land. they can only own a land lease. lease or grazing lease. they are allowed to live on the land, work on the land, but not own it. the white people of san juan county will say native americans should not get equal voice or equal citizenship rights because they do not pay property tax, because they are not allowed to own property. >> thank you all. when do we reconvene? >> 1:45. >> thank you all. see you at 1:45. >> [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> interested in american history tv, visit our website, c-span.org/history. ,ou can view our tv schedule

preview upcoming programs and watch college lectures, museum tours, archival films and more. american history tv at c-span.org/history. so this is a house that belonged to a family who lived in fayetteville, arkansas in the 1850's and 1860's. they were here during the civil war. they experienced the war. they loved fayetteville. when the war came, it just changed everything. we are at headquarters house and fayetteville, arkansas. it is the home of the washington county historical society. they purchased the house in 1967. the house was built in 18 53 by jonas tebbit. he was from new hampshire, but he had come to arkansas in 1838 to study law and van buren. and he passed the bar was traveling the law circuit,

he came to fayetteville and he happened to meet matilda winlock. he and matilda winlock got married in 1847. 1862, they of confederates were being driven out of missouri and down here to arkansas. as they were being driven down to arkansas and came through the town of fayetteville, they decided to burn all the confederate stores. held and the food was the ammo was held and things like that. basically the soldiers ransacked the town. it was said that some of the citizens participated in this ransacking also, but it was a pretty dark time for the citizens of fayetteville. headquarters house was directly threaten one across the street the fayetteville female institute have been used as an arsenal for the confederate army so they decided to set fire to it. the powder and shells have been removed, but there were faulty shells. when the building caught fire,

the shell started to explode, endangering the house, but they were able to save it. here is a picture of the arkansas college and the tebbit's house. the president of arkansas college lived across the street. arkansas college was not burned in the initial firing of fayetteville. when the confederates were on pea ridge, they did burn arkansas college. >> jonas tebbit was a union man as i said before. alexander asbath came to fayetteville, he proclaimed he was going to liberate fayetteville for the union and all the union some devices would come out and protect them. he wanted a union flag to put up on the town square. some people knew that jonas had a flag of the united states of america. they sent him to the house here

and jonas gave him a flag. he put it up on the town square. jonas also invited the general and to have dinner at his house and to make this house his headquarters, thinking that the general was going to be here for a while. the general did come to the house and dined with the tebbit s. three days later he was called back north, leaving the town again open to whichever army came through. the next army that came through was the southern army and general ben mcculloch from texas sent his soldiers and knocked on the door. he told jonas tebbit's he was under arrest for being a traitor to the confederate states of america. jonas was taken down to fort smith or he was going to be tried and hung as a traitor for having the union flag, for supposedly not accepting confederate money, for allowing

a union general into his house. many people wanted to help jonas tebbit as much as they could. members of the confederate army, even. they were working with the union army to try to get him released. there was a union jailer who sent a letter to matilda tebbetts, saying that he would do everything that he could to help jonas and to make his stay comfortable. he was sure everything with turn out all right, but while jonas was an fort smith in jail, the soldier would help to watch out for him. matilda was allowed to send one of their slaves to fort smith to needs as he was a gentleman. he was allowed to have a slave with him. matilda sent some messages through the slave. the slave was also allowed, by his status, to stand around and

absorb information he could pass on to jonas. in the meantime, general ben mcculloch was called up to the ridge and in that battle, he was killed by a union star sharpshooter. because of this, jonas was exonerated and the charges were dropped. he was allowed to come back home. he came back to the house. not long after that, not long after he got back, neighbor came and told matilda mrs. tebbetts, , there is a group of men who are confederate supervisors who are going to finish the job that ben mcculloch could not finish. matilda left the parlor where she was entertaining the neighbor and went and talked to jonas. jonas came in, said hello, and walk. down the front he waved goodbye to matilda, got

on his horse, and quietly road out of town. just past the confederate lines, he spurred his horse on and headed up to the union line. once he was there, he shared information about what he knew about the area and the people in the area and never lived in this house again. the information that we have is from the oldest daughter's journal, which was actually her memories that she wrote when she was in her late 80's, 90 years old. what she said was while jonas was in prison in fort smith, the confederate soldiers came and demanded the drapes and carpets to be used as blankets and saddle blankets. instead of just instead of just giving it to them, matilda had the slaves take them down, beat out the dirt, full them nicely, and give them to the army.

matilda hid any hard feelings that she had. she did wear several pieces of gold coins sewed into her undergarments in case the family had to flee in the middle of the night. she was gracious in all that she did. when jonas had left after he was exonerated and he left the state, matilda was here by herself with the children. eventually the union army came back. the union army watched over matilda. when they were going to be pulling out again, they told her, we are leaving and you should go with us. could and up what she she was leaving the next day. it just so happened that jonas came in with a message to deliver to the general here or the officer in charge.

he was able to leave with his family. here in family left october of 1862, they took what they could and left. they went and they found a home in missouri. then they went and found a home. actually, they traveled through the isthmus of panama california looking for a home. there, abraham lincoln was assassinated. they decided california was not the place for them. back and tried wants to come back after the war to fayetteville. changed.st too the people were changed. living was hard. this had been like a cultural center almost on the edge of the events it's of america just before you go into indian and wild west territory. it wasn't that anymore. they didn't feel good feelings

to stay in fayetteville. so they went and settled in kentucky and they never lived here. jonas did help some confederates to receive their pardon after the war. he had some communication with the people, but not living here. >> you can watch this and other programs on the history of communities across the country at c-span.org cities tour. onlyis american history tv on c-span3. this week on real america, on the case, a rarely seen 20 minute documentary about the 1968 poor people's campaign. here's a preview. [video clip] >> 50 years ago in the spring of 1968, an estimated 3000 protesters came to washington dc and set up camp along the national mall.

they were seeking economic justice and called it resurrection city. they stayed for six weeks. had arrived from across the united states and what was called a poor people's campaign, an effort that was originally organized by dr. martin luther king before his assassination in april 1968. the events were documented by producer edward scheer and a rarely seen 20 minutes film titled "on the case." anne, thank you for being with us. it chronicles the division between black and white america. how did your husband put it together and what do you think the audience will take away after watching? >> and putting it together, he and his colleague spent eight weeks and 27 hours of tape recording andce filming.

they went to mississippi. they filmed the buses. and all the way through the resurrection city. use of the audiotape rather than an interview on camera, my husband felt would make people more willing to express what they really felt because they wouldn't be tied to a voice and a face and an individual. it would be anonymous. we've got spectators out here. we've got some so-called white liberals out here. we've got the bloggers was he out here, but it ain't nothing man. what these people do when they go back to the homes, then we find whoever is outside. these are like to say days where we walk the muddy roads of mississippi to the muddy roads of resurrection city.

tose are those who decided make their bodies and their brains and their flesh and blood the dream of martin luther king jr. >> watch the entire film on "reel america" sunday at 4:00 p.m. eastern on american history to the only on c-span3. >> because the airplane had captured the public's imagination, there were many men who go into that part of the war. chief among them was quentin roosevelt. quentin roosevelt was the youngest of teddy roosevelt's sons. teddy roosevelt was a passionate supporter of world war i and encouraged his voice to fight at the front. kermit and theodore as well. ofntin is shot down in july 1918. we have a letter from roger kipling who lost his own boy in france in 1915, consoling teddy roosevelt about the loss. kipling doesn't want to say he's dead, but kipling knows he is.

nonetheless i believe you now and i know how hard this is. as it turns out, quentin had been shot down. by can see in the scrapbook eleanor butler roosevelt that this captures the scene. many american soldiers would go to this and take pictures. there are other groups of soldiers around it because quentin roosevelt, when he died, it was famous. it was front-page news across the nation because teddy roosevelt lost his son in a very painful way. it's indicative of two things. this war touched all americans whether you were early or working-class american. it touched the equally -- whether it touched equally as a -- is a longer conversation. it demonstrates the front reality of the war for millions of millions of soldiers. tens of millions die at the front and quentin roosevelt is one of the larger group of people. this burial is demonstrative also of this idea of moralizing

the war in some way and the contributions they have made. ♪ and we are back live now with more from the gettysburg college civil war institute annual summer war conference. up next, a round table discussion on the memoirs of ulysses s. grant. while we wait for that to start, let me remind you that you can watch all our coverage of the gettysburg civil war institute annual conference any time by visiting our website at c-span.org/history. you can find our full tv schedule and view any of our programs in their entirety. to keep up with the latest on

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