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renovated in about 1910. as we go up the original staircase, starting about the second floor landing, it is all original. the wood steps and bannister that clara used every day when she came to and from her boardinghouse room. the first floor of the building was a store until 1993. there was a shoe store in there. then the second floor was either professional space, offices, or places for the people who on the first floor would live. while, they never use the thread for. -- the third floor. they blocked off the third floor so nobody could get up there. it was pretty much the way when the general services administration discovered what this building was when they were getting ready to demolish the building.
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general services administration wanted to sell many of the buildings on this block that they had owned. because this was old and dilapidated, they decided they wanted to demolish it so i developer could come in and build something new. the thingsiscovered in the attic, third floor, they decided that the space was so historically important that they wanted to save the space instead of destroy it and build something new. staircasee original that clara used that has never been renovated or changed much at all. just a few repairs done to it. so when you walk up the staircase, you put your hand on the bannister, you are walking in clara barton's footsteps. she did this for about eight ,ears during the civil war era which he operated a missing soldiers office. eventually, she and up leaving
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because her house became -- she ended up leaving because her house became so poor and exhausted from the work she had done that she couldn't climb the stairs anymore. so she ended up moving out late in december of 1868. that is pretty much went to close down her operations here in washington -- when she closed it down her operations here in washington. this is the original stairwell, and she would've locked to this everyday. one of the really cool things we found in here is this blue wallpaper down here at the bottom. it was covered up by a floorboard. that is the original wallpaper. and the restoration project, we are hoping to replace all of the damaged paper with that pattern wallpaper that we expect to have replicated with the same technique that would've been made with in the 1850's. so, another really interesting
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thing, one of my favorite, is this holder back here. is -- if you take this away -- this shelf has two holes in it, and it is the earliest form of a fire extinguisher for boarding houses. what they did was they had these two holes in a shelf. they would have leather buckets that sat down in here that were full of sand because every room had some kind of fire driven stove, whether it was call or would -- coal or wood. run out into could the hallway, grab the bucket, and throat on the fire. we eventually get to a modern fire extinguisher that is pray. it didn't really take them too long to get there. but these are very difficult to find.
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now we are in the hallway. one of the neat things that we have that we had replicated is a role of the missing men -- roll of the missing men. clara had five of these produced during the war. we only know of a handful in existence today. one of the goals of my museum is to find copies of each roll, one through five. so we can show people exactly what kind of work she was doing. was sent out to newspapers all over the united states. and placed in the newspapers along with this little note right up. the note just explains to the readers that what they need to do is if they have any information about any of the men on this list, they should send the information to clara barton. this is the station would have
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lived in. one of the nice things about this boardinghouse was that it in the hallways by the doors, and in each of the boarding rooms. so you can see when we go into the next room, the gas pipes are still hanging down hard that held the original gas lights. and we have some fragments of some of those gas lights we are going to try to replicate those as the museum moves forward. so, we are walking right now into the space that was originally, well, eventually clara's missing soldiers office. she started out in one room. i have read an account from one of her family members who visited her here who said that she had one room, she divided that room and half because she started -- in half because she started to collect supplies for soldiers and she needed so much
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space that she put this wallop you see in the background. and that was her boarding room. half of it was used to store supplies, the other half was her living space, which was really quite small for the time. the last time we know anyone and habited this space on the third floor was in 1911. that is when the original edwards shaw moved out of the building. he had gotten to be rather elderly and he left this building and moved into some smaller space. i'm not sure where yet. he is one of the very intriguing personalities that we are researching right now to find out exactly what his role was, his relationship with clara barton. he moved out in 1911, and as far as we know, no one ever occupy the space after that. >> [indistinct chatter] richard: my name is richard
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line. -- lyon. in 1996 -- [indiscernible] up, make sureem nobody was living in them. it was the day before thanksgiving, in 1996. me and a coworker came here. we started in the basement. the first floor, then the second floor. by that time, it was about 10:30. he went back to the shop and i was going to stay because i didn't want to come back here on a monday. so, strangely as it happened, i made my way up the steps. and i got up there, there was nothing in her, no lights, no nothing. only a little bit of light coming through the windows. and i walked in here and i heard some noise in the back to i
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said, oh, somebody is back there. so i go back there, shine my flashlight around. nothing there. so i'm walking around in these rooms. and i hear the noise over here again. so, there is nothing here. so i did this four times. about the fourth time i was over there, i took this latter leaning up against the wall. i came over here to look. nothing was here. i haven't to witness -- witnessed an accident at the intersection, somebody ran a red light. and i'm standing there watching, seeing what happens. from out of nowhere, don't know what it was, it felt like somebody tapped me on the shoulder. i thought it was my coworker. i turned around, wasn't nobody there. so when i turned back around to look out the window, i turned around like this --
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and out of the corner of my eye, i've seen this envelope -- i saw this envelope hanging between the ceiling and the wall about two inches down, about right there. so, well, i can't reach it, so i go back and i bring this latter -- ladder out here. i tried to pull it down. there's a whole right here. these boards here were laid out like a floor up there. i pulled myself up to this little hole, and on my hands and knees, i put my hand on a piece of metal. i picked it up and moved it out of the way. it when i turned it over, said missing soldiers office. third story. room nine. clara barton. thrill of thehe
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day. still is. i shined my lights back in their and there were utensils, , newspaperswspapers from 1859 of to 1868, the whole account of the civil war. [indiscernible] -- hundreds of yards of it rolled up. sometimes stuff falls on the ceiling or comes up out of the floor and a picket up and i threw it in there -- take it up. and i throw it in there. i didn't know what to do, so i packed up some of the stuff and hit it. and i will came back -- come back on monday. i came back on monday and i ran into one of the project managers. i asked them what they were going to do, and he said, were
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going to turn it down. i said, well, why? he said, well, we don't need it. i said, would you going to do with it? he said, we are going to keep that building. i said, -- [indiscernible] , i found someing stuff in there that relates to a very important time in our history, to a very important person. and he turned and says, -- [indiscernible] i thought he was going to pass out. [indiscernible] myself to do upon what i did. i went to the library of congress for about nine months every evening and did research. what threw me off was the address. everything i found here was
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addressed 488 7th street. then i relax, well, i need some help here. so i went to somebody who knew about washington and ask them. and they said, you had to go to cooperate and get some records and look at that. so i did. and it had clara barton lived here. in 1870, they changed the address 24 37. -- to 437. and then our sure. -- then i was sure. i called people all over the country. , and answeringox an answering machine, and was calling people all of the country tried to get them to buy this building. trying to get them to buy the
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building. we had a contractor, contacted him -- [laughter] know, i have been to, you know, read an article from the battlefield journal in september, and they were dedicating a monument to clara barton. and i called the battlefield and a talk to a man about it and told him what it was, what i had found. and he was very interested in it and he said, i will have to talk to my wife. for a week, we exchanged messages. wife calledning, my me at work and says, there is a man from the park service named gary scott. i said, what did you tell him
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darker she said, i told him i would have you to call him. it was about the artifacts and everything. i told him. at first, he didn't believe me. i said i will go make xerox copies and then i will send them to you. he gave me the address. at that time, he was the head of story and here in washington for the parks -- he made an appointment to come in here. gary saved the building from getting torn down. if it went for him, i don't think -- we would be standing here today. susan: one of my favorite
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artifacts in the building, and i think one of the best, is this door right here. this is stored overnight. it is associated with the missing soldiers office. clara talked about being in room number nine credit in her diaries that are located in the libraries of congress and a few other places. one of the really extraordinary things about the door is that in her diaries, she talks about having this slot cut in. she paid $.50. she needed this mailslot because she was receiving hundreds and hundreds of letters a day. i'm sure she was not the postal service's favorite person at that time because of that amount. during the civil war, the us army was so overwhelmed because this was the first time they truly had to conduct a large-scale war, which they were completely unprepared for in every kind of way. soldiers were left on the
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battlefield in unmarked graves. many men were missing. the army were not able to put in the resources to locate where they had been. 1864, wasarton, by pretty famous internationally and she was known as the angel of the battlefield and the friend of the american soldiers. and so family started to write to her to ask if she knew anything about the whereabouts of their loved ones. help,ey were pleading for which, of course, clara could not ignore. she was kind of in a low at that time. she was very willing to pick up a new job to do. a new purpose for her. so she started making inquiries about these. towards the end of the war, as the u.s. army was liberating some of the prison camps, they
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were shipping all of the outside of to a camp annapolis, maryland. and so she proposed -- senator henry wilson -- that should go out to the camp and start interviewing soldiers and looking through records to see if she couldn't help these families out. people were really very traumatized by the idea that their loved one was just laying in a field somewhere or in an unmarked grave. so they really needed closure. and she recognized the need for this hell. -- for this help. she approached henry wilson, and he talked to president lincoln. they came back very unhappy about the idea that a woman was going to come to camp and look through the records and get in their way and ask about -- asked all types of questions -- and
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ask all types of questions. of course, president lincoln knew better than that. so he put an ad in the newspapers that said if you have any information about a missing soldiers or are in need of information about someone that you are missing, please contact ms. clara barton on seventh street in washington dc. so she had the support from the big man up there at the very top , and there wasn't really much the army could do about keeping her away. so she did go to annapolis could eventually, -- annapolis. eventually, all of these soldiers were rehabilitated and sent home. so naturally, she just moved her office right here to d.c. to the living space she had. it was just a natural thing. she had up to 12 clerks at one
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point working for her. she actually left town quite a bit of the time to go on a speaking to her -- speaking tour to raise funds. she also lobbied congress to make an official agency and give her a budget. she never was able to do that. by 1868, when congress voted to reimburse her for the funding she had put out of her own personal money to get this thing done. she did receive over 63,000 pieces. she tried to answer each and every one. a lot of times, she set up a for her-- form letters clerks two years and she gave them permission to sign her name. so every soldier that she received an inquiry on went into a book, eventually went on a roll that was published on paper
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, five roles altogether, and she lls altogether, and she answered each family especially code. unfortunately, a lot of those and of being, we are sorry, we couldn't find any information. but some of them were very interesting. she did get a letter that she felt personally from a woman whose son was not his or and he was missing. -- was an officer and he was missing. the mother sent a beautiful photograph of the sun in his uniform that was very compelling, -- of her son and his uniform that was very compelling, so clara worked to that case herself. information, puts the man's name on one of the rolls that were published, and received a letter back from the gentleman who self -- himself
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who said he didn't understand why clara needed to publish his name and all his papers and he could take care of himself and he let his family know his whereabouts when he was ready to do that. so she wrote him a very -- letter stating that she was not very concerned and she felt very bad that his family was that hed about him, and had caused them a lot of grief. so they would at least know what happened to him. this is the original sign that was found identifying the building. it would have been on the outside of the door. of course, it says missing soldiers, office third story, barton.ms. clara
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some of the really, really interesting finds that we got in the attic were -- [indiscernible] we found many, many socks. bottoms tops and sock that were separated, as well as lots of rags and pieces of cloth. what i love about these is that the soldiers' footprints are still in the socks. and you can see this one him -- this one, it looks like quite a bit of blood on that stock. claire would have taken these from the hospital and collected them because socks were at a premium and they would've wanted to reuse as material as possible. back in the 19th century, the way you did that was you could separate the top of the sock from the bottom, as you can see the bottom is where most of the ware takes place -- wear takes place. you could reuse the top and
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throw away the bottom part. so she would have gathered up as much of those as possible so that she could join used sock tops -- or old sock tops to new stock bottoms. very conservative way to look at things. and i suspect what happened was when the war was over and she didn't need to be supplying them anymore, she had these left and just never did anything with them. and i think that is one of the best finds we can have because i personally have never seen the dirty foot printed mud and blood and torn up socks from the civil war before. i think that is really a great find. one of the very unique finds from the attic, and i think is most significant, is this piece of canvas right here. significant because it has, if you look very closely, u.s.
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senator a commission stamp on it, which means that it was used by the u.s. senate trade commission. the u.s. sanitary commission was another organization that worked side-by-side with clara, who also did a lot of supply to the u.s. army. they also did inspections and were really soldier advocates for the common soldier. it is also a rubberized shelter. there are plenty of rubberized materials the civil war, but rubberized cloth, and especially shelter hats, are very, very hard to come by. this is the only known rubberized shelter hats in existence that we know of at this time. rope still here the on the ends of it. it was first presented as a
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rubberized oilcloth or just an oilcloth. but when i looked at it for the first time and i saw the buttonholes along the one side realizedpe, then i that it was actually a shelter h alf. very, very few of these were produced during the war. so, it also shows you a little bit about clara barton's relationship with the sanitary commission because they give this to her at some point during the war. of course, being such a versatile object, she held onto that so she could use it over and over again. i'm not really surprised that it was in the collection. it is quite a find. administration, with the sale of the building, was able to put aside some money to do some of the work did and what they have done -- work.
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and what they have done is they have spent money on reconstruction or renovation and conservation plans with the historic architectural firm. they have had wallpaper studies done, and sock studies done. some of these artifacts have been studied by professionals a little bit just to get some clarification on those. and, of course, they have been out there trying to promote more funding, which is where my museum comes in. we have an official partnership with them. and we are doing fundraising because they have a limited amount of funds to do the restoration conservation work, and we hope to be able to fill in for whatever they can do, plus build the exhibits and cases for the artifacts and you artifact conservation. some of the artifacts we have are desperately in need of conservation work. i would say that this is a
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tremendous, almost a miraculous, find. certainly, it is a miracle that it was able to survive and is now on its way to being in a museum. so it is really an extraordinary space. they believe that this is the only 19th-century boardinghouse space that has been preserved like this in washington part of the museum process will be including interpretation about the boardinghouse because , many of the people who came to washington do that their time here was probably temporary , and did not want to buy a house, or anything. and congressmen would actually live in boardinghouse is instead of renting a house or buying a place in the d.c. area. this is really a pretty significant find. we hope to have a welcome center
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open on the first floor by the end of this year, beginning december 2012 to january 2013. we hope this will peak people's interest while the work takes place. just recently, the general services administration got in touch with my museum, the national museum of civil war medicine, and together we propose a partnership to make the space a museum so that people everywhere could enjoy the historical significance of this, and hopefully learn about humanitarianism, and importance of public service. the building was scheduled for demolition. they did end up selling it with perpetual easement for the third floor, which was mrs. barnes space, and half of the first floor, where we hope to put in a welcome center and
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have educational programs. it felt strongly about this and was waiting for the right partner to come along. the medical museum aspect of it, and of course clara barton contributed significantly to the medical efforts during the american civil war. she is a natural part of our museum already. we were very enthusiastic about being able to tell people more about her and use the space to do that. this is the space that she would have lived in. if you look up at the ceiling, you can see where each of the support beams are. you can see the beam across here with the holes in it. those are the original walls for the boarding rooms. this room would have been room number six. when you cross here, it would be room number nine. when you cross the other post, you are in room number 11, which
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divided her space and use tougher storage and have for her own personal space. it is right behind that wall. wall went all the way across, and the door, over here, was the original door. she had another door at it on to the other side. the space, of course, as you see it now, has not received any treatment whatsoever. regulations,fety the fire suppression system has been put in, but besides that, you can see, the wiring is not in place, it is more temporary. down over there is one of the where thehanging down light would have been for that room. place. a different seven street was one of the main streets in washington. the market was down at the end of the street, where the
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national archive is now. ofs street was full businesses on the first floor, and was considered a business district. that is how it was described by her friends and colleagues, when they described the living space here. not exactly the most family atmosphere. one of the reasons, i believe, that she took a room here was because her office is right down the street, just one block away. it was easy for her to walk down the stairs, of the building, and just go over, one block, and she was at her office. she got involved here because she moved to washington after a bad experience in public schooling. she founded a public school in it from threeew students to over 600, and when the town decided they wanted this to be a permanent fixture
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in the community, they hired a man to be the principal. back in those days, women were not considered competent to do things like that. even though clara had built the place, when she was replaced, she was, let's say, a little bit on the insulted side. she left pretty quickly and decided to move down to washington, d.c. why,aid she wasn't sure but she did come down to washington, i guess a change of pace. she was very independent and did not want to be considered a dependent of her family massachusetts. she was developing her own independent life. washington was a good place to do that. she was a fantastic organizer and clerk, and had fantastic had ready for the day. she was able to secure a
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position through a man from massachusetts, charles mason, to as is confidential clerk at the same rate that men unusuald, and extremely condition. in government before that, but they were subsidy by men. there was an uproar in the patent office, and not only did she end up losing her job, but all the other women in her office were literally thrown out of the office and forced to go to the patent office, pickup work, do it at home, and bring it back for much less pay. this upset her and the so that she eventually moved back to massachusetts for a couple of years where she floundered. left.mmissioner had
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when he came back in 1860, he wrote to clara and said, come work for me, i'm back in washington. she did in late 1860, and got her job back at the patent office. during the beginning of the civil war, after fort sumter, what set it off work on the baltimore riots. abraham lincoln called 1400 troops up, and the first people happened to be the former school children of clara barton. when she heard that they were the fellows who were wounded and needed to be cared for at the senate chambers, she made a mad dash to visit them because she knew they were former students and friends of hers. she saw that they had absolutely nothing. they have lost all of the things that they had brought on the train with them in baltimore,
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and the u.s. government was woundeded to treat the this way. they are sitting in the senate chamber on marble floors. she came home and got everything she could spare and started asking her friends for supplies, and row home to her friends in new england for supplies. now she is in the humanitarian relief supply business. she very quickly realized what a large job this is. something she was very well suited for. basically, after years of floundering, and not knowing what she wanted to do with her life, she found it here in washington, d.c. in the senate chambers. she started gathering up supplies and loving the lobbying department. that was a tremendous service
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because, although they felt a woman at the time could not handle going on the battlefield, and helpdid she go on the wounded, she would go forward and help wounded soldiers being pulled off the field. she always said that she wanted to fill the void and need where they were out there here that is really how she became the humanitarian relief organizer that she is known for today, and develop the american red cross. it is a german the story. story.a tremendous here are some things that we found in the space. a big chunk of wallpaper. you can see, several layers. the top layer was the last layer 1910. before one of my favorite things is the walls were all made from
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horsehair plaster. as you can see, there is a big this of horsehair in plaster. this is definitely original. fromy good solid wall horsehair plaster. these are some of the things that were saved in order to assist us and be conservation process. we found a lot of wallpaper hanging everywhere. that is a great source for trying to re-create the way the space looked when clara barton was living in here. some of the other really cool things that we found are these -- these are box locks. they are made out of brass. the originals from the door. it was not really socially sensible for a single woman to have a man visiting, so she
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would definitely want her privacy protected, although she did have quite a few callers including congressman and high-level military officials. only person that she ever got to me as significance was abraham see of -- did not get to abrahamance was lincoln. i think she regretted that after he was assassinated. she had a lot of admiration for abraham lincoln. this contraption here, when i went up to the attic, i pulled anything of b reach that looks like old wood. this was one of the items i had to get out from underneath a bunch of construction trash from the replacement of the roof. this, we have realized, is the top frame for a canopy that went
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on an ambulance. my boss was actually able to identify it, probably mostly because we are in the medical museum business, and ambulances from the civil war were very important for transporting the wounded, as well as supplies. we were very excited to be able to find this. they're not very many of these and existence left -- in existence left. , of course, try to reuse everything. she had a lot of pieces that she could put back together. i can show you a couple of those later. one of them had some very interesting writing on it that is confusing us at this point. we di do not know that this claraged -- belonged to because there were so many people working on the floor.
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theays, the souls of departed, money no object, cash paid to satan. it is very curious and intriguing to wonder why this would be in the addicts -- in the attic. it is a very unusual sign. this, which we found in the attic, is the envelope for a military portfolio, as it is called here. fundraisingis as a product while the civil war was going on. you see how nice the engraving work is on this. indicated to is include 30-40 sheets of paper, a pocket, blotting paper,
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calendar. quite a few things in here. i'm not sure how that could all possibly fit in one of these. to had tied this together hang up for when she was trying to sell these. she had a booth at the market and she would hang this up and people could come by, where she was, and take a look at what she had. .he produced many of these some of the things that we found in the attic where the boxes and containers that she purchased to fill these portfolios up with. we found several of these in the attic. she also, of course, collected a lot of things to use in the field. like aree bags that i the salt bags.
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salt was very important to the diet. many of the foods were preserved in salt. of course, people like to use salt as a spice. a little more socially, we found out there in the attic -- up there in the attic, one of these carpet slippers. or not, this is a carpets clt slipper that you would lounge around in the house. men, at that time, use very fancy things, especially when they were at home. it is really not that unusual. oil on the end, we have an haversack. it has a small booklet in its i from 1857 to pull out that we believe belonged to
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edward shaw. the other thing, we're going to and this piece as a set, when in reality, you see the buttonholes, this is a haversack liner, commonly used during the civil war. it would not have been very unusual at all to find something like this in the ad it. i can't say it belongs to the haversack, but it is quite possible that it did. the one last thing that intrigues many people is this item right here. this is a military baronet. it was also found in the attic. several people have asked me why . why would clara barton be carrying a baronet around with her? i do not think she used it as
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protection. it was an all-purpose tool. rather than using it in battle, you could also use it for things like stick it in the ground as a candleholder. you could use it for taking digging things. they probably use it for cry prying things open. ,eally it has 100 and one uses at least. people appreciated having these not as a weapon, as much as for a tool. wrap doughys would around it or use it as a skewer when eating. there are a lot of neat things you can do with the baronet that made it a very handy tool at that time. if you want to come across the hall, another fabulous artifact
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that we have, another one of my favorites is up on the ceiling. one of the things the claire wrote about in her diary is you and lightide white lou wallpaper on the ceiling, that is the wallpaper that clara described putting up in the night during her time here. she had insomnia, and because of that, she writes in her diary that one that she could not startedo she got up and wallpapering. this is the wallpaper you see a. then she describes in her diary. listed ashave this her boarding room, so we are wondering if she was now -- if she lived in the space for an amount of time. these are some of the mysteries of the clues that we find in the building that make this place so
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interesting and fascinating because there is kind of a contradictory picture right now. i think this was a higher scale boardinghouse. i don't think it was for middle-class people. clara came from a family that was fairly well-to-do. the other borders in here where professionals. she received such high-level people visiting her that i think it would have been a very nice place to come to. although, she does talk about it being cheerless, whenever she came back to recover from her the battlefield. she tended towards depression. just like with other depressed people, i think when things did not go the way she had hoped, she would get depressed.
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many times, when she went into the field, if she was not sick when she left, she was sick while she was there. at the battle of antietam, she got what she thought was typhoid fever, which is potentially fatal. she was so sick that after three days, she had to leave the area. she could not continue on. that was the first place where she was able to get to the battlefield while the battle was going on. it is really an extraordinary feat, when you consider how sick she was, and she still went all the way out and participated in helping the wounded get off the , and providing relief not only for the wounded, but for their caretakers. the u.s. army was doing the best they could, and actually did
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make v very good strides medically and logistically throughout the war. with the numbers that they had, it was very difficult for them to keep up. soldiers, missing naturally fell into a category that was somewhat neglected. keepas very happy to herself busy and involved at times when she did not have a whole lot of other work to be doing. into anyrally fell time of war when you have missing soldiers. clara barton was actually the getting a charter for the international red cross, she was the one who had an amendment made for the red cross to include natural disasters, not just war. ofould like to think that
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course she did not want to be working during the war, but if there was no war, what would she be doing? she was happy to add natural disaster and expand the amount of services that she could provide to include not just the military but everyday citizens, first in the united states, and then internationally. is verying persons area important to that. built motels in the natural disaster area for her to give people a place to live when they had lost everything. to limitdid not want it to military function. she really wanted to be able to
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touch as many people as she possibly could. i work for the national museum of civil war medicine. we are a nonprofit museum, privately owned, where we specialize in telling the story and the lightning people on the medical innovations that took place during the civil war. civil war medicine, through the movies, especially, has been , and theys butchers did not have anesthesia. while some of that is true, some of the medical innovations that took place during the war still affect people today. some of the leadership that was developed during the war, , isuse of their situation the leadership that we can still use today. in fact, my museum trains most of the medical administrative managers that are going over with the u.s. army overseas to
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places like iraq and afghanistan. they get these management and leadership lessons from my museum. they learned lessons in how not to have to reinvent the wheel, and how important support people are to the process, instead of just focusing on the surgeon who does the surgery, he has a whole crew of logistical people and supply people behind him. if he did not do his job, they did not do theirs. we want to make sure that the message gets out that even though people think history has gone by and it is not important to us, it is very important because it is still affecting our lives today. i can tell you a great story about a fellow who came and took our class and thought that there was nothing he could get from
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this, but later on, he was involved in the cleanup in hurricane katrina, and he called my boss to say, i'm calling to apologize because now, i do not have running water, i don't have electricity, i don't have transportation. i'm in 1862. he said, he got it because he could use letterman's plan of how to cope with this and get the job done, and save lives. i think our mission is very exciting. i feel very privileged to be able to work for the organization. 1868, we'releft in not really sure what the space was used for other than a continued to be a boardinghouse. edward shaw was here until 1911. we are still in the process of going through all of the
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thousands of pages of paperwork to really nail down who lives and how they might have been involved in the soldiers office. i believe, from what i have seen, some of the clerks who worked in the office lived in the space also. it appears that some of them boarded here also, which made work easy. they must have worked very long hours. they were paid. she paid them and had a leave clerk who manage the office in her absence. they were very successful in the short years that they were doing the work. this room is one that is most associated with edward shah. one of the very interesting things about this room is the
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graffiti that was found on the wall. according to the wallpaper historians, it is not civil war wallpaper, therefore does not civil war graffiti. it is still very interesting nonetheless. it has the names and addresses of people. over here is my favorite. birch's cigare -- store. george the address of a harris. by days a lot of lists of the week, numbers, it looks like someone was adding and subtracting. it is a very interesting wall. this one over here also has quite a bit of writing on it.
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was born in massachusetts, very close to clara claire came from -- came from. had a lawd yell and hadee -- attended yale and a law degree. after the war, he got a job with office ands general medicalestablish the museum which is now called the national museum of health and medicine. that is also nearby. malled to be on the and was the first time that the u.s. government collected .pecimens for study
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the general services and administration has $1.5 million to use for the conservation and restoration projects on both the first floor and the third floor. my museum is trying to raise about $5.5 million to finish doing what the general services the administration does not have funding for to really finish up the place, and of course, develop and implement more educational programming. the goal is to re-create the erace as if clara and h clerks had just left for a reason, so when you are coming back, you're coming to the clerks' office.
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>> good afternoon. you are watching american history tv. you are looking at the andersonville prison. we take you live now to the andersonville national historic site and cemetery in andersonville, georgia for the next three hours, taking your phone calls and the commemorative funeral for the soldiers who died here. joining us from the andersonville national cemetery, adjacent to the cemetery location is the chief of the historical site and will be with us for the next hour to talk about the history of andersonville and why does consider the most notorious site of the civil war. we are joining our phone line so you can join the conversation.
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if you want to join the -748-8900.on, 202 you can also post questions and .omments on our facebook page mr. leonard, thank you for joining us this afternoon. mr. leonard: it is my pleasure to be here. let's start with where is andersonville? it is important to start with this idea that military prisoners and prisoners of war are often left out of the mainstream telling of the war. quite friendly, there are no winners in the story. this is not a battlefield. it is
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