with her to meet with her and when we met with her she walked in as a secretary. she walked in as a political figure. she walked in as a presidential candidate. but she walked out as a compassionate mother, as a compassionate grandmother, as a compassionate wife. [ applause ] because it was no way in the world that she was going to be able to sit in a room with 12 different families and each one of us had a tragic story about our sons or daughters that had been murdered as a result of senseless gun violence. the meeting took a whole other turn because we poured out our heart where no other candidate would listen to us.

ms. clinton did. [ applause ] nobody reached out to us. nobody listened to us. nobody said, black lives matter. until this brave and powerful woman stood up for us. [ applause ] i was never, i was never into politics but now i am. and one of the reasons is because of her. because i feel that if she can stand up against all the men that she has to go up against, i can, too. [ applause ] and so, a lot of you have seen and heard about what happened with my 17-year-old son trayvon

martin. trayvon was 17 years old. he had just turned 17. he was minding his own business. he was not committing any crime. he was on the telephone with a young lady from miami. this person decided to pursue trayvon, to follow trayvon and to murder trayvon. trayvon was clearly profiled. the media wanted us to believe that it was about the hoodie but you guys know that everybody wears that hoodie. it does not matter if you're a black, white, purple, green. if you're african-american. if you're asian. if you're hispanic. you wear that hoodie. our young ladies and our young men wear those hoodies. so what was it about trayvon? it was about the color of his skin and we have to come to terms with that because only

when we come to terms with that will we come up with a solution about why it continues to happen. [ applause ] and so very simply, i'll say that it was that stood up for us. it was secretary clinton that met with us, that listened to us. no one took notes for her. she took notes herself. [ applause ] she knew about all the families that were in the room because her research team did their homework but she heard a lot more than she probably anticipated. and we poured out our heart to her because that's our passion right now. that's our passion for the rest of our lives. these stories as you call them, these tragedies for us, they never go away. i think about my son day in and day out.

i live with this day in and day out. these mothers live with this day in and day out. and we have an opportunity to have someone that's going to stand up for us as african-americans, for us as women. i say my vote goes to hillary clinton. [ applause ] >> we love you, hilary! >> hi. i'm maria hamilton. dontre's story wasn't in the mainframe. didn't get the national attention. he was demonized.

he was just a thought to the milwaukee police department, to the judicial system there. and dontre was 31. dontre was a young man that had a future bigger than life. dontre talked about bringing duffel bags of money home. and taking care of his family. dontre wanted to do a digital license plate. and was in the process of getting it done. and his life was stripped from him because of racism in milwaukee, wisconsin. we're the worst of everything in milwaukee. the justice i'm fighting for with this mother, it's across the board. it's our baby's educations.

it's their lives. it's where they live. it's where they learn. it's the churches they go to. we want them to live. i'm fighting for life. dontre was shot 14 times. he had 21 bullet holes in his body. because a starbucks manager said he was sitting too close to their stand in a public park. brought daylight. not bothering anybody. not asking for anything. the outfit that he had on was a $400 outfit. jordans. jabos. but she still seen him as a

homeless, black man that was disturbing starbucks from making money. so she called the police three times to have him removed out of the park. they came out. on both occasions, talked to dontre. spoke with her. the second time they came out they told her, he was a citizen. he wasn't doing anything wrong. they wasn't going to make him leave. she called a beat cop that she was familiar with. he had been a beat cop in that area. they had his personal cell phone number. they had his captain number. he missed the first message but when he got it, he instructed dispatch to reopen that situation after he had been informed that it had been closed not knowing that two police officers had already been there.

and they opened it and he went to the park. he struck dontre eight times with a baton. it wasn't considered a weapon because the police had it. once dontre felt as though he had to stop this man from beating him and retrieve the baton, it became a weapon. and his life was taken. there has been no accountability. dontre passed away april 30th, 2014. me and my family took to the streets. went to city hall. the police did 80% of the investigation. seven days before dontre was murdered scott walker, our

government, actually signed a bill stating that two outside entities were supposed to investigate. police involved shootings. that didn't happen. they did all the interviews of the 60 witnesses. there was no footage of video. christopher manning said he was hit in the head. when we went to the d.a.'s office and saw the pictures there was no bruises, no scars. christopher manning took pictures right afterwards. there was no signs of a struggle. but dontre brown skinned, my complexion, he had 12 bruises on his body. and they say self defense. christopher manning was fired by

his chief for breaking dontre's civil rights on the approach and for illegal patdown. it was a policy issue. he was not indicted on a local level. he was not indicted on a state level. he was not indicted on a federal level. i waited 22 months to get closure and go forward. hillary clinton came to milwaukee to talk with the college students at uwm. i had the opportunity, me and my next oldest son, to speak with her an give her our concerns. i broke down on her shoulder. i owe her a cleaning bill. [ laughter ] but she allowed it.

at first i was kind of embarrassed. but then, she told me i'm a mother and a grandmother. and i feel your pain. her and her staffers have been contacting me and my family to see how i was doing, how everything was going with the case. when it was final, they called me and told me, maria, what can we do? it wasn't high profile. i'm not here just to be on camera. i'm here because our babies are dying. the police is not being held accountable. there's law and stipulations and legislation that protects them. [ applause ] so they get out of their cars with their gun.

the police in the united states right now mentality is, i need to get home safe. after my shift. they're not concerned about the people they engage with doiurin their shift and when we start making them respect us as human beings in the urban areas by coming together, standing up and opening your eyes and seeing things with your eyes wide open we can get the accountability that we need. and we can love and cherish and raise our families, as well. thank you. [ applause ] >> first i want to give my

completeñr thanks to secretary clinton for allowing us to travel on her behalf around the country or specifically here in south carolina to tell you our stories and to tell you why it's so important first and foremost to vote but specifically to vote on her behalf. [ applause ] my name is lucy mcbath. i'm the mother of jordan davis, the man shot and killed in jacksonville, florida, november 23rd, 2012. when's called black friday. jordan and his friends were really excited about shopping and that's all that they were doing on november 23rd, 2012. shopping going from one mall to the next. and in the time that they actually stopped to get chewing gum because my son said, you guys, we are going to the next mall, if we're going to pick up girls we need to get some chewing gum because our breath

stinks. typical for teenage boys and typical for teenage boys is playing loud music. booming music. and so, in that 3 1/2 minutes time the boys stopped to get chewing gum and the driver of the car goes into the convenience store to get chewing gum and cigarettes, a man, michael dunn, 47-year-old white software developer, pulls in next to the boys in the parking lot. and within those 3 1/2 minutes he begins an argument in particular with my son about the volume of the music and because he was emboldened by the stand your ground law in the state of florida and the expansive law that is all over the country, based upon that law, being emboldened by that law, and implicit bias and his racist attitudes towards young men of color, he racially profiled the

boys, considered that they were thugs and gang bangers. he shot ten rounds into the car. three of the rounds that he shot into the car ballistics show that she was aimed for my child. for jordan. and three of those bullet that is he shot into the car actually did kill jordan instantly. the other seven bullets he continued to shoot at the boys as they were trying to get out of harm's way. he tracked them as if he were a policeman tracking them as they moved out of the parking lot. i truly believe that what gave him carte blanche sort to speak and the ability to shoot to kill, shoot first, ask questions later, what gave him the authority is the expansive gun culture and the radical gun laws that we have here in our country. [ applause ]

and because the gun laws have become so extremely radical, we see disproportionately in our community, communities of color, that people are acting out their implicit biases and racism through gun violence toward our communities. it is known that statistically that 30 times more black man will be gunned down by gun violence more than a white man. 30 times more -- a black woman will be gunned down through gun violence than a white woman. and black men will particularly live one year less in this country because they die by gun violence. they'll live one year less than a white male. i have had the great and profound privilege to stand on the podium with president obama

as he gave his executive orders in this country towards gun violence prevention. and being able to stand on that podium with him i could only think what my father would think. my father was illinois branch president of the naacp for over 20 years. he served on the executive board and i know that he would absolutely roll over in his grave if he knew that his grandson died by systemic racism, acted out by gun violence, the same things that he had been fighting for for those last 30, 40 years in the civil rights movement, i now have to fight on his behalf. [ applause ] i have been watching secretary clinton for many, many years. i have watched her as first lady

in this country. i have watched her as senator clinton in this country. i have watched her as secretary of state. i have watched her bring allies back to the fold again, back to the fray, countries that had long been forgotten about and she has done a good thing. [ applause ] i have no doubt in my mind that she will execute the executive orders of president obama. i have no doubt in my mind that she will make sure that instituted comprehensive background check legislation for all gun sales in this country. i have no doubt in my mind that she will make sure that any individuals in this country that are selling high volumes of gun that is consider themselves in the business of doing or selling

guns and they're gun dealers, i have no doubt she'll make sure they are fully and duly licensed. [ applause ] i have no doubt that she will make sure that we begin to eradicate the black market selling of guns, the number, high numbers of black market guns infiltrating our cities and most of those guns used against communities of color. i have no doubt that she will do everything in her power to make sure that she's keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals, the mentally ill and definitely making sure that she is putting into place common sense measures in existing gun laws. she's not against the second amendment rights for people to bear arms. make no mistake about that. she understands with the second amendment rights this people have to have common sense

measures put in place. [ applause ] basically, i know that she will execute gun -- i don't say gun control because it's not about controlling your guns. but gun violence prevention basically to save us for ourselves. [ applause ] i do know that she will make gun dealers and gun manufacturers accountable for the numbers of guns and the immunity that they have in this country towards what's happening in the gun culture. so i stand here before you, sit before you this evening to say i have no doubt she is the candidate of choice. i have no doubt -- [ applause ] i have no doubt that she cares about what's happening in our

communities and the nation at large. i have no doubt that she is the candidate that will protect and serve the constituents that have placed her in office and i have no doubt that if hi father were standing here with me today, he'd say well done because you're making the right choice. [ applause ] >> good evening, everyone. giving honor to god who is first in my life. i'm here today to endorse this wonderful woman. [ applause ] just like my fellow mothers said

before me, we have a personal experience with her. we department have to go looking for her. she came to us. okay? [ applause ] not one other presidential candidate even considered, even considered us. and secretary clinton, she reached out to me several times before the meeting in chicago. her staff, they constantly call me, told me anything that i need to call them and they would see what they could do. and at first i was saying, well, why are they calling me? you know? i just, you know, no one else had reached out like that. no other elected official had reached out like that. so you know how you get leary

sometime because what's going on? you know? but all in all, there was no catch. she was just genuinely concerned about all of our cases. [ applause ] and she has proved that time and time again. even after the meeting in chicago. she had follow-up letters, telephone calls. so it wasn't like this was an exploitation of us mothers because as you listen to the other mothers, you know we can't be exploited. all right? [ applause ] yes. as you all know, you all seem to take my son eric garner died on july 17th, 2014, by the hands of

police officers. let's not leave them out. everybody knows about police pandaleo but it was five other police officers, too, azumi son laid on the ground dying saying i can't believe. 11 times, 11 times he said i can't breathe. but the discerned officers, they chose to take his life. and to add insult to injury, there was no indictment. we had a full video showing that my son's rights, his civil rights, his equal rights and his human rights were violated. [ applause ] but we didn't get an indictment. where is the justice? what kind of world do we live in? that day, i will never forget as

long as i live. i have yet to see the full tape. the full video. but from what i've seen it plays over and over in my head. it's like a reoccurring nightmare. in fact, ladies and gentlemen, it's worse than a nightmare because i never wake up. but you know, at first i could do nothing but take to my bed. i didn't want do get up anymore. they had killed my son, my firstborn. for no reason. he was not armed. he was not committing any crime that day. he had just broken up a fight. he was targeted. and i say to you, if eric garner was a white man in the suburbs

standing on the corner selling cigarettes, it would not have gone down like that. [ applause ]  some very -- some -- my family found first of all they were there for me from beginning to end. some good people, i had the national action network. i had the justice -- i had a lot of people that came afterwards and gave me the strength to get out the bed. but foremost, it was the lord. he talked to me. [ applause ] and told me, are you going to lay there and die like your son or are you going to get up and you're going to uplift his name? and i thought about it. and i thought about there is so many other young men and women out there just like me that is

faceless and nameless. and i said to myself, well, my case was very high profiled. every american has uttered the name eric garner. so now i have to be the voice of the voiceless. because we cannot take this anymore. we have to get up and do something about it. we can't stand in our comfort zone anymore. we have to step out of the box. i never thought i would be up here. i never thought i would be an activi activist. i never thought i'd be in front of you making this statement. but it is what it is. so i say to you today, i had to turn my sorrow into a strategy.

my mourning into a movement. i took my pain and us mothers we empowered each other. so my son's death would not be in vain.çó and i will walk, speak, rally, do whatever it takes until my voice is heard and until justice is served. [ applause ] that's why i ask all of you to vote and to pick the right candidate and i think the right candidate is secretary clinton. she is the one for us! she will stand with us. she will be with us. and try to change policies. and again, i endorse her because she endorsed us first. all right.

[ applause ] thank you. [ applause ] >> wow. wow. and now you see why we call her mama gwen. hello. i am geneva reed-veal. i'm the mother of san bra bland. i tell people that to sit among these mothers and to know what pain really is, you know, you come across people and people don't know what to say to you. when you talk about in 2015 getting a phone call that your daughter, six feet, is found hanging in a jail cell from a five foot something partition, not only does that not add up, something is wrong with that.

she was unlawfully arrested. while she was down in texas on a job interview. she did get the job. she was going to be a student ambassador at her old alma mater prairie view a&m. sandy was extremely smart. sandy was a young lady who said, listen. i know my rights. and i'm not going to allow you to put your foot on my neck because i know what you're not supposed to be doing. and so, when she was unlawfully stopped and arrested, there was no -- clearly for the entire world to see the tape was put out. there was a bystander's tape which was thank god for that. that we were able to hear because there's never any audio on these tapes that seem to come out from the other side. but thank god for that video

that showed the whole world, you can be doing absolutely nothing, because she pulled over, because she was targeted, and the officer sped up behind her so she's pulling over to let him over. so she is now arrested for -- pulled over for a failure to signal but she ultimately after the stop became -- there was a shift in the stop. she was charged with assault on an officer. the family never saw any assault on the officer. i don't know if anybody anybody ever saw an assault on an officer but because of what she was charged with she was put in jail where she should have never been and it was indicated that she should be placed separate and apart because of the violent nature. sandy was merely minding her own

business. and officer incinia could not take it. he had an ego situation going on that day. so as a mother i say to any officer and anyone here to serve and protect, make sure that's you are doing and you are not isolating and neglecting. that is what i say to you. [ applause ] because i know for a fact if your boss says, my guy was wrong, you're wrong. but at the same time, because of the way our justice system works, seven months later, the gentleman has now been indicted on a perjury charge. okay? but he's still getting paid. okay? he's still on payroll. regardless of the fact that they said the termination is in progress. and so, when as a parent you say, how long is the process? how long is it? we don't know. it could take a year.

it could take months. we don't know. yes, absolutely, he was dead wrong. but guess what. you don't get any justice right now. because he needs a fair trial. okay? so i say to you as a mother, these mothers have all talked about the time of separation that we had to have from the world. we are grieving. we had to grieve in the open. and so, when you didn't see me at first, i was in a season and i tell people everywhere i go. there are five seasons, winter, spring, summer, fall and the season of shut up and sit down. so i was in that season when you didn't see me. i was literally in the house. i know what you're talking about. blinds closed. darkness everywhere. all you could do was cry. and you would have thought that myself, cornell west and don king had the same barber.

so, there was -- there was no way i could step out of the house at that time and tell the story because what you would have heard would not have been what should have come out. so i say to you, we sit here today and what i called a mess for a listening time because i was very angry and i'm still angry. don't mistake it. don't let the suits fool you. don't let the smile fool you. don't let the peace fool you. i am very angry. but i'm not angry enough to riot. i'm angry enough to vote for this lady. [ applause ] and i'll tell you why. just as a mom and i'm looking at my sister. these are some bad sisters right here. i'm telling you.

i say i'm honored to be on the stage with them but what i called a mess turned into a ministry and then i got a chance to meet these marvelous mothers and now we are in the mothers of the movement. and so i am grateful for the opportunity but secretary clinton, i met her at the congressional black caucus. congresswoman sheila jackson-lee who has been awesome from day one, day one! she had somebody call my family and say, hey, we're not taking this. from day one. so she introduce phd e to secretary clinton at the cbc and secretary clin, to you know, i'm going, okay, oh god, this is the secretary. oh jesse helus. she was calm and smooth and held my hand and looked in my face and said, what is it -- what do you want? what do you want out of this situation? we're in a room fuel of people. this is the secretary.

i'm so excited she didn't even know it. i'm trying to be real cool. you know? so i said, you know, i want justice for my daughter. and justice is something different for each of us. i am sure. but nonetheless, justice means that it's time for just us to stop getting justice. that's really what it means. okay? so after that, she came and she met with us and you want to talk about just someone who walked in. she needed no introduction. we all knew who she was. she walked in. being who she is, sat with us. knew every story. didn't rush us. allowed us to say everything we needed to say. asked us what we would like to see done and told us, you know, you guys would be really strong as a unit. you know? so we're thinking, okay, secretary, we hear you. but we really -- we heard her but we each had our thing going on. when i tell you today i could go

in my dining room, take my shoes off and say, secretary, come on over and have a seat and she would be at home. that is the type of intimate feeling that i felt sitting in that room with her. there were no heirs. there was no -- she didn't allow the media in which was awesome. there is no exploitation here. okay? i am sick and tired of hearing that. i am a little over 50 and i got to tell you. there is no exploitation here. there are no payments being made. there are no secret e-mails about this. okay? [ applause ] right? [ applause ] i'm just saying. i'm just saying. i'm just saying. please understand that she followed up. she told all of us before she left that room, she said, hey, you know, she was already late

running for the next function to go to but she didn't -- we took the photos. she was just very genuine. you cannot fake compassion. you cannot fake genuine. you cannot fake the fact that you care. i don't care if it's in the nine-month span of a window of a election. you can't fake that. she's proven that. when people say to me, why hillary, i say, why not? and i don't -- i don't think that there is a better, more qualified individual to get job done. and so as we sit here, yes, we are her cheerleaders, absolutely. no, we are not being coerced. you cannot take our personal interaction and turn it into a public lie. because we're telling you this is what has happened for us. and so, when i say to you that i made the decision to support secretary clinton, it is because

she is also mom, grandma, but she has so many other titles that she proved herself in and so i don't have to go back and tell you what she's done. check it out on the internet. okay? [ applause ] honestly. and to be able to sit here and endorse her, it is an honor. it is an honor. so i'll tell all of you before we get out of here today, we are serious when we tell you, you do not have an option not to vote. you don't. [ applause ] okay? there is no option. all right? you have no time and no right to complain if you don't get out to vote. okay? [ applause ] if you are tired, if you are angry, get angry enough to get to the poll. take someone with you.

if you know that there are a group of teens hanging on the corner, go get those teens and make sure that they're registered to vote. and let them know why this is important. we're going to have a situation if we stay home. we are going to have a situation if we don't vote for this woman. hey! that's where my vote is going. okay? so let's not be misunderstood. i would not be out here far from chicago wasting -- hey, hey. wasting time if it wasn't important for us. so we are running from place to place to place because this is serious. it is critical. we have nine months to put her in. she's the new baby. you know, when you're pregnant, you're expecting a baby. that's the baby right there. [ applause ] hold on. hold on. let's take this nine months and

let's deliver this baby. let's turn what's been a long history into her story. [ applause ] >> hello, everybody. i am not a mother. but i will tell you a story anyway. it was about five years ago that gabby was meeting with her constituents in a supermarket, safeway grocery store. you know, gabby was the kind of representative that tried to govern from the middle. to try to, you know, reach across the aisle, to get things done on behalf of her constituents and the american people. and she and her constituents were met that day in the parking

lot by a young man with a gun who was clearly mentally ill and should not have been in possession of that firearm. he shot gabby first giving her a serious, traumatic brain injury, murdered six others, including adds secretary clinton mentioned a 9-year-old girl who had high minded ideas about service and democracy and wanted to meet gab gabby. she was next in line and they never met. gabby was in the hospital for six months. i was commander of the space shuttle at the time. while she was in the hospital, i did my final space flight of space shuttle "endeavor." gabby got out of the hospital. resigned from congress about six months after that. that following summer is when the shooting in aurora happened where 12 people died. 58 injured. and about 30 seconds. about twice as long as what happened in tucson.

that was when gabby and i first started to think about this issue a little bit differently. how did we get to this point as a nation with 15 to 20 times the death rate of any other nation than any other industrialized country? 80%, 85% of all children who die from gun violence in the developed world die here in the united states. and it's complicated. you know, there isn't one thing, there isn't one single thing that we could change that would result in some of us not being on this stage here tonight. it is a very complicated and complex issue. it is incredibly political. it is incredibly driven by money and politics. [ applause ] and it's driven by a very powerful corporate interest who is very, very good at what they do and the result has been that

we currently have a congress that is in the grip of the gun lobby. and it's not only congress. it is state legislators. it is governors. it is city councils. it is mayors. it often also happens to be the president of the united states. not currently. [ applause ] but it has been in the past. and i think what all of us need to recognize is that elections matter. [ applause ] so gabby an i took a look at the candidates running for president and i think as we all know there are a lot of them. there are less every single day which is good. but there are a lot of them. and we looked at the records on this issue. and you know, it is very clear

and doesn't long to figure this out. that there is only one candidate that has the record and the experience to stand up to a very powerful corporate interest. [ applause ] so that's why gabby and i are here today to encourage all of you to get out and vote. it's so important. it is the most important thing i think any single individual does. especially in a presidential election year. so we know, you know sh obviously everybody in here would not be here tonight if they were not going to vote for secretary clinton. [ applause ] so it's more important than that is you get your friends out to vote. find the one, find the friend you think will vote for somebody else and change their mind. now, gabby has thought a lot

about this issue, as well. and it is -- you know, she takes the stuff very seriously. she serves in congress for two and a half terms before that she was a state senator. she was a state legislator. she really cares about this issue. she's also a gun owner. i'm a gun owner and supporters of the second amendment. same time there are things we can do to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, people who are dangerously mentally ill, domestic abusers. there is a lot we can do. there's a lot you can do and there is a lot a president clinton can do. [ applause ] and gabby is going to tell you why that is so very important. [ applause ]

hello! south carolina. [ applause ] great to be here today. i'm here to talk to you about hillary clinton. hillary is tough. [ applause ] she is courageous. she will fight to make our families safer. in the white house, she will stand up to the gun lobby. [ applause ] that's why i'm voting for hillary. [ applause ]

speaking is difficult for me. but come january i want to say these two words. madame president. [ applause ] >> oh. you know, the courage and the commitment turning sorrow into strategy, mourning into a movement, is just such a great message for everybody.

something that i hope you will take with you when you leave here tonight. something that is, yes, important for each of us up here but should be important for all of us every single one of us. and i am absolutely determined that together we will get justice. we will reform the criminal justice system. we will provide accountability for those in positions of power and responsibility. we will make progress toward common sense gun safety measures to deal with the gun culture and the epidemic of violence. to keep guns out of the hands of those who should not have them in the first place. and to look out for one another. to show more kindness, more respect for every human being.

every single one of us deserves nothing less than that. [ applause ] thank tha so i thank these extraordinary mothers i thank mark and gabby for being with me tonight. but i really hope that this is the beginning. that this is a movement that, yes, it does result in change and it does bring more people, as president obama said, to consider guns and violence as a voting issue, something that will motivate you and those you know to turn out on saturday for the south carolina primary, to turn out in november and to work together to make the changes we deserve to see. thank you all so much and good night. [ applause ]

>> hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary! hillary!

>> thank you so much. thank you.xd

the columbus dispatch is reporting that kasich's path to the nomination is getting murky. the website is dispatch.com. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. no problem at all. >> as you put it, good news for your governor is that he is the last of several current or former governors in this republican race. the bad news, he is teetering on the brink of you are relevance. how so? >> well, as we were talking off the air, you know, if you would

have told the kasich campaign people a few months ago that they would be the last current or former governor standing, they would outlast former governor bush after south carolina, they would be turning cart whi cartwheels because they would think it was in hand. as we all know, 2016 has turned out like no one has predicted. so governor kasich did really well in new hampshire. second place finish. got a lot of publicity, some donations, some endorsements. south carolina, he didn't compete very much and finished next to last down there. now comes some more states that are not necessarily real friendly to someone of his middle of the road fill os philq we have the so-called sec primary or super tuesday coming up on march 1st. a lot of of the stathe states a friendly to his type of candidacy. the other things is that many of

the states have a threshold, meaning that unless you get 15 or many more cases at least 20% of the vote, you don't qualify to get a single delegate. so of course, governor kasich has not gotten that total even his good showing in new hampshire, did not have him at that threshold. and that means if you don't make the threshold, all your votes go to the front-runners and just adds to their total. that leads us to where we are today, a lot of people are pressuring governor kasich to get out of the race, clear the space for marco rubio to be the standard bearer for -- i guess we have been calling for lack of a better term, the republican establishment against trump and to a lesser extent cruz. >> kasich has been spending time in michigan. that state's primary is beyond super tuesday on march 8. can he survive that long? >> that's one of the big questions. there are so many states voting march 1. a handful a couple of days

later. it just seems like he has to break through some place. certainly, at the least, the strong second or a strong third some place or he will lose relevan relevance. so far, he has gotten mulligans from the pundits who decide such things, collectively. he didn't compete very much in iowa. he did poorly there. okay. gave him a pass. a bit the same for south carolina. didn't do that much there, although, he was present for i think six days leading up to the primary. again, not his type of state. there's only so many mulligans you get in a real golf game or when i play, unfortunately. governor kasich is going to get so many in this contest and well. to say all these super tuesday states -- they're just not my kind of state, especially sta states -- you have mass machuses

massachusetts. the deep south at least. you've got vermont. bernie sanders' home state. saying that is not a relative moderate republican type of state is going to be a tough argument to make. >> public affairs editor for the columbus dispatch. let's talk about ohio. that primary is slated for march 15. you write that governor kasich's objective is to winnow the field so he can get a clear shot at donald trump. what do the latest polls tell you? >> we had a fresh poll out today. right now, he is running second to mr. trump. it's only a five-point gap. second is still second. usa well know, march 15th starts the winner takes all contest. there's no points for a close second. winner gets all of ohio's delegates. the same with i think the other states voting that day. the significance really going up. of course, if john kasich can't

win ohio, it's game over. there's no reason to continue. i think you would talk to most political people and say he will make up the five points. he will hold his own. what's important about this, how much effort is he going to have to put into holding the home country, if you will and not going to states like illinois and missouri that he was pointing to to win that day? he needs delegates, very obviously. he needs some wins. he was hoping that perhaps senator rubio would be busy fighting off mr. trump, perhaps senator cruz in florida. it turns out governor kasich may be fighting off the opponents in ohio just to remain viable in a totally must win state. >> public affairs editor for the columbus dispatch. he is joining us from columbus, ohio. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. appreciate the opportunity.

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