and i will say some stereo types are a little true, so we are a very passionate and opinionated people. we were talking about the brexit, trump and hillary and there were many jus tick lagss and it was glorious. >> mr. mayor, we look forward to your speech behind the podium in the convention hall tonight. thank you for the sneak peek and great conversation. >> thank you. [ applause ] now we're honored to welcome the governor of the nation's largest state -- jerry brown. governor. he was mayor -- governor brown, thank you so much for being here. really appreciate it. this is a great honor for me. >> why do you wear different socks? >> this is the one time you're allowed to mismatch your socks between your patriotic. we have the unity of red and blue. >> for the record i'm wearing

the same -- >> i reason i say that, excuse me, francis cope poll la did the same thing, i can't remember if he did it because he wanted to be remembered or other per verse region. he had a reason, you're in good lineage. >> i was born in long beach and went to school -- >> that's an old age home. >> i was rossmore. >> is rossmore -- >> senior citizens community? >> i wasn't in that part. >> breaking news, mike grew up in senior citizen -- >> that's what always thought rossmore was. right next to the naval base in seal beach. >> that's a conservative part of california. >> it is or at least it was, yes. >> no doubt about it. governor, tonight you'll be

speaking to the convention and i wonder if you could give us a sneak peek of your going to talk about climate change. >> that's it, that's the only peek you're going to get. i don't like to anticipate my speeches. >> i can tell you a little bit more what you're going to say. >> i'm not finished writing it. >> you're going to talk about trump's reckless denial and clint clinton's bold leadership -- >> i don't know, maybe you and putin have access to my e-mails. >> governor, you first -- >> we can talk about the topic if you're interested in that. the speech is not the point. the point is the overarching threat to all living things and to our country and to so many other things. it takes great leadership and clarity and courage and a lot of

working together which is not happening as we talk. >> the amazing history you have, you spoke at the democratic convention 24 years ago and seen so much history here. what's a convention -- >> i spoke in 1980 -- how long ago -- isn't that 36. >> 36 years. >> but who's counting. >> i'll send you a copy -- >> no 1980 -- no, that was madison square garden, i remember that. >> yes. >> we'll talk about it it's all in google, you can check it out. >> so what's a convention you would like to relive? >> i wouldn't. first of all, conventions are, you know, their own reality but they are extremely noisy and sweaty and contentious. that's not the kind of thing -- a, i don't know reliving is it what i'm interested in. i'm interested in living and all of the things that are

surprising and new about things but the conventions are not one of the things i think about. >> what has surprised you about your conversations here in philadelphia? >> what has surprised me? actually nothing. it's pretty much what i expected. it's very hot. the democrats are being good democrats, very contentious and very -- i thought the energy and excitement at the end of the day, it is exciting to be in that arena, to be at the presidential convention. as many times as i've been to them, they still -- people are excited. it's the presidency, it's the country. so it's an experience. >> tell us what a day is like when you're at a convention, what your day is like. >> usually too long. and too much food and maybe a little too much drink sometimes. >> and you know, a lot of exchanges --

>> who have you spoken to? >> not anything deep or memorable. but a lot of quick interactions as you go along. >> who have you spoken -- >> seeing people you don't always see. >> who have you spoken to this time that you've enjoyed? >> well everybody i've spoken to i've enjoyed but -- >> careful. that was a good comment. the people who get the most fun and excitement out of the convention are people coming for first time. and many of those people i don't know their name but they came up to me and say hello and very glad to be there. these are the delegates. as you know democrats have more delegates than any other party in the world. there are a lot of people who have not been here and they are excited. >> i'm excited because they are. >> donald trump has said many times he's going to put your state in play and going to win it. we had a conversation with kevin mccarthy from bakersfield last

week in cleveland and he told us trump needs to win 40% of hispanic votes in california to have a chance. does donald trump have a chance in your state? >> no. donald trump says a lot of things so i would count he's going to win -- i guess he didn't say he's going to win california. he's going to put into play -- >> right. >> so that's trump for something but not clear what. i don't believe he's going to win california. i don't believe that because on a host of issues, he has a different point of view than california. >> have you met donald trump? >> yes, i have. >> what's he like? >> in fact, i rode in his plane once. it was quite enjoyable because he has a very nice plane. i don't know if it is the same one, this was many years ago. i was at palm springs and thinking about bringing the casino to oakland when i was mayor and he was there at the opening of a casino in palm springs so he gave me a ride back. and he had a real -- the thing i

remember most he had a renoir at the plane. i couldn't take my eye off this wonderful french impressionist painting. >> did you tell him you had the same -- >> no, i was afraid to say anything but i was impressed. i remember that ever since so -- >> that's hard to forget. a renoir on a plane. >> i don't know whether it was real or not but -- thought it was. i thought it was a hell of a statement. >> he has a home in los angeles -- >> if he's a resident, i hope he's paying his 13% income tax. i doubt if he's an official resident. he probably watches his travel schedule carefully. >> what was your impression of him as a person from that plane ride? >> i can't remember exactly. i mean, he's -- he was -- it was a quick ride. it was. i don't have anything unpleasant to talk about.

he's a bigger than life character. my memory is consistent with that. >> governor brown, yesterday's front page of the san jose mercury news, the newspaper says sanders california delegation among the loudest -- among the loudest argument -- among the loudest angriest in attacking clinton. will the california delegation come around? what's the mood in the california delegation? >> i've attacked clinton and i've come around. i'm sure the sanders people were. that's politics and that's conventions and that's primaries. and we've had many of them in the past. republican divisions have been great. so i think there's real issues. i think hillary is going to grab on to these issues. i think the key point is the democratic party is distinctly different than the republican party. and particularly republican party under trump. so i would say that the sanders

is -- laid out a vision that was responded to by a lot of people. that's going to affect the party, affects the candidacy of hillary and it's going to shape the world for the better. just making a lot of noise. you know, people talk about movements and all of this stuff, i've done that. if you go back and read my 1992 campaign, i had a lot in common with sanders but then what -- where do these excitements go and how do they turn into laws or changes in attitudes or practices? and the fact is, there's a lot of slippage between the speech and the action and the law and exchange, each step along that chain much events there's slippage. it's very hard to move things. that really is hillary clinton's claim here. she has experience. she has the knowledge. she's been through it.

and she's made mistakes. i can tell you as someone who hack has been in the process a long time -- i ran for junior college board in los angeles in 1969, and the things you do that were good, you don't -- you often don't identify what how it all happened. but when you make a mistake, it leaves more of an impression and you think about it. and you're wiser. that's what experience is. it's the accumulation of events and actions and thoughts and how the consequences turned out. and that level of experience can have no substitute. when you're in business, you have one variable, it's called revenue over cost. and money -- that's one. it's a one variable operation. in politics you're dealing with psychology and dealing with religion and dealing with feelings and dealing with power relationships, it's very

sophisticated and you can't come through a one variable world into a multivariable universe and expect to have the skill and the confidence and the know-how to not make catastrophic mistakes. in this campaign, that is the central difference besides values between hillary and trump. >> what is a mistake secretary clinton made -- >> i'll leave that to her own -- i never -- one thing i say, would you like to tell us your mistakes. in the catholic -- we go to confession in private. >> we thought this was confession. >> this is not confession. >> you endorsed hillary -- >> in articulate letter -- >> i've committed it to memory. i did draft it. >> take us inside that process. did you talk to her before you endorsed her? >> i talked to her and talked to bill. >> what were those conversations like? >> they were very -- i enjoyed

them. bill clinton is a very interesting and -- i don't want to say fun, that's not exactly -- >> a fun guy. >> i enjoy speaking with him because he's so -- he's been around. he's been through it all. and he has a lot of knowledge. and i think that's very important. what i see now that i didn't see in 1969 is experience actually has value. now, a bunch of old characters can be not so good and they are thrown out of politics but if you have the right values going through it over decades, it's very helpful. so talking to bill clinton he knows stuff and so does hillary. they've been around. and we're in a very dangerous world and very complicated world. it's changing all the time and i think that that's an experience and when i wrote about it, i said she's ready on day one to lead the country. i meant that.

i think it is different. but you can talk about it in your sitting here commenting and writing or whatever you do here at politico, but actually being on the field and making decisions and being there in the line of fire is a totally different experience. and hillary has that and i think it's very important particularly important at this time in our history. >> you mentioned your 1992 presidential race when you were the last man standing against the then governor clinton and won six contests, 4 million votes. you understand the bernie die-hards. >> i understand that when you raise money and you give a lot of speeches and you mobilize the allegiance of millions of people, how do you all of a sudden say stop, i was only kidding? you know, vote for the other person. it's -- it's psych logically and

humanly, it takes a bit to turn. you don't turn a ship in the ocean automatically. there's a little bit of turning and it takes a while. >> sacramento had a headline, bernie sanders xitd draws comparison to jerry brown. talking about how supporters feel but you know how he feels. >> i'm glad they are using that comparison. >> why do you like that comparison? >> because i like to be relevant. >> so we would love to open it up for a question or two. let's talk about your home state of california. you have endorsed harris in the california senate race and tell us good that race and why she's the best candidate. >> well, because she has the experience as attorney general. she was a prosecutor. she was elected in san francisco. she has local government and state government experience and i've worked with her. and i think she would represent

our state knowledgeably and well and articulately. that's why i endorsed her. >> for a thornier question. who's going to succeed you as governor? >> see, this -- i know you like prophety -- >> but you are a prophet. >> no, i'm not a prophet. i'm a politician. >> same thing. >> no, anyway, someone wrote a book about me and described high priest low politician. but not a prophet. we don't know the future and it's always up in the air. >> who would you like to succeed you? >> i'm note going to express likes and dislikes at this point. why would i do that? just to give you a little news line. it disrupts things. different people run and have constituency. let me give you a basic lesson in politics, it's about addition, not subtraction.

>> you can add to the conversation, right? >> but you subtract the allegiance of all of the people you didn't endorse. it's better to keep things up in the air for a while. >> governor brown, california leading indicator of what's going to happen to the rest of the nation on so many issues and you've provided leadership on minimum wage on income inequality and immigration and climate change. you're supporting a criminal justice ballot initiative. we've had such great conversations here in the politico hub about criminal justice reform, including a great conversation the other night that included aleej sha kise alicia keys. what is to stop the revolving door and help prevent recidivism, what is the biggest goal of that and what is the outlook for it? >> well, putting it simply, california had something called the indeterminate sentence for

60 years. in 1977 i abolished it with the idea that we needed a certain punishment and a punishment that fit the crime not the criminal. whereas the indeterminate sentence said you're sent to prison five to life or one year to ten year and when you get out is determined by how you behave in prison. the parole board will decide that. at the time there was criticism particularly from the left that some groups and individuals in prison were kept longer because of discrimination. some of the spirit of black lives matter -- okay, that was a thought. but it turns out that was a mistake. there was a case i would say that was not smart. the reason it was not smart, when you give someone a fixed term, you're in for eight years, exactly, when you're getting out, in for 15 years, there's no

incentive to not get in the gang -- the prisons are dens of inequity, gangsters and dope and violence. mexican mafia, they are very powerful and intimidating. you need an incentive for an inmate to avoid that, to go to class, to take drug treatment if he needs it, mental health programs, get involved in vocational training. be positive. all right, if you can say -- you can get out a few years earlier if we think you're rehabilitated, then that makes the prison safer and makes the individual when they are going back to society -- which 90% of them do, a lot readier to be a good citizen. so the idea of the ability to rehabilitation in prison and get out earlier is a safety measure.

it makes california safer. the recidivism rate under the fixed sentence, which i signed, was much higher than under the indeterminate sentence. so what we're doing in california is saying, in the list of crimes that are not violent, you're eligible for parole after you serve your primary offense. now, what does that mean? in california, since i signed that law, every year in hundreds and even thousands of instances, they change the law. usually making it tougher and added 400 enhancements, not only have 5,100 separate criminal offenses -- we had the ten command. s and had them for 2700 years and still only ten. in california, we've changed our criminal law thousands of times and we have 5,100 laws and on toop top of that, you're complicating it and 400 enhan

enhanceme enhancements. if you use a gun, you get 25 years more and in prison before, another five years. in a gang, you can get ten years. you pile it on to these enormous sentences that are fixed. what i'm saying is this whole mess, we're going to leave it as it is, we're not going to try to redo it but create the opportunity of parole after you've been there a certain amount of time if you're on the nonviolent list and the ability to create what i call rehabilitative or educational achievements. this is not just sitting around and accumulating good time. this is earning milestones, achievements that in the minds of the prison authorities make you eligible to go back into society. this is really a safety measure of both in the prisons and in society and it's a human measure because it treats people as though they were free will. and when you have a fixed sentence, you have no criminal

over your life. when you can earn the date of your release, you now have power over your life. and that power is exactly what you need to learn how to handle. that's why this is a real -- a real opportunity to make california safer, reduce recidivism and treat people as though they do have inherent capabilities to do good as well as bad. >> you turned around the state's finances with another ballot initiative which raised taxes on the richest residents, income inequality has become such a flash point in silicon valley. how do you see that being defused? >> what was the word? last word? >> how do you -- i didn't hear you. >> defused. >> defused. oh, defused. that makes it sound like we're going to defuse the issue but not solve the problem. but that's another -- >> how are you going to solve the problem?

>> and the problem is that you make more money than the average person in america. that's the problem. can we make you have lessor have them make more. >> my bosses are here, don't say that too loud. >> here's the problem. in the last 30, 35 years the strat fiction in america has become really bad in my opinion. in some ways obscene, the people at the top, owners of your companies, they are making huge amounts, relative to what they made just 30 years ago. so the average ceo they say and various ways to measure, 30 or 40 times more than the average person that works for them. now in many cases it's 300 times. what makes the boss ten times better now than 30 years ago? and there's a lot of reasons for that. technology, globalization, large enterprises. so the guy at the top, ideology,

people think that the guy at the top is doing it. in truth, we're all part of an enterprise. and we all are worth our contribution and how we measure that is a political question. it's also immoral and human question. how will we do that? we raise the minimum wage, set a $15 minimum wage and added family and sick leave to the equation. we have certain other protections like improve workers compensation and such but actually, getting at this gross strat fiction, that -- i don't know of anybody who has a real good answer to that because once people get something, they don't want to give it up. if you tell those ceos, guess what, you're making 20 million a year, we're going to give you a nice salary of 900,000. that is going to be very -- it's impossible at this point. so i don't know whether it takes

another economic disruption or what it takes, so in the big sense, we've created a lot of inequality and i think the best way forward is to make our schools places of opportunity, make sure the minimum wage is decent and make sure everybody has affordable health care and make sure cities are wonderful places with safe streets and libraries and parks and trying to make this as good as owe site as possible but it is going to be hard to attack what is global it's true in china and russia and true in new york and true in arkansas. we have a growing inequality and if we can curb it -- and i think in california our tax -- 13% tax does that. the top 1%, famous top 1%, they pay 60% on the california income tax, 60%. and the income tax is half of our general fund revenue.

that's fair. of course, it has the unintended consequence that it makes our tax system very volatile and virtually impossible to manage. between fairness and practicality falls the shadow. i would say we're doing a lot, not enough from a human and moral sense but we'll do more as the opportunity presents itself. >> governor last issue -- >> we can't let the governor go without asking if he's ever going to run for public office again. >> i'm 78, i'll be 80 when i finish, there's at least two more offices i can -- >> governor, before we wind down this confession, you've warned as a nation we're falling asleep on nuclear weapons. >> we are. i would venture to say that there aren't more than three people in this room, if that, who know the fire power of our nuclear arsenal that is ready to go today.

hiroshima we dropped a bomb, gave the order to drop 15 kilotons and killed many more later from radiation. america has 54,000 times the fire power dropped on hiroshima and most in congress think we need more and better. i say that's insane. it certainly noz human and we've got to be cutting that back and the trillion dollar modernization program needs to be dramatically changed and reformed and that's not happening yet. there are a few senators trying to stop the cruise missile but we need it to go further. russians have the same 54,000 times what we dropped on hiroshima. and indians and pakistanis can get into a regional war. nuclear materials are loose in many places. if the islamist fanatics get a

hold of it they could drop it on the nation's capital and decapitate our country. this is serious business and takes real change in america but takes working with putin and shia and other people in the world, leader of india, we have a lot to do virtually no conversation about this and it is damn dangerous and really out to wake up about it. we all ought to wake up about it. >> one question as we say good-bye, your family has had such long history, long history of service to the nation's largest state. your aide evan is wearing one of your dad's campaign buttons -- >> is that right? >> you were first elected governor in 1974 when i was 10. >> you were 10. you've come a long way. >> governor, is it possible -- >> i could relive that 1974 campaign. i had a full head of hair -- >> me too. >> a lot of young ladies chasing

after me. it was a wonderful experience. >> governor, is it possible that our home state will ever be two states or more than one state? >> well, if it is, i'd run for governor of whatever the other state was because then term limits wouldn't apply. there would be a loophole and new opportunity. >> well put. >> we have a movement called the state of jefferson movement, which is interesting what i have my ranch in northern california. some of the jefferson yans think i could become the governor but no, that is not said seriously so please -- >> you wouldn't rule it out? >> i've learned never to rule anything out. in fact, we had a famous politician in california named jess unra and he said you have to hang loose so you can swing at anything that comes along. >> i like that.

works in journalism too. you're a big reader, what book should we read? >> i'm reading sleep walking, how the world -- how europe got into world war i. very interesting all of the stupid things so many smart people did. the question i want to leave you with, what stupid things are all of the smart people doing today? >> and governor, our last thing is you have a passion for family history and been exploring family history. what's something you've learned about your family that would be interesting to our audience? >> well, i just learned that my grandmother, ida shackman came from prushya and learned some of those relatives made some money. they were not quakers, they did pretty well. after world war ii they lost it all. they wrote to some of our relatives here and asked for help and they never heard and three years ago i came and

knocked on a door in germany and met a man whose great grandfather was my great grandfather's brother and said we wrote this letter to you way back -- my mother did in 1945. i'm here to help. >> all right, governor brown, such an honor to have you on our stage. we look forward to your speech tonight. have a great convention. >> thank you. >> what a treat, governor, appreciate it. [ applause ] >> thank you very much, governor brown. what an honor and now a treat to welcome to our stage the campaign manager for hillary clinton. thank you so much for coming. >> thanks. >> good to see you. so rob by -- >> i heard this is your last one of these, is that true? >> no, never true. never say that. >> not going anywhere but we'll have fun and hopefully this isn't your last either. >> not at all.

robby, this morning, the headlines, first woman clinton wins historic nomination, the "new york times" banner democrats make clinton historic nominee, congratulations. what has senator clinton's mood been secretary clinton's mood been in your most recent conversations with her? >> that's a good question. i think last night she was probably a combination of excited, overwhelmed and just grateful to everybody. >> and the video that suddenly appeared, where was she? >> in chap pa quau with her supporters there and they were elated as well. the coolest part about that video was nobody knew it was coming. we flashed the pictures of the president -- all of our previous 44 presidents, all men and then she popped on the screen and the glass shattered and the whole

crowd just roared. it was really great to witness that. >> and campaign manager of the nominee, where are you physically during the big speeches? >> it's depended -- most of the time i'm down in our staff work room. i was up there for when she came on the screen and then i was there as well for the end of the roll call which was pretty special. >> take us inside your convention. there must be a lot of demands on your time. what is a day like for you here? >> it starts really early and goes really late. i've been trying to get more than four hours of sleep a night but i've been struggling, as you have as well. up in the morning, either doing press or i just did two delegation breakfasts this morning before i came here. yeah. and then over the last few days there was a lot of work we were doing with senator sanders' team throughout the day just to coordinate and make sure that

our floor programs were working together and we were coordinated on how to move forward on things. i think for the next few days, it will pivot a little bit more to focusing on planning for the next few days and that sort of thing. >> what has surprised you the most? you've had an interesting few days at the convention. what surprised you the most about what's gone down? >> what has been really great to watch is how these delegation teams have worked together collaboratively. the sense i have this morning in the delegations that i was in, people are charged up, ready to go. and i think people were really inspired last night in particular by the story we told about all of the things that secretary clinton has done and achieved in her life. president clinton did a brilliant job of putting that together but we heard last night from victims of the 9/11 attack, the eagle academy in new york

where young under privileged youth are getting a fantastic education and going on to college. these are real people whose lives have improved because of work secretary clinton has done. tonight we're going to be focusing more on her steady leadership that she's going to provide leadership and americans can count on to get this economy working for everyone. we'll hear from a variety of speakers on that. >> as we thank c-span and welcome our c-span viewers, our viewers in live stream land. a few of the posters from last night, stronger together. fighting for us. and this one, do the most good. what is the message of that? >> so it is actually the methodist creedo that secretary clinton learned when she was growing up -- i'll butcher this, but do the most good you can -- you're not methodist? >> no, i'm not methodist. >> do the most good you can

wherever you can, so on and so forth and that has been the driving force in her life. i think president clinton did a fantastic job last night of talking about how at every juncture of her life, whether in elected office or first lady or law student, she has just continued to work and try to address and fix problems that she sees everywhere. she is always done the most good she can everywhere she can her whole life. >> robby, 103 days and a wake-up, it's a 50/50 nation, secretary clinton will win if what? >> secretary clinton will win if we do two things. first of all, we have to make the case to voters which we've been making over this convention, that secretary clinton is going to be able to do three things. first of all, she's going to be able to bring this country together and do something about the partisan gridlock that's stopping us from addressing real problems. second, that she is the candidate in this race who can

get this economy working for everyone. donald trump has always been out for himself. he's always been for what makes him richer. regardless of how it effects other people and lastly, she's the candidate who can keep us secure at home and donald trump cannot, he's temperamentally unfit to be commander in chief of this country. >> yesterday's "new york times," upset story, one demographic that clinton can't seem to win over. what is that demographic and what are you going to do about it? >> i'm convinced we can win over any demographic. donald trump has been saying the midwestern voters are his for the picking. >> white guys specifically. >> sure, white guys. these voters are getting hit the hardest by -- they were hit the hardest by the economic downturn and being hit the hardest how the system is rigged and economy

isn't working for everyone. the problem for donald trump is when you look at his life and look at how he's conducted he's business, he's always been about what's best for him. he had a choice where to manufacturer his suits and ties. did it overseas. when he's campaigning, we need to stop outsourcing jobs. you can't trust him on that. we look at the taj mahal casino, big casino, lots of jobs, it's going to be a big success. he got out right before the whole thing crashed and left other people holding the bag. he didn't pay the small business contractors and didn't pay low wage workers. we've seen thousands of lawsuits against this man. we saw the other day didn't pay a hotel. all americans but particularly working class americans need to be very skeptical. that's why this isn't going to pan out. >> have you met donald trump? >> i have never met donald trump, no.

he called me a loser two days ago. >> in what medium? >> on tv, said i was a loser. >> that's an honor, right? >> i guess, yeah. >> mike and i were talking to some republicans who say if you kind of put him on truth serum as we like to do which our bosses say, they kind of say there are a set of things you need to do to win a campaign, you need to do data and be on the field and on television and communicating a message. donald trump doesn't seem to be any of those with a concerted effort. what do you make of that? do you think there's no -- what do you think the strategy is behind that? >> is there one at all? >> i don't know. you obviously have to ask him. i think he's making a mistake in take's people's -- for granted. we talk about data and staff, all of that is ultimately in service of reaching out and talking to voters, that's what matters in the campaign that conversation you have or message you're delivering and motivation

you're providing. i think by not deploying people out and not using their time efficiently with data, you're taking votes for granted. and that's a mistake in my view. >> take us inside the campaign. the clinton orbit is famous for having a lot of cooks in their kitchen. so how do you make sure you're the one that's stirring the proverbial pot? >> i think that it's -- that's the wrong way to look at it actually. this is a team effort. i think anybody who has run any campaign, let alone a presidential campaign, will tell you you're never going to have all of the answers and you certainly can't run every aspect of the campaign. there needs to be a structure where there's clear command so that decisions can get made and that sort of thing but the idea that you -- that your purpose is to shut others out and you're the only one in, i think is a mistake that some people make. in fact, i think the job of a

good campaign manager is to leverage all of those folks to make sure the campaign is the best smartest campaign if could possibly be. >> how often do you hear from president clinton? >> we talk -- we talk frequently. he's a very -- >> by phone, is his preferred? >> by phone, yes. and look, he's just -- you talk about a team and talk about a partnership. he's a joy to work with. he's just got a brilliant mind for policy, for -- he's a brilliant communicator and way of disstilling ideas down that's just incredible. so he's been one -- i've learned as much from him alone as anyone else on this campaign. >> to take jake's analogy, may call him the head chef. >> he's there preparing the meal. >> soux chef. robby, people say you manage and

lead by positivity and magn magnetism, not by fear. how would you articulate your management style? >> you know, i think first of all, you can't ask people to do anything you're not willing to do yourself. i think you have to always -- always know your purpose as an organization, not just the mission. our mission on this campaign is to win 2 p 0 electoral votes for hillary clinton but we have a larger purpose on this campaign. that is to make life better for people in this country and provide more opportunity for more people. so to me that's the touchstone every day around which we organize everything we do. and i think the other thing i would say is just working really hard and you know, it's always come together if we have a good

plan, good strategy, we know our purpose and work hard it always comes together. >> a lot of young people in the politico hub, including our fantastic interns that came with the help from the institute of politics and a lot of young people watching on c-span and live stream and a lot of those young people want to be you. what was your first task on your first campaign and what's your advice to a young georgetown student who wants to be you? >> that's a good question. i don't know my parents would endorse people taking this career path. they were very concerned for a number of years. >> seems to have worked out. >> it worked out okay. >> my very first experience on campaigns, i grew up in vermont and i just started volunteering for campaigns. my family wasn't particularly political but in where i grew up in vermont, there's no municipal garbage removal and so you have to bring your trash to the dump every weekend, it's open three hours on saturday morning.

the entire town goes there. it's actually a very efficient place to do politics. so i would -- go to the garbage dump and get petitioned signed and hand out literature and talk to voters. so that's where i got my start. but my first -- actually this is kind of cool for this week. my first real internship or on a campaign was i packed everything up and i went to go work for pat leahy's re-election in 1998. i moved to burlington. i saved up money working through high school, rented an apartment for two months. and actually the woman who gave me that internship i just saw her yesterday. and -- so yeah, pretty cool experience, actually. everything sort of came full circle. but my advice to anybody would be don't -- you know, people come to me and say i want to come to the brooklyn headquarters. don't go to headquarters. go out and do the work where it

happens. what matters in a campaign cynt action with voters. the core skills of any campaign, campaigner is talking to voters and learning to ask people for things. learning to ask people to contribute their time and money and help out with the campaign. so if you learn the skills, can you go from there. but always go out where the work is. don't, you know, don't go to washington, d.c., and don't go to headquarters. go out. >> you're a data guy. what metric do you obsess about? >> that's a great question. it depends on the strategy. right now it's how many voters we're registering and if they're the right voters, how many are signing up to be absentee. how many voters were committing to vote around early vote sites. those are the things i care about most right now. >> and nonregistration, who are the right voters? >> that is what our data tells us. so we obviously model who our likely supporters are and when somebody registers, you know, we're cross referencing.

sometimes we're referencing people who are already registered. if we're getting registrations, we're not adding people to the voter roles. that's an issue, too. >> tell us how hillary clinton absorbs information. she gives a lot of speeches. what is her method of taking it all in? >> i have to say, she is such a good listener. and it's something i try to study when i'm with her. she has tremendous capacity to absorb information. she's a very active listener. she asks a lot of questions but, i mean, boy, does she remember a lot of stuff. her mind is so sharp, so quick, so expansive. it's -- it's truly impressive. it's an impressive thing to see. >> one of our colleagues had a story recently about how

revisions to speeches. how often does she get a speech and then kick it back you to with revisions? >> well, she does -- she revises every speech. but sometimes she'll kick it back and say this just not the direction i want to go. and she's very thoughtful, particularly on matters of policy. she's very careful. she's a very precise individual. and her diction, her ability to -- what i just did not do. she speaks in full sentence ands paragraphs. i do not. >> most people don't. is the speech for tomorrow night already finished? >> it is largely finished. but i'm sure it will continue to evolve. >> and what should we be looking for tomorrow night? what is the headline out of that speech? >> well, she's really going to be bringing this whole case together. both talking about the

motivations that at the core of why she does this. we talked about do the most good. but also real plans for how she's going to accomplish these goals she set out. i think one of the problems for donald trump at his convention is he had great platituded, right? but there were no specific there's. now you can't -- you don't win voters over with policy ma nusha. however, do you need to have a plan. & a realistic plan. i think she's balance both of those things. she'll talk about why she's running and also what she's going to do. >> so that's what you want people's take away to be from the speech. is there one take away you want people to have from the speech? >> i think, look, as i said before, voters have a choice in this race between someone who is going to fight on their side and someone who is going to fight for themselves. and we want folks to understand that choice. but also we want folks to understand that hillary is going to fight on their side.

>> robby, the afb bulletin, kremlin denies interfearing in u.s. election campaign. what are your experts telling you? >> the experts have to speak on this. and i know the journalists have been spending a lot of time on. this i'm with you guys. i'm only absorbing what we're reading in the paper. we see now that fbi, is in fact, investigating a russian intrusion into the dnc. that data was stolen. some experts have raised possibility that since the russians have this data and since it seems to have been released in a manner such that it would damage the campaign that it was deliberately release fo releaseed for that purpose. i think it's troubling in last few weeks we have seen the republican platform change to remove aid for the ukraine. i don't -- i sense no movement

within the republican party to stop assisting the ukraine. that's strange that that happened. we see trump continuing to flatter vladimir putin. he flattered him in the context of assassinating journalists. >> we don't want to be assassinated. >> you know, i don't think any of us do. look, the whole picture raises a lot of troubling questions. and the experts and journalists are going to have to keep working that to get to the bottom of what is really happening. but the totality raises a lot of troubling questions. >> and what's the trump connection? >> we don't know. we don't know. all we know is that trump continues to praise vladimir putin, to talk about how nato should not necessarily intercede if the russians are to take -- make aggressive acts towards eastern europe. and we know that -- or we're being told that russians stole this data and potentially

released it for the purpose of hurting our campaign. experts are going to have to connect all those dots. >> do you seem there will be more traunchs of leaked e-mails? >> i don't know. they haven't always delivered on their promises generally. we'll see if they deliver on this specific promise. i just don't know. and we also don't know when they release information sometimes it's been doctored, it's been altered. we'll have to see. >> preview this bus tour that you are going to be on right after the convention. where are you going? tell us what you're going to try to get across. >> yeah, we talked about how the different hinges of the choice for voters and one of the most important ones is the economy. secretary clinton and senator kain are going through pennsylvania and ohio. they're visiting towns and manufacturing -- towns with manufacturing facilities and manufacturing facilities themselves that provide good jobs here in america. they're going to talk about how

they're going to make the biggest investment in jobs in 70 years in this country in manufacturing among other things. they're going to talk about how donald trump had a choice about where he manufactured his products, he chose to manufacture those overseas. and voters should find that troubling, frankly. >> robby, today's usa today headline, trump toils to lock down tar heel territory. >> a lot of ts in that sentence. >> yes. >> the 538 says that trump has a 62% chance of winning north carolina. is north carolina the new ohio? >> i think north carolina is either -- has become or is about to become a true battleground state. we've seen it waivering within a very tiny margin. it's been one of the states that's moved the least. it is changing demographically

in a way that is helpful for our party. and helpful for hillary clinton. i think we have a real shot of winning there. i think it will be tough. but president obama won there by a very small margin in 2008. >> excuse me. do you have -- tell us a state that we might not be focusing on that you think you have a chance at? >> one place -- i think it's a reach. but nebraska's second congressional district. that is a place that barack obama won in 2008. i think we have a shot at winning it now. it's an economically prosperous area that is changing demographically and in way that's are favorable. >> how about arizona? >> i think arizona is tough. i think arizona will become more and more a battleground every year. it's tough this time. we certainly have a team there and, you know, we'll monitor it. >> do you agree with ron bro brownstein and others who say if you won florida woun? >> i think if we win florida, it's very hard to put together

the math for donald trump. it's really hard for him at that point. >> how do you win florida? >> we win florida by signing up people to vote absentee and take advantage of the early voting system there and making this economic case and inspiring people to turn out to elect the first woman president. >> and what do do you about virginia? >> i think virginia is looking better and better every day. i think adding senator tim cati ticket was a boost. there they change the political dna of the state in a way that is really helpful to us. >> the lead story of "politico" this morning, is tim kaine liberal enough? do you worry about his vibe with the progressives? >> i think tim kaine has an outstanding progressive record. that's why you saw the afl, the league of conservation voters -- >> not all progressives agree with you, as you know.

>> not all progressives are going to agree on any topic, let's be clear. you saw progressive groups across the spectrum rush in to praise his -- the choice of tim kaine. this is someone who is a civil rights lawyer who took on nationwide insurance early on and won on the discrimination case. he got pre-k passed through legislature. created a lot of new jobs there. i think his record can stack up against anyone. >> ap this morning from albuquerque says clinton campaign seeks to make most of kaine's spanish. what role will the senator play in the weeks -- in the 103 days ahead? >> what matters is where the candidates stand on the issues. i think one of the reasons we're doing well with latinos rignow secretary clinton and tim kaine are firmly on their sides on the issues. the nakt senator kaine can communicate in people's first and second slang a real asset to

the campaign. and we look forward to taking advantage of that. >> last night virginia governor told our colleague that hillary clinton will eventually be for the trans pacific partnership. a colorful character you worked for. what is his political gift? what you have learned from him when you ran his campaign? >> you know what i'm so troud wf terry mccullough? first of all, he's one of the nicest people in the world. takes such good care of his -- not just his nuclear family but his larger family and community. he invited all the staff to a holiday party a year after he was in the governor's mansion. we had a great time. but what i was so proud of there is virtually everything he promised in that campaign he followed through on. and he has stood up for people again and again. he got clinics reopened, women's health clin thakz the republicans tried to shut down. he's been a champion for lgbt rights there and he tried, although the court took it away,

but he tried to restort voting rights of hundreds of thousands of ex-felons in that state. and unemployment there has dropped to historic lows. he's delivered on everything he said. and people, all of the staff are incredibly proud. >> last night in the y hachahoo box, they were talking about the fact that hillary clinton's brand is experience and steady whereas consumers we typically want new and exciting. >> i think what voters want right now is someone who can actually get things done in a hyper gridlocked, tough political environment. >> what is the evidence that that's what they want? >> people want better jobs. they want their wages to go up. and the and they're frustration t straighted now because the political system is delivering nothing for them. hillary clin has a record of

working with both sifrdz the aisle, whether tez creating children's health insurance program and working with republicans to get stuff done. she also has the steadiness and experience to be commander in chief. people recognize how complex and dangerous the world has become. they do not want someone as unfit, unqualified and unexperienced as donald trump. >> what is the biggest story about this campaign, either the environment or how times and tech are changing that press is missing? >> that's a great question. i would actually say it is the pace of change itself in technology. so one thing that this was said to me when we first got this endeavor started. he said technology is going to change more between the beginning of this cycle and the end of the cycle than it did between 2008 and now. that was six years earlier. and he's absolutely right. there are media platforms today

that did not exist when we started this campaign. and so i think one of the challenges for a campaign management speaker inspective is how to manage that change, what to embrace and run with and what to just ignore as chatter. >> you have to scram. we'll have a last question then we'll wrap. >> i was going follow up on. that they he'd uber in 2008 had 32 cars and now it's worth $65 billion. i think there is bipartisan agreement. what is something that hillary clinton will dough in t in the 0 days in office? >> what she's been highlighting the most is this investment in jobs. >> infrastructure? >> infrastructure, clean energy jobs. she's talked about making america green energy superpower of the world. >> tax reform. >> you'd have to ask her. >> you should set up that for us. >> robby, you work crazy days

going from hr to field and yet you stay fit. how? >> i -- that is making an assumption. you try to eat like decently well. and i have a stabbedinding desk. >> you use a standing desk. >> i got winded, i had to run up stairs yesterday and i was more winded than i should have been. >> and when you eat sensiblish, like what is your die sunset. >> i have a smoothy in the morning. yeah. that's good. some veggies and fruit, mix it all together. >> i like smoothies. >> i like carbs. >> i do, too. >> i think we are going to get the hook. >> before we do, i personally want to thank our amazing "politico" friends and our friends at bank of america. >> i think we're going to welcome luisa savage up to the stage to give us a quick remark.

>> thank you, everyone, who is here. thank you to everyone on the live stream. wanlt to give a programming update. these guys will be back today at 3:00 with john podessa to continue this conversation. coming up at 1eshgs we have a deep dive on the economy and what hillary clinton would do as president. that panel includes larry summers, allen krueger and adviser nira tanden. we have another deep dive on energy with her energy adviser and two sitting governors. we also have two panels of swing state lawmakers on both economy and energy to talk about how the issues are playing in the battleground states. and at 5:30, we'll be back here for cocktails and conversation with funny ordai. so thank you to all of our journalists for the incredible conversations. stay tuned for a lot more. >> thank you. >> thank you. and always on snacks and usually on booze. >> good interlewd. thank you, robby. it's been awesome.

thank you mike. thanks to the vent team and all you watching in live stream land. thank you for bank of america for making these possible and to many more years of partnership. again, as she said, join me with john podesta. we'll try to poke holes in robby's argument later on. thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you so much. day three of the democratic

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eisenhower's behind the scenes mentoring of president reagan. then the influence that author tom clancy and president reagan had on each other during the 1980s cold war. all that coming up on american history tv on c-span3. this weekend on the presidency, james rosebush, former deputy assistant to president reagan talks about his personal life and personality. mr. rosebush is the author of "true reagan", what made ronald reagan great and i didn't think matters. the richard m. nixon museum hosted this hour long event. i what like to introduce someone who served in the nixon and reagan white houses. he joined the president nixon's campaign in 1968.

he then retired and he helped him research and write his best-selling memoirs. he returned to politics in the reagan administration where he served as a speechwriter and senior adviser. he's been influential in many states and national campaigns. he is a very supportive member of the president reagan board. thank you, jonathan. first, i'd like to add a note that's relative to this setting.

having worked so closely with both presidents, i think he would like to know first how much they sprerespected each ot and worked very closely both with president nixon and president reagan. and president reagan had deep respect for president nixon for insights and depth of experience in foreign policy and he also looked to president nixon for political advice from time to time. and i also, i live in san clemente for obvious reasons. i worked with president nixon on his memoirs after he left the white house. i worked for him for four years and i sat for many hours with him. he prepared his memoirs and as we prepared for the david frost interviews and as he watched the 1976 and then later conferred with him as he watched the 1980

and 1984 elections. he had great respect for president reagan's skills all around as a communicator, as a politician. yaen way sh it's nice to be able toinlt deuce a former colleague of mine in the reagan white house. there are hundreds of books written about president reagan. i haven't read all of them. many of them purport to be written from the inside. they say what i saw or what they say about reagan the man or the real reagan. there are very few people and

very few books written by people that had real actual close personal exposure to the president. jim rosebush has written one of those books. one of the few that could say he was there to observe the president personally. i thought my strongest insights came from mrs. reagan. she taught me a lot about how to deal with president reagan and how to communicate with him and help him to be a better communicator and help me be a better bern to work with him. so when he worked with her, i

think it was better to help with president reagan. he assisted in negotiating trips with china, japan, korea, france, england and germany. he was very privileged to be in at the very historic bilateral meeting between reagan and gorbachev. he is very insightful in his communicating skills. jim will have to wait for my book for another view. i really can endorse many of his insights into how the president prepared for his speeches and

what techniques he used to become the great communicator. in this book, he excerpted manufacture the great speeches from president reagan, an element of research that is very valuable contribution to reagan's scholarship. jim was there when she did the just say no speech campaign. that was not in the oval office but in the west hall of the white house. now i also did a little personal research into jim that he is not aware of yet today. i have my own sources in the white house. and i did find out that jim was asked to do a lot of things, impossible things from time to time. he was asked to pull a lot o