there may be local cases that may not be prosecuted. the person will be taken into custody and deported. if a jurisdiction has a concern over that, we will talk to them, but have to have assurances that ice would be able it get the individual back at the end of the adjudication so that the process could go under way. we are trying to be helpful of state and local colleagues desires and goals, but deal with this issue as well. >> i appreciate that and as an example of the cooperative relationship this committee had with the department of justice and with you as the new attorney general, i want to express gratitude to you. >> i'm not clear. will the department seek to cease any grants going to a

so-called sanctuary city if they violate your terms? will you seek to stop the grant program? >> if the grant is tied to the law, again it has to be an issue between the grant. it would be different from a grant for community policing. but certainly it is part of the audit process and the inspector general review and part of the overall grant management review and the department's criminal and civil division can take. if we receive a credibility allegation that a grantee violated a federal law, we will make that referral. again, there is an audit process in general, but we have the office of inspector ynl who can do a specific investigation of a specific jurisdiction or municipality. depending on how the allegation

arises. >> this is in response to the concerns that have been expressed and the discussions we have had with the chairman as well as other members. as i indicated, a way to deal with the issue immediately is to make sure that individuals were being released from the bureau of prisons rather than be released into state custody and will go into immigration custody and be dealt with for deportation there. part of the problem has been collaborative working relationship with the state and local partners as mr. chairman indicated, if there is a detain er and they will have to go into custody to be prosecuted. at the end of the state, where

they are not inclined to work with homeland security and as a general matter, we will instead use the immigration detainer first. where they indicated it will be a problem, but it is an area of great concern. it's an area of concern for us because there is case law that exists that only in one circuit and case law with a particular holding that in certain s, cities compliance with the provided information may be voluntary. so this matter may be unsettled for sometime in the courts. we feel a way to deal with this immediately and directly is to have the policy change as to have the review of what we have

been discussing. >> this committee had with the department of justice and i am grateful and they announced a new policy that the bureau of prisons will first check to see if there is an alien in the custody of the federal prisons has a deportation order and where that is in the case of this guy that murdered kate steinly and in response to the concerns that this committee addressed with the department of justice. they changed the bureau of prisons which we appreciate. you will not release that and hand them over to be deported. we thank you for the change in policy. that is important. we appreciate that and this will be litigated forever.

we can't wait on that. the lives of countless americans depend on quick action and in response to the concerns i expressed earlier, you responded immediately in a favorable way which i appreciate. they are moving right away to look carefully and we will provide you with the list that have policies where they will not share information with federal authorities. we will not share information and hand over to ice for deportation. you indicated that you will begin an audit process to ensure and encourage them. we are not looking to cut them off. we want to give them a chance to change the policy. change the policy so you hand these over for deportation. >> if i could suggest something, this is encouraging to hear

this. i believe the trusting and verifying. if you could give us a report for the period of time, four months. give us a report on how many of these you have actually had success with so we have a way to gauge how things are going. maybe make the course corrections as we go. this is significant. very important matter for a lot of us. i would like to know that it's working. is that agreement? >> i think that we are all moving to an evidence-based mottle and we are happy to work with the information both with regard to the new policy which i

think would be instructive also and instands where that occurs. when they go into the investigation if we refer to the inspector general and we wouldn't have that available. with the situations that come up, we can work with the committee to find a way to keep you informed. >> let's do a quarterly report to see how it's going. we would expect that you would give us a report on how things are going as much detail as you can give us at the end of the first quarter. >> i think that's a good idea. is that agreement. >> this is a significant change and they are grateful and it's a good time for it. they are just now coming in. the state jurisdictions are just

now beginning to send in the applications for the various law enforcement grands. it's a good time for the change to kick in. we will provide you with a list and refuse to honor detainers and i deeply appreciate this to ensure they are in compliance with title eight, 1373 and they have a chance to change the policy and try to avoid losing their federal grant moan. if they insist and we will work with you, if they insist on hanging on to the policy and they won't share information, don't ask for federal money. they are delighted to hear you work with the direction. we will work with you in a supportive way to ensure that happens and to make sure that

the communityinies across the country have what is so successful in the past. we appreciate very much your help this this matter and look forward to working with you. >> as the ranking member, i will ask a congressional for five minutes if i may. >> while you respond to the questions and because i understand it's very complicated and there is a lot of different things that need to be considered as you move forward. the criminal justice and civil rights and things like that that we have to face. i too would look forward to seeing the report.

i am confident that will be based on good judgment and laws that we expect to be able to follow. they had touched upon the issues of the policies and the guide lines of the sales and handling firearms elective to those folks. i won't take any time to do that, but i do notice that a lot of concerns we do have has been based upon lack of resources and things like that. i. ed to say that we as congress have been part and parcel of the providing of the appropriate resources in the past. i am very glad that this past year that we had an increase kpi think that bodes well for all members of the subcommittee have

an expectation on increasing the staffing and the training and i think that was a lot of concerns around that. a lot of this is because we are able to hire more folks to do the things that is expected of the department. we are making progress and sexual assaults on college campuses and with the atf, there is a lot of clarification on the kinds of priorities and policies that are by the atf. also in terms of law enforcement, this is going to be an increase in that sort of thing. it should be an expectation of this and i am gratified to see cops coming back. cops have a basis for improved community and police force

relationships. but they understand working in conjunction. we will learn a lot from that. >> one of the questions i wanted to formulate is around human trafficking and cyber systems and stalking. we just finished the super bowl in santa clara county. the super bowl was the culmination of a lot of work that has been done by different agencies. i have noticed that each department that is involved to make sure we have a safe environment and successful out come of activity like the super bowl which the next one will be in houston, i believe. over the last couple of years from this year, we have been looking at the services that is expected in terms of providing a

safe environment. i wanted to have a comment about budget, personnel, assignments in such a way to provide the services without having to juggle your different departments so the next super bowl in houston will be running smooth and seamlessly at the agency. so that the congressman can expect the houston super bowl to come out well as it did this past year. i don't care who is the team, but i hope it's the 49ers. the basic question is can you give us feedback on the budgetary approach to providing the necessary resources and personnel to address the kinds of expectations that one will

have with a safe environment at the next super bowl. we have's template and folk who is have been involved that we can touch bases with. i have been asking that question of every department. federal, local, and state. so that houston will have a good solid preparation in the event that whatever team goes to the super bowl will have a good out come and the two things that are very prominent in the planning will be human trafficking and cyber security and cyber stalk. do you have comments relative to that? >> the two important issues collide at an event like the super bowl or the olympics if we were to host it here. again, it would be a similar situation. certainly i think that not just

you, but your committee for the efforts on human trafficking. your efforts have made a difference in the lives of people. i for if you your support over the years and in this most recent budget as well. with respect to human trafficking, we are looking for the request that is $89.3 mail yen with $45 million going for the trafficking program and we are asking for a total of $121 million which would increase positions, the fbi would receive funds to enhance their investigative personnel and the number of cyber investigations and money to increase that and grants as well. with respect to an event like the super bowl, they come back to you with the more specific

information on that. in other large events, what happens at the planning stage is a great deal of coordination between the department of justice and homeland security. as well as the intelligence community to see if there was any national threats. for how many an trafficking in particular, every u.s. attorney's office is required to have a trafficking coordinator and be part of a task force. this pulls in the state and local partners and helps get information on the current state of affairs involving cases and investigations, but also things that are about to occur as large events like the super bowl are put together. prior to an event, the super bowl was in new jersey and my office when i was in the u.s. attorney's office was involved with the preparations for those events. months before the actual game is played, the planning for having

law enforcement presence and any victims we may be able to rescue begins to occur. looking at the resources they need. this is the local if we feel the narcotics will be involved. where we have had the situations where we increased that, i would appreciate the opportunity to give you more about a specific event as that comes to fruition. we have as you mentioned, templates for how they are put

together. also that it is not used as they often are to cover for the human trafficking. again, to note that the human trafficking task forces begin to focus on the effects months before they come into fruition and plans are set in place and specific plans are set in place. the establishment of human trafficking advisers which is going to be helpful and also look forward to hanging out with the chairman and that comes around. it should be a lot of fun. i didn't watch super bowl. i was at the command center and i figured the next super bowl i

will come over. >> i will get you out to the johnson space center. >> thank you very much. >> mr. chairman, we had questions and any of them need to be taken by the record. the plans to hire the positions over fy 17. we have been concerned by the prison locals about the use of augmentation and what that means for their own security. can you provide about the decrease and what it means is the process of using augmentation. i think mr. rogers and the

budget numbers are certainly lower than the request for last year. we did receive and we did not need to ask for it. that would not be an appropriate request. those funds are being used to alleviate the new position. the operations are not being cut. our overall numbers are going to be requesting not only initial positions, but funding to support the positions. a lot of them will be in the directional area and will be in the mental health area. this is cutting through all of the prisons. it's a problem that i hear from the state and local colleagues. this raises safety concerns for the inmates and the officers. as well as operational concerns. >> it relies on augmentations. to what extend are you relying on that with the positions that

may be hired? with the duties that support those of full time security officers at the facilities. we hear from they are not as trained or well trained in specific tasks within the prison system and they are being asked to fill in. they are raised for security for some of the locals. >> with respect to that, i don't have information for you at this time. we can have the staffs talk and you can get perspective to provide you with information for it. i had the opportunity to meet with the heads of the unions. i am happy to work with them on a number of recommendations. their concerns are important to me because they impact safety.

that allows inmates to work in the production of supply goods for other agencies and return for a stipend. is there additional savings that could be relying on this? what is this state of play? >> thank you for the chance to talk about federal prison industries. it's one of i think one of the ways in which we can back out into the community. we had situations where they expected and found that they received well trained individuals and loyal people who appreciate being given a chance to use their skills and become productive numbers of society.

we are supportive of that and they have a wide array of services. they use them and we are encouraging the agencies to consider them and looking to partner with other agencies to help in the effort. with respect to the current state of the see we recently brought a new ceo on board with 20 years of experience. he is very excited about the prospects of rebuilding this great program. in enhancing the great program. they are looking forward to working with him as well. >> i want to get one more question.

we want to get the secure content management and there have been if you can provide perspective with management and plans going forward. >> respect to the issue, it's important because you mentioned the release or the citizens or someone who is a law enforcement officer. with the law enforcement officers, the risks are enhance and we are involved in prosecuting individuals who released information at the behest of designated terrorist organizations. with respect to the cyber budget, i have a larger number

in there of $21 million, within that, we are requesting for 26.4 million, to bolster the physical security of our systems. i refer to a number of other agencies and we are dealing with the greatest of last century's technology in many ways. well put and maintained by dedicated staff. system are approaching end of life. systems are changing and the cost is growing. i will tell you that the justice is committed to this and looking for ways that we have the systems possible including in this budget request. >> do you have that moving quickly on the outside vendors?

i serve there and that can be incorporated in an environment that continues so rapidly and it creates new vulnerabilities every day. is there a balance between in house and relying on solutions and technology out there right now today? >> we have to go through the process, but we are allowed to use a variety of vendors and the process can be lengthy, but it is there for a reason. the va is an excellent example of all the issues we are discussing here. i look forward to working with you to ensure the department can be in that stream of improving our capacity. i will say that.

when it comes to case management and managing data for the lawyers who are litigating our cases, there several excellent programs that we are able to incorporate the national security data, they are not. not to say that there none, but a lot of that will depend on the type of system we are talking about with the ability to use outside vendors. >> our ranking member from new york. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would like to join my colleagues in welcoming our attorney general here with us today. the secretary of state was next door. we are moving efficiently and i hope effectively. thank you so much. i have a question regarding the atf funding proposed in the

president's budget. the budget request includes agencies to have gun crimes and strengthen the check system to ensure that firearms are not sold to persons who are legally prohibited from obtaining one. the request has funding to improve the ballistics network to help law enforcements solve firearm crimes. many members of congress are saying that we need to do a better job enforcing the gun laws. >> isn't it fair to say that the budget initiatives you are doing are designed to do what so many in congress say they want to do. that is to enforce the gun laws

on the books by helping state, local, and federal law enforcement to prevent gun crime and those who violate the laws. as they were looking at that most recently, it was exactly that. to view existing firearms laws and determine how to best leverage department resources to better protect the american people within that framework of laws. we have taken steps and that would increase funding. that would allow us to bring on personnel 80 of whom would be agents and 120 industry investigators or investigators

to support our new business of dealing with firearms. the special agents would be working on violent crime issues, trafficking case, and the like. they would enhance the efforts across the country. using the existing laws. certainly it has been a great use and the sharing of information at the federal, state, and local level. it has been extremely successful. the others we proposed enhance when guns are lost or stolen. we have seen that in terms of firearms recoveries from crime scenes. it is designed to tackle the difficult issues of both violent

crime and keeping them out. at the same time strengthening the background check system so that the licensed dealers have the best and most efficient system that they need. they are relying on the system as they go through a routine transaction will have the best and most efficient system as well to rely upon their business. >> i appreciate that and i want to follow-up on that issue. they prohibit them from buying a gun and they are either a danger to themselves or others who are unable to manage their own affairs. the social security administration indicated it will begin the rule making process to ensures that the national

institute of criminal background system receives all appropriate information. it had tens of thousands of systems that have a documented mental health issue. receive disability benefits and unable to manage them because of mental impairment. if you can give us an update including the justice department efforts to assist the social security administration in helping to ensure that persons with serious mental impairments do not have access to firearms. certainly the law prohibits those with certain mental illnesses from having firearms and they meet that. also they are required to

provide information that would assist them in being as complete as possible. they are engaging so they can in fact produce a clear legally consistent definition of what which types of adjustications and mental health would be required to be turned over to them. the department's role as with all rule making is to provide them as they go through the process. they will craft a rule and go out for public comment. they are received back and the agency this this case would provide a response. it is designed to make sure that the individuals who are clearly connected to the legal prohibition against being able to buy or maintain a firearm.

>> thank you, judge carter. >> mr. chairman. >> i think you can figure out i'm the chairman of homeland security by the chairman. they have been working to do all we can to investigate criminals and illegal aliens and smuggling across the southern border. there is a zeef officer from the land you must do your part and fall through with the consequences. the past two years you have requested and received increased funding for judges. mind you, these are courts used 99% of the time even though we

are increasing the number of courts. they wanted to see case after case administrativally closed allow them to circomvent. would you like to answer those questions? >> as you note, managing the immigration caseload has been challenging for all of us. those of us who were involved in prosecuting the cases and the department of homeland security as well. they deal with deportation and managing the issues that flow from that. i thank you again for your commitment to that as well. with respect to our immigration

judges, we received the tiring and the immigration judges. let me thank you for recognizing the need for hiring more immigration judges and expressed the department's appreciation for your support for that. with respect to the total immigration reform, we are in fact requesting funding and no new judges this year. we are using the funds and the additional funding is to make sure they are up and running. as you indicated, they are off on long waits and off in crowded courtrooms and using the funding request where it would be used to support for the judges. we want to full low integrate them. with respect to those on the

border, and i'm sure you will recall from dealing with the homeland security issues, we have waves of individuals coming across the border at different times. the composition of the groups will change. for example, when we had large numbers of unaccompanied children and young people, what they did was attempt rarely reassigned to the border areas to handle the influx of cases there. where the colleagues would be overwhelmed and we hope the judges hired last year would go a long way towards that. we have additional plan with the money appropriated. we can be flexible and if there

were to be a crisis again with another portion of the country, not the border, but the northwest border or the northern border. we would make sure that could staff up the offices and their colleagues would not be overwhelmed. that is how we would intend to deal with that. we can bring on board the judges and we do appreciate this committee's support of the efforts of the office of immigration reform. >> within the last four months, we had a sudden drop off this month over the last four months, our numbers on the uac are going right back up to 25 or 30,000. it's unusual at this time of the year, those of us who lived in texas and know what goes on at the border because we lived with it all of our lives. if it gets cold, people don't

come across the river. it's cold, people get wet. the situation is this is contrary to what we would expect. this means there is something driving people up here. if we can't get them before a judge, give them a notice to appear and they are then picked up by got knows what. we know where they're going. most of the children are 14 to 1235e7b years old. we have to fix that. i know you are trying and you

asked for more money. i will give it to you. i truly believe this is bringing them and that's an agency and a bureaucrat. thank you for what you are doing and i will be on your side. >> thank you, judge. i recognize the gentlemen from new york. >> thank you for being here with us. when i first came from puerto rico as a young boy, i started paying attention to what was being discussed at my house, it was the beginning of the civil rights movement and where they could vote in new york or not. that's in english and spanish and settled by the courts.

lately many of us have felt that we are making it harter for people to vote, not easier. they said you can ask for citizenship. that's struggled me because so many other people and we are citizens. that's the way it is. this voting card is probably my congressional voting card. we would assume that. that's it. what role are they playing do you feel he had a right and that's what the case would be

and lastly, what are they doing to protect the right to voet. that's a sad state of affairs. >> that's currently in litigation. typically the department's responsibility to represent federal agencies. we advise all of our agencies on the issues raised by the actions and with respect to this case, it's in litigations. i am not able to give you specifics on that. i think that there is a judge who will review whether or not there is a legal basis for certain actions. i will leave that here. it is one of the priorities to

enforce all of the laws that protect the rights of everyone to vote. preclearance is no longer an option. that's irregularity or issues with starting investigations and working there. this is also an important issue in the field with respect to the u.s. attorney committee also. they are very concerned at the local level as to whether or not there would be any irregularities with voting and are focused on that. that's for all americans and making sure they are free and

open away. that's to answer the questions and we still do that and we will consult with them and had positive dialogue on specific issues about the best way to ensure the right to vote and we will litigate and let a court decide. we feel that the right to vote has been in a way that is inconsistent with the values that this country wishes and every american gets to participate. we will bring those as well. >> in the time i have left, we will comment on that whether it's true or not that they will be there with the justice department and they asked for a stay on this issue of the commission.

>> the pleadings are filed and they did ask for an injunction. >> thank you so much. >> i appreciate you focusing on making sure the american has the right to vote and that means eligible. i appreciate that and you will defend as the department has, federal agencies and you will be defending the commission. that provides a road map on how to feel trust and reduce crime and make sure everyone is safe. i know that the task force made several recommendations specific

to the lgbt community and making sure everyone is safe. i was hoping you can give an update on how that is coming and getting them adopted nationwide. >> this is an important area. it is essentially an area in which our most vulnerable citizens felt that protection did not extend to them and they were reluctant to seek protection because of a view they wouldn't receive it. when i talked to law enforcement, they don't want anyone feeling you can't call in an officer for help. we have tried to provide guidance and we tried to provide training on how to deal with

those and tried to provide individuals who present issues and they need to recognize the issues that come from that and one of the things we have done is in an earlier response, that's guidance on sexual assault and domestic violence. this focused on identifying and preventing gender bias and law enforcement's response. we consulted closely with state and local law enforcement and both of the experiences and the questions they had. that came out in december and it does recommend practices that will help the agencies develop best practices to respond and the people view of this violence against women or sometimes men,

but also the lgbt community and to recognize those symptoms and to be able to respond to those individuals. the guidance also seeks to make sure we have ways to connect law enforcement with a very, very important part of the community when it comes to all types of domestic violence. the nongovernmental department for victims of sexual violence. >> with the time i have left, i represent a large navy base and more military veterans from almost everyone in the place and feel luck be that. a surprising number of instances where service members and around housing or employment

discrimination. i know it dealing with those issues. i want to get with the proper v in this report. what sort of demand you are seeing for those services and the ability of that division to meet that demand. well, i will say that i certainly agree with you in the fact that i think we owe our veterans the greatest support. when they return home. be it an issue of health or services or the all important right to vote when they are also stationed overseas is one of the things that we do in the civil rights division is have a very active practice in making sure that service members who are stationed overseas have the information they need to know how to vote and that they -- that particular right is not infringed through a logistical problem or some other issue. we enforce the federal laws that help them also return to their work force.

when they come home from military duty. we have seen a number of disturbing cases that involve financial exploitation of our service members. both when they are coming back and trying to seek housing and also while they are on active duty of service members and of their families. we have seen some unfortunate instances where that type of fraud is growing. that's a matter of grave concern to me as well. also, we also have issues, of course, with many of our service members returning injured. some of the injuries are visible. some of them are not visible. but it presents them with a business ability that gives them needs in terms of housing and employment and so we take very seriously our responsibility to defend their right to those reasonable accommodations as well. currently, the 2017 budget includes $4.1 million in resources which is going to plus up the service members' civil rights cases work by a little over $580,000. we also have a service members

initiative at the department of justice that's led by my outstanding associate attorney general. and it really has been instrumental in making sure that we at the department look at all of the issues that our service members present and make sure that whether it's not just civil rights but other areas also. i mention the fraud cases growing. criminal division is cognizant of the issues as well. so we're trying to look at all the issues presented by our service members and be responsive. >> thanks. we would love to follow up with you on that. thank you, chairman. >> mr. kilmer. thank you, attorney general lynch, i want to thank you for your service to the country and keeping us all safe and for your cooperative relationship with this committee, it's deeply appreciated in ensuring that americans can sleep soundly at night knowing that the department of justice and their local and state law enforcement officers are working together to protect themselves and their families. thank you very much and the hearing is adjourned. >> thank you, sir. thank you.

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