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hampshire about alcohol and drug abuse. he was joined by his wife and daughters. this is an hour. >> there's room for about three people in there. >> there he is. [ applause ] >> where am i supposed to go? >> right there. i'm going to introduce you. >> okay. >> this is governor kasich. we'd like to welcome governor kasich and his family, his daughters emma and reese, and wife karen. they've traveled -- >> there's my third daughter megan. >> i'm sorry. this is katy.

it's communities for alcohol and drug-free youth. it's a small nonprofit. our board members in attendance today include michelle, mary, who is over here, leslie who is in the entryway, mike, amy, and paul. our executive director she would definitely be here, except she's on vacation. >> where is she? >> florida. >> let me make a recommendation. i think you ought to add a couple people to the board who are famous people in new hampshire, particularly athletes. i don't know if you have. i'm sure you do. do we have any former dartmouth

football or basketball player? we've got to have -- but what i'm really for is creditability with these kids. i think you need to have some youth, even if you put them on the board and you make them honorary board members or whatever because we've got to be in all the schools. that's where you get to these kids. there's got to be somebody that can really relate to them. am i right, girls? >> because no one is going to listen -- >> to adults. right. think about that a little bit. >> all right. well, our youth advisory and advocacy council are going to do a little thing for you. >> great names here. >> would you move over?

mollie brown, nora doyle, rosa bailey, christian bixby, and our staff members. >> i'm sorry. i didn't hear you because they're talking. how do you want to do this? >> put that on your collar. >> i don't have a collar. would you do it? >> i'll put this right here. >> these two young ladies are going to make a presentation. >> this young man. >> okay. who are you guys? tell me. >> my name is mollie brown. i'm 17 and home schooled. >> i'm nora doyle. i'm 17. i'm a student at plymouth

regional high school. >> i'm matt doyle and i also go to plymouth regional high school. >> okay. let's hear it. >> first of all, thank you very much for coming and investing your time to speak with us about this really important issue of the opiate drug crisis. it's an honor to have you here and to be able to speak to you about what we see and experience as teenagers every day. we're the community for alcohol and drug-free youth youth advisory council. >> the program encourages us to inspire our peers. this past october we were honored to accept the 2015 youth in action advocacy award for a project we completed this last year. >> during the education

component, we are provided with the background information on a topic that we're interested in and we research and discuss the issue to better understand the problem. we develop skills needed to create change. some skills we've learned include using media tools, gathering research-based information and data, and organization of these facts into presentations and learning how to speak to people will listen. >> we then take action. we're provided with opportunities to put our leadership skills into use. in april 2015 we testified in front of the new hampshire state finance committee to increase funding for prevention -- >> the three of you did? >> one other person with us. >> so four of you? good. >> i was not there. >> so the alcohol fund originally took 5% of growth sales and was invested back into the prevention and treatment programs. over the years alcohol sales

increased, but the alcohol fund was never fully funded for prevention or treatment. most prevention programs were defunded. >> what happened there, young lady? >> the alcohol fund was designed to take 5% of gross profits and put it back into prevention and treatment programs. and over the years the alcohol sales increased, but the alcohol fund was never fully funded, so we testified to bring funding back up to prevention programs. >> tom -- >> see if you can step back in. >> thank you. that's an interesting point. we need to make a note of that. tom? he's not here yet. he knows all these people.

so it was supposed to be 5% and even though the amount grew, the 5% is not 5% anymore. >> correct. >> the way it works, i'm a state representative -- >> you are? perfect. >> what happened was ned gordan, who is a judge in new hampshire, originally he was a senator. he put in this provision that 5% of the liquor profits would go toward prevention. >> right. >> and services, but the way new hampshire works we had very limited budget. we have no income or sales tax. >> right. >> there's totally unwilling -- there's no political will to change that. >> but it was established at 5%, it should have grown. they took some of the money away from it? >> every year we changed the percentage and robbed the money that should have been gone --

and sometimes completely robbed it. >> when i look at the alcohol and the 5% -- while alcohol is a big issue for us, that 5% could be used to fight the prescription drug and houses and treatment and all that. so they took some of the 5% and divert some of it. >> they divert it mostly, yeah. >> we're famous for that. >> well, the thing is when you get yourself in a bind, it's kind of easy to ignore what you view as some of these soft things, but it is like pay me now or pay me later. >> exactly. very interesting. the other thing new hampshire people that they did here that you know is expanding medicaid was a big plus. i kind of think that brought a lot of resources to help on this issue. >> we're continunting on that.

>> yeah, that's good. i'm learning. you don't mind if i ask questions? >> no. >> the sales are part of the issue. we make them farther of the solution as well. >> good. >> that was the goal for that. >> so we also got a chance to mentor. we also produce videos and psas to raise awareness. this past october we completed a social norms campaign during red ribbon week which took place october 23rd through the 30th. this campaign showed the majority of teenagers at plymouth regional high school do not use alcohol, tobacco, or other drugs. it empowers us all to ask questions and to really think about issues and to know why we shouldn't do drugs. ultimately we're prevention

leaders. >> this isn't necessary the fact for other communities. adolescence substance use is america's number one public health problem. 90% of americans with a substance abuse problem started smoking, drinking, or using other drugs before the age of 18. we would like to share with you some information specifically about new hampshire, but they're just as prevalent nationwide. >> new hampshire ranks in the top states among marijuana use. one in six new hampshire teens have abused prescription drugs. >> one in six? >> yes, sir. >> we think it is unwise for new hampshire to legalize marijuana. in this time where there's a national drug crisis the solution is definitely not to legalize another drug. >> in the upcoming session of the new hampshire legislature a

marijuana decriminalization bill is coming up again. perception of risk is a strong prevention strategy. we're concerned about the message if marijuana is decriminalized. will it lower the perception of risk? will the use of marijuana climb higher than it already is? >> a teenager's brain is wired to take risks. i'm sure this is not surprising to anyone. michael a national speaker on brain research presented risky busy, why adolescents love risk taking and how we can help manage it. >> three of the facts that he shared with us really stuck with all of us. one was our emotional intensity is two to four times greater than adults. when something happens positive or negative, we feel it two to four times greater.

two, we seek out emotional rewards. if something feels to us, that's what we'll be doing. number three, our brains are focused on the here and now. we don't think a lot about future consequences. that's where adults come in. in order to keep us safe, perception of risk and disapproval needs to be way higher, not lower. parents, adults, policymakers and leaders need to be aware that young people need guidance. >> marijuana is a gateway drug. the fact is marijuana introduces kids to a high that can lead to drug dependency. marijuana puts kids around people who use hard drugs. marijuana is a gateway drug. in fact, it was their gateway drug. certainly not everyone who used marijuana becomes addicted, but the vast majority in treatment began their use with marijuana. >> thc levels were only 2% to 3%

in the 70s. thc levels have increased to 13% and the levels continue to rise. this past year 2015 thc levels were averaging 23% to 30%. marijuana use continues to evolve. it is becoming more risky with how it is being used. >> substance abuse should not be looked at as harmless and a rite of passage. if adults attitude are permissi permissive, than the perception of risk is low. the human brain isn't fully developed into the mid 20s. adults need to remember the teen brain is a work in progress. when drugs are introduced at a young age, it wires their brain for addiction. any substance abuthat many youn person uses affects their lives

and in some sad cases ends them. >> if you look at this image, it shows the escalation of drug use during the teen years. this is known as the escalator chart. nine out of ten individuals struggling with addiction began drinking, smoking, and using other drugs before the age of 18. if we can prevent teen drug abuse, and we can, then we can prevent drug addiction. >> in new hampshire and nationally the number one reason why youth are using drugs is stress. teenagers are self-medicated. the need for the substance also increased. this is called dependency and it leads to addiction. more stress equals moriou more it becomes an unending cycle. they need to learn healthy

coping mechanisms and strategies. >> there are a lot of pressures being a teenager. if we don't have the proper tools to deal with the stress, many will continue to self-medicate. remember our brains are a work in process. >> there has been an alarming increase in drug-related deaths in new hampshire. substance abuse does not discriminate. it crosses all socioeconomic sectors, races, and religions. drug-relat drug-related deaths have been steadily increased. >> the solution to the problem is prevention. that's why we're here. prevention breaks the cycle crime, protects children, saves lives, and contains costs. >> we believe the solution is

the game whack-a-mole. it shows how we are reacting to the heroin epidemic. but the singular reaction is not a solution because the heroin epidemic stems from a larger substance abuse problem. the heroin epidemic was preventable. it resulted from overprescribing painkillers. once hooked on opioids, the next stop was heroin because it is far cheaper, easier to access, and essentially a bigger bang for the buck. what's interesting about this whack-a-mole image is that all drug problems are still present, but because they're not seen as a crisis, they're overlooked as less problematic because we're focused on only one thing at a time. heroin use is part of the larger substance abuse problem. nearly all people who are addicted to heroin also use at least one other drug. most use at least three other

drugs before experimenting with heroin. all drug use is dangerous and can lead to heroin use. people who are addicted to alcohol are two times more likely to be addicted to heroin, marijuana three times more likely, and prescription painkillers 40 times more likely to be addicted to heroin. yes, we are comparing whack-a-mole to the national drug kcrisis, but substance abue is not a game. i do not take to the rules and just use the padded hammer. i go in with two hands and with a couple of friends. in other words, i build a whole team to conquer the whack-a-mole game, but let's talk about prevention playing whack-a-mole. prevention has only a single person equipped with a very heavy padded hammer and this is not good enough because prevention also needs a team

approach. >> another example on how our country reacts to whack-a-mole theory is remediation. this is also known as the cleaning up the mess. instead of investing in smart, sensible, cost-effective solutions we wait until we have a devastating mess and are forced to throw a whole lot of money at the problem. if we can prevent addiction, then we can save lives and money. >> prevention in new hampshire and across the nation could benefit from increased youth prevention programs by implementiimplement ing curriculums to help adults. because isolation is also a major risk factor. >> we need to greatly expand outreach. prevention is going up against the multimillion dollar

megaphone. katy has an innovative media campaign tool kit that we're marketing to increase awareness of the substance abuse problem and to connect the dots to the solutions. prevention needs a strong team nationally for maximum influence and the first step to increase community awareness of the problem and engage the grass roots and policy makers like we're doing right now. >> we're examples of why and how prevention works. we've learned not only how it affects our brains and our bodies, but how detrimental it is to our health, relationships, and our future success. we know as a presidential candidate you have many issues at the forefront other than the drug crisis, but we believe the addiction crisis in large part

begins with young people and effects other issues like education, the workforce, and the general health, safety, and welfare of our country. we want our peers to know what we know, to have the opportunities that we all have, and to be able to lead healthy successful lives. we see this issue as a generational crisis. we're very concerned about our future. we need to fix this problem before the trend continues to grow. we know as governor you've been a national leader and we really thank you for that. addiction affects everyone. it's been called a family disease. now we see it more like a national disease. it touches everyone really. drug addiction is limiting the potential of our peers and ultimately the future of our entire nation. i care about prevention because i lost an aunt as well as a cousin to substance abuse. i also care about prevention

because i want to raise awareness. >> i care because drug and alcohol use is affecting us personally. it's taking away our generation's potential and leaving behind addiction and mental illness in our place. >> we want to have a secure, sustainable, and successful future. prevention programs give an alternative to following the crowd or believing that everyone is using substances. it debunks myths and empowers us to be part of the solution. prevention is powerful education. it gives us the choice after we know the facts and weigh our options. we're better informed and we're able to make better decisions. >> we're always told don't do drugs and just say no, but prevention programs explain why and not just because i said so. speaking as a teenager, it is confusing. there are a lot of conflicting messages in the media and in school and it can really hard to

say no. many see alcohol and drugs as a rite of passage because marijuana is being legalized. alcohol and other drugs are glorified in the media, music, television. >> some kids are lucky enough to have parents that talk to them about not using drugs or alcohol, but many don't have that support system at home. prevention is not just a feel good method of information. it answers for us real-life important questions that we need to know in this extremely confusing world. it's time to support youth prevention programs. our potential is limitless. we just need investment of sound policy and practice and we'll be empowered to make good choices. our country needs a leader who wants to protect all of us that includes investing in promising solutions. we want a leader to encourage us and to inspire us to lead healthy and successful lives and focus on what is really

important, our future. thank you for having us. [ applause ] >> governor kasich -- >> let me wife talk. she's been involved in a lot of this too. >> i can really appreciate what you're saying. i'm impressed with the three of you too. you're very poised. >> thank you. >> in ohio one of the things the governor's administration has started is a program called start talking because the research, as you probably know, shows that young people are 50% less likely to start using drugs if an adult, a respected adult in their lives, starts talking to them at an early age why, why not to use these drugs. the start talking program puts together all the resources that are out there in the state and in various venues, gets them to teachers, to families, to people in the community who come in contact with youth and help them do just that, start talking about why this is not a good

idea. that's one of the programs we have seen work and that i've been involved with. it always touches me because when we do go out to start doing a start talking presentation, we usually have a family member who has lost someone due to the effects of an overdose. it touches me that they would take their time to come out and share their experience to save others. >> i think one thing we've got to do is we've got to pick this up. today is martin luther king day. he was a heck of a leader. mind if i stick this over here on this easel? can we fit it on here too? probably knock the thing down here. here we go. so sweetie, you're right.

you're right about the schools, but i have to tell you we invited 5,000 people, the attorney general and i, on a call because we have the start talking program. i'm going to be very interested in what you think the most important messages are. we invited 5,000 people that were some sort of school entity. i think we had 200 that got on the call. we were not taken seriously. i can just tell you in my state i'm disappointed. how can we have -- we know that these programs of -- they say they need to have descriptions of why they shouldn't do drugs. actually what the evidence says is they just hear don't do drugs they won't do it. 50% less chance. now i'm going to be interested in hearing what they all say about what's the most effective message. but the schools are the place to go. by the way, i figured out who

you should ask to be on the board. seth meyers. he's on television. ask him to be an honorary board member of this. let these young people send him a note. if they can't get through to him, we'll help. i think it would be great to have a guy like seth meyers talking about the need to fight this. you know who he is? he's a big tv star. you don't know who he is. i was with leo last week. i would get him, but i'm not that close to him. leo dicaprio. any of you, what do you think is the most effective thing that you can hear when you're a young person about not doing drugs? >> there's actually a presentation that came to our school a few months ago that was done by an emt from the city of manchester about heroin because as we have mentioned, that is a

very prevalent issue at the moment. the presentation, i believe, was perfectly engineered for a high school audience because this man was intervening. it was a little comical in some places, but there was a fear factor involved as well, which is something that increases creditability when you're talking to a young audience because they don't take a lot of things seriously. he had a powerpoint and some of the images of people who had done heroin after they overdosed and were all bloated. it is disgusting. i scared people into not doing heroin. this is such a big issue that this is not an extreme and it's something that has to be done. >> if you girls were at a party and somebody said, here, take this pill. what would you think, reese? >> what would i think? >> why would you not do it or would you do it? i know you wouldn't. why? because i told you not to.

>> that's really it. >> is that really it? how about you, emma? you would say because i told you not to do it. i say it all the time. >> i think people if you go to a school, you can't have someone older, middle-age or up. i think you have to have younger hip people. when people come into our school and they're middle-aged men, which are usually the only ones coming in, people take them as a joke. why should i listen to you? >> how about a cool, hip middle-aged guy like me? but here's the thing. see what we do is in regard to the youth -- is what we do is we send talking points and the teacher delivers the message. not somebody else that comes into the school. or their peers. we also have a program where the

chief -- and i think we've shared a lot of this with your folks up here -- where we take our highway patrol and they talk to the student athletes. they recruit them as ambassadors in the school. then they tell their friends don't be doing drugs. how about you, megan? you see it in the cool, don't you? >> oh, yeah. i go to public school, so things are a lot different. since they're taught about the bible and god and stuff, a lot of the people in their school have their mind-set straight on more of the right things to do, but a lot of kids in my school just kind of do whatever they want. their parents don't guide them as well because they don't have god and stuff in their lives. >> how come you don't do drugs megan? >> i think it can really mess up your future. >> who told you that, your mom? your mom will kill you. >> governor, we had a program ca

t cati helped put together. alex, he's now in college. he kicked heroin, but he was a middle-class kid. >> that's right. >> no problem. he started in grade school and started with marijuana. he kept being offered more and more. his parents had no idea what was going on. he suggested what he thought one of the biggest deterrents is just what you were saying, rocki reese. you show people in detox. show what it is really like. not i just went and did this and followed up. show them what it's really like. >> the deal is take that young man or take sam, our friend, and take so many parents and

everything, there's not enough of them to go around. that's why you've got to create a network. it should be in every church, every synagogue, where they ought to talk about this like a couple times a month. and also in the schools because all you have to do is have an e-mail that gives you talking points for the week. and the teacher just looks at it. you don't need a lot of money to do this. let me explain to you. if you get hooked on these drugs, your future is going to be ruined because you're going to have weight on your back that'll you'll never be able to let go of. this is a haunting, horrible thing. kids will hear it. if your third grade teacher is telling you don't do drugs, you're going to listen to your third grade teacher. yet, we've not been able to fully engage the schools in this. it drives me insane because it doesn't take much. if i hasn't had a call about how

we're going to spend some more money, i would have had $5,000 people on the call. what are you going to do? where else are you going to go? we send e-mails to the parents, but it's kind of hard -- we're doing everything we can possibly do, but these big organizations where kids are are the ones that have to hear it. just last week i was up here at hotel washington. we weren't there, tom, but bruce was there and gordan was there. this guy comes up to me and he says, my daughter -- i think it was the daughter. my daughter is a recovering heroin addict and her daughter 13 years old was there. i see this little girl. i put my arm around here. maybe i got her a little bit spooked, but probably not. i just looked at her and i told

her aunt -- and we got our people. we said this girl needs help. you're 13 years old and your mother is a heroin addict. what do you think is going to happen with you if somebody doesn't talk to you? you've got counseling now that's involved here. we've got friends who are very wealthy. our friend's sister has a son and a daughter all of whom overdosed, right, and they've got four kids. think about the extent of this. >> had four kids. >> they've been taken now, the four kids. we could tell a billion stories about this. i think everybody knows it's real. now what do we do. i think this is a really great program that you've organized like this. maybe we could have them start something like this, but i have to keep doubling down on the schools. >> governor, the kids mentioned

cati has put together what we call the tool kit. it is this huge thing that other schools have purchased. they have thumb drives and everything for messages to go out every week. there are articles in the paper and information and a lot of schools are saying, good, we want a prevention program. we didn't know just how to go about it. it's been sold around the country. >> i would find out how many of your schools are doing it. mine have not shown the kind of interest that they should. we had a superintendent in the school district who said drugs are not an issue in our school. am i right? now we've got the best guy, paul inhofe. he's the best and he gets it. >> he has a totally different attitude. >> we would want to look at the packet, but you've got to use large organizations, the boys

club, the girls club. if we can get the information out there, we'll solve this problem. let me tell you what's really happened. i've been working on this for years. what happened was doctors were willy nilly young people -- you know what they did? you go to the dentist and they take out your wisdom teeth and they give you 20 oxycontin. now that the whole country is focused on how we can limit prescription drugs, you can't get them. we've been seeing prescribing dosage drop because now we have protocols. if you write a prescription, we know if you're out of bounds. and the limits have been set by physicians, so if you have chronic pain or acute pain, we're watching you. and we also have a medical board. now we'll take your license

away. we're not screwing around with this. you can no longer go from emergency room to emergency room. you can't do it anymore. then we have a link that hooks the pharmacy with the pharmacy board so we can monitor everything. used to be you had to log out and log on again to report. now there's an interface where you go right to the pharmacy board and we fixed the pharmacy board too. these are all really great things. what's happening now is the price of prescription drugs, because we've limited the supply, has gone up. so people can get heroin next to nothing. grandma, clean out your cabinets. clean out those cabinets because i believe the single biggest entry to heroin, the fastest way to get there is prescription drugs. i can't get them. i can't get oxycontin.

so now i go to heroin. now we have a problem in ohio with another drug. listen how wacky this is. there's a drug that they give you if you're dying of cancer. it's called fentanyl. i may have said it wrong. i may not have pronounced it right, but they can take that drug and lace it with heroin to give you an even stronger effect. that means that there are people that are actually taking this stuff making money taking it out of the hospitals. i mean, it's just nuts. every time you get your hand on it there's another ameba out here, but i believe it's busting the drug dealers. el chapo, right? you wait and watch how they try to glamorize this guy. i like what you said about this multiple messages. you watch a movie today.

i've watched a couple movies on the plane. you know what they're all about? violence and drugs. that's what they're all about and it's crap because it just keeps sending messages to these young people. anyway, we've got a great band the girl's school. they're called 21 pilots. have you ever heard of them? they know this founder of the band. they don't glamorize any of that stuff. you like 21 pilots? >> well, they're pretty good. >> well, it's all about being stressed out. that's their song, but they talk about how to deal with it. we'll have you meet them sometime. i've said enough. i love what these young people are doing, but we've got to bust

the drug dealers. we have to rehab people when they are on drugs. let me tell you, mary, what we've been able to do. by taking dollars -- frankly, we've moved our addiction services into the prisons and we treat people and we release them into the community and our recidivism rate is less than 20%, so there are really significant things happening, but we've got a real raging crisis. but we know it now, so i think we're going to move -- i think we're not going to be here. i think we're all beginning to realize it, but we have to get the network in place that sends the same message out over and over and over again. if you have better luck with your schools than we're having, you tell me what the secret is because i've got to figure it out. we've got to take it to the colleges and universities now too. and they will be more cooperative because i will make them more cooperative. we have to stick more things in

the budget and get these local schools. >> great thing about cati is we use the college interns to work with cati and to work with the kids. >> i think it's great. girls, you want to say anything more? no? no? no? why aren't you in school today? sweetie, what else? why don't you wrap it up? >> i don't have anything else to say. >> yeah, you do. you've got questions, yes. >> there's always going to be one person dealing with one other person. >> you are right. >> and you can do all the stuff from the top you want to do until you get the people whose boots are on the ground to do it one on one or one on two. you're not going to get anywhere. >> speaking of dr. king and all

that message, we are our neighbor neighbors' keepers. maybe we don't think we are, but we better be. we better keep an eye on what's happening around us. you're right about that. you know, i think there is -- i wrote a book many years ago and i talked about what's called the home run theory. if we can't hit a home run with the bases loaded, many times we think we shouldn't even bat. the fact is if you save one life, if you talk to one kid one at a time, two, three, you're right. you're right. so you need to stick your nose in these kids' business when you're at the restaurant. you go see them. all you say is please don't do drugs because i don't want to see you get crushed. stay away from the drugs. you know what my staff tells me? when you go to a school, don't tell them not to do drugs because you sound like an old

man and that's not appealing. forget it. who cares? if by my saying that there's one kid that doesn't do drugs, he might come up with a cure for alzheimer's. i'm going to keep telling them. >> in the alex story, when he talks to the kids in schools, after he does his presentation, it's done within actress that represents the story. then he takes questions. after the program, then they start dribbling back in and say where can i get help. i have a friend. i have a sister. >> it's just heartbreaking. >> we realize we need to have someone there to say go to so and so. here's a number to call because it's affecting everybody. >> yeah. when you think about that, the heartache and the heartbreak --

i mean this little 13-year-old girl i'm looking at her and i can see she's ready to collapse. her mom is a heroin addict. think about what it would be like if your mother was a heroin addict. >> our superintendent is here today. superintendent mark halloran. >> of the school? >> yes. cati is very much a part of our school. the work that the kids do is in our building every day. >> that's great. >> it's a terrific opportunity. i kn i don't know about those ohio superintendents. >> the schools have so many things that are going on, right? the open rate has been pretty good. you think i'm standing up here saying this i'm not going to get a bunch of people angry another

me in ohio. you think i don't know that? but it doesn't matter to me because this is a crisis. we have the open rate. it's pretty good open rate. to invite 5,000 people on a call and you get 200, tell me how you would feel. that doesn't mean we don't have great superintendents out there. maybe part of it is they don't think they can make a difference. i don't know what explains it, but i don't like it. i've got to keep at it and at it and i give a lot of credit to the attorney general because he thinks about this all the time as our lieutenant governor does, our highway patrol. we have to do better. why have you paid so much attention to it? >> because it's here in our community and it's important that in the schools that we address all of our community issues. not an academic education, but also how to be a good citizen and the responsibility you have

as an adult. and i think the work that nora and mack and all the kids here do is just incredible because their peers listen to them. i was particularly pleased to hear you talk about the presentation we had from the manchester emt. we got a lot of grief for that presentation. it was too gory. a number of parents were very upset, but i still think it was the right thing to do. i got the message out there and it showed people at the end of this -- and i think we did the right thing. >> it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter if they get mad at you, right? >> absolutely. >> what are you going to do? go hide in a hole somewhere? life is short. >> you're right. >> life is short. you know, it's got to be followed on though because they hear a presentation and then two months later -- it's like they say. they're wired for risk. it's a really good point, so we have to be constantly going,

right? once we get beyond it, because i think i think the prescription drugs are extremely serious. i agree with the other issues. i agree with all that, but that prescription drug problem, we can crank that down over time. i think we're going to have better results. that's my sense of it. do you agree with is ththat? >> i agree with that. i think the state licenses people, i think those interfaces are huge. i think for a number of years people act as islands. as you said, if you had your wisdom teeth taken out, here's your prescription and call me if you have dry socket or if you have this or you have that. they were pretty free and easy. and now -- >> and in our state the medical board looked the other way. i appointed a guy who is not a doctor to the medical board. his name is don kenny. he does not tolerate any

nonsense out of our physicians. if you violate the hippocratic oath, there's going to be consequences. this interface, the way i understand this is if you're a pharmacist, okay, and you need to report to the pharmacy board, just until now long ago you would have to log out, contact the pharmacy board, log back in. now we have the interface where they don't have to log out and log back in which makes their life >> i think it's catching on. you don't have kroe grks er up here, do you? kroeger is a grocery chain. and they've done a fantastic job. and the ceo of that chain has been awesome. so all the pharmacies in the kroegers in the state have been doing this. and we're trying to find out, is everybody doing it? it's interface and reporting. the other thing that we did is this was a couple years ago. i had this lady who runs the

department of ageing. and she is unbelievable. you get in her way, she'll run right over you. i asked her to meet with all the prescribers. and they originally wanted me to plan date a law on how they could prescribe. i said oh, wait a minute. why don't we just get everybody together. get anybody who's involved in prescribing and see if we can get a voluntary situation. if we get a voluntary u it's a lot better than if we hammer somebody. that's what we've done. it's really working. everybody understands the problem. yes? >> i understand the importance of value. i think another huge issue which you can't neglect is marijuana. >> no, i think that's right. >> it is addictive. and a lot of cases, and i know ohio just went through it, but it's going to happen. it's going to come up again. and this is a very big issue. and, i can see it, you know,

coming in the back door with medical marijuana and the ranks of the state, you know, federally, civilly. i think that's a huge issue that can't be neglected. >> i think that's right. it's just that when i look at the problem and where the most acute problem is, i find it in the other. i'm not going to tell you that that doesn't matter. i mean, i was so thrilled when the people of ohio voted it down. >> don't you think it's because it's trackable? the illegal use of marijuana is not as trackable. >> and i don't know enough about what they said about thc levels and all of that. but i know that i have found in looking at all of the things that we know, that the prescription drug gives you the kind of high that you want to sustain with heroin. that's what i know. they said exactly what i've been saying, which is you don't want to legalize marijuana because you don't want to send a mixed message. don't do drugs, but, by the way, this drug is okay. look, i mean, part of this -- one of the perverse ideas about

this is, well, we can make money and have money money for budgets if we legalize it. that's nuts, to me. okay. aren't you all glad i talk the way i always talk? nothing is anything different. my wife is going to say john, tone it down. but, you know, i don't agree with that. and, now, medical marijuana is a different issue. now, what i've told people in the state is we can't use it as a back door. but, you know, if a doctor were to -- if doctors were to come to me and say, you know, is there is an element of that that can be used to deal with the problem of seizures, because some of the young people, you know, they can have, like, 30 seizures a day. but it should be somewhat controlled.

but the other issue, like looking the other way like they do in colorado, i just don't agree with it. and i'm glad that they turned it down. >> you know, governor, we had medical marijuana taken three years to get a system in place. but it's very tightly secured. >> we're probably going to look at it. if you put that on the ballot, you're look e likely to pass it even if it has loopholes that say oh, our legislature is beginning. we're going to see what we do on that. but i appreciate what you're saying. yes, sir? >> governor, i want to thank you for your campaign. you are qualified on one of your delegates. so i hope i see you again. but it has been a wonderful campaign. >> well, you know, by the way, they're coming to trash me, you know. they're already starting.

jeb, mr. high ground, he's bringing his negativity and his trash. i guess when you've got a lot of billionaire friends, you can go ahead and do stuff like that. but it's all half truths. and that's all politics is. but, anyway, you know, i have a lot of press around. they all want to know, what are you going to do to break out? okay? what am i supposed to do? lower the bar? what about my daughters and my wife? my wife says to me you have seen the family for 20 minutes since the third of january. if i'm up here being a goof ball, than it isn't worth it. but if i can raise the bar and get people to realize that, you

know, that there is a way to improve our country, you don't have to be a yeller, screamer or negative, then i'm proud of what i've done, win or lose. win or lose, it doesn't matter. and i'm going to do my best. look, i'm, like, we all have seen it. i'm not going to tell you that i don't have the capability of doing something dumb, but i'm going to do my best. i believe life is short. so thank you for being a delegate. i believe life is short. so i want to have a good legacy. winning an election isn't all that matters in life. i don't want to get cross wised with him, believe me. >> we're proud of you. >> thank you. i so much appreciate -- >> you know, last night, we came in, there were 50 volunteers at the airport. and they got this car and they had the head lights turned.

it was like a movie. they shined a light on all of these volunteers, i got to meet them all and talk to them. some of them a hug. about believing that we believe -- i've been around politics a long time. and my idealism hasn't been chipped one little bit. i am a believer. one of you reporters just asked me, don't you think politic sds zero-sum game? that in order for someone to win, someone else has to lose. it is just the opposite. if we're in this business to help people's lives, everybody wins. and i have to tell you, one of the things that has most happened is we've had some tough court cases in cleveland.

i've encouraged protests, but nonviolence. we've gotten through it and we're moving to the next thing. that meant that everybody worked together. we don't want to be driving negativity. that's what i think. >> thank you again for coming today. i love what you said about family and community. >> there's a community that needs to be embraced so we can

have one mass community working towards what it looks like. so i just want to know, if you will put more funding towards treatment, intervention and recovery. prevention and recovery are the biggest bang we can get for our money nowadays. >> look, you don't know this, but i've been absolutely hammered because i brought resources back to ohio to treat the mentally ill. you know how i feel? i feel great that i did it. we now have the resources that have freed up the local community to be in a position where they can treat people. not with just those who are poor. this should speak for itself. this is a national issue.

while i believe that -- look, balanced budgets, you have to have priorities. she said it. they all said it, you know. pay me now or pay me a heck of a lot more later if you don't get on top of these issues. but i want to go back to what she said. it's family. it's community. it's the state. and she'll tell you that this state has changed because of this crisis. and when the movie comes out on el chappo, don't go. sorry, sean penn, you're out of luck. [ applause ]

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ladies and gentlemen, we know that we cannot, once again, listen to campaign conservatives who become elected liberals. we need someone who doesn't just talk the the talk or walk the walk. we need ted krooiz. thank you. well, thank you so very, very much. god bless the great state of new hampshire. i'm thrilled to be up here. i'm thrilled to be with so many friends. how about those patriots?

you guys are playing some foot ball. and, by the way, for the record, tom brady was framed. i'm not willing to pander on much. but on that, tom brady was framed. and i have it on good authority that hillary clinton was responsible. why else do you think she destroyed her e-mails. i appreciate you all coming out tonight. we're at a time when our country is in crisis. we are bankrupting our kids and grand kids. and, yet, i'm here tonight with a word of hope and encouragement.

all akroz cross the state of new hampshire, all across this country, people are wakening up. there is a spirit of revival that is sweeping this country. i want to ask everyone here to look forward. look forward to january 2017. if i am elected president, let me tell you what i intend to do the first day in office. the first thing i intend to do is rescind every single illegal and unconstitution nal executiv action taken by this president. just a week ago, president obama

signed more illegal executive actions, this time, trying to undermine our second amendment right to keep and bear arms. you live by the pen and die by the pen. and as you rightly noted, my pen has got an eraser. the second thing i intend to do -- oh, he'll already be out. and, by the way, if anyone wants to take up a collection to pay for his greens fees every day for the next year, i actually think he does far less damage on the golf course. but the second thing i want to do is instruct the department of justice to open an investigation

into planned parent hood on these horrible facilities. the administration of justice should be blind to party ideology. the only fidelity should be to the laws and the constitution of the united states. >> the third thing i intend to do on the first day of office is instruct the department of justice and the irs and every other federal agency that the persecution of religious liberty ends today. that means that every serviceman and woman has the right to seek out all mighty good and their

superior officer has nothing to say about it. the fourth thing i intend to do is rip to shreds this catastrophic iranian nuclear deal. listen, today, all of us are celebrating the return of five americans. let me give thanks to god. [ applause ] >> i've gotten to know his wife, who i spoke to briefly yesterday, she and her two little kids have lived without

their husband for three years. he was sentence d to eight year in prison in iran for the crime of preaching the gospel. so we are thrilled he's coming home. we're thrilled the other americans are coming home. but, at the same time, let me tell you, this deal that was cut, releasing 7 terrorists who have been helping iran acquire nuclear technology promises not to prosecute another 14 terrorists, that's 21 terrorists all together. it sadly patterns the administration. an individual now facing court marshal and, yet, the administration released five senior taliban terrorists in exchange for him. this is a dangerous signal to the world.

it is a sign, it is frankly an incentive. for every bad actor on earth to go and kidnap an american. what we're telling the terrorists is if you capture and american, it's open season. the single biggest threat of facing a nuclear iran. and we need a commander in chief who will stand up and say une kwif cably, under no circumstances will the nation of iran, led by a thee cattic iatola who chants death to ameri america, under no circumstances will they ever be allowed to acquire nuclear whens. [ applause

[ applause ] and every one of us was horrified last week to see ten american sailors on their knees with their hands on their head. i'll tell you, that image will sum up in one picture the absolute failures of the obama-clinton foreign policy. and i'll tell you this, if i'm elected president, american sailors will never be on their knees to a foreign power. the fifth thing i intend to do is begin the process to jerusalem who wants an internal capital of israel. [ applause

[ applause ] now that's day one. there are 365 days in a year. four years in a president shl term. and four years in a second term. [ applause ] every one of those days is going to be spent defending the constitution. as j.f.k. would say, with vigor. >> by the end of eight years, there's going to be a whole lot of newspaper reporters and editors and journalists who have checked themselves into therapy. [ laughter ] in the days that follow, i will

go to congress and we will repeal every word of obamacare. [ applause ] we'll pass common sense health care reform to make health insurance personal and affordable and keeps government from getting in between us and our doctors. in the days that follow, i will instruct the department of education that common core ends today. in the days that follow, we will finally, finally, finally secure the borders and end sank chew ware city.

there are 3670 sank chew ware jurisdictions in this country. every one of them is going to find their federal taxpayer dollars cut off. and, as you rightly noted, we will build a wall. and i've got somebody in mind to build it. >> in the days that follow, we will rebuild the military. and we will honor the sacred commitment to every soldier and sailor, airman and marine.

in january, 2017, that will end. we will fundamentally reform the v.a. to protect every veteran's right to choose his or her doctor. and we'll protect every serviceman and woman's constitutional right to keep and

bear arms. so the next time a jihadist walks into a recruiting center in chttanooga,he's going to feel the business end of firearms wielded by a dozen marines. we will have a commander in chief that stands up and says to the world, we will defeat radical terrorism. we'll have a president willing to utter the words radical islamic terrorism. and we will not weaken. we will not degrade.

we will utterly and completely destroy isis. the days that follow, we'll take on the epa. and the cfpw aj=e alphabet soup of federal agencies that have descended like locusts on farmers and ranchers and small businesses all across this country. you know, i'm reminded a few years ago, i said what's the difference between regulators and locusts. i said, well, the thing is, you can't use pesticides on the regulators. and this old west texas farnler,

he leaned back and said you want to bet? and in the days that follow, i will go to congress and we will pass fundamental tax reform. we will pass a schism flat tax. where every american can fill out your taxes on a postcard. and when we do that, we should abolish the ira. >> now, some of you all might be thinking, all of this makes sense to me: it's basic common sense. live -- those words, bernie and

common sense. it's sort of like matter and antimatter. they do come to exist. but that's not bad. i can't say that. but you can. simple principles. live within your means. follow the constitution. but can it be done? can we do it? scripture tells us there's nothing new under the sun. i think where we are today is very, very much like 1970, the jimmy carter administration.

same failed economic policy. same policy in '94. in fact, the very same countries. russia and iran, openly laughing at and mocking the president of the united states. now, why does that analogy give me so much hope and optimism? because we know how that story ended. all across this country, millions of men and women rose up and became the reagan revolution. and it didn't come from washington. washington despised ronald reagan. by the way, if you see a candidate who washington embraces, run and hide.

it came from the american people and it turned this country around. we went to millions lifted out of poverty in the prosperity in the american dream. we went from hostages in iran to winning the cold war and tearing the berlin wall to the ground. why am i so optimistic? because the same thing is happening again. all across this country, people are waking up. the washington elites despise him. i kind of thought that was the whole point of the campaign. listen, if you think things in

washington are doing great, then we need to keep headed in the same, basic direction, just fiddling around the edges, then i ain't your guy. on the other hand, if you think washington is fundamentally broken, that there is a bipartisan corruption of career politicians of both parties that get in bed with the lobbyists and special interests and grow and grow and grow government and we need to take power out of washington and back to we the people, that is what this campaign is all about. [ applause ] >> let me close with this. you know, for all of us here, freedom is not some abstract concept we read about in a school book.

that's exactly right. freedom is real. it's personal. it's our lives. it's our family. for me, i think about my dad. when he was a teenager, he was imprisoned and tortured. he found himself on the floor of a cuban jail cell. covered in mud and blood and grime. his teeth were shattered out of his mouth. and he remembers thinking, i don't have any kids. nobody depend on me. it doesn't matter if i live or if i die. and, yet, thankfully, god had

timpbt plans for my father. he was released from that jail cell. and, in 1957, my father fled to america. when he got here, he was 18 years old. couldn't speak english. had nothing, had a hundred dollars sewn into his underwear. i actually don't advise carrying money in your underwear. and he got a job. he and my mom went onto start a new business together. i saw the ups and downs, the fry um ofs and challenges of running a small family business. today, my dad is a pastor. he travels the country preaching the gospel.

>> when i was a kid, my dad used to say to me over and over again, when we faced oppression in cuba, i had a place to flee to. if we lose our freedom here, where do we go? that is why all of us are here tonight. we are not willing to go quietly into the night. we are not prepared to give up on our kids and grand kids. and i tell you this, if we defend the judeo christian values that build this country, if we stand as we, the people, then we will bring back, we will resto

restore that last best hope for mankind, that shining city on a hill that is the united states. well, with that, i am happy to answer or dodge any question you like.

>> that's a very good question. after i commented about new york values, which is how donald described his own values, well, it was interesting, our friends in the media, seems like they lit their hair on fire. they were very confused. well, what are these new york values of which you speak? and i would say and the rest of america, people know exactly what that means. but then, the sort of out rage got louder and lout louder and donald trump and hillary clinton and quo moe all demanded an apology. so i said all right, i am happy to apologize. i apologize to all the millions of new yorkers who have been abandoned by left wing, liberal politicians.

i apologize to all the working men and women in new york who'd like to provide for their families, but fraking has been banned so they don't get the high-paying jobs that are just south of the state of pennsylvania. i apologize to all the pro-life and prosecond amendment new yorkers who andrew quo moe said, "have no place in the state of new york." and i apologize to all the african american school children who the mayor tried to throw out of their charter schools that were providing them lifelines to the american dream. and, full-timely, i apologize to all the cops and firefighters and 9/11 heroes who were forced to stand and turn their back on mayor deblasio because over and over and over again, he sides with the looters and the criminals instead of the brave men and women in blue:

[ applause ] >> now, i'm not sure if that's exactly the apology they were looking for. glf ma'am, you are exactly right. for those of you all who couldn't hear the question, the question was do i think washington, democrats and republicans, get how angry the american people are after seven years. and the answer is no, they don't get it at all. and the most common thing you

hear as you travel the country, and you hear this from republicans, democrat x, independents libertarians. they go to washington and they stopped listening to us. they get in bed with washington. last year, i wrote a book. and the book spends a lot of time talking about what i call the washington cartel, which is the career politicians in both parties that get in bed in washington. we had a great example just a couple of weeks ago. where republican leadership had a trillion dollar omnibus bill, funded 100% of barack obama's big government agenda.

funded all of am mesty. and it was republican leadership who took the lead. they all publicly crowed how the republican leadership has just funded all of their big government agenda. that is nuts. and it's why people are fed up with washington. but it's also why we are saying so many conservatives unite behind our campaign. the natural next question is, okay, who has stood up to

washingto washington? and who's taken on not just democrats, but leaders of our own party. that's what we've got to do. we've got to stand with the american people against the bipartisan corruption of washington. and, by d way, the way we win the general is very, very simple. we run a populous campaign of hard working men and women, people who want to believe again in the promise of america. and we run it against the bipartisan corruption of washington that has embodied by hillary clinton. good question. how do i plan to demolish america's debt. i like your choice of verbs.

that is an incredibly important question. so, back in 2012, i spoke at the republican national convention down in tampa. and i talked about our national dealt. when i got back to the hotel and i pulled out my iphone, it turned out that paula poundstone, the comedian, was watching that night. i guess she had nothing better to do. and she sent a tweet. she said ted cruz just said when his daughter was born, the national debt was 10 trillion dlarsz. now it's $16 trillion. what the heck did she do? gll heidi and i laughed pretty hard. but, you know, caroline is seven.

i want you to think our national dealt has gone from $10 trillion to over $18 trillion. it's larger than the size of our economy. and what we're doing right now, it is fundmently immoral. if we don't stop it, your generation, will spend the rest of your life not working to meet the needs of the future, not working to meet your priorities, the challenges that come, but simply working to pay off the debt from your deadbeat parents and grandparents. in no generation has the history of america done this before. the only way to change it,

you've got to break the washington cartel. you've got to stop the cronies and the mandates. in the irs code. every loophole, every fail rottism, and that empowers washington. you get rid of that with a postcard, the beauty of a postcard, you can't fit very much text on a postcard. the laws of physics are on our side at that point. the only way to take on the washington cartel is to have the movement come from the people. it's got to be a grass roots

movement from the people. i'm a numbers guy. if you look at the federal budget, the most important factor is economic growth. since world war ii, our economy has grown, on average, 3.3% a year: if we don't turn around what i call the obama stagnation, if we stay at 1 and 2% growth, we can't solve these problems. on the other hand, if we get back to historic levels, that enables us to grow. it enables us to rebuild our military, to strepgten and preserve social security and medicare.