false. there were substantial, a substantial campaign of misinformation that raised questions in the minds of the american people. i think the combination of the insurance industry on the outside and majority of the republicans on the inside proved to be too much to overcome. thank you, all, very much. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

and i do not think these last-minute blame games will advance the debate. there will not be any debate. and i do not think they will sell with the american people. i think many americans are thankful for republican, and in some cases democrats, stood up and asked tough questions. that the administered and could not answer. the liberals could not answer, talking about choice and quality of protection against what could've been an overdose of government control. so, in fact, it was overwhelming consensus on the part of the american people to put on the brakes. and my view is we saw democracy in action. that is the way it's supposed to work. all of the talk about gridlock and filibusters -- wasn't too long ago we had the 1992 elections. the democrats had a majority. they did not bring up any of president bush's economic stimulus package. and no one deemed that gridlock. that was just the end of the year and we could not do everything. my view is we are prepared to, as we have been in the past, i do not think any bill had as

much support as the bill packwood plan in the senate. democrats never proposed their plan, any plan. and whether it is a mainstream plan or their own plan, the clinton or the mitchell plan or any variations, there is a better understanding. and maybe after the election we can come back and it will be on the top of the agenda as i said last week on the senate floor. when congress reconvenes, regardless of what the numbers may be in the senate. i'd be happy to answer questions. >> senator dole, your own shift in view away from universal coverage, which you described on the floor, how much was that affected by your presidential ambition? sen. dole: i do not see any problem with anybody having coverage.

i have said that as recently as yesterday in new hampshire. but i think many of us shift. i was for the individual mandate. so were other senators. we did what we were supposed to. i was listening to the american people, and they were not buying. my view is that i don't want to get rid of people having coverage. how are you going to get there. say that thee pinnacle continues to stay between 80 and 70% wanted universal health care. >> the other question is a much are you willing to pay. that we cleverly have this. it was always a process that was going to be filibustered. there are other mandates that were going to passover.

there was a lot stories, a lot of it has been a process. i think the american people are more concerned about substance. we are prepared as we have been. mitchell just sent him he has known that for some time, i think we need to stay here a couple weeks in august or that is going to happen. we will see what happens next year. will be a change of management, we will be able to put together a package. >> did you hear what the senator said about health care, we need to make sure our fingerprints are not on it. do you think that is true? >> he will be up here in a minute. do you think republicans killed ?elp health care we listen to the americans. there is nothing to kill around here. weekend, we are

not on the endangered species list. if we expand that to protect the minorities, my view is that the majority of the american people say weocrats that's don't want all of his government. we are not going to be effective about that. republicans,the that is all in the media. to that, that is what this is all about. minute, will be up in a we respond what they wanted and didn't want. they think this global alliance employees, ifrom think it was fairly successful from some democrats. there never was a time in this debate where they had a majority.

they never had 50 votes. >> without the president in the senate there was going to be filibusters on a bill in the senate. is accurate?t we don't stand still. we are working. if we were in control he would ready campaign that helped our party. we would be honest about that. we want to be honest about what the democrats are doing. this is perpetuating democratic control. you don't need a bureaucracy to figure that out. think the answer is in the speech with campaign reform and is never going to happen.

there was a republican and democrat party coming you are going to have a bipartisan meeting. then you will have to focus up or down, i would be prepared to work on that basis. >> the senate voted a conversion of this. , the americanorst people are not prepared to do that. debate, you have the individual mandate, you have the subsidy approach. you had to scale it back to >> even out of very expensive. is too costly. when you come back next year, do you think that there will be a subsidy in market reform? >> deeming it down or up?

>> you can play games with this. think that there will be an approach to subsidies? do you think it will be too costly for people to buy this. there are a lot of changes happening on their own. that fought for health care, it is bitter defeat and a bitter disappointment. with the compliance bill and governmental affairs have you gotten a chance to review those? >> no, not really. >> i don't know, i have talked to the sender but he has given me a list of things that he would like to share. obviously the appropriations bill, beyond that the only major

was something about a superfund. i think as democrats look at the polls somebody wanted to stay here. others wanted to go home. we are prepared for them to go today. we connect out today but soon. you first started talking about the summit you said that having the four leaders. >> you said one of the reasons who isu felt that way having four or five members the filibuster. that it was republicans were doing that at the time, a lot of us figured out who you were talking about. did you ever feel constrained by or more conservative colleagues

from negotiating and pushing what you study for a long time? the senator says something like that, i never would do it without consulting our colleagues. that would be something he would have to check and i would have to check. we have done that in the past, we have come together, they similar down a point, we talked about pre-existing conditions are something we would like to take care of it that was not even considered by the democrats. >> that is not the summit idea? sense did yourger feel constrained as the minority leader by your colleagues who are not threatening filibusters? >> at 640 want to filibuster effectively. >> there was a lot of talk by federal democrats that they

arranged a health care plan that was a lot better, you think most people us to get the health care insurance you get? >> we offer that, it is going as far as the other belgrade will have to come back to it next year. when will all the partisan bickering and, george initial set a lot of things about president bush created now for whatever reason you seem to be standing in the way of what mitchell would like to get done. when you just take over, when does it ever get together? i amdon't know what standing in the way of. week -- solid >> i'm not saying the way of anything.

>> i voted for this. [indiscernible] >> you just said the lobbying that, you just indicated the gift ban -- >> what? i don't know anyone who is blocking those things. got to town, i have to leave again. >> that you think you have a sort of unequivocal? >> alister to be a little ambivalent. you said you should listen to voters, they have indicated strongly that they want lobbying and congressional compliance.

>> i told senator mitchell that we would try to work out an which we would try to trust each other. you do not always get everything you want. that is on the list. , ite was a time agreement just takes one or two senators. to block most anything. >> i don't have any objection to either one of those. >> george mitchell made a big deal that republicans for the ones who killed health care reform, did you see any fallout with this and the election? >> i saw in the washington post something about congressional coverage. the democrats were run as positive.

i have not read the book but it should be a best seller. in my view it is like when to sell. i didn't know there was a check. i don't think senator mitchell made a with check. the point is they connected together. the mainstream could not get an agreement. the right reason being the american people said to slow down, we will be back next year and make it right. we covered others on the floor saying they did not know what was in the bill, nobody knew what was in it. now you are telling us you knew

exactly what was in it. which is it? >> it is two things, when you walk in to the drugstore and you read the label, you are not going to buy it. some people thought it was more complicated. i think you have two categories. other people understood and were for it. even people who may have benefited were afraid of the federal government. dailyk there are these meetings. they do precisely where they were coming from. >> i see her most of the providers are figuring there is going to be some kind of medicare crack. many want this to subsidize , there is going to be a pool of money to expand

coverage, which are you for? >> i think i will wait the next year. he wanted to do something today. last-minute things are like a toaster, they pack -- pop up everywhere. easier, theye it will have their own reforms, how do you feel about that. with republican governors association, we are try to work with them to make it easier. >> monday night on the communicators pennsylvania rankingman mike doyle member of the key house subcommittee on communications and technology talks about privacy. that neutrality and expanding broadband and the united states. he is interviewed by a technology reporter for the hill. >> when you guys negotiate with

republicans and the public outcry, there is this a look outcry will this be a point of leverage that can be used. >> i think this is all part of thishe reclassification of boat, i think this has become the past. i think the public is went you have to say something about this. what we want as democrats on this committee is strong consumer protection. more and more the handheld device and your laptop, your whole life is on these devices right now. family information, people want a sense of the internet service providers. this dataot is in

strictly for themselves. >> watch the communicators on monday night on c-span two. >> american history tv was recently in ford theater for the hosted byl symposium the abraham lincoln institute. talks about the 16th presidents relationship with immigrant groups. this is just under one hour. great pleasure for me to introduce jason silverman, i first met him and bring field, illinois when i heard him deliver a sparkling lecture on abraham lincoln and immigrants at the state capital. he is the author or editor of 11 books, he just told me his book out there, that is