliness excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. they ask for equal dignity in
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the eyes of the law." that's justice kennedy. what's your issue with that argument? >> i think that what justice kennedy's saying is their voices matter. their voices do matter. james obergefell's voice matters. but they're not the only voices that matter. before the court today was over 50 million americans who exercised their constitutionally protected vote and went to the ballot box and voted to affirm marriage as a man/woman union. so what today's decision did was strip that freedom to do so. not just from them but from the entire democratic process that we hold so near and dear as americans. >> this is considered a resounding victory for those in favor of farj. what are your group and other conservative groups going to do now moving forward to fight this. >> we're going to do what we've always done which is to advocate for the rights to peacefully live and act according to their faith. we're headed into uncharted territories with respect towards religious freedom and it remains to be seen, will people in this country still remain protected under the first amendment to
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live according to their faith with respect to marriage? >> thank you very much for talking and good luck on your side of this. thank you very much. well brook, again, very celebratory mood here. you have flags going, being waved over here. there was singing going on to my left. people just enjoying this moment. two huge decisions yesterday and today on the health care law, on same-sex marriage the obama administration getting two huge victories here and it's been a big week at the end of the supreme court term. it's not over yet, maybe decisions coming down next week as well. >> huge week for the president, not just obamacare and also today's same-sex marriage but you have to throw trade in there as well. brian todd in the middle of it on the steps of the united states supreme court. brian, thank you so much. thank you, keri for your voice. as far as politics go let me share this with you. several of the 2016 presidential candidates quick to weigh in with their thoughts on today's supreme court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide.
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let me run through these for you. first up you have republican candidate and louisiana governor bobby jindal argues "marriage between a man and a woman was established by god and noth earthly court can alter that. this ruling must not be used as pretext by washington to erode our right to religious liberty." next up neurosurgeon dr. ben carson with this. "while i strongly disagree with the supreme court's decision their ruling is now the law of the land. i call on congress to make sure deeply held religious views are respected and protected. the government must never force christians to violate their religious believes." former arkansas governor mike huckabee vowed to oppose the ruling saying this "only the supreme being can redefine marriage. i will not acquiesce to an imperial court any more than our founders acquiesced to an imperial british monarch and we must resist and reject judicial
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tyranny, not retreat." vermont senator bernie sanders, a democrat took opposition to those voices. "today the supreme court fulfilled the words engraved upon its building equal justice under law. for far too long our justice system has marginalize it had gay community and i am very glad the court has finally caught up to the american people. to florida: former florida governor jeb bush republican who recently said he is running. "i believe the supreme court should have allowed the states to make the decision. i also believe we should love our neighbor and respect others including those making lifetime commitments. in a country as diverse as our, good people who have opposing views should be able to live side by side." and former secretary of state hillary clinton with this "proud to celebrate an historic victory for marriage equality and the courage and determination of lgbt americans who made it possible. republican real estate mogul
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donald trump, a gay marriage supporter says "once again the bush-pinted supreme court, justice john roberts has let us down. jeb pushed him hard. remember." former pennsylvania senator rick santorum said "today five unlichted judges redefined the foundational unit of society. now it's the people's turn to speak. #marriage" with all of that said these two voices friends of mine on different spectrums politically but i feel they'll agree on this today. let me bring in political commentator sally kohn and republican consultant margaret hoover. ladies great to talk to you. >> thanks for having us. >> great day. >> i see the smiles. i had a feeling -- i have a feeling i know how you feel knowing you both as i do but sally, to you first. as a gay woman with a six-year-old little girl to you first, i understand -- your mother called you up this morning. how emotional was this for you. >> well listen -- laugh lav
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first of all, look america, this is a big deal. if i could curse right now i would say it's a really big blanking deal. this is a big deal when our courts our legislature, when any part of the american justice and legal system recognizes the fundamental equality of everyone under our flag under our nation and under god. period they are upholding the values on this which this country was founded. it is a great day. full stop end of sentence. my mother is more excited, mind you, than i am. margaret is more excited, mind you, than i am because i continue to not get married. my mother was the first call that i received, of course. we all see that coming. >> telling you to get married? >> time to get married, sally. tie the knot. >> but you know this is the great news about this right? this makes this an option for
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everyone. an option for couples who want to get married, an option for those who don't and, by the way, an option for those who don't want to go to gay weddings. if i do ever get gay married it's not going to ooze all over everyone who is opposed to it so don't worry, you're all protected and safe. >> it's a choice. >> the sun will rise tomorrow. >> it's a choice bottom line. margaret hoover to you. i know how you feel and how much you've worked as far as rights and advocacy in this sector and as a republican. a lot of young republicans, you look at the public opinion polls and they are on the side of the supreme court today and that's how you feel. >> well we just conducted an american unity fund and project right side an organization founded by ken melman the former republican national chairman who supports gay rights and freedom to marry. the polling we just conducted says that 61% of young republicans are in favor of the full freedom to marry. but even though primary voters
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in iowa and south carolina and nevada aren't majority in favor of freedom to marry, 53% of them agree with the statement that if the supreme court two rule in favor of the freedom to marry it would be time for us as a society to accept that ruling and move on without pananimosity. >> i read through a lot of those from your party people who would like to become president come 2016 and they say they want to fight it. how do they use that on a platform? >> brook, very few of them said they wanted to fight it. what they're talking now is pivoting forward about how do you justly balance religious freedom and conscience with the fundamental freedom to marry? that's an important question that republicans are going to grapple with sally and i disagree on this but it's important. you can look at states like u.s. wrut the -- utah where the church of latter-day saints came out in protection of religious freedom. there are models for how to do this and we are going to forge
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ahead in more states and the federal level. >> it's better than not doing it. but let's be super clear here. there is a massive difference between discrimination based on sexuality and discrimination based on race and gender but we should hear every one of those statements and imagine what would they be saying if they were saying the same thing when the supreme court voted on "loving v. virginia" or that women would no longer be property in marriage. and we said no no we want an exception to that. or we'd like a constitutional amendment to that and think about what that means. that's shameful. >> i'm wrapping right now. precious few of them are calling to overturn the court's decision very few. they're talking about moving forward in a post scotus decision. >> but letting people opt out. >> law of the land, this falls under the brown. have board category. this is one of those days on a calendar all of our children will be learning about in the future. sally kohn and markgaret hoover thank you very much. i want to take you back to greenwich village in new york
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ashleigh banfield in the thick of it where history started in 1969 today gay pride weekend in new york. >> is it ever. and if you think you have passionate voices on the set, there are very passionate voices on the street. gay, straight children parents, a lot of people are here. the crowd swelling. the stonewall inn, a place or historic significance. the bar tender from the stonewall inn was here the night those riots broke out he'll join me next to tell you how far we have come.
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