you see the sun come through the opening. get out that way. crawl, as quickly as possible. by the time i came out of the building, it was on fire. that meant about 30 other girls who were with me in the same place were burned to death. but, two other girls managed to come up. three of us looked around. although that happened in the morning, it was very dark, twilight. i started seeing some moving dark object approaching me. they happened to be the streams of human beings slowly shuffling from the center part of the city to where i was. they didn't look like human beings. their hair was standing straight

up, burned black, bleeding. parts of the bodies were missing. the skin and flesh were hanging from the bones. and some carrying their own eyeballs, hanging from the eye socket. and they collapsed on to the ground, their stomach burst and their intestine stretching out. you girls escape to the nihearb hill. that's what we did, by stepping over the dead bodies, injured bodies. it was a strange situation. nobody was running and screaming for help. they just didn't have that kind

of strength left. simply whispering. everybody was asking for water. we girls were relatively lightly injured. by the time we got to the hillside, we went to the nearby stream and washed off the blood and dirt and we took off the gloves and soaked them in the stream and dashed back and put them to hold them over the mouth of the dying people. you see, the place we escaped to had the military training ground, huge place, about the size of two football fields. the place was packed with dead and dying people. we wanted to help but everybody

wanted the water. no buckets to carry the water. that's why we resorted to the rather primitive way of the rescue operation. it was all we could do. i looked around and see if there were any doctors and nurses. i saw none of them in that huge place. that meant tens of thousands of people in that place without medication. no medical attention, medication, ointment, nothing was provided for them. just few drops of water. that was a level of so-called rescue operation. now, we kept ourselves busy all day doing that. of course, all the doctors and

nurses were killed, too. just a small percentage of the medical professionals survived, but they were serving people somewhere else, not where i was. so, when the darkness fell, with three girls together with hundreds of other people who escaped to the place, we just sat on the hillside. and all night, we watched the entire city burn. feeling numb from the massive scale of death and suffering we witnessed. i was not responding appropriately, emotionally. something happened to my psyche. they talk about psychic closing or psychic numbing.

in an ultimate situation like that, the emotion takes place. you think i'm glad of that explanation because if we responded emotionally to every horrific sight i witnessed, i couldn't have survived. that's the end of that very day. other people can tell about being near the rivers and the rivers full of floating dead bodies and so on but i didn't see the river that day. but, i will tell you about the few people in my family, my friends how they lost their lives. that will give you just how the

bomb affected human beings. i talked about three girls who were with me, but the rest of the students were at the city center. the city was trying to establish the filings to be prepared for the raid. so, all the grade seven and grade eight students from all the high schools were recruited, brought to the center of the city and they were providing the manual labor. now, they were in the center, right below the detonation of the bomb. so, they are the ones who simply vaporized, melted and carbonized. my sister-in-law was there with a student. she was one of the teachers

supervising the students. we tried to locate her corpse, but we have never done so. on paper she is still missing. but, together, with thousands of other students. oh, i understand, there were several thousand students, 8,000 or so. simply disappeared from the face of the earth. the temperature of the heat, i understand, was about 4,000 degrees celsius. another story i can tell is about my sister and her 4-year-old child who came back to the city the night before to visit us. during the morning, they were

walking over the bridge to the medical clinic and both of them were burned beyond recognition. by the time i saw them the next day, their bodies were swollen twice or three times larger than normal and they kept begging for water. when they died, the soldier dug up the hole and threw the body, poured the gasoline, threw the lighted match and they kept turning the body. the brain is not quite burned yet. there i was, a 13-year-old girl standing emotionlessly just watching it. that memory troubled me for many years. what kind of human being am i? my dear sister being treated

like animal or insect or whatever. there was no human dignity associated with that kind of cremati cremation. the fact that i didn't even shed tears troubled me for many years. i felt guilty. later years, when i went to the university, i studied learning how human beings behave. the doctor's death and life, was a big help. i could forgive myself after learning how our psyche automatically functions in a situation like that. you know, it's the image of this 4-year-old child. it's always there. that image just guide me and it's the driving force for my --

because he came to present all the innocent children of the world without understanding what was happening to them. so, he is a special being. special memory. if he is alive, he is 75 today. it's a shocking thought. regardless of passage of time, he is still a 4-year-old child guiding me. it was interesting, mr. obama made a lot of reference about innocent children, how we need to protect each one of them. and i was weeping, i couldn't help it. now, let me tell you another

example of how atomic bomb affected human beings. we rejoice to hear my favorite uncle and aunt survived. they are okay. they didn't have any visible sign of injury. then, several days later, we started hearing different story. they got sick, very sick. so, after my sister and my nephew died, my parents went over to my uncle's place, started looking after them. their body started showing purple spots all over the body. according to my mother, who cared for them until their death, their internal organs seemed to be rotting, d

dissolving, coming out as a thick, black liquid until death. the entire inners from their bodies came out. my mother used every material, newspaper, everything to use as a diaper. but, that was one way of time. radiation worked in many mysterious and random ways. some people were killed immediately, some a week later, a month later, a year later. and the horrible thing is, 71 years later, people are still dying from the effect of the radiation. now, the struggle.

survivors struggle was unexplainable in the aftermath, you know? surviving in unprecedent ed -- and the unprecedented social, political chaos due to japan's defeat and occupation forces, strict control over us. if i start giving the detailed story of that, that will take the whole morning, so maybe i'll stop. but struggle in the aftermath was very difficult.

now, i finished university in japan and upon my graduation, i was offered a scholarship, so i came to your country. i came to virginia, very close to this city. and that was 1954. united states tested the biggest hydrogen bomb in the south pacific that time and creating the kind of situation that hiroshima experienced. the entire japan was up in arms with fury. not only hiroshima and nagasaki, now the pacific.

well, united states continued with the testing and actually using them. that's when entire japan became truly aware of the nature of nuclear weapon development. anyway, at that time, i left japan. arrived in virginia in august and i was interviewed by the press. i gave my honest opinion. i was fresh out of college and naive, i believed in honesty and told what i thought. the united states nuclear policy was bad, they have to stop. look at all the killings and damage to the environment in the pacific, that has to stop and all these kind of things. next day, i started receiving hate letter. how dare you! what you are? who is giving the scholarship. go home. go back to japan.

a few days after my arrival, i encountered this situation. i was horrified. it was quite a traumatic experience. what am i going to do? i can't -- i just arrived, i can't go back. i can't put the zipper over my mouth and pretend i never know anything about hiroshima bombing. would i be able to survive in north america? well, i spent a week without going to the classroom. i just had to be alone and do my soul searching. it was a painful and lonely time. a new country, i hardly knew anybody. then this question i faced. but, i'm happy to say that i came out of that trauma more

determined and a stronger conviction. if i don't speak up, who will? i actually experienced it. it's my moral responsibility to share my experience, to warn the world. this is just the beginning of the nuclear arms. i just have to warn the world. so, that was the beginning. all right. i'm reminded of my time. well, i think i explained briefly why i have been doing what i have been doing. so, most of my life, adult life, i have been speaking to high

schools, universities, women's groups, clubs, anywhere people want to learn what it means to live in nuclear age from my very perspective. i know the government say one thing, but this is what i feel because i experienced it. i felt it was important. i'm suggested i am to stop. so -- [ applause ] >> thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you very much setsuko. it's extremely moving to hear these stories from hiroshima and

nagasaki. south pacific islanders and victims, many, many, many we know that all can relate to this because they have suffered and continue to suffer all the health illnesses from radiation poisoning all over the world. i'll open it up for questions now. i think i'll pose the first question, i think, to setsuko to get the ball rolling. we have about 25 minutes, i think, to continue discussion. but, first of all, setsuko, give us a sense of how you then came from virginia where i'm so glad you were determined to speak truth. how did you come from virginia to toronto, canada?

>> in hiroshima, then got the similarship to come to virginia. now, that school gave me full scholarship. by that time, i have some sort of idea i wanted to become a social worker because in that chaotic situation everybody needed a help and my church minister dedicated his life in supporting those people. i wanted to become a helping person, somebody who can help and contribute to society, to build up the city. and for that, i needed the social work professional trainer. japan's social work training in japan at that time was not quite well established. so, i came here to study, directly from japan. >> to the united states or

canada? >> united states. then i went to university of toronto and did further study. then i went back to japan and practiced social work and taught social work. then '62, my family, i got married, had two children by that time. so, we all came back to toronto in '62. ever since i have been a permanent resident of canada. and i have done social work all my life. peace work at the same time. >> absolutely. i give you all the credit for sticking with it this long, this many years. it's very, very important that you do. no one, practically no one has experien experienced that survived those bombings a real nuclear weapons explosion. it's not usual for people to really understand what nuclear weapons are all about. with that, let me turn to the

audience. i know there are many, many questions. i have many more questions i could pose. i think i would rather turn to you and give you the opportunity to ask questions. ril right here at the front table. please introduce yourself. because we are on c-span, too, wait for the microphone. >> alex. i was wondering what people thought had happened? obviously japan had experienced normal bombing from non-nuclear weapons. here is something that is one explosion. did people understand? obviously they didn't know it was a nuclear weapon. what did they think had happened when the blast came? >> well, my immediate reaction was finally, americans got us. well, nobody knew about the new type of weapon.

so, we thought this insindary bomb. the united states started indiscriminate attack of major cities. by the time we were about 70% of the urban urban centers in japan was all leveled. and starting with tokyo i think in one night over 100,000 people were killed. i think hundreds of b-29 flew over them and thousands of tons of incendiary bombs in hiroshima only one did the trick and most of the city disappeared. but no, we have no idea. it took some time before we knew clearly what it was. the government reported new type of bomb was used. that's all we knew.

>> yes. right in the middle. >> i'm from italy. it would be many, many questions to ask, but i'll just stick to maybe one. first of all, you said that it was -- you started your presentation negating that it was a miracle that you are alive. i think that all of us around here after all we are alive and it is a miracle since there were so many occasions where we were almost on the border of a nuclear war. therefore, it is a common situation. but since you are -- category which unfortunately would inevitably disappear, i think what is very important is to

maintain the momentum of awareness of the international public opinion on that. and i think that one of the major events was president obama's visit to hiroshima. how do you want be -- what is the best way to perpetuate the testimony and the awareness and the education of people in your view to maintain the momentum of awareness? thank you. >> you mention mr. obama, president obama's visit to hiroshima. and that brought 600 reporters

to the city, and i think all around the world that was reported. well, he has that kind of power, influence. even i in toronto on that day i had eight interviews. can you imagine? eight tv stations coming to my place asking what i thought about it. wow! what power president have. well, maybe he can do something like this, create the opportunity so he can mobilize but not just him but all of us who know something about the iss issue. i think we can intensify our efforts to make this issue credible and visible. i don't think we are doing enough. and i think -- i don't feel that the government is encouraging the people to learn what it's

like to live in the nuclear age. government isn't. whatever they may think the ministry or department of education area, they should be doing better job. but i know in japan and in canada and some of the united states, i don't think school system is doing a good job either. i think more budget could be directed to those educational institutions and intensify the teaching. and of course the churches and the families, homes. the children's parents grew up without knowing about it so they are hesitant. they avoid children questioning the parents. and the children learn not to

raise such questions because parents are horrified when they raise such questions. rather sad symbiotic relationship. but anyway, everybody, education system, religious system, even government -- i shouldn't say even government. the government can look at the reality and improve the situation. now, about the survivors as you say the number is dwindling. they have been leaving us with their dream of abolition in their lifetime unfulfilled. it's very sad. well, i really take my hat off for the way they have dedicated their lives traveling near and

far. but we at the same time very disappointed. don't quite feel rewarded. the public attention to us is limited and when i first came to the united states people kept justifying hiroshima the use of the bombs. i'm afraid to say even today majority of people maintain that mentality. so that's limited progress we made in the knowledge. i hope i'm wrong. i like to hear other people's opinion on this. >> yes. right here.

then i'll come over here. then i'll go in the back. >> i know that you spoke at the vienna conference on the humanitarian impacts of nuclear weapons and you were recently at the open-ended working group in geneva on the elimination of nuclear weapons, the ban and stigmatization. i'd like you to speak a laittle bit about the humanitarian initiative in relation to the npt. >> well, i have been working on the issue of nuclear disarmament for many years. but for a loong time i felt that so much work was being done, i mean, people put so much

emphasis on weapon system and the theory of deterrence and they believe it and all the associated topics. even i went to the peace meetings. they were spending time to discuss, to catch up with government progress in that line. and i used to feel, my gosh, me when we talk about the nuclear weapon it's what those things did to humanity, what happened to their lives, to their cities. but somehow that kind of attention was lacking. so several years ago when i started hearing about humanitarian impact of nuclear weapon i thought, wiow, it's about time we should be looking

at this. this is the real basic issue of importance. of course that doesn't ne gate the importance of security issues and some people criticize this movement. i could -- i was delighted to see the strong sentiment on the topic around the world and not only white-haired people but the younger people.

hey, when grwe grow up we want r world to be intact, to be there for us to enjoy life. and they are very keenly awake to push this idea. so i was very pleased and i am part of this movement, and another thing which mrplease me was -- work toward disarmament under article 6, but they haven't. they weren't fulfilling that obligation and not much was happening. it was a huge disappointment when i learned it's been in existence 45 years.

what has it produced? and majority of non-nuclear weapon states said, what we have waited for nuclear weapon states to take the lead and work on the disarmament we are not going to win anymore. we are going to stand up and join our hands together and work with ngos and civil society. now red cross representing civil socie society, ngos and 127 i think non-nuclear weapons to work for prohibition and elimination of nuclear weapons by createing legally binding instrument. to me, those majority of

nonnuclear weapon states so impatient with the lack of progress by the conference of disarmament and non -- treaty and so on, and they want to -- okay, if things are not happening there, we have to see what we can do. standing up those so-called weaker nation but coming to the in number and putting heads together and working out the most effective measures to achieve elimination, prohibition and so on. i think it seems now the entire world is wake up and they are ready to work.

i think this is great. leave leaving the fate of the world just to the nine -- well, five nuclear weapon states recognized by the united nations and additional four nuclear weapon states. nine states want to keep what they have and not to use their obligation that is to -- well, it seems the whole world is waking up to the shared -- to realize the shared responsibility and a lot of young people involved in this movement that is very good news for me. we can -- we have people to work with and some good ideas are

coming out. would you like to say a few words -- well, you people know all about that. >> this is a group of experts, but some of you us know a little more, some a little less in different areas so it's just wonderful to hear your impressions. which are very special i think and extremely important today because we don't hear from -- all that much actually even in washington, d.c., let alone in area pan i assujapan, i assume. it's very very good and with weave made progress do date largely because of people like yourself and yourself and your colleagues who have made a stand and are, as i say, speaking truth to power on the humanitarian impact of nuclear weapons. i would point out, too, i think it's 126 countries have signed the humanitarian pledge. 1 twech n 127 now. good. i stand corrected there.

okay we have a couple more questions and i think we'll try to keep the questions brief and we'll try to get through everybody. yes? >> thank you, paul. i'm martin fleck. i work with physicians for social responsibility. that mean iz work with our mutual friend dr. ira who send his greetings and actually you just answered a lot of my question. physicians for social respondent is working with the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons to promote the prohibition and elimination of nuclear weapons. and i agree with you about the new momentum that's happening. but there's a lot of skepticism here in the united states about the prohibition treaty because none of the nuclear weapon states have -- they're pretty much all opposing it. none of them have supported it

and none of the so-called umbrella state that's are under the nuclear umbrella have supported it. so ms. thurlow, are you optimistic that we will still achieve such a treaty despite all this opposition? >> i know there seem to be several different approaches in achieving prohibition and elimination. but as one new york-based lawyer said, i think he's the head of lawyers for something -- as he says, those differences of emphasis, approaches can be be

worked out. so whether it's a nuclear weapon convention or ban treaty, i think a bit of difference can be worked out. let's first prohibit, let's stop the threat and the use of the nuclear weapon. and surely we can, we can achieve it. why not? we should seize this opportunity. i think the time is now. i have waited 71 years. if we don't seize this opportunity, and i know mr. obama talks about maybe this won't happen in my lifetime, he repeated it once in prague and this time in hiroshima. but why? why not? if there is a strong political will, it could happen. it can happen. so, yes, i still am hopeful and i believe it can happen because

enough people, not enough bi-you but a lot of people are pushing for it. and if we can get other people joining in the effort and keep pushing, why not? and why don't we communicate our strong feeling to mr. president? even before he leaves the office. we can't afford to wait generation and generation. 71 years is much too long to wait. we wasted. i believe we can and we should. >> let's take another couple questions quickly. somebody in the back with their hand up. yes, right here with the

glasses. >> i'm yaij robinson with women's action for new directions. mostly i really want to say thank you so much for being here and thank you for all of the work that you've done and continue to do. it was phenomenal and amazing that the president went to hiroshima but the reality is that this president with the complicity of the entire u.s. government and the congress is aiming at spending a trillion dollars over the next 30 years for the next generation of nuclear weapons. we seem to find a lot more money for the next generation of nuclear weapons and not so much for the next generation of humans in this country. and i wonder if you could just comment on that and how these budget priorities are really

driving a dangerous future. >> i share your profound sense of sadness and even anger if somebody get me the invitation to speak with the president, that's one of the first thing i would talk about. yes. well, that's great. that's great. really i don't know what more to say. i just feel very disturbed by that. and yet when he turns around he says beautiful things. i was wishing this time in

hiroshima he would -- oh, no. >> you'll pass on that. >> i don't know what more to say really. you know, i have been a social worker all my life. i work in schools dosh s do the counseling for the family, learning disability of the children and so on. those cool schools are falling. they don't have enough budget to buy necessary supplies. why can't we directing your taxpayers money to the hospital and schools to enrich people's day to day life instead of a trillion dollars is going to produce the wicked weapon. i don't even call it a weapon. it's a device of mass murder.

well, somehow we have to ask the president to deprioritize the sense of responsibility. i don't know what else to say. it's just a crime depriving humanity in order to have so-called security. and based on the false notion of security from my perspective i just cannot -- i'm sorry. maybe my response is not sufficient. but i just share your feeling of this anger. >> thank you. i think your response is very appropriate and i think we all deserve -- she deserves a round

of applause bringing us back to reality to some extent. >> once again so much for this. it means a lot to me. next time i go to japan i'll take it with me and share it with the members of survivors organization. thank you for your support and recognition of some of the work we have done. >> thank you so much for joining this seam steemed group we have. we're very delighted and honored to be able to honor you. i also want to thank kathleen sullivan who i failed to introduce earlier who's been helping with the presentation. thank you, too, very much kathleen. appreciate it. there were several questioners still in the audience. i'm sorry we didn't get to your

questions b questions but get to know her better. with that, i will turn the program back over to our esteemed direct oor darrel kimball. friday on c-span3 live coverage of the faith and freedom conference in washington, d.c. donald trump is scheduled to speak at the meeting of conservative activists along with members of congress including senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. watch our live coverage starting at 9:00 a.m. eastern. c-span's "washington journal" live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up friday morning we are devoting the first hour of the program to the life and legacy of muhammad ali. then with the release of the bipartisan policy commission report on retirement security

earlier this week, the co-chairs of that commission former senator kent conrad of north dakota and former deputy commissioner for the social security administration james lockhart talk about the commission's findings, the obstacles to workers' financial security and ways to enhance and secure retirement and personal savings. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal" beginning live at 7:00 a.m. eastern friday morning. join the discussion. at this year's internet and television expo, attendees heard from former fcc chair michael powell, huffington post founder aryan na huffington, cnn reporter john king and comcast ceo brian roberts. they discussed how new technology and internet streaming will change television. this part of the conference is an hour and 15 minutes. >> good morning, everyone.

welcome to boston and to intx 2016. on behalf of ncta, we're happy to greet you, start off this morning's sessions and tee up what i think is going to be a great show. >> absolutely, pat. delighted to be here as well. it's exciting to be at the second ever intx. this year we're going to take a look at disruption and how really to embrace it, if you will, for creativity and innovation. should be exciting. >> should be. when you look at webster, it tells us that disruption is to break apart or to throw into disorder. but in our business it's so much more. it's change. it's opportunity. it's growth. and it's the state of our world today. >> at intx this week, as i said, we're going to take a look at the many elements of disruption that are really fueling our

businesses these days. we're going to celebrate and embrace those changes and we're toing to look for ways to actually harness them, if you will, to better serve consumers and to help our collective businesses grow. >> that's right, ken. in fact, the spirit of this proposition you could say we've disrupted intx. it's no longer just the cable show. >> right. >> we'll get to hear from groundbreaking companies such as pair scope, mashable, fan duel, and a number of companies making their first ever appearance on our stage. this year that includes at&t and verizon. >> we're going to make history this week, truly are, with a ted session presented by intx on the theme of what else but disruption. and our friends at recode have brought some general session speakers to provide great insights into the future of our businesses.

meanwhile, boston's best entrepreneurs will pitch their ideas in the lobstah tank demonstration, if i may so use my boston accent. >> that was very good, ken. i liked that. don't worry about that. the best of intx and cable shows past will still inform you of the experience you're about to have. we'll enjoy stimulating encounters on the imagine park stage and we'll see showcases featuring interactive experiences with things like virtual reality, the hottest in display technology, and a revolution that we built called tv everywhere. we have this teeming marketplace exhibit floor featuring hundreds of companies showing off their latest wares and services. and ken don't forget the star-studded events sich as the cable center hall of fame dinner, the signature lunch that followses sessions this morning and the annual breakfast.

>> that's right. speaking of stars, pat, it wouldn't be be intx without some stars, some showstoppersor, right? >> right. >> we'll get to meet many of them this week, including actor producer levar burton, author and entrepreneur aur yawn na hifg ton and some people who really bring the world right into our living rooms like john king and jorge ramos and fcc chairman tom wheeler. >> you know, ken and i have had a blast putting intx together for you and we're deeply indebted to the members of the intx advisory board for helping us realize our vision. >> you know, when pat and i started down this path when we agree heed to co-chair, we wanted intx this year to be really fast paced and electric, to be fun, casual, relaxed, no ties. >> but there is a hanky. >> there's a hanky, okay.

with the opportunity for all of us to compare notes an really get a glimpse into the future that we're all creating together. it's going to be an exciting week. >> we do hope what you experience this week is exactly as ken just described it here in boston. and we look forward to chatting with many of you during the next three days. >> absolutely. listen, have a great time. get some great boston food. i'll meet you later at the food truck. enjoy intx here in boston, everybody. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the president and ceo of ncta michael powell. >> good morning and welcome to intx 2016 in the great city of boston. now, i have to say this is the first time we have ever had an

open stage on the show floor like this. i think it's very emblem attic of the wall that's are coming down in our industry. the company that's are gathered here are in a transform atif period that presents significant challenges as well as enormous opportunities. there are many currents of change shaping the convict toto the this dizzying period. mrapz the most dramatic is the market restructuring that's reached its zenith over the last several weeks. the intensifying dmandzs of technology and escalating need for innovation. you our industry is shifting into high gear as a high-tech industry with more products and services. these actions are also a response to the rising heat of competition sparking from old sources as well as new.

we fully expect this remodeling to bring new energy and vibrancy to the internet and television marketplace. you know, mergers however are always bittersweet. the curtain is coming down on some of the most storied companies in our history. and as a consequence, we will have to bid farewell to exceptional leaders who pioneered this industry and led it to the high pin akell on which it sits today. leaders like rob marcus and jerry kent and the beloved minor and doland families. but we should not forget that it takes a strong crew to sail any ship so we must give a salute to the thousands of women and men who have served these companies faithfully over the years. we also, however, get to welcome new players into our community. charter is emerging as a reinvigorating company and becomes a new industry standard

bearer and all tease has crossed the pond to bring its insights and its energy to the u.s. cable market. we look excitedly forward to the fresh ideas and innovation that these changes will bring. you know, it seems that the whole world has discovered what we have known for decades, and that is that delivering exciting, high-quality video content to american consumers is a fantastic business to be in. but there are formable new creatures roaming our traditional feeding grounds these companies have enormous resources and are exceptionally creative. they are fierce competitors that have cut their teeth on disrupting traditional businesses. those who wish to compete will have to elevate their heels and adjust if they hope to return serve forcefully. you now, i believe in duality, that every challenge is also an

opportunity. if we are bold and nimble enough, we will not only survive, we will thrive. revolutionary change has also engulfed the content business. fantastic new shows are exploding continuously into our living rooms. last year over 409 scripted series were produced. there are more and more players searching out great stories and producing original content. today it's ironic that a company known more for selling books is taking home emmy awards for television. but viewing patterns are also driving change. consumers now see every screen as a television. binge watching has become widely addictive. and more and more we see video content being encapsulated into software apps that turn every device imaginable into a tv screen. that can work perfectly well

without a set top box. these are changes that we fully embrace. now, as i said earlier, this industry is a driving force in technology as well. cable's internet providers are on the cusp of -- as we do, we will remain dedicated to reaching all not just some of our citizens and dedicated to getting every american online. in addition, we are also seeing smarter devices for viewing content like the x-1 platform and our companies are increasing the scrawl of a broadband prescription by deploying wi-fi hot spots for consumers to access the internet when they're on the go. and working with the content community, your favorite programs are landing onto any internet connected device through the tv everywhere

initiative. this period is remarkable for one other reason that is not so laudable. we find ourselves the target of a relentless regulatory assault. the fcc is governing mantra has been competition competition competition. but from where we sit that incantation has come to mean one thing. regulation regulation regulation. the policy blows we are weathering are not modest regulatory corrections. they have been thundering tectonic shifts that have crumbled decades of settled law and policy. what has been so distressing is that much of this regulatory ordinance has been launched without provocation. we increasingly are saddled with heavy rules without any compelling evidence of harm to consumers or to competitors. other times we find our property being confiscated and passed off to new competitors to give them

a leg up despite healthy and robust markets. this is the case with the current proposal to unbundle valuable content and hand it to companies who don't have to pay for it respect the intellectual property rights of it or abide by the regulatory protections of consumers. instead of unlocking the box, this proposal has unlocked fierce opposition from all quarters, from distributorsor, content providers, civil rights groups, labor unions and over 150 members of congress. we can only hope the commission will hear their voices. and as we learned recently, the latest proposal to completely throw out decades of policies on business services, even when we are the new competitive interest, we seem to be marked for rate regulation. what i believe is most troubling is an emerging government view that the communication market is

bifurcated and should be regulated differently. internet companies are nurtured and allowed to roam free, but network providers are disparagingly labeled gate keepers that should be shackled. the implications of this world view go far beyond how it affects one industry. we are resilient, and we will find a way to weather these changes. rather, i believe this jaundice view will prove detrimental to america's ambitions in the information age. networks must continue to innovate, experiment and thrive in order to fuel the internet growth we all want to see. i think it's a mistake to view network providers as an impediment to that growth rather than a valued ingredient of it. [ applause ] we think there's a better way. the approach that is on display here at intx we see a

marketplace big enough for all competitors. we see there is more to be gained by coming together than pulling apart. we are looking for partners and not adversaries. and we see the benefit of a global network combining the power of content and technology to deliver exceptional experiences, to solve the greatest problems of our planet, to provide meaningful work for our people, and to bring greater peace and prosperity to a dangerous world. intx this year is about the opportunities that rise from disruption. there's much to see and much to talk about in the world of internet and television. and this show is the central square for that exploration to take place. so on behalf of the women and men of ncta, i want to wish you an exciting and informative show. thank you very much.

>> ladies and gentlemen, to host our first conversation today, please welcome the executive editor at recode, kara swisher. >> hi, everyone. so we wanted to have someone really interesting especially in this crazy election year to talk about a wide variety of things from elections to video to uber to not getting enough sleep. so there's only one person who fits all those criteria, and that is someone i've known for a very long time and someone

everyone does know, ariana huffington. okay, we brought our chairs for you, our special red chairs. so a couple of things. we're going to start talking ail little bit about your book which you were signing books and you're going to sign afterwards. >> yes. >> it aecalled "the sleep revolution." ariana and i have debated this for years. i don't sleep at all and she thinks sleep is very important. i want you to make the case you're making in this book. >> it's really not what i think it's a universal scientific consensus that the vast majority of us, kara swisher exempted because she has a genetic mutati mutation, there's 1% of the population that has a genetic mutation and they can do great on four or five hours. but the rest of us need seven to nine hours to perform at our best. and look at athletes now. andre iguodala from the golden

state warriors, kobe bryant, lebron james, they all talk about using sleep as a performance enhancement tool. so that's the big shift that's happening now. it's a little bit like small king. remember was a time when we thought smoking was glamorous and there was a time when he we thought being sleep deprived was glamorous and a sign of being so busy and important and especially men would wear it like a badge of honor. now we realize it actually makes us less productive, less healthy, and much less happy. >> so let's talk about it in the context of tech because one of the things that you talk about is the more and more we're with screens, we're watching tv, we're watching video all the time, we're watching on our phones, we're using them for a variety of things, streaming everything, when one of the things you talk about is that it's affected people's sleep patterns. talk about that a little bit. >> absolutely because we are all addicted to our phones.

in fact, i would say that everybody here probably takes better care of their smartphones than they take care of themselves. like everybody here knows approximately how much battery remains on their phone and in had my case if it gets below 13% i get anxious and look around for a recharging shrine, lest anything would happen to my phone. >> let me just say the phone is my best relationship i've ever had in my life. >> and that's perfect. all i'm suggesting is that you pick a time before you turn off the lights and you turn off your phone, your ipad, your laptop and gently escort them out of your bedroom, kara. you can't sleep with your phone. that's all i'm saying. i love my phone. but it's like kryptonite if it's on your nightstand. once you remove it out of your bedroom, you begin to create a transition to sleep, which is what is missing from people's lives. that's why so many people i was doing a book signing earlier and people were complaining they

wake up in the middle of the night and they can't go back to sleep. because they haven't had that transition. i mean, you have children. you know when your children are babies you don't just drop them in bed. you have a little ritual. so we need to create our own ritual that puts a big demarcation line between our day with all our projects, our incompletions, our worries, and our night when we can recharge and face the day, you know, really ready to deal with everything. >> you've been part of the internet revolution, though, a big part of it that's gotten people more addicted to these more screens. you've been doing video stuff. you've been doing all kinds -- everything. all social media. how do you get -- is it hard to say create that and then tell people to turn it off? >> well, even if the huffington post did not exist, people would have plenty of other things to be addicted to. the problem is that the world is going to be more and more inundated with technology.

the fourth industrial revolution is all about greater levels of automation. so it's up to us to set the bou boundaries. we want to do that with our children. you don't want your children to be so completely addicted to their devices they can't have human relationships and develop empathy and intuition. >> actually, my son had his first girlfriend he met her on snapchat. so i'm finished on that issue. but that is the trend going forward. let's talk a little bill about those trends and we'll get back to sleep because one of the parts you talk about is decision making when you're not sleeping. >> yes. in fact i was at the microsoft ceo summit and talking to jeff bees soes who says i need eight hours of sleep to be the best ceo i can be. and he he said that if i actually get eight hours of sleep, even if i end up making fewer decisions, if these decisions are even 5% better than they would have been if i was depleted and sleep deprived,

that's better for amazon. that's what executives need to understand. they're not paid for their stamina. they're paid for their judgment. >> right. >> and all around us we are surrounded by data and starved for wisdom. just look around at business leaders, media leaders, political leaders, they have high iqs, but look at the decisions they're making. another thing is that we've convinced people of the importance of exercise and nutrition, but the third pillar is sleep. and you have all these exhausted executives often collapsing on their treadmills like the ceo of united who ended up with a massive heart attack or the ceo of bmw. so we need to -- >> you yourself collapsed. >> yes. i start the book that way. i collapsed. that's how i became a sleep evangelist because i collapsed from sleep definiprivation and

burnout and from the collective delusion that burnout is the way to succeed. >> let's talk about where things are going in technology. then i do want to get to the election because you're a political person. where do you -- you guys have been trying a lot of things in tv, in video and everything else. how do you look at publishing right now and people who make video and other internet products? >> well, increasingly what's becoming clearer and clearerer is that we need differentiated content. you know, content that really touches people. and huff post we've divided things into three pillars obviously news and politics but with our own attitude. what's working. a focus on solutions. journalist has focused far too much just on the crisis, you know, they're saying if it bleeds it leads. we need to change that. and recognize that there are solutions to most problems but

they often have not scaled yet. so kind of how can we put the spotlight on them so -- you know, we talk about copycat crimes. we he can also have copycat solutions. that's our second pillar and our third pillar is all about adding value to people's lives by helping them lead their lives with less stress and more fulfillment. and that is having a huge resonance both for our viewers and our readers but also our advertisers. because a lot of people who are -- a lot of brands that want to be around the wellness theme have become some of our best customers in native advertising. >> so when you look at where things are going, you started with print and blogs really. you moved into video but back and forth you've had different challenges. >> video and mobile. >> right. and now what? talk about what happened with video with you. >> so video you know 3 1/2 years

ago we launched huff first wife. >> this was a web only ohm. >> this was really one of the first big live efforts. and now as more and more of our audience moved on -- live has become our facebook, periscope, different way to do live. while at the same time keeping the big huff post live experience for newsmaker events for live streaming cultural or political debates, et cetera. >> so do you not control video anymore? does facebook control video at this point? >> no, not at all. not at all. let me tell you two of our biggest theories. one of them is called talk to me and we'd love to invite everybody to participate. it's children interviewing their parents. it's been a huge success. it's sponsored by union i lever. and it exemplifies -- because it starts with a big beautifully

produced celebrity interviews like sam branson interviewing richard and barbara bush interviewing laura and mike bloomberg's daughter interviewing him, et cetera et cetera. and then we opened it up to thousands of our viewers and users to interview their own parents. and on father's day we're having a physical activation, for example, in new york city and we're also doing it in partnership with facebook live. >> so talk about where video is going, though. this is a whole room of cable people but people are not watching the way they used to. how do you look at -- you guys are moving into vr. you bought a vr company. talk a little bit about that, for example. >> so, you know, actually us buying the vr company is a very good way to explain where i think video is going. we bought it, but we didn't just about buy it because of the technological know-how around vr but because how they produce

stories. the gift of story telling and story telling in a way that has -- resonance. for me, again, whether you do it in a nap or you do it on cable, the key is are you connecting with your audience? are you adding value to people's lives? i think there's been far too much emphasis on the means as opposed to what are we actually offering the users. >> except if you're a cable company and consumers aren't using it. ma nellials in particular the no cable generation, whether that's true or not it's questionable. >> but if you have great content you can offer it to your users in multiple ways it's just a matter of the product. but ultimately if what you are producing is not differentiated, is not really adding value to people's lives, even if the value is simple great entertainment be, then whether you're doing it online or on cable is not going to work. >> do you think vr is going to

be as big as people think it's going to be? i don't and oddly enough i just had lunch with mark zuckerberg and he he thought it was a little overhyped right now. even though he bought the company and paid all that money. i think they think it maybe will take a while. you just bought a vr company. >> for you us, it was a great investment because as well as the vr technology, they're very aligned with us about empowering our users to connect with the stories. like the story we did about what's happening with refugees with susan sarandon taking us to greece, it was great that we had vr. but all the other elements came together. >> right. do you imagine people living in a vr universe or not? >> i think increasingly people really want to live in a vr universe. that's why it's going to become more and more important to disconnect from the vr universe. >> i know. i agree. i think it ace quite immersive although augmented reality to me is a bigger deal.

what else are you working on in video then we're going to talk about the election really quickly. >> in terms of big series, we launched another series that i'm really excited about called "talk nerdy to me." we find that people are more and more interested in science, but how do we make science approachable? so the first video we produced in this new series was really about the search for more inhabitable planets which is intensifying at the prospect of donald trump getting to the white house. and the next -- >> that's just the first of the donald trump jokes so just get ready. >> the next one is about the new findings around gravitational fields. you'd be amazed about the interest in terms of science, provided we can do it with humor and in an accessible way. that's what talk nerdy -- >> that's a web only show? you don't see yourself going to make a network television show

or a cable show. >> well, we are working on two shows with netflix. >> right. and why them over anybody else? >> well, it's just that i was talking to ted about a couple of the shows and he loved the idea of us doing a sleep documentary and working on a show with james costas and michael smith the first gay ambassador to spain and his partner who is a major designer he. and they've had this amazing experience in spain. so doing the -- netflix. we're open to working with anyone else. just let me know. ariana@huffington post.com. >> let's talk about the elections. we only have a few minutes left. what do you think is happening right now? because i think most people are just perplexed, confused and upset. >> i think what is happening is

really dangerous and i feel it's really important that those of us in the media do not treat this like a normal election with two candidates who disagree on issues. because donald trump is both a buffoon and dangerous at the same time and that's what is confusing. you know, he he's a little bit like kim jong-un. >> who? >> you know, the north korean -- the head of north korea. >> the north korean dictator. that guy. >> yes. i really think the way the huffington post has covered him exemplified that. first we covered him under enter taintment. >> was that a mistake? >> no. he is a reality show, a buffoon. but the day he proposed that we should ban 1.6 billion muslims from this country which is completely unamerican, we started covering him as a clear and present danger with an editor's note at the end of the story reminding people that he he's a birther, a sexist, a

racist, and that he regularly incites violence at his rallies xs you know, kara, he also exemplifies all the symptoms of chronic sleep deprivation. you know, including -- >> i like it. you're selling books and insulting political candidates. >> but it's the truth. the inability to process even simple information, mood swings, anger outbursts, false memories. remember the muslims, the thousands of muslims who supposedly cheered the collapse of the twin towers? except nobody ever has seen a video of that? all of these are examples of somebody who is unstable and therefore it is our responsibility in the media to do everything we can to stop him from getting to the white house. and when the "new york times" uses language to describe his racism over the weekend like a -- approach to ethnicity.

why can't you call racism racism? and when they have a big story about his treatment of women and their conclusion is that it's a complicated story. it's not complicated. so that's really where the media need to do their job. >> well, it's interesting because we talked about that. most media tries to be -- has treated this like an entertainment until now, giving enormous amounts of attention to the candidate because he he's interesting and he's great for ratings. and so you imagine that they should actually do something about it. >> i think that they should cover it in ways which are straightforward without mincing words and constantly reminding the public of who he is. constantly reminding the public of the fact that he wants to ban an entire religion from this country, that he incites violence at his rallies, and that he still believes that the president of the united states

was not born in this country, which is like believing that the earth is flat. it makes him an illegitimate candidate, and it is our job to say that day in and day out. >> so do you think journalism should change? >> no, i don't think journalism should change. i think journalism should stop treating him like somebody who's just good for ratings because that's what haes happening now. you know, we have cameras just covering an empty podium waiting for donald trump as though this is the biggest event at that moment. >> so last question, then we've got to go. so i'm assuming you're voting for hillary at this point. but when you look at this, how things have changed, how has tech and social media helped that? because to me he's the first twitter -- the real true twitter presidential candidate. no one uses the mediums like he does. he takes great advantage of them and uses them well. i mean, whatever you think of him, he he uses them

beautifully. >> i don't agree with that at all. i don't know why retweeting mussolini is a beautiful use of social media. >> okay, all right. i'm talking about his original ones. >> or making comments he has to retract like when he said that women with apportions need to be punished. we need to stop thinking that he's dog anything well just because he's winning. you know, the fact that he's winning simply means that the republican party has really fielded a group of candidates who could not stand up to him. but it doesn't mean that what he's doing is really the way to run a campaign. >> all right. so he needs more sleep. did you get him your book? >> he definitely needs more sleep, although i'd rather he doesn't get more sleep so that he makes more and more mistakes between now and the election. i'm going to make one exception to my get enough sleep rule. >> all right. last question, if you had to invent -- i ask this to everyone -- anything in tech or

in tv or video, anything else, what would it be? >> so i would love to invent something super simple which is a way to instantly turn our smartphone into a dumb phone smartphone into a dumbphone, that completely disconnects us from all notifications, from everything and reconnects us with ourselves. i think that's the biggest need right now and then whenever we are ready, we can turn it back into a smartphone again, like that. >> oh. >> like waving a magic wand. >> i think that's a great thing. i want a time machine, but otherwise, very good. thank you, arianna huffington. [ applause ] ♪

>> and now for our next conversation. please welcome the host, the president and co-chief executive officer at c-span, susan swain. and now her guests, chief national correspondent and anchor of "inside politics" for cnn, john king. and anchor and host of univision news and fusion, jorge ramos. >> good morning, everyone. nice to see you all here. i don't know if this is going to be a depressing bit of news, but there are 176 days left until the election. feel good about that? feels like it's been going on forever, doesn't it? >> counting? >> yes, i'm counting. so let me start with both of you because we're among friends this morning. when you're talking to friends

off duty, what are the adjectives that you use to describe the year that we've been through? >> i like that one. disruption. everything in our lives and in the business of the people who are here, think of the last 10, 15 years of your life. uncertainty, the change. where are we going to be tomorrow, what's going to work, what's not going to work? what has resisted that? the american political system. every major industry has changed. every minor industry has changed. all new industries are coming out and some of them succeeding and some of them are falling and american politics has resisted it and pushed it away. kind of like the american auto industry. when those little janz cars were coming in, saying that's cute but it's not going to work. when you resist change for so long, when it finally happens, it's volcanic. and that's what we have. >> reince priebus, the head of the gop, probably likes the second half of this motto, which is out of chaos, growth. >> maybe. >> hoping, right? jorge, what are your words? what do you use to describe it? >> well, i'm seeing two different things.

on one hand in our business i think technology is changing absolutely everything. on one hand. then also demography is changing the way we think about this country and the future. then honestly, as with everybody else, when people talk to you, they say, what do you think about donald trump? that's the truth. the fact is that donald trump, like it or not, has been the element that has changed this election. everybody's talking about him. and we have to take a very strong, i think, position when he's talking about women, when he's talking about muslims or latinos. i think those are the two most important things for me. technology and donald trump right now. >> while we're thinking about you and donald trump, people in this room will remember fairly famously august of last year, you were escorted out of a donald trump press conference because of pressing him on questions about immigration. so megyn kelly of fox also had a run-in with donald trump. they seem to have found some accord. she's getting a big interview.

what's your status with the campaign? >> i don't know. if he's listening, i'm ready to have an interview with donald trump. i know megyn kelly is going to have an interview with him tomorrow. >> right. >> and what happens with donald trump is that i know, and we know that all the things that he's been saying about latinos, that they're drug traffickers and criminals and rapists, that he's absolutely wrong. all the footage that i've seen, absolutely all the studies that i've seen suggests that immigrants are less likely to be k3ri7b8ds criminals. those are the facts. donald trump many times does not believe in facts. so what i did, when he announced on june 16th, i sent him a handwritten note. when was the last time you did something like that? >> yeah, a handwritten note to a candidate, it's been a while. >> anyway, i did it. >> good. >> i put my cell phone number on it and he published it on the internet. so i had to change my cell phone number.

then i went to dubuque, iowa, then i found a press conference where i thought not a lot of people were going to attend and then i confront him with the facts. i think that as a journalist, i think many times you have to take a stand. we might disagree on this, john, but i think when it comes to racism, discrimination, corruption, public lies, dictatorships and human rights, as a journalist you have to take a stand. >> in fact, jorge's got a new book out with that exact name, "take a stand." i should say, john, we should welcome you back to your hometown. dorchester native. >> just up the street. dorchester. when i was a kid this was pretty desolate part of the city. i work in a different slice of the business. our business is big and complicated and it's diverse. just had arianna huffington talking about her perspective. the 1st amendment belongs to all of us. and i think we all have different slices of that pie. and i'm in a more traditional -- cnn tries to be more of a traditional middle of the road objective journalism. but there's nothing wrong with the middle of the road. some people think it's boring. actually you can turn from the middle of the road and see

everything. and you have an advocacy position and you're transparent about it. and i think that's the key. be transparent. but in my side you don't have to say donald trump is wrong. if he's wrong on the statistics, show the statistics. so we can report in different ways about fair -- the values of just statistical fair facts and information. the challenges is we have to do it for all the candidates, not just for trump's positions but for everybody's positions. but i don't think we disagree that much. we have to have respect for everybody's different piece of the pie. >> if both of you had a chance to sit down with him tomorrow, what's the one question you really want to ask him? >> the first question is are you a racist? that's the first question. >> are you a racist? >> yeah. >> that's the first question. >> i had the great timing several years ago of having an interview with donald trump the morning they released the presidential's long form birth certificate and he threw it back at me famously and said i don't need to see your copy, i think it's a fraud. given what's happened in the last couple weeks where he's modified his positions or changed his positions on so many things, i think would just start

with the who are you, what makes you tick, what is the central core and philosophy if there is one of donald trump? >> also, let me just say, he said so many things against women. he said so many things against muslims and latinos and now are we just going to let him say that and then don't confront him with that? i don't think so. i think that's our position. i've been -- many journalists have the opportunity to talk to donald trump and i think they haven't been tough enough on him, and i think journalism, the most important social growth for journalists is to confront who are in power and prevent the abuse of those who are in power. our job is to be watchdogs of society. and with donald trump that has not been the case on many occasions. >> let's talk about hillary clinton. we still have -- this is one of the big surprises this election year, that the democrats are still at their primary process which makes a challenge for her which she has to continue to defend against bernie sanders. why is she having such a

difficult time closing the deal? >> the democrats have their own brand of this disruption. disruption is not unique to the republican party. the republican party has been searching for its identity, who are we? you can't pick who leads you until you decide, who are we, what are we? the republican party has been going through that since the george w. bush administration, after katrina, the iraq war disaffection. so essentially since 2006 the republican party's been trying to figure out who it is. the democratic party has had a president in the white house, and that usually keeps the genie in the bottle. the power of the president you keep the disagreements and disaffection in the party trapped in a bottle. and here they come out in this election campaign. bernie is more populist. bernie is pulling her to the left, whether it's health care, whether it's trade. if you look at the common denominator between trump and sanders it's tapping into economic anxiety, questions about where are we going, where are the jobs of the future? for all her strengths, and secretary clinton has many strengths, she's not a visceral feel your pain like her husband was politician on the economy. and sanders has tapped into this

and he's also tapped into disaffection on the left even with president obama. gitmo's still open. the black lives matter movement comes to fruition under the first african-american president. on the city street, in factory towns, there's a lot of anxiety and disaffection in the democratic party and it's bubbling up jus tlike on the republican side. she has not found a way yet to fully embrace it. i was going to say come to grips with it. the way you come to terms with it is you embrace it and learn from it. >> may i add, i think bernie sanders represents precisely what hillary clinton might be looking. when you talk -- i'm working with a lot of millennials, and it is very clear the numbers are there. most young people feel more comfortable with bernie sanders than with hillary clinton. and it's also a matter of trust. they trust him more than hillary clinton. so those are two of the challenges that she's going to be facing this november. >> for both candidates, how important will the vice presidential selection be? >> i'm not sure. i mean, you vote for the

presidential candidate, for the vice president candidate. now, when it comes to, for instance -- i doubt that if donald trump chooses a latino as a running mate that that's going to make a big change. we were talking about the taco bowl just -- first let me just say for the record, a taco bowl is not mexican food. and then he reminded me of the politicians 20 years ago, 30 years ago when they brought a mariachi band or put a sombrero and thought they were going to get latino votes. it doesn't work that way. george w. bush was the first u.s. president who thought that he spoke spanish and it just doesn't work that way. latinos want more than that. i saw the latest poll, you were very expert on this, 87% of latinos have a negative opinion of donald trump, 87%. so even if 13% of latinos were to vote for donald trump, it is simply not enough. to put it in perspective, john mccain got 31% of the hispanic vote.

he lost. romney got 27% of the hispanic vote and he lost. so the idea that donald trump can win with 13% of the hispanic vote is absolutely wrong. so that's the challenge. i think he cannot win with other without the hispanic vote and he's betting on the fact he might win with the white vote, and i doubt it. >> he's betting on the fact he can turn four states across the rust belt where you still have -- if you go to census.gov, you don't have to believe jorge ramos or john king or susan, go to census.gov. america's face is changing by the second. literally our electorate is becoming more and more diverse. if you do pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, get one more out there, somehow get florida, jorge makes a key point about the latino vote. very hard, donald trump says it's my second state, hard to see donald trump getting florida under these circumstances. if he can change four states across the rust belt and nothing else changed from obama/romney, trump can win the presidency. anyone who says he can't win is not paying attention to the data. but it's a really steep democratic hill. does he in the vice presidential pick try to deal with that?

i think jorge's exactly right. there's very little data or evidence in our history that that's why people vote for a president, by who they pick as a vice president. trump has demographic or identity challenges he might use that more to give a statement about who he is and how he thinks. quickly, at the beginning of this campaign, some people around hillary clinton thought she would win the nomination in a walk and maybe pick a republican to send a signal to the country that she wanted to unify the country. i think the strength of the sanders challenge has pushed that aside. she's now stuck in the democratic party. >> i want 15 more minutes. >> sure. >> and i have two. let me ask you as we close here, these folks are going to go home and say, i heard john king at intx, i heard jorge ramos at intx, he told me something back in may i remember about this election. what's it going to be? >> i would say watch the state of michigan. if donald trump wants to be the next president of the united states, he has to do what ronald reagan did in 1980, which was in mccomb county, michigan where you have auto factories create a whole generation of so-called reagan democrats. if trump can create trump

democrats and to do it's not just working-class people. he has to get into the millennial -- he has to reach into the bernie sanders people. if he is to win, it's possible he can win, it's a heavy lift, have to do it across there. if you want to study one laboratory, study macomb county, michigan, that area of the country. >> jorge? >> i would think of the year 2055. that year the white population in this country, non-hispanic, will become another minority. so that's a huge trend. with technology the other huge trend in this country, has to do with demography. so i think donald trump represents resistance to the change we're seeing right now in this country. and the other thing i would like you to remember is when the presidential debates are announced and you remember this going to be the most diverse election in our history. more than 31% of the voters will be a part of a minority. i think we're going to need a latino or a minority to be part of those debates.

of both debates. i'm not sure if it's going to be me, but we need -- >> why not? >> -- a latino in these debates. we thought that four years ago. >> well, we are just about out >> does the presidential commission have open ears? >> i open so. >> well, we are just about out of time. i want to say thank you, watch john king and his magic wall. nobody is spending more time analyzing individual congressional districts this year than you, and that's where the story is this year. >> fun to watch. >> he's the best professor of geography. knows every single county in the country. >> welcome to red sox nation. >> and thanks to jorge. find his new book "take a stand." thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> ladies and gentlemen, once every two years viewers around the world are riveted while the compelling competitions that are the olympics play out on our screens. intx 2016 is pleased to bring

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♪ >> all i can do is say thank you. thank you for the incredible moments. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the chairman and ceo of comcast corporation, brian roberts. >> good morning, everybody. i have to say, seeing that video, you get goose bumps every two years when you think about the olympics and what it means. the stories, the heroics, the heartbreaks and for us, this is such a prideful moment. bringing olympics to america. it's an honor and a

responsibility that we take very, very seriously and for comcast, nbc universal, this will be our third olympics. it will be the most sophisticated and technologically forward looking presentation we've ever done by a lot. it will be a technological marvel. there will be over 4,000 people bringing you this broadcast. we'll have many of them, most of those in rio, and many back at nbc sports in stamford, connecticut. so it made me think how much the world has changed. this is a live olympics. and if you go back to the last live olympics, what i mean by that, close to an east coast time zone. the events not coming from europe or asia. if you look at that, it would be atlanta. in 1996, the atlanta olympics, there were 172 hours and it was on one network, nbc. now, if you look at rio, here's what we're going to offer. 11 networks. 40 simultaneous streams.

more than 6,000 hours. every single event will be streamed live. every medal, every event. it's kind of breathtaking when you think about all that production in 17 days. we'll have more live coverage on day one in rio than the entire atlanta olympics. put another way, if you had 24 hours a day to watch with 7 days a week, it would take you 250 days to watch all this content. or if you went back to 2008 and watched every regular season nfl game, you'd have 6,000 hours. so since that's impossible, is this a problem or an opportunity? and, you know, some people just want to sit back, watch nbc, watch the primetime broadcast and enjoy themselves and there's going to be millions and

millions of people to do that. but in order to build momentum for the event, in order to allow you to watch everything you want to watch, that's where we think x1 comes in and our wonderful comcast technology team has been working on this and here's what we've got. let me update you on x1. you can see it in our booth. about 35% of our customers today have x1 and we have 40,000 more per day being installed. we're also partnered with cox and they're doing their own installation. millions and millions of people have x1. we'll be close to 50%, nearing that number around the olympics. because it's cloud-based, we can update it easily and make it special purpose and that's for a big event and that's we're doing for the olympics. so it's a marriage of the

comcast technology group trying to break new ground with the incredible storytelling of nbc to give you the ultimate olympics viewing experience and i believe a real glimpse into the future of television. so let's take a look at what we're working on. so you're watching a movie. you pull up the x1 guide. now, you'll notice we've added a new row and this new row is content purposed just for you. so we'll go and look at rio. by going into rio, we now have a complete takeover of the x1 platform. and here you'll see lots of different ways to search. start with "what's on now." you see, you're going to have, as i said, nine networks. as many as 11 networks at times. here's women's tennis. here's what golf channel's doing. here's telemundo. i can also search by sport. and you literally pick the sport you want. or you can search by athlete. or you can search by featured nation.

since this is the most multicultural viewing experience ever, the entire guide will also be made available in spanish. let's go back to the homepage and i want to watch something that isn't on a cable channel and for the first time we're seamlessly streaming all the other live feeds into one experience that you just click. so the nbc sports live extra will give you every olympic moment that's being streamed. if you want, you can go on the internet and see all this as well. but let's go back up and watch michael phelps. so you're watching live event, and what will come up is the xfinity sports app. now, one in three of our customers -- one in four of our customers use this app regularly now and we will have every event synced up realtime content that

companion vies. time it's lane assignment. we drop down, we see michael phelps, we click on him. one of the options, getting information on his background, is to favorite him. so we'll do that. another thing you might want to do is look at other videos of michael phelps. so here you can see other heats. press conference. interviews with the family and the like. another thing you'll do is get a mini guide right here while you're watching, say what else could i watch now? well, i'm interested in gymnastics. let's see what's going on. rotation two of four. we'll have realtime updates in the guide that will tell you where that event is at. okay. i'd like to watch. now, in the past, you would have one bulked up gymnastics feed. but with live streaming, we're going to have every single apparatus. so here's the all-around but i

just want to watch the floor routine, and of course, that's a stream, so i just click it. it tells me i'm going out on the internet and here we are are. we see gabby douglas. we know she won the gold four years ago. if you're not up to date on gabby douglas, i take out my remote. how old is gabby douglas? we will have special content for the voice remote all around the olympics, so it gives you all the information you want. gives you some options. that's just another way for me to personalize my experience by favoriting gabby douglas. causes me to then say, show my olympic favorites. and oops, i skipped past it so fast. you obviously can pick by person, by sport, by country. lots of different ways. go back to the homepage and

you'll see rio where we went in, but there's also another opportunity that nbc has created with gold zone. gold zone is one of the streams that will just be every highlighted moment. every medal, every final. live replays. so let's take a look at gold zone. so usa wins the medley and it causes me to say, how is the usa doing? and an instant medal count. so it's just going to be a totally different immersed experience. i notice it's just after 8:00, i want to go watch the nbc primetime show. watch nbc.

well, a little bit after 8:00, so one of the x1 features we offer is restart. just click it and now here you are at the top of the hour. so this is an exciting full-on experience. we'll have it up and running by august. summer games are going to be more comprehensive, more searchable, more personal than ever. a real look into the future of television. i have to tell you that x1, we've now on the voice remote, we've got 7 million of these voice remotes in our customers' hands. we were zero beginning less than a year ago. this time last year, we just began to talk about launching it commercially. we're doing 180 million voice commands every month. the numbers are pretty staggering and growing every

day. with context and the latest stats, unprecedented choice in control. to get you really excited for the olympics, take a look at this final video. ♪ ♪ ♪

>> the 2016 olympic games. live this august from rio. on nbc. [ applause ] >> and now, joining brian roberts for our next conversation, please welcome senior media entertainment correspondent for cnbc, julia boorstin. >> hey, brian. what a very cool demo. so i got a chance to play around with the product a little bit last week and it seems like this is a real transformation of the way people will experience the olympics. and i'm wondering how you expect this to impact ratings. i mean, are people going to be watching less live because so much is available on demand? >> our experience has been that if you put more in the top of the funnel, what comes out in primetime will be greater than

it would have been if you just had a single feed. this is an age-old question, but we made a decision, we bought the company, we told the international olympic committee -- everything we can to make the viewer feel like they have as many choices as possible, as if you were at the games. you would pick which events you want to go to, the technology is really finally here and so close. my prediction, if you go back to london, which was the most watched event in television history. i will go out on a limb and say we have equal standard for rio and we are -- we've been waiting for this day for years. summer olympics are the big olympics, obviously. the bigger of the two. and we're going to throw everything at it and i think it will help the ratings. >> now, this interface, to me, is a true internet interface applied on top of live television and it's kind of the culmination of what you've been doing with x1 for years. how does this speak to your

larger strategy of giving people more high-tech tools to navigate content? >> well, this has been the big advantage of cable. if you go back to people like bill gates who invested in comcast and others back when the internet got invented, saying that the big advantage is two-way technology, with all due respect to satellite it's a one-way technology. and it's taken years to find the right manifestation. on demand was the first. voice control being able to actually send that message back to a computer and then make the command actually happen, and interspersing streaming video, which is now a big part of everybody's life in the next generation, we need to remain relevant and the best, and that's why we had the best video in nine years, and i think other companies are doing well. there's something about our two-way technology that i think we need to make it right for consumers. they don't care how we do it.

they just want it to work easily and on every device and by the way, everything you saw, most of that you'll be able to take on your tablet or phone and dot same thing. which will be huge. in the mid-afternoon you'll be interested in archery and you want to just watch it. you're never going to have that option ever before and now you will. >> people's productivity in their officesi is going to decline dramatically. >> it's only 17 days. >> so big picture here, there is always talk about cord cutting and your video subscriber numbers grew much more than expected. how much of that is because of this type of technology? >> well, neal is doing a great job. and the team that he's put together and we've got kind of two changes. one is to be an innovation company and the other is to take our service and make it the best product. and both of those strategies are, i think, feeding into the good results. we've improved year over year for most of the last 10 or 12 quarters.

some quarters are negative because it's seasonality. but in the last 12 months we have more video customers than we did 12 months ago. and i think it's showing up on time 99%, giving automatic credit if we don't, resolving things the first time, but making it fun and better every year than it was last year. we have a new product release every month, every quarter. the pace of change is what makes it so fun and exciting. >> and as you continue to roll out x-1 into more praem's homeo homes, can you give us some insight as to how you see those cord-cutting numbers or the video subscriber growth numbers changing into next year? >> first thing we see is people consume more on demand, both free and paid. we see the use of buying things like dvrs and other second outlets increase, so our revenue goes up. there's a payback for it. as to another generation, the kids know how to used it a lot faster than the parents do. so i believe we're seeing on

college campuses with our product where you don't even need a set-top box. we're trying to touch every segment with the stream product, we're saying, can you do this without a box altogether. so we're seeing slow decline in the total video marketplace. if the product gets better, we can slow that down. we see a boomerang effect when kids get from 20 to 30 and start having kids of their own, suddenly the tv at 100 inches and really cool comes back into your life. so i'm optimistic, but change is upon us and you can't sit still and we're trying not to, and that is what this demo is. even the olympics, biggest event in television, in fact, was a rallying cry for the whole company to work together in a way we've never done. and literally every moment, every medal, on every device, pretty great.

>> you mentioned comcast presence in college campuses and there is the idea of the cord nevers. tell me how you are using that college presence to try to get kids hooked so when they do move into houses later they aren't cord nevers, but cord laters. >> one of the things we don't talk is how much investment we're making in broadband and wi-fi. but we put more money in that than maybe anything in the last several years. and that's -- wi-fi, 70% or 75% of all of the bits that people consume out of their home are happening on our wi-fi network. so that is a pretty powerful how people want that. so if you are in a college, we want to make sure you have broadband or wi-fi and then you can choose your content and many of the university cases we're giving them a package of content and they are seeing the value of our content. but in order for the broadband -- it's a competitive space. and in order for to us continue to succeed we need to increase speed, increase wi-fi

capability. what you'll see at our booth is the next generation of products. our technical team has a road map that is as exciting as any company on the planet i think, remote controls to a new small box to a wi-fi booster to the new interface to new capabilities with the remote. so a lot happening to give an experience that -- at whatever age you're at, you're going to find something from our company that you like and if you don't like any of it, we'll get you with nbc and cnbc and try to turn you on through the content side of the company and one way or another it puts us in a position to continue to innovate. >> and what about skinny bundles? because you do have those packaged with broadband and where do you see that going? >> it is a conversation evolving with each of our programming partners. we all have a legacy business and we want to continue to grow

that legacy business. and yet, some consumers want to get less than everything we offer and so far we've been able to find ways to offer enough. we grew our video revenue and video cash flow, grew our video skubz. i think things are pretty solid. >> and with all of this technology, the capability is changing for how you can distribute your content. where is this all moving toward? is it all about apps on boxes? are we moving away from the box entirely? >> well, one thing is we don't feel the government needs to get into the box business. but that won't speed us up. >> you are referring to the government unlocking the set-top box. >> we're mandating technology and regulating something that heretofore is evolving so fast. like every other computer if you had to get a box from five years ago you might not like it. so what you see at the booth, you could go to a samsung tv and get a lot -- a whole lot and some better of that x-1 experience without a box. because of html5, i think it will speed up because of apps.

we think the architecture is now at a place that allows us to be more ubiquitous and this would be the worst time to start regulating, at a time when between at&t buying directv and verizon and dish network and youtube and apple and google and just go down the list, hulu, it is an exciting space. and there is certainly not a lack of change happening. so why you would want to regulate befuddles me. >> so what would the implications of unlocking the set-top box mean for you both as a content distributor, as a cable krng as wecompany, as wel programmer? >> it has great significance to the content companies of whether their property is just being -- they can't control the path that it is on. heretofore, we have thousand page agreements with content companies on all of these possible questions and suddenly there is a new mandate but for what benefit.

>> and you talked about how comcast is a technology company now. you talk about a cable company, internet distribution company and you are a tech company at your core and these products displayed at the booth. what does that mean for the way people in the future will access content? could i sign up with comcast service without ever talking to a person? >> yes. absolutely. and maybe we just -- we just had a meeting friday, where we saw incredibly exciting road map -- this year road map, not five years, to where every transaction you do with our company, we want to make it digital. and you can take your smartphone and sign up, you could start consuming before you have a box. you could schedule an appointment or schedule a phone call. you don't have to call and wait on line. you can buy on amazon. you can -- you can see that working really well, where you just complet