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event on the 19th on russian efforts to corrupt american voting. thank you very much. >> saturday 10:00 and eastern on american history tv, live all-day coverage of the confederate icon topic from james madison university in harrisburg virginia. speakers include kristi coleman, ceo of the american civil war museum. and the museums historian john coffey. kevin walker, ceo of the shenandoah valley battlefield foundation, caroline jeannie purdue university professor, and james robertson officer -- author of the book after the war, the heroes, villains, soldiers, and civilians who changed america. watch the confederate's does
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make the confederate icon conference saturday morning on american history tv on c-span 3. the house energy and commerce committee on medications for testimony recently dropped federal communications commission or's the ftc members answered questions about upgrades to 5g technology. and the presidents twitter criticism calling action by the fcc sad and unfair. connect the subcommittee communications and technology will come to order >> this panel will now come to order i would look to think our witnesses for being here i recognize myself five minutes
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for a comment. welcome to this hearing on oversight for federal communications commission. today's hearing marks the first time in 28 years that the ftc has appeared before this subcommittee having been reauthorized by congress. i am delighted to welcome the recently reauthorized commission here today. the reauthorization effort reflects bipartisan support of the ftc and the important work to enhance public safety, technologies and strengthen our national security increase broadband deployment and protect consumers while processing is mac posturing innovation and the medication and marketplace. i hope today demonstrates the importance of being reauthorized into each of the commissioners articulating how the action benefits the organization, i know we could deliver the same bipartisan
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accomplishment for your colleagues while the fcc is charged with many important tasks one of the most critical roles in place revolves around public safety. from working to ensure that alerting technologies warn the public of impending emergencies to aiding in the restoration of communications network and services following emergencies the fcc is responsible for making sure that our communication system is there when americans are most in need of lifesaving information. this work is chartered to the nation's 911 service platform and with the seer being the 50th anniversary of the first 911 call we here in congress have been actively working with the fcc and the and cia to improve the country's 911 systems and facilitate the transition to the next
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generation 911 services. i look forward to hearing the fcc's work to improve connectivity for communicator that are in desperate need of improvement education and healthcare. promoting broadband access and closing the digital divide, where we all agree on the importance of bringing the benefits of broadband to all americans which is especially true in rural america. we included a number of bipartisan provisions from members of this subcommittee and members of the energy and commerce committee that will help the fcc in removing federal barriers for broad land broadband deployment. just last week, a hearing on rural broadband we heard from a variety of stakeholders on the impact of this legislation and
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i look forward to hearing more today on how the fcc has begun to implement the legislation. i look forward to hearing the commission's recommendations on how we can improve connectivity for communities that are in desperate need of improvements to their education and healthcare services. it is this committee's primary role to conduct oversight of all the programs and policies overseen by the fcc and i remain focused on our key priorities so that we could focus the work of this commission and at this time i yield the balance of my time for an opening statement.>> thank you very much chairman, this is the most important responsibility that we have on the subcommittee and certainly, we believe it is incredibly important that the commission
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which does such fine work in response to our concerns, so i commend the commissioners for your work and it's been my honor to work with every member of the commission and i would like to continue to do so at a strong capacity as possible. we have to make sure that we work and bipartisan cooperation on the issue which is so important so thank you chairman, i yield back the balance of my time.>> the gentleman yields back at this time i recognize the sub committee ranking member for five minutes.>> thank you for holding this very heavy and very long-overdue hearing and thank you to the witnesses for finally after nine long months coming before this committee once again. in the nine months since our last hearing the ftc -- fcc has expanded its track record of anticonsumer and anti- small business and anti- innovation policy. it seems at almost every opportunity the commission has children corporations over consumers and failed to uphold
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the public interest. in december of last year, the commission voted to eliminate net neutrality protection which is supported by the vast majority of americans from all sides of the political spectrum. the chairman's comments regarding the chicken littles who are concerned about the repeal to take a look at the public opinion polls who show the vast majority of his own party is opposed to the commission's action and these rules protect the consumers and small businesses as well as entrepreneurs and innovators and i'm happy to say that the senate has already passed a resolution restoring these rules and we hope that we could have a vote on our own bipartisan resolution here in the house. the rest of the agenda has done no better as they proposed cutting the lifeline program which is an essential communications post for millions of americans including
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veterans and seniors. the commission has made a series of decisions to encourage consolidation among broadcasters from eliminating the main studio rule to reinstating the discounts we getting these rules and proposing the change to congressionally establish national ownership. it seems that in each of these actions that they benefit the broadcast corporations and leaves the public worse off. the chairman claims he cares about rural bob band appointment and that the commission in the wireless carriers where they have wireless service deployed imposing this portion of mobility, a bizarre and odorous challenge process which requires rural providers to hire people to walk through cornfields and in backyards trying to prove the community doesn't have wireless service and if those companies can't afford to send people out that the commission would sue does make assume the communities are connected. how does this help 24 million americans without access to high-speed broadband?
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and in the same vein, how does making changes to this band making it less accessible deploying broadband and hard-to- reach community enhance the commission and this committee's shared goal of closing the digital divide? it doesn't so this commission's reckless actions on broadband data services and copper retirement was so corporate friendly that the white house's advisor for telecommunications policy recently said that they remain " concerned, however the streamlined regulatory requirements they place on federal departments and agencies which rely on services subject to this continuance in the untenable position of losing access to critical national security and public safety communications functionality. " how is the commission putting the convenience of carriers above our nation's national security and public safety needs? that is beside the impact that
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the policies have on schools, libraries, hospitals, small businesses, and competitors who rely on these services? what about americans privacy? the senator's office found that wireless carriers had been sharing real-time location data of hundreds of millions of cell phones with third parties without consent from their users which included sharing information with law enforcement agencies which used data to illicitly look up americans locations data without a warrant or due process and we don't even know the scope of the problem because the commission was asleep at the wheel and i understand that the commission is now investigating but how were you so in the dark on an abuse that was a widespread history practice? what confidence could the committee have that the commission will take the appropriate enforcement action against carriers who have so recklessly shared our location data without our consent? again and again, the commission has failed in their obligations to upload -- uphold public
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interest and has repeatedly sided with corporations over consumers. and waiting nine months to do this oversight hearing the committee has been complicit in the commission's actions by turning a blind eye and being derelict in responsibilities to provide oversight for the agency. i would add that while i'm pleased the commission issued a hearing designation order for the merger in doing so acknowledges the universal concerns about sinclair's honesty and candor i am extremely concerned that the president has waded into this issue. i hope chairman's can ensure is that the president's tweet won't cause the commission to change course or affect the proceedings of an administrative law jacking i yield back.>> the gentleman yields back, mister walden the chairman of the poll committee is recognized for five seconds.>> thank you madam chair and i would like to thank you for your leadership on
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these topics specifically, i want to thank you for highlighting the improvement of the 911 emergency alert services as well as outreach to seniority on the reauthorization as we've reauthorized the fcc for the first time in 28 years under the act. and i think this is the last time you were here mister chairman. the efforts for wildfire and hurricane response was focused on call routing and location accuracy and key priorities for all of us and we reauthorized the fcc for the first time in two decades so we appreciated the commission's input on our work and thanks to the hard work of everyone on the committee we were able to incorporate provisions from 18 bipartisan bills that now form a act ii that is now law. so we do try to work together whenever we can regarding these issues for the 18 bipartisan
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bills and i think we did 57 bills on opioids virtually all of which are bipartisan. i look forward to hearing about the f cc progress -- the fcc's progress. the commission has been very busy doing work on this act. we provided an extra $1 billion to fix some of these issues that were there in order to make sure that translators and fm radio stations could get their antennas moved or their equipment moved to free up that spectrum. the commission under your leadership and others successfully pulled off the biggest reverse auction in history that you brought to our attention mister chairman, the issue involving the illegality of the funds that came to the commission, you could not put them anywhere legally even though your predecessors did and so we fixed that which i think was important to take
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care of and i would like to thank you for coming to my district last month, we traveled around and we saw a health clinic and i want to commend the commission for the decision to lift the cap on the rural health medicine piece which made a huge and positive difference for our rural clinics so when you added $170 million over the quarter million dollar, you heard this firsthand when you are out there, meeting with the clinic, i appreciate the discussion we had with broadcasters. i think we got a taste for the congressional district in the country even though we never got of one county. we were there all day. commissioner riley and i had a conversation about the challenge facing our radio industry which i've some experience as my colleague say i've got a great voice for radio and a face for it to. they aren't very nice people. radio as you know was my original story and my father's as well which i think is an
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important part of our countries framework and fabric for sharing information and entertainment. carrying the same fate of newspapers unfortunately, never gaining the benefit of gras ownership under the commission for some 15 years and it's captured once again by regulations for another time. is been trapped in this constant time warp that regulations from the 70s to the 1930s for that matter have somehow worked through the present day or beyond some taking us back to the regime of the 1930s we will discuss the changing media landscape as well as well as other sectors that edge providers are disrupting. another example of why put this callout a year ago and then again a few months ago inviting the ceos for some of america's greatest innovative technology companies, please come out here to share with us before this committee their concerns as well as recommendations on the wide range of topics. the rhetoric around these issues
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is like a television show waiting to get the same old programming. we listen to the same falsehoods about ripping away net neutrality but we restored framework that is part of the industry years ago. mom and pop startups found their way through regulatory framework that we would know now as facebook, google, netflix, you name it they grew up with this framework and not with the 1930s way we regulated telephones and in this committee room we've got the benefit of hearing our critics speak out loud which is unlike other approaches of voices who speak to destroy our discourse. if you let your views be known, i started to let you and your families no. on the right or the left somewhere we've got to get back our humanity where we are not shouting or threatening each other but instead we're trying
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to work our differences. we do this often in the committee and will continue to do so. madam chair, thank you for this hearing and i yield back the balance of my time.>> i recognize the ranking member of the full committee for five minutes.>> thank you madam chairman. the center communication commission is a independent agency created by the cannibal congress. we gave the agency broad powers and responsibly to protect consumers and advance competition and promotion of universal service and reasonable rates. work in the public interest. work in the it's hard to ensure the commission's actions advance those goals and tol holds the te chairman and accountable when agency does not. unfortunately the majority of the committee has been unwilling to follow through on its promise to hold quarterly oversight hearings and this is the first oversight hearing in nine months and only the third in this congress. the commission has acted contrary to its core mission in
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the partisan votes the agency dismantled protections for consumers and initiated numerous >> the agency dismantle protections for consumers and initiated numerous proceedings designed to benefit big corporations to the detriment of working-class americans and working communities. the most controversial decision was the elimination of the net neutrality rule. protecting consumers and small businesses and protecting free speech. chairman ignore the vast majority of the 24 million comments from individuals and businesses recording -- reporting that neutrality. it's not surprising that his order faces massive consumer opposition. public outrage from start up companies, working families, educators and healthcare professionals, veterans and so many others at the town halls and community centers have driven congressional action and made the controlled senate passed legislation which would reinstate net neutrality. ranking member doyle is not championing that legislation in
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the house. i urged speaker ryan to bring this legislation up for a vote within bipartisan members to sign them petition -- sign the petition. the regard for consumers is not in there in a time with other agencies stepping up. stepping up against violence. the fcc wants to rollback rules which limit advertising to children and require educational programming for kids which doesn't make sense. if the agency was serious about focusing on the consumers it would want to help parents searching for quality educational programming and shield children and not make them easier targets for big businesses. another example of siding with corporations over consumers, german pies changes for the f cc ownership protection undermining competition, localism and diverse viewpoints in favor of corporate consolidation while the commission rightfully
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acknowledges the proposed merger and related divestitures may violate the law but the rollback for the media ownership rules opens up the doors for the next. universal service critical of the most vulnerable populations has been undermined -- undermined. the proposal to provide lifeline programs is particularly egregious in its example. approximately 8.3 million people. either single mother struggling to get by, veterans searching for jobs, seniors on a fixed income, they are at risk of being left behind. the fcc should be looking at ways to help these struggling participants within the economy and community and not just cut them off and while the commission has worked to update the emergency alert system advanced next generation 911 and implement this it's fallen short in making cyber security a priority. the agency has retreated from the efforts of previous administrations at a time when
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cyber criminals, foreign and domestic are becoming more aggressive in the communication today in the network for the next business consumer and government agencies, these networks drive the modern economy so the same networks provide a target for cyber attacks by criminal gangs and nations as the agency charters promoting public safety and the ftc should work with and encourage companies to develop the best practices to address vulnerabilities and prepare for cyber security attacks. the fcc is shirking its responsibility and congress should be conducting more oversight so i want to thank the chairman and commissioners for hearing before us today and we look forward to your testimony and now i yield back madam chair.>> that includes -- that concludes the member opening statement i would like to remember this mike i would like to remind members that the statements will be made part of the record. we will try to get through our opening statements before the votes are called around 1:40. i would like to thank all of
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you for being here today, today's witnesses will have the opportunity to give their opening statement and it will be followed by a round of questions from members, our panels today include chairman pye, commissioner o'reilly, commissioner carr and commissioner rosen. we appreciate your here and that your testimony has been submitted on time and we will go in order of seniority which is the tradition in the subcommittee so i begin with you today chairman pye, you are recognized for five minutes in your opening statement.>> thank you members of the subcommittee and for holding this hearing i appreciate the chance to update you on the fcc's work. before i do, i would like to think the subcommittee for its vital assistance. act of 2018 which originated in this subcommittee contained a host of provisions already having a positive impact on the
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fcc's work. perhaps most importantly, correcting a technical problem involving deposits with respect to auction. the fcc is moving forward aggressively to hold options moving substantial amounts of high-end spectrums into the commercial marketplace. where commencing the figure for the stand auction followed immediately by the 20 gigahertz stand. we intend to hold an auction of spectrum at 37, 39, and 47 gigahertz band. combined at these auctions we will make almost 5 gigahertz of spectrum available and advance the global leadership within the next generation of continuity. this would not have a policy -- possible without the subcommittee's leadership. closing the digital divide, yesterday the fcc kicked off its net america fund phase 2 river oaks does make reverse auctioned -- -- reverse
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auction. earlier this year we dedicated $500 million in additional funding to assist small carriers deploying rural broadband and proposed over one -- $1 billion to improve communication networks in puerto rico and in the virgin islands. following the devastating hurricane season and we boosted the promise by extending funding in our rural healthcare program by 43 %. funding aside we are monitoring our rule cutting through the regulatory state and making it easier for broadband providers to prevent the next-generation network and have exempted small sales from the federal historic preservation and environmental review processes designed for traditional cell towers. we've updated our business data for business regulation and have reformed our network transition will -- rule to make
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it easier for the resilient works of tomorrow. making it easier and cheaper including competitive entrance to give access to utility poles with one touch proposed by the implement advisory committee and have returned to the successful regulatory framework under which the internet flourished in the united states from 1996-2015. i am pleased to report our policies to promote broadband deployment is working. according to a study in 2017 more commercial buildings in the united states added fiber connections than in any year since at least 2004. according to figures released today it appears broadband network investments in the united states increased by between $1.5 billion and $3 billion in 2017, reversing the decline that occurred over the last two years of the prior administration. the increased investment is
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having a tangible and positive impact on american consumers. i will give you an example, details as a small internet service provider, because of recent policies it committed $4 million to purchase equipment and services to upgrade its core and enable wi-fi calling to vermont rule subscribers and begin rolling out mobile broadband to start the transition. the detail concludes that it's quite optimistic about the future with a significant reason for our optimism. we are on the right track and i am confident we will continue to see more positive results in the months to come as more policies take hold. i'm pleased about the amount of a partisan cooperation seen here , fewer than six % or one in 16 of our over 100 votes have been party lined. there will be times when we
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disagree of course but my hope is that this debate will be based on fact consistent with the laws and grounded in reality. i will close on a personal note, i love this agency and i've worked at the fcc for the majority of the past 11 years as a staffer then in appointee. it's been an honor to lead the commission over the last 18 months and the major reason why is because i get to work alongside and have gotten to know the fantastic staff at the fcc, they raced to work to help. strive to make technology available to those with disability and devote countless hours to represent our country abroad and more. and as for me, these decisions are challenging and they have not always been favorable but as i've got the privilege of serving, i'm going to find the facts and follow the laws and call them as i see them.
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chairman blackburn, members of the subcommittee, thank you once again for holding this hearing and i look forward to answering questions and continuing to work with you and your staff in the times to come.>> mister o'reilly you are recognized. >> thank you chairman blackburn and raking member doyle and the members of the subcommittee to engage with these issues. i would like to thank representative lance and collins and their cosponsors and many on the subcommittee for the leadership on this act. under chairman trent's leadership we've made strides in determining unlawful activity. without tools provided by congress you could only go so far to eliminate this harmful practice. i would like to highlight today some critical issues that have been a focus of mine. i firmly believe that the ongoing problem of 911 data version by certain states and territories must end once and for all. on disputing ratepayers, it's a
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consequence to the community and the public in need of critical emergency assistance the ninth annual report of this committee which will on self reporting in states and territories showed $135 million away from 91 enhancement. seven states and territories figured out that instead of being labeled a diverter they would rather just not submit the necessary paperwork. a previously self-admitted diverter which failed to respond to the conditions data collection and corey. the sufficient public record information supported finding it's a substantial diverter of funds for nonpublic safety purposes. there's good news reported that in several states and territories they've clarified the reported diversion or made commitments to prevent a reoccurrence including illinois, new mexico, oklahoma, and puerto rico.
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i suggest additional federal action such as legislation proposed which is necessary to address the states like new york and new jersey and rhode island and guam to identify. the commission is focusing on every taking -- taking every step to provide americans with access to broadband services and the commission's efforts to be examined in parallel with programs by other federal agencies. congress allocated last year's consolidated appropriation act in 2018, an initial $600 billion for broadband pilot programs to be administered for the utility service within our u.s. being considered as part of the senate and house farmville. the efforts to provide us with new federal money is commendable as there is the potential for certain problems to arise. there's this significant possibility to programming which could be used for subsidize areas which have
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broadband providers and competition with those who currently receive subsidies or may have buildout plans to require them to write it out in the future. the program could be used to allow providers their favorite institutions about costly nearby areas. it should be targeted to address the 14 million+ americans without any broadband today. i would humbly suggest that the proper direction from the subcommittee within a bad outcome, the policy includes this fall and i hope you will consider additional safeguards regarding other programs and a focus on those who are truly unserved. turning to spectrum policy, the commission has been hard at work ensuring that the spectrum is available for the next generation of wireless services. i recognize there was a need for wireless carriers who offer these services nationally and internationally.
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the speed band downlink, and attractive opposition for this purpose providing significant spectrum reducing their spectrum footprint using a market-based spectrum reallocation reproach -- approach. they recently noted the commission that the six gigahertz band is necessary to address the need for more on license spectrum and must be part of the rules and i would like to think the subcommittee for holding his hearing and i look forward to answering the questions you may have. >> the gentleman yields back mister carr you are recognized. microphone please. >> thank you members of the subcommittee for the invitation to testify. i have had the honor of working with you and your staff and the commissioner for nearly one year and it's been a rewarding and
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productive time and i'm proud of the work that the agency has accomplished and i would like to commend the subcommittee on its notable achievements from identifying additional spectrums in the act and enhancing public safety and encouraging broadband deployment including the precision act. at the fcc i focus on work that we could do to help bring more broadband. this has meant working closely with my colleague at the commission and it's about spending time outside of the agency regarding policies as how they impact communities across the country. over the past 11 months i visited 17 states and benefited from perspective gained on the road weather at town hall or in chelsea michigan or a roundtable in nebraska or at the kitchen table with families who wanted better and asked for broadband. i spent time with construction crews doing the hard and often
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gritty work to deploy broadband network. in arcadia indiana, susan brooks and streeters me -- introduced me to to brothers who run a small wireless provider, a scrappy bunch having climbed everything from barns, grain elevators, catching the antennas needed to bring broadband into indiana's farmland. i have seen similar efforts across the country. only underscoring why the work of this subcommittee and the fcc is so important. we want every community to get their fair shot of the next generation one year ago i noticed the challenge that we faced, extending american leadership in wireless moving from four gigs, five gigs network. i testified about the need to focus on two things spectrum infrastructure. the commission has made substantial progress on both
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and i would like to focus this afternoon on the second portion of infrastructure. i appreciate the chairman asking to lead these efforts on the wireless infrastructure and have taken several steps to assure the regulatory structure is 5g ready. 5g networks will look different than the 3g and 4g deployment from the past. the framework that worked 400 foot towers won't work for new small cell deployment. we are working to modernize our approach we exempted small cells from certain purview -- review procedures. it's expected to cut about 30 % with one step causing deployment of small cells. it could put the business face for thousands of communities in rural areas which may otherwise miss out. the one place for increased deployment will payoff is healthcare. the fcc has supported broadband
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deployment to healthcare facilities but there is a trend now which supports connective pairs everywhere and the delivery of high-tech and high quality air is no longer limited to the confines of connected brick and mortar facilities with remote patient monitoring and mobile health application, we have technology to deliver healthcare and deliver it directly to our patients. i saw this two weeks ago in mississippi delta, ground zero for the diabetes epidemic, the delta is also a place where connective gear is artie making a difference. one woman noticed her signs of diabetes after seeing little progress with traditional care options she signed up for remote patient monitoring program and showed me the ipad and the bluetooth enabled blood glucose monitor and she cracked -- and she tracked her care on a daily basis.
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a app gives her feedback including the steps you could take that day to remain healthy. this technology has offered her to feel better. the research backs up her results. showing significant cost savings and the improved outcome of connective care, allying -- relying public policy. which is why i'm glad german pai asked me to lead this new initiative which will consider -- which will be considered at the august meeting. provides up to $100 million to support connective care point. i look forward to working with stakeholders as we receive comments establishing the program, thank you to the members of committee again for holding this hearing and i welcome your questions.>> the gentleman yields back. >> good afternoon, ranking
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member doyle and other members of the subcommittee. thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today, i believe the future belongs to the connected no matter who you are or where you live, you need access to modern communication at fair 21st century success clearing the way for the future would be at the heart of everything that we do at the federal communications commission and it's been nine months to the day since we last appeared before you for the oversight hearing which is a long time even going into the school year so let me offer you the equivalent. many americans still lack access to broadband and we put a number on it, 24 million americans don't have access to high-speed service which is not acceptable and we need to do better. too often during the last nine
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months this agency acted at the behest of corporate forces which surrounded changing -- changes around the american people you could see that clearly including the rollback of net neutrality with the deployment of new networks with the failure to engage those who need a voice in the policies and cities and towns which should be our partner in the process and tribal communities entitled to government consultation and the department of commerce which just last week expressed concern about how our reform could harm national security as well as public safety services and likewise you see this and proposed reforms which undermine our lifeline program and the populations which rely on this including those served by domestic violence shelters, military veterans, homeless youth, and the residents of puerto rico who are recovering from on harrowing storms -- from harrowing storms and a great humanitarian crisis.
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our mapping practices for broadband does not accurately reflect states of connectivity or on the ground. our claim that the agency suffered and distributed denial of service attacks following john oliver's report on our net neutrality plans is not credible. in the meantime, the agency has ignored the fact that the public docket is flooded with fraud. including have 1 million comments from russia, 2 million individuals with stolen identities, i believe these things need to be fixed. so many people think that washington is rigged against them which saddens me and on too many occasions in the last nine months, the agency proved them right. the good report cards not only look to the past but also offer ai to the future -- a look to
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the future. i believe at this table there's the desire to extend the region of broadband service and leave the world and 5g wireless deployment and bring the opportunity of the digital age with more people in more places and i see the same dire -- desire everywhere i go. i was in rural new mexico and urban new york, i visited schools with students who lack broadband at home and struggle with nightly schoolwork. there are 12 million children in every state across the country with this problem. they fall into a homework gap which is the cruelest part of our digital divide and i saw that these communities are trying to address this gap so that every student has a chance at digital age success. experimenting with connected school buses looking to loan out hotspots in the library and exploring public wi-fi in the community and they deserve our support and the plan to address this gap so that no child is
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left off-line, i believe it is within our capability to do this. i would be remiss if i didn't mention the agency's recent decision regarding sinclair broadcast. when i appeared before you nine months ago i expressed concern about how the agency had bent and twisted its media policies to serve the business plans of this one company which changed last week when the agency adopted the order designating the proposed sinclair tribune transaction for hearing. i would like to thank my colleagues and the chairman in particular for the effort to reach a consensus on the matter. i will close by saying thank you for having me here at your hearing and i look forward to the questions you may have.>> i think each of you for your testimony and we will now move into our questions and i'm going to begin, i will recognize myself for five minutes. chairman pai i will come to you from the public safety point ,
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it's something we are focused on in the emergency alert, and our 911 systems. as you know, our ranking member was included in the act and it has been a good and solid bipartisan initiative to help with wi-fi resources bringing these the hearing and emergency. while the system is primarily a tool, we saw the really is -- the resiliency of the infrastructure and the aftermath of hurricane harvey and the widespread use of this alert. how will the addition of setting up wi-fi access points in times of emergency and in addition to carrier location information and other input help a device create more
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precise location information to better enable our first responders to reach those who are in need of the emergency help.>> thank you for this question and ranking member alone for your leadership on this legislation. a critical element of information first responders when a 911 caller is placed is where is the color? regarding wi-fi access points to introduce more details and information about where the color is, a combination of gps information and cellular information, wi-fi asked points -- access points could help them pinpoint exactly where the company is to dispatch help more quickly. i think it's interesting that companies are taking this step forward. apple announced in iowa that when corporate set of technology, one of our predecessors talked about the
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fact that the technology could use access points as well as under information -- other information.>> looking at states and locale base to use, you think that this is going to help?>> absolutely.>> encourage that? >> when you think about meeting help to people, one of the things that we reported on this issue, it was the next general 911, making certain that it is more reliable and more widely used. >> i will give you a quick example of why this is so, i did the office of communications that handled 911 calls, they are coming to the district, every year the district gets approximately 10 does emergency calls properly
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routed to maryland and vice versa. when marilyn gets 10,000 calls, the district gets a caller, imagine ubiquitous wi-fi access points which would allow emergency responders to know when they receive this call at the 911 call center that we are getting calls from the district, we don't waste precious sections does make seconds to figure out which district needs that call which could lead -- which could later save lives in a pinch.>> commissioner, i would like to come to you on something. i've worked for years on the privacy issue and i presume that you saw the letters that we saw -- that we sent. regarding the location information, i'm pleased that you are investigating this as well.
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as we are all concerned about protecting consumer privacy. and on this more broad topic, i received a letter from our friends at the electronic privacy information center and to quote from the letter, " it's clear the fcc has the ability to enact internet privacy rules, the fcc has the authority to regulate companies through ancillary jurisdiction. " do you agree with this assertion?>> no i do not.>> do you believe the telecommunications act section 706 or any other position does make revision gives authority to the fcc to regulate his providers?>> i do not believe it gives us this authority.>> you do not, thank you. i yelled back and i recognize mister doyle for five minutes.>> thank you madam chair, welcome back and it's good to see all of you.
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i would like to talk about rural broadband, the commission received a letter on july 23 from a group of 182 fixed wireless providers they noted that and i quote, without these licenses we would have virtually no ability to acquire protected spectrums within this band which would be an intolerable block to harm our businesses and inhibit our ability to grow and harm those millions of consumers for who mid band spectrum is the key to high fixed broadband access and i would note that chairman pai you tweeted that their parents are served by wade wireless and commissioner carr, you referred to the good work of the on-ramp indiana to serve brooks district. these companies were part of the 108 companies who had been to that letter so i would like
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to ask each of these commissioners which is a simple yes or no question, will you commit to maintaining these licenses in this band?>> i've delegated this issue to commissioner o'reilly recently providing a lot of analysis on this question so i don't want to presuppose what direction he would want to recommend for the full commission.>> would you commit to having this? >> we don't want to presuppose the results as we are still studying this issue and i'm looking at this issue along with commissioner o'reilly.>> commissioner o'reilly he's dump this on you, what do you say?>> i like the direct answer, i don't agree but i like it. >> i haven't made my decision up yet on how to proceed. >> we will need smaller license sizes if we want wireless providers through rural america.>> one yes, one undecided, one no, and one
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ascension or? are we still looking at the issue? >> undecided.>> we have not reached the endpoint. >> chairman pai i mentioned in the opening statement that many stakeholders including the government are concerned about your plans regarding the discontinuance of service with changes to the market, in place of our national security operations in these untenable positions so are you concerned in addition to the potential loss of service that some customers are telling us they've had their bills increased by 175 %, i'm concerned that not only putting the carrier's interest over the public's but it is endangering public safety, national security, and it's leading to a -- and it's leading to a huge rate increase for those who have the service how do you respond?>> congressman, i was
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thrown off their. >> is that a phone ring? >> it is. >> mister olson is trying to play with new technology. >> guilty as charged.>> the gentleman apologizes and it's excepted. >> thank you madam chair. >> could you address the concerns we are hearing about this market?>> i will try to address those interned. we welcome the submission which is part of the reason why we've got this open process to take public input. looking at the overall tenure of the letter it's supportive of our approach. we want to take these concerns into account. overall, the price increase that you described, it's the reason why it was important in the order last year to preserve the authority under section 201
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and 202. as well as the ability to complain directly to the fcc. we adjudicate any complaint that we get about prices that may be in violation of our rule. and if you look at the overall gist of our media approach, the notion is that price regulation deterred by deployment. if you are the owner of that infrastructure and there is heavy price regulation you would have less incentive to build out additional infrastructure. if you are a competitive interest you would be less likely to build the infrastructure of your own. why would you? we put our fingers on the scale and price regulation. also promoting an incentive to get more fiber out which the result speaks for itself. for the first time over 50 % commercial buildings in the united states are connected with fiber and we want every
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one of these buildings to be connected through fiber which we think it's a market-based approach to determine and it's the right way to go.>> let me ask you another question, you're aware of the letter for the fcc regarding the real-time location data and the companies secure technologies. and on may 18, the senator called on you to recuse yourself from the investigation based on previous work have you recused yourself?>> i have not. >> did you get an opinion from the ethics office as to whether you should reduce your self?>> yes i did. >> mister walden you are recognized for five minutes. >> i appreciate again, the commissioners being here. i believe we sent a letter to the company regarding this issue. we all care for privacy and data location issues. it's something with pursuit for some time. chairman fcc -- chairman pai it's switch to electronic band. it's our understanding that the
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cable companies depend on this for content distribution for 100 million thousand which is lots of people in every state or congressional district. a challenge to ensure noninterference is to know the exact location of hundreds of potentially thousands of register to receive, what is the commission doing to identify the location of these and ensure they are protected from harmful interference? and what steps has the commission taken to balance these goals to ensure that we win the race for 5g which requires mid band spectrum and the perfection that these cable companies depend upon.>> i think you put your finger on the goals we need to pair in this proceedings. we try to address the concern that you identified in a few different ways, we reduced the fees required to file some of these reports and additionally
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extended the timeframe by 90 days october 17 is when the deadline is for reporting in addition we recognize some of these entities are smaller and may not have the resources to compile the full study required traditionally so it's important to streamline the process to get as much information as they can within the record and we are confident that steps like these will enable us to get us a more robust level of participation in order to make a fully informed decision about the appropriate disposition. >> thank you. as you've heard from many members of both sides of the aisle, we need to do more as a country to connect each other with high-speed data and broadband connection and what can you tell us about the work that the fcc is doing today to close this initial divide? what should we look forward to going forward and what do you need from us?
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>> i appreciate the question, we are doing a lot, i don't want to use the remainder of your time but i will say with the two critical tools in the toolbox we have, modernization of a regulation, and the wiser distribution of universal service -- service funding we are making major steps toward the divide. the program that started yesterday, the reverse broadband reverse option, the $4.5 billion mobility fund started next year. i could tell you when i'm on the ground, they are not small. this is one of the things that american people understand, especially in rural communities where it's hard to attract specialists like my parents, it's very difficult in some cases, the only way that some of these people in rural communities could get adequate healthcare is through telemedicine and you saw the response for yourself as did i
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at the health clinic in oregon when they heard the news that we were proposing they increase by 42 % the budget for the rural healthcare program and they broke out in applause as they recognized this was a lifeline literally for some of these communities. pendleton and hermiston are big cities in your district. but there are other towns that will never see a specialist so i'm proud of the funding we taken on the funding side. in terms of modernization we done lots to promote infrastructure in rural areas making it easier to build towers for example in rural areas or lay fiber in places where there may not be places for deployment. i stopped in baker city oregon where they said the steps we are taking in terms of making this easier to gain access or get more spectrums, those are the tools necessary for smaller companies in particular, the ones that don't make headlines that no one knows about. these are the things that will help close the digital file.>> 5g as it rules out, -- as it rolls out what do we need to do
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there? >> regarding spectrum and infrastructure i outlined the steps we were taking to move quickly. i came from some conferences where i could tell you that counterparts abroad are interested and envious, we are in the lead in terms of spectrum leadership and as far as infrastructure goes, commissioner carr has done an able job, we need to think nimbly and progressively about how to monetize -- modernizer regulations. sparsely populated cell towers are fading away. the era of the small cell, hundreds of small cells being deployed here. our regulatory approach needs to be as nimble as the industry we are seeking to regulate. >> my time has expired, meta- chair thank you for having this hearing and the commissioners for your participation.>> the gentleman yields back, the votes have been called. mister pallone will ask his question and i will move to
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recess the subcommittee until we have returned from the vote. mister pallone are recognized for five minutes.>> thank you madame chairman. i was glad to see the commission vote regarding this transaction for the administration to review. i've long had serious concerns about this merger including the agreement that sinclair used to try to hide the scope of the transaction. we wrote two weeks ago to ask them to review how these sham agreements affect localism and diversity and competition. last night the president tweeted and i quote, " those sad and unfair that the fcc would not approve the merger with tribune. this would have been a great and much-needed conservative voice for and of the people. liberal fake news in dc and comcast gets approved much bigger but not sinclair. disgraceful. " le-quote. the only thing i find distasteful is that they try to undermine the integrity of
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dedicated journalists wildly simply trying to amplify his message at the expense of local news across the country. so what we just ask yes or no if i can ask you do you agree with the president, yes or no? >> i stand by our decision. i think the hearing designation -- >> i do not agree with that. >> i know we only have three minutes, given the presidents solicitation of the merger, you commit to ensuring that a comprehensive and thorough review conducted by the alj insulated from the president or anybody reporting -- yes or no? >> we have already issued an
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order. and understand that it is the purview of the administrative law judge. >> you're going to assure that a comprehensive review is conducted by the alj? >> we should note >> has the president discussed this with you or anyone at the secretary, do you commit to disclosing that in the public document? >> yes we have ex parte rules about specific proceedings. we are limited to what information we receive and what we can put on the record. that is pursuant to ex parte rules. >> the president said he wants a conservative voice. that's what concerns me. i don't and you're supposed to make decisions on what a conservative or liberal might be.
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is the secretary considered an secretary -- a liberal or conservative viewpoint, do you care whether it is a conservative you are not? >> i think the answer that i gave in december as a nominee, you can look at the fact, and apply the law. and make a decision that is in the public interest. >> how would you help if we are not looking at this from an ideological point of view, which the president is trying to achieve. the secretary unanimously approved to -- or lack of candor to the commission about the merger. whether he is lying to the commission -- making misrepresentations. without commenting on the -- will the commission conduct a factual inquiry, with the lack of
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candor regarding -- at the time of the renewal, yes or no? >> congressman, the issue has been referred to the alj. i can't comment under advice of our general caution -- general counsel -- from the issues that were -- >> so the answer is, would you like to add anything to that? >> i would point out that we have raised issues about the candor of the company before the secretary and the misrepresentations they made in the context in the documents. i think there are serious issues about the qualifications to the extent that they have been identified as a problem here. and open for investigation under other context. >> thank you. >> the committee stands and
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recess. -- in recess.
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commissioner o'reilly, in order to be the first -- unique set of -- that is why ranking member -- airways act. it is my understanding that no matter how ambitious the schedule is, the technological competitiveness -- in a timely fashion. the ftc auction -- if so what effect does that have on the commission's ability to keep up with the rest of the world to bringing more -- to the market. >> i don't know that it is out of date or what it should not be. the question from senator doyle -- part of the reason -- there
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was not going to be an actual auction that we would conduct. it is a sealed bid for 74,000 licenses. we were not able to run with the software. people have asked for -- don't have the capability to run all of those. i appreciate the work that they have done but in terms of what we are capable of doing, it is much more advanced. >> thank you. other members of the commission have thoughts? >> we all know that we want to leave the world in a wireless economy. i think it is a shame how your
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craddick auctions will allow us -- bureaucratic auctions will allow that to be an impediment. >> i couldn't agree more. a few months ago i testified before the senate -- we were upgrading our i.t. infrastructure to be much more -- >> the commission has had a -- in enterprise wireless alliance -- to your credit you put the items out last august. that is for the commission to decide. as we approach the one-year mark, mr. chairman, you noted
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these. posed rulemaking -- >> thank you for the question. i am working with my staff in drafting proposed rulemaking. >> thank you very much. mr. chairman, from a global competitive's perspective, -- at the same time we want connectivity to rural america, as well. more needs to be done. four a wireless, underserved, often rural area. for the last few auctions, $6 million has been used to find -- it would not come from taxpayers. do you agree that
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this would provide a creative solution to the challenge for the role -- >> i commend you for your leadership on that issue. i gave a -- my agreement was to direct the money to the rural broadband -- >> thank you i want to continue to work with all members of the commission. i apologize for leaving, we are on the ethics committee and have to leave now. it is not about you. it is not about me, either. i want you to know that i commend the work of the commission, it is one of the most important parts of the federal government. >> thank you madam chair.
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it is great to be here today with these folks. it is good to see you back on the commission. i appreciate the time you came into iowa to talk about rural broadband. i am happy to have the opportunity to have all of you here to testify because i am eager to discuss how we can build out rural broadband in iowa. and how we can improve -- data. to ensure we are getting resources to the right places. i know you know that i worked on a bill with representative costello here, the rural wireless act. it was passed into law earlier this year and it directs you to
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collect wireless coverage data to accurately reflect wireless coverage. when you were in northwest iowa, you were -- i like to say the better data means better math and better policy. this isn't only about cell phones. global broadband is important that lack broadband services. with the passage of the rural wireless act, we are saying that we need to get better maps and better data. i'm sure you know that the fcc will have 180 days -- to promulgate regulations in accordance with the act. nothing really is stopping us from doing that now. i think it could be released sooner. the auction will send more than
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$4 billion out the door. primarily to rural areas. to me this is a real missed opportunity, we have to act now. the fcc has heard from industry that we need better maps. we have heard from congress that we need better maps. the work to create them has not happened. i think there is frustration out there about that. i understand the commissioners agreed to -- to push -- to allow the current data process to continue. i am concerned that because of the burden that the fcc data may not be fixed. i can tell you rural america needs is broadband funding as quickly as possible i think we all agree with that. i think the commission could take this time to make the reforms called for by the rural wireless act.
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commissioner rosenworcel said that too often the procedures fall short of what is required. it does not accurately reflect the state of connectivity on the ground. i think that is right. my question to you, when working to advance big government, it makes sense to the fcc to move forward isn't working or should we be making a real overhaul necessary -- >> we have a problem with wireless service in rural america. we cannot manage problems that we can't measure. right now the fcc is not -- for wireless service. they are asking providers -- the process of testing the data is cumbersome, difficult and long.
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it entails heading up accounts, downloading 60 pages of information and walking around with multiple handsets to every half kilometer and taking down information about singles death signals -- signals and uploading that. this is very burdensome. as result, i am a worried -- i am worried about the mapping. >> i will give you that opportunity. >> when i came into office in january 2017 -- any carrier could use whatever they wanted to provide whatever information they wanted. i wanted to -- that is why under my leadership we started -- one time data collection --
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standardized set of rules. we extended the deadline for the process -- we brought in the categories, not just rural carriers but local governments. our own staff has done a lot of road shows. and a number of webinars. to allow companies an easier way to pinpoint -- all of the steps are complex. unless something is better than nothing. we are making progress. everyone will be able to get coverage, it is very hard and dirty work. >> thank you, we will be in
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touch, i promise. >> broadband -- >> welcome, everybody. i want to start with commissioner o'reilly. it is hard to talk about that when it will be good again -- we worked on the 911 -- i want to publicly thank you for that. i have been named to the farm bill -- my pitchfork is out. but one of the things that we want to -- one of the reason
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that i am on their -- how can we get the fcc in the ncaa to work together so that we are not duplicating functions or working together -- just talking about rural broadband. that was part of the discussion, i am looking for advice, consultation for that. [ multiple speakers ] >> extensor provisions in the house farm bill, the pilot program -- they all have the potential to provide duplication with the fcc. >> you have done a wonderful job of working with the agency.
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they will talk to us -- [ multiple speakers ] we know what the limitations are. we are trying to find and iraq it ties -- and i reckon guys that it is less -- unfunded household is not our primary concern. and we have coordination throughout -- >> i appreciate that. if i have time i can open it up for other folks. address on the deployment,
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rightsizing the rules, not reinventing the wheel, putting up five g, can you talk about in the commission so far, what has been done. >> thank you. thank you for your leadership on these issues. we have a lot of great ideas. 5g is ongoing, winning the race means getting connectivity in new york, it's thousands of other communities that need their fair shot at 5g. a good portion -- one of the good challenges there is how do we make it economical everywhere. the regulations were really designed for 200 foot towers.
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and putting in updated -- it makes a difference in extending 5g everywhere. >> in our language, we are directed to federal property in -- there is a perceived concern by municipalities that you could -- and you guys are rolling out 5g, have you had any of those debates or discussions or what are your thoughts? >> a lot of really good productive meeting with local elective officials, i was in austin at the mayor's conference, there's an ugly cell that goes up somewhere in
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the local officials are the ones that gets the calls about it, not as. -- not us. >> i thought -- i wish we had more time. >> thank you very much. i want to make three comments and then discuss them. thank you for your help on this point number two, i do commend you for your decision on st. clair. we did it together, it was so important to do things together. if we have rural communities, we have to have local institutions and there's nothing more important than local news. then telehealth. that is a big opportunity for us.
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you can't assess something if you can't measure it. you can't make it universal unless -- unless you acknowledge it's a real problem. what congress said in 1996 required fcc to report annually on telecommunications capabilities being deployed to all americans in a timely fashion. in 2016, the deployment report said and you concurred with the, it was critical. you said the administration had failed to deliver advanced communication capabilities to the american people in a reasonable and timely fashion. you ask illicitly said it was not -- explicitly said it was
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not being met. in 2018, in the report, it is under your leadership, it was determined that the services were now being deployed in a reasonable fashion. you said in your statement that the current fcc is now meeting its statutory mandate to encourage the deployment of broadband on a timely basis. >> that is not what congress required. >> it is required to get the job done. i want to spell out some of the facts and you can tell me whether you agree or disagree. 24 million americans lack access to broadband. you agree with that or not? 31% of americans in rural areas lack access, do you agree with
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that? 44 million americans lacks assess to fixed broadband and mobile -- >> i'd have to double check that number. >> we are in agreement that there is a problem. i hope we are in agreement that is your job, fcc, all of you -- in listening to you, i have heard you talk about the benefit of the regulation and the elimination of neutrality, correct? let me be explicit. we could give you a patent and you could write a revocation of every regulation that exists, will will that provide the financial incentive for broadband carriers to build out on dirt roads in vermont and
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kansas and i will, where there's one house every half- mile. this is the central problem. that is my point. that's why regulation won't get it done when there is no market. >> i put that in my testimony. because of these regulatory [ multiple speakers ] >> thank you for bringing that up. what they said and that letter was they needed $4 million more per we have 100,000 people underserved in vermont. you didn't indicate the detail the assistance of the $130 million grant. that was public money that went
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into the broadband buildout. the fundamental question -- we've got to get rural america wired. it is more important every day that we do that it will not do that because of deregulation. we have to bolster a universal fund. we have local companies that are doing hard things and getting it done by local investors but our time is up. i applaud you for your work. this is a real, ongoing problem. >> madam chair, thank you for the fcc commissioner for being here.
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internet of things, ai, they are disrupting the markets and affecting her life. we need broadband connectivity to broaden our potential. are you using resources to learn more about how critical -- >> we are, congressman. personally, because of personal interest and obligations, and the fall of 2017, that is part of the reason why we will be hosting a forum later this year on the impact of ai and machine learning, in particular on the communication sector are. -- sector. they have obviously disrupted a number of industries. similarly, there are a number
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of other technologies, virtual reality and a vented reality, and blockchain, we need to make sure we are keeping track of these technologies. because of the depth and breath of these innovations. we have our own chief technology officer -- so we are aware of these changes. the transition so far has been tremendous but i think the next five years will be even more so. >> commissioner o'reilly, to identify -- by the end of 2022. >> don't forget about maryland.
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it is very important there. to your point on license. we will hopefully -- provide additional broad and -- broadband and also raise the question of -- we have reached maximum capacity. it will have to be a very big push. >> thank you. earlier this week the house passed an act and we have been hearing a lot of questions about rural broadband and
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access. this is a bar partisan -- bipartisan bill, we set up a task force identifying and measuring gaps and develop policy recommendations to promote rapid broadband. do you believe the commission -- >> thank you, i believe it is an important issue. there's an incredible amount of data in broadband. it is quite mind blowing. the drones that are taking -- need to find ways to get high- speed broadband to the farmers and ranchers.
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>> what degree would be needed to meet the challenge in agriculture? >> it will require a mix of technology. fixed wireless and -- we will have a lot of different technologies for that last mile to make it work. >> thank you madam chair. thank you for being here this afternoon. term and pike, -- chairman pi, regarding -- crashed the fcc website.
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last year during the hearing, you indicated that you would provide information -- in another hearing in october you said, and this is from the transcript, you provided detailed response to the committee and i would be happy to provide that to you -- the committee has never received, we have not received it. never responded to the question of the record to release the information to the committee. since then, we have heard information but we still have a lot more questions than answers and we are still waiting for a response. would you agree chairman pai that there something wrong with members of the committee to have them learn about issues from the press when we have
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been asking for them for more than a year? >> the complication with the office of general counsel -- he opined that we require a letter from the committee because of the sensitivity of the matter. additionally, i want you to know that we've been working with the accountability office -- as well as the secretary- general of the fcc and we have been for a number of months. we have been working with an investigative body. >> we expect the committee should have had this information. you were saying that the full committee or the subcommittee? who do you need the letter from? >> my understanding from the general counsel that has to be from the committee.
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>> does that mean -- >> madam chair can we talk to -- >> then i would like to continue. since there is some public information, will you commit to finally following up with the committee if you get this letter to provide us with the reports, request, memoranda, -- the fcc protocol for documenting and what steps you are taking to -- going forward. >> what i can tell you is that we've been working with the inspector general and they have been doing a fantastic job and working on the issue. i would expect him to issue more information on this in the near future. >> chairman pai, let me ask you about a letter that you were sent asking for investigation into the company
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improperly -- selling information to cambridge analytica. which i disagree with. we sent a follow-up letter asking for -- critical that the fcc enforced privacy protection in communication to the fullest six 10. when can we expect response to that and why did you decline to conduct an investigation. >> the agency is a creature of congress. in this case, there were two sets of authorities. these authorities extend to civil operators -- cannot exercise -- additionally, to the extent that you are asking about the company dish, and the aggregate, it does not allow --
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it is a recognition of reality under current law. it is expressly authorized -- we have a primary privacy cop on the beat and we want them -- >> i want to -- apprenticeship -- they were trying to figure out how they could get 5g deployment held up by not
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having the skill of people able to know -- i have 6500 jobs open -- some skill. it is easy to make a living wage if you have some skills. can you talk about things that you've worked with in this area and what the skill gap is? >> thank you for your leadership on this issue. in sioux falls south dakota, i will demonstrate my own skill gap. when you look at the deployment of the next generation of 5g, right now we don't have the workforce to do that work. we also see communities have
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the advantage when the connections are in place. there trying to give low income people the training and the job skills they need to take advantage of the digital economy. i don't know that there's more we can do on the apprenticeship site. >> thank you very much. we really want to reach out -- chairman pai, had -- my question is, you both brought it to our attention. do you see any other barriers -- [ multiple speakers ]
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>> i want to assure the subcommittee that -- we are so grateful to you for your leadership because i look at the lay of the land and we have sufficient authority with the exception of the budgeting to make sure that we -- >> i have another question. i think it is a question of oversight. and share that the auction -- >> also, for you, mr. o'reilly, as you know, would you like to elaborate on the needs of spectrum and what time frame
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you expect it or time frame you expected -- >> the predominant band that i mentioned -- are congested. we need to add more to the portfolio. six gigahertz is what i consider to be the second best option. we are working hard on that point. the subcommittee talked about it a little bit earlier. it is something that the chairman -- i don't want to get ahead -- 2
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>> i agree with what commissioner o'reilly said. we have got to be intentional about it. we need more wi-fi -- >> thank you very much. >> hopefully rewarding. when we learned about the vpn filter, and the russians -- the routers have been compromised. consumers know nothing about it. there wondering if they were affected and how to take action
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that the isps have a responsibility about known vulnerability? >> we do want to ensure that they have the information they need about security. legally i would have to look into it. i would hope that they would inform -- >> is the fcc doing anything to encourage isps to inform customers about this? of out there routers being compromised? >> i'm a little circumspect on this issue. i can't comment on things that might have some classification -- we would be happy to work with you. mac is the fcc doing anything to help customers understand the routers? >> we do monitor the equipment.
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we work with the industry to make sure -- >> do you think the fcc has a role to protect consumers from the cyber security threat? >> i also think our equipment authorization -- those routers have to be authorized and use radio frequencies -- they will notify consumers that malware or the risk -- >> the gao has committed to investigating -- i understand the new york attorney general is investigating, as well. at least 2 million of these -- are coming from russian email addresses. does the fcc -- is it your view
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that the fcc has been cooperating? >> we do not believe they have been cooperating with law enforcement agencies. 2 million people's identities were stolen, that is a federal crime. we should be referring these to the state attorney general. >> chairman pai, the fcc -- >> we have been investing -- we have been cooperating. in addition, i proactively have announced -- we would be changing our process to ensure that some of these issues -- 7.5 million comments, email generated -- those things don't happen. other potential solutions have been offered. >> i am still waiting for
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response -- reports about reports and memoranda and what you will provide. we hope you will provide that soon. >> we have been working with the inspector general with this. they will be issuing information. we require a letter from the committee -- >> is there anything that prevents you from speaking now? with that impact or proceeding? >> as i said, in consultation with the career staff and others, solutions like captcha and other mechanisms to -- this
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system that we inherited has an open process that anyone can participate in. again, respecting the integrity of the ssc process -- spc process -- >> i am concerned about the -- if adopted it will only further widen the digital divide. do you have any idea how this will affect veterans? >> i am the daughter of an air force veteran. there are 1.3 veterans who rely on the lifeline program. senator mccain and senator leventhal want to include the veterans program so that more veterans apply. they can re- acclimate to civilian life.
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it would be offensive if the agency tried to cut them off. >> welcome. chairman pai, i want to thank you for a thriving internet. you found out firsthand -- you persevered and senator graham --
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i want to thank you for coming down after hurricane harvey. i am hopeful that -- >> thank you. thank you for hosting me when i was in houston after hurricane harvey. there are a number of things that we are doing to make sure the restaurant -- the networks are going in. we have extended funding. we can refer to the networks as quickly as possible. a waiver to streamline orders so we can rebuild networks.
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additionally we have engaged -- a temporary license to google -- we don't care what technology is used to get people back on the grid, we want them to get back on it. we have been working to make sure the wireless emergency system is much more resilient. the bottom line is we are making sure that it is more targeted and more informational for the consumers. a lot of people don't think about this, 33 trillion gallons of water word dumped on texas. that had a huge impact on the area that always had copper lines in the ground. it degrades under water pressure. those areas in houston that had fiber were much more resilient.
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so i think it is important when you talk about -- there's a huge public safety benefit in having 911. all of these issues that we have been talking about -- >> thank you for all of those warnings and -- that was a big deal. thank you for making that happen. commissioner car, the fcc is finding new ways to reduce government red tape. verizon has just launched 5g.
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tell me how your -- >> thank you. i'm glad to see houston on the leading edge of getting five g. we want to replicate that across the country. we have a number of reforms that we have already undertaken. it will make a big difference if you are in a physically served area. and to follow up on your earlier question. i was looking at the harris county 911 system and all the great work that has been done in response to hurricane harvey. >> as you know, i spent nine years in the navy, a leader in the navy. you are the leader of the fcc.
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don't you think you should lead and climb up the cell towers as well? >> that was a curveball i was not prepared for. although commissioner car is younger and more nimble, i would not put my life at risk to climb a tower. >> madam chair and thank you to the panelist. i want to follow up on my session talking about six gigahertz. i understand your plan to move forward with the possibility of opening -- the six gigahertz band.
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what interference -- such as efficiency coordination to protect incumbents and allow unlicensed operations? >> those who have been interested -- you have put forward a study to show that the interference would be minimal. and they have recommended mitigation efforts. >> we do have an engineering study that my colleague referenced. we could put this out for rulemaking. great, thank you. last week, i announced that i'm working -- we are working to
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develop a consensus-based commission, distributed ledgers , particularly application for networks including iot deployment -- is being used as efficiently as possible. is there any common definition of blockchain. commissioner, what competitive that's what potential could blockchain -- >> that is so forward thinking. i pointed out that spectrum -- we need to come up with more efficient ways to distribute it other than traditional licensed -- using distributed ledger
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technology like blockchain could make that possible. we could see lightweight leasing and more innovative use. i think what you are describing is the right way to go. >> i want to move on to see band. is a potential core midrange band for next-generation network. the span -- particularly for 5g. unanimously approved -- commission has insufficient information on operations and may need to be protected. i appreciate the in crm getting information -- as well as the previous application. chairman pai, how is the work
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going to be -- to gather information on incumbent users. >> it is going well. we have extended the time -- we extended the timeframe by 90 days. 's with the end of the day, we have a much more robust picture of what their communication situation is and we will have a more informed opinion. 2 >> deploy the next-generation network -- i am interested in new ways to ensure it is efficient and innovative. opportunistic opportunity --
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leasing arrangements and commercial users. specifically i am interested in legislative framework that would further facilitate the opportunity for in cia to coordinate -- and allow agencies -- >> commissioner car, how do you believe additional arrangement -- >> thank you for the question and thank you for your long term viewpoint i think you're right, i think we need more options on the table. and get more spectrum out there. >> my work on this committee will focus on expanding access -- >>
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>> can you talk about the mapping issues. provided the funding -- how was that coordination effort going and the commercial data transition to --
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and in the meantime what we have done under my leadership of last year and a half is make sure that the information that we get is as granular and usable as possible. for all of the folks who need it, including congress and the fcc and others. >> i no you no and i think the other commissioners agree, and i appreciate what you said about how reinventing the wheel, this is not rocket science. we ought to be able to produce a map and we ought to be able to produce a map very quickly. but an accurate map is a starting point for solving this problem. and it's been an issue just dragging and dragging and dragging.
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whatever you folks can do to encourage and push that along, really, is important for rural areas. who are suffering with intellectual capital loss, you guys note that. we appreciate that. >> chairman pai cyber security is obviously an important cyber sick -- issue as well. which agency will take the lead on cyber security, i no the telecommunications industry works you tino -- routinely with the department of homeland security and conversations that occur with dhs are held in confidence and that is required by statute. obviously that kind of protection of information encourages sharing of critical and confidential information which we all agree is the best way to safeguard our communication systems. i understand. however that same statutory
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protection does not exist at the fcc. are you concerned that the fcc and dhs could work at cross purposes which may undermine cyber security? >> that is a great question, cyber security is a critical issue and it seems like every week there is a new story that draws our attention to that fact. i am happy to report that the last year and a half we have had a close productive relationship with the department of homeland security, in fact this morning i spoke with dhs about cyber security issues that have popped up. we certainly want to make sure we are on the same page there. our role under current law is to act in more of a consultative fashion with dhs who has the lead in terms of cyber security. should congress see fit to change the law, the only arguable portion would be section 1, which doesn't give us operative support there. as well as section 22. should congress change the law
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we would dutifully administer it to make sure our networks were secured. in time we will work collaboratively with dhs and other federal partners including the intelligence committee. >> and i can't get to questions in here but i'm going to try. 5g. the united states won the race with 4g. increased our economy according to some reports by nearly 100 billion, and 84% increase in wireless related jobs. because of that leadership the wireless industry supports over 4.7 million jobs and contributes 475 billion to the us economy. what should the fcc do to ensure that we maintain our global lead in 5g so that all those economic and if it's continue to occur in the us? >> exactly what we are doing.
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being aggressive on spectrum, holding the options -- in addition to looking at other bands, the 3.7, in terms of infrastructure we need to make sure that we continue to modernize our regulations, the construction and use of these small cells and other guts of the future fiber network, i can tell you our work is having an impact not just on my own -- to hear from regulators everywhere around the globe, from algeria, guyana, even trinidad to fiji telling us they are looking to the united states for leadership because as one regulator put it, you guys are doing it right and we follow your lead on the 5g issue. that is something that reinforces the fact that we are doing it right. >> lettuce no how we can help. -- s know how we can help.
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>> commissioner 27, nine months is a school year. it is also the length of time it takes for a child to come into this world so it's been a while. it's been a while and welcome back. i want to set the record straight on a couple of things first. it's been said that people are entitled to their opinions but not their own facts. it has been talked about here today that it is somehow fiction that my republican friends destroyed net neutrality and wiped out privacy on the internet. that is not fiction, it is a fact. on december 14 on december 14, 2017 the commission voted to upend the net neutrality rules that were in place.
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it has been tested -- contested in court but that has been rescinded. on march 28, 2017 that cra went sweeping through this committee, offered by our chairwoman, went through the committee, like a fire to the house of representatives. and we moved -- removed all privacy protections from the internet. i no what i voted on. obviously i voted no. others voted yes. but to say that these things somehow are a rumor, when people are referring to them, that is simply not fact. so i want to set that down. because i think it is important. mr. chairman i want to quickly follow up on congressman mcnulty's question, where he asked if the fcc was cooperating with law
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enforcement agencies, is that referring to the bureau or to the commission? >> i'm sorry, what? >> the investigation. the violations. is that a referral to the bureau to act on that or does the full commission act on that? >> if we are talking about the same thing the letter was referred to the office of general counsel. >> what does that mean? what i want to no is, has there been a referral height of what i want to know is has there been a referral to law enforcement, that is what the congressman was asking. have you referred these violations to a law enforcement agency? that is what i would like to know, yes or no. >> we have consulted with the
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department of -- >> no-no, has it been referred? for examination? have you asked for an investigation of it? >> it is not our role to administer title 18. >> i think you don't want to answer the question. i don't want to litigate it with you, i just want a yes or no. >> to the extent that we have your jurisdiction, we have worked with >> i think i no -- know what your answer is. i want to get to something and i don't have much time and it probably is going to be more of a statement than anything else. it has been said that we have 24 million americans that either have no broadband service or very slow broadband service in the country. shame on all of us. is there a five-year plan with the fcc on this?
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or does this belong in the private sector? do you need authority from congress at our subcommittee, other actions that the commission can take, when that is stitched together, we have issues every time the commission comes here. all of our subcommittee hearings, we go over and over and over and over this issue and it is not getting better. can someone enlighten me on this? >> so the commission has done a lot of work on this. >> i think we all have but i don't think we are making progress. >> we are working on what i would consider the median locations, there is an ongoing option now for the cascades and what is left over from that and from the remote, rate of return areas that don't get served is what want to be the hardest.
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>> so when will that get knocked out of the park as you describe it? >> in due time. it is 24 million only if you don't count the 10 million per day with 25 three. but we are working on the really hard remote areas, and we will need additional funding. funding that we don't have today. we will require contributions from congress and federal dollars, but the dollars went to other federal agencies. it is going to require additional contributions from -- >> thank you very much. i yield. >> thank you madam. chair, i appreciate so much and welcomed the commission, german thank you for coming to
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my area and speaking to my constituents, i appreciate it very much. trying 21, you were in the tampa bay area you were able to review -- chairman pai while you were in the tampa bay area you were able to review -- which is showing promise for better and faster rural coverage. at the same time the 3.5 the band is utilized by federal radar systems which is used by the navy and coast guard on the gulf coast, the border as well as other areas. the environmental -- has been created to ensure these federal uses are not interfered with while also allowing their spectrum within industry and preparing the 5g enable technology. this band provides a great opportunity for industry and competition as long as we ensure federal system security.
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what is the status of the implementation and interference sensitivity standard? >> thank you for the question, first and foremost thank you for the hospitality you showed me in tampa. i am excited about the possibility of 3.5 ghz spectrum in part because of the trial, to be able to see how charter is using and how others potentially could use this spectrum to provide a seamless high definition video, a very simple application but a very powerful one nonetheless. it is a critical part of that and i am happy to report that we are actively working with both in tia and the department of defense on the testing, the testing is very complex, i can't give you a definitive time frame on when it will be completed or what the results might show but we are working as quickly as possible to wrap the testing up to enable esc to allow shared use of this valuable resource. >> very good.
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commissioner riley i no you are leading the charge on the 3.5. do you have anything to add to that? >> i agree with the chairman on this, a couple of months ago -- i was briefed yesterday and it looks like things are lining up nicely and i don't want to get ahead of myself but next year is not irrational if not earlier. hopefully will be able to -- the staff later this year. i think things are lining up pretty nicely. can i go back to your other, you mentioned the point regarding charter, get back to congressman doyle's question, -- favorite counties. there are different positions, and i am trying to work out and
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find commonality of the different entities that are seeking this. those that have favored census tract have not moved or advocated one went from where they have been it's been hard to try and find commonality amongst all these different positions and you mentioned charter so i thought i'd bring that up. >> thank you very much, thank you for the update. back in march after a very long wait the dc circuit court issued its opinion on the consumer protection act. in particular this ruling and validated the definition of an autodialer. it also did away with commissions reassigned number, in light of this opinion what act is the fcc taking to establish valid ecpa definitions and rules that target bad actors but do not put everyday americans at risk.
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>> we are still actively studying the results of the opinion, we are working with our staff on the way forward on some of the key issues they identified. the definition of autodialer, replication of consent, i can't give you specific time frames but we are actually looking at the issues as a result of the opinion. >> madam. chair i got one more question but i'll go ahead and yield. i will submit it for the record. >> iq gentlemen. -- thank you gentlemen. >> i want to compliment you on something, i think the commission has done an excellent job, taking the authorities you've gotten from congress, the rollout of 5g, based on what i've seen.
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from the stakeholders in this space, we are moving much more quickly than i would have envisioned. we are going to have fixed wireless of 5g item 5g in houston. that is amazing. so good work on getting that done. i want to talk to you about, that is also a stage for cost- effective way to roll out broadband eventually and i appreciate the work on that. to take care of the 24 million people that have been widely talked about during this hearing. commissioners you must -- you've testified about what you're doing in terms of making spectrum available for 5g. part of that entails dealing with fm radio stations that were left out during the original legislation. my bill deals with that, it was addressed in the ray bomb act
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and also step aside -- can you give us a preview of what we can expect in that regard? >> congressman i hope we will get a unanimous vote next week on my proposal but i don't want to speak to my height of of my colleagues. we want to get public input on what the right procedure would be to protect radio stations and others as the result of -- >> thank you. moving on to another subject, believe it or not one of the biggest complaint i'm receiving for my constituency which is generally happy is that they are upset about robocalls. i don't think that has come up today and i no you all are taking steps in terms of -- i know you all are taking steps,
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>> we are doing a lot congressman, thanks for the question. this initiative frustrates me. i spent several minutes on the phone with several robocalls trying to figure out how they were and how they got my information. we are doing a lot. since i've been in office we have adopted a notice of inquiry on call authentication, we have also in that regard left to the private sector group called the nancy, second we are taking steps to block calls that are not from your area code that appeared to be, and we are taking very aggressive actions in terms of enforcement. this database allows legitimate callers to no whether or not the number can be reassigned to someone who doesn't want to be called. on the backend so to speak we are taking aggressive enforcement action, the largest fine ever imposed in the fcc's
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entire history against a robo collar in florida, about $120 million. i personally have spoken with some of my counterparts abroad, because a lot of these robocalls operations come from other countries and our jurisdiction stops at the water's edge. largely they have been willing to cooperate with us on that. >> what statutory, do you need additional statutory authority to be able to fight this epidemic? >> isaac we have fairly broad authority, but if the congressman wants to give us more tools, we would love to work with it. >> we want to move to the mid- band spectrum in the remaining minutes that we have. -- dedicated short range communications or drs g, that is part of the spectrum that could be used for autonomous trucking, autonomous vehicles, vehicle to vehicle munication, vehicle to infrastructure communication. other people want to use that
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for unlicensed wi-fi and things like that to try to offload some data transmission from sailor band. what this section seems to be -- what do you see for the future of the 5.9 ghz part of the spectrum? >> we have long been advocating for this, in an op-ed we did a few years ago we are working actively with the fcc along with the nti a, and the department of transportation to figure out the way forward. right now we are in phase 1 of testing, there has been a report that it is in draft mode, that we have shared with our federal partners and we should be able to move forward on that soon. ultimately this has to be a collaborative effort, there are a lot of agencies with different equities here but ultimately we want to make the highest value use of this
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bactrim. >> i have more stakeholders at home that are working with this, texas transportation is trying to design a trucking system of the future. they are pretty worried about what happens but i will send supplement questions for you. mr. collins you are recognized. >> thank you madam. chair. i will spend my time talking about the 911 diversion, the integrity act that we are putting forward that you were kind enough to come to our area and we went through a map of niagara county. this does not have the latest technology, they are frustrated that they don't have the money to get there. and because of your visit we have a lot of press on this. we shined a light on new york state divergence. maybe for the record to get this out there, new york has about 13 million cell phones, 20 million people, so that makes sense. the state sets their own fee which in this case we have the
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highest fee in the nation, a dollar 20 per month for the cell phones, raising $185 million. for the 911, supposed to be for the 911 service. but our bill would forbid new york state's diverting about 40% of that money to the general fund to be wasted in albany. that is about $75 million a year , it should be going to upgrade our systems in niagara county, instead the money is just being frittered away in albany. so our bill would put that $75 million back on the table. not only for new york, new jersey, and a few others that have no interest toward laws that would forbid this. i will tell you that most of the folks in our district were astounded to no -- know that the 911 charge on their cell bill was not all going to 911 service.
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they did not have a subtraction for new york state diversion. the 911 fee and the new york state diversion. so your visit was well received. bipartisan wise. all of the counties which are struggling to fund and want updates, they want to do when a call comes in, who is calling and where they are instantly so they can dispatch people so everything is moving together. some of these systems are decades-old. in some cases, erie county where i live, there is literally a dozen or more outdated systems. the sheriff department wants theirs, the city police wants theirs, the fire has theirs, even all the cell phone calls go to one place. people have their landmines and they are somewhat protective of them. again i want to thank you for helping us shine a light on
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this, to further put this forward. where we were over the last five years they've paid $10 million that has gone into albany as part of the dollar 20 per phone. while new york state diverted 40%, they still should have left $6 billion height of $6 million to come back to that county but each state -- six -- $6 million but each state makes its own rules. only $2 million came back to niagara county. they paid in 10 million and the residents were thinking this 10 million what help our system in niagara county. but only 2 million came back. i assure you that if the other 8 million, or even if the state diverted, the remaining 4 million had come in, they would have upgraded. residents would
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be safer. those working in those peace apps with hard frustrating jobs would feel better going home at night. so with your input i just want to point out again one of the things this bill would do is have the states not only stop diverting but we would have the fcc better define what would be a good use, the minute they stop diverting to public safety, we are going to fix that pothole over here. it is in need of federal oversight and again we want to make a couple of comments, but i wanted to get all this on the record. >> i can't thank you enough for your leadership on this issue. your point is well taken, putting in 10 million and only receiving back 2 million. for consumers, in my hometown they are paying for it twice. not only are funds being diverted but then they are paying higher local residential tax where the budgets are
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coming from. the property taxes went up to fund the extra 8 million, so they were hit twice on this. new york government has made it clear that they have no intention of changing this. rhode island has no interest right now in terms of solving the problem and new jersey, i was just talking to some folks from guam, we have work to do on this front. i look forward to working with you. >> you shine the light on this and this is also not a partisan issue. >> it's a public safety issue. >> mr. costello you are recognized. >> thank you madam. chair. i want first to say that on this committee i've done my best to delve into these issues and they are very sophisticated, the things that each of you deal with on a day-to-day basis. i want to commend each of you for your expertise and the time you dedicate to our country and to the fcc. enter the industry.
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for trying to get it right. with that i want to ask commissioner o'rielly a question. some of my colleagues on the other side have articulated their interest in giving the fcc more of a presence on cyber security issues. my concern over cyber securities is well-founded, but to my understanding the fcc should not play a lead role, on identifying and mitigating these vulnerabilities. the fcc has a long tradition of deferring to expert agencies with relevant intelligence and national security expertise. the fcc routinely refers applications for transfers to certain licenses to an informal working group in the executive branch, known as team telecom, to review the security of each transaction. do you believe the fcc has anything new or unique to add to our nations cyber security work or to the security that we
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currently have? >> i'll be careful in terms of what i can say in public. but i do believe that the authority has been provided by congress, it's not my question who congress gave authority to but other agencies besides the fcc on the issue of cyber security, that is not something that i believe we have greatest authority to act on. if congress changes that authority that is one thing but i do believe that we work well with what you are referencing as team telecom. we do need to reform team telecom and i avidly believe that. >> the reforms that you have advocated, does that contemplate that you do have existing expertise that could be led if the statute was broadened to enable you to do that? >> the changes that i'm seeking
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are more formal structure for team telecom. and the timing of the decisions that are made by them. so that when we interact with the fcc and team telecom, it is beneficial. we have decisions that have been sitting with team telecom since the prior administration, it doesn't mean we are undermining national security one iota, >> if i were to characterize, while you agree that cyber security is a serious issue you do not feel that placing more jurisdiction within the fcc or having the fcc exercise additional jurisdiction within the statute or broadening the statute would be well-placed because we have existing intelligence agencies that are already fully capable of doing that at the fcc does not have anything additional to add, is that correct? >> there is a lot that i agree with and what you said, we can
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all continue to have conversations with those entities but i think that they have a great deal of authority and are capable of providing us the information as it relates to applications that are submitted for consideration. >> i do have a commission for i do i have a question for commissioner carr. as you are aware telehealth offers beneficial -- exponential benefits to patients. but as far as rural america is concerned, what can we expect to come out of the three-year pilot program, what sort of job creation can rural communities expect from the increased development of telehealth technologies? >> thank you so much for the question. these are some of the things we want to keep up, these are great examples of telehealth, remote patient monitoring technologies, that significantly improve outcome
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for low income patients including in rural america, i'll mention my testimony and rural mississippi. one program that i mentioned in the mississippi delta, just 20% of the diabetic population of magnolia state enrolled in that program, and it is projected we will save hundred $89 million in terms of medicaid expenses. >> very good. anyone else want to add to that ? >> yes. i agree with everything that commissioner carr said. a few months ago i was at an op-ed, it emphasized the importance of telemedicine. if you look at some of the cases we identified, in kentucky people are able to treat students because there is no pediatrician and all of alan kentucky. and in idaho where veterans are
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getting consultations from specialists all over the country. we can really dramatically improve health outcomes for millions of americans and i think we are only scratching the surface of the potential. it has a direct impact on you as well. instead of spending a lot of money on emergency room visits, if we do proactive steps for some of these folks, we can save a lot of money for the system but also save lives and help people. >> thank you. seeing that there are no further -- >> i want you again for another five minutes. >> you are recognized. >> thank you madam. chair. thank you for your service to the country and what you do. i really appreciate it. i recently reintroduced the fcc transparency act which would require the transmission -- commission published on its website 21 days in advance.
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i realize that most of the commission has weighed in publicly on my bill but to have your opinions as part of the record, do you support the current transparency processes in place at the fcc and by extension do you support the fcc transparency act? >> absolutely congressman, thank you. >> yes. i agree wholeheartedly. >> yes and yes. i think it codifies good government and it's in the right direction. >> yes, i support it. >> commissioner o'rielly, your actions to roll back -- that there is so much choice today in terms of children's programming. you argue that the government need not mandate specific programming to anyone outlet and to be clear i support families and children having access to good educational programming but i do watch tv
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and i would argue that competition and consumer choice have never been greater, not only for children's programming that for all audiences. if you don't mind briefly summarize your steps in the video marketplace and the choices available to consumers. >> i will say the only issue with the idea of rollback, is flexibility on the kid vid issue. the market has changed incredibly since 1990 when the act was enacted. in 1996 when the rules were put in place, and since then they've been modified extensively. the world has changed and we have a much broader market place for children's programming. it is a plethora of cable options and tons of options for those that are over-the-top. there are concerns, what happens to a family that doesn't have any of that. we have tried to address that and i'm going to take comments on the opportunity and flex
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ability for broadcasters will still be available -- i would argue with greater flex ability -- hopefully later this year. >> also, my colleagues and i have walked -- work digital -- diligently to close the gap, this is important, broadband access allows people to participate in digital commerce, my provisions and others i support including the rural spectrum accessibility act and the improving broadband act were included in the right bond act and signed into law. i am also proud that my fellow caucus cochairs and i have received robust resources for rural broadband infrastructure
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to the tune of 600 million of new money. broadband and telecom work continues, but we are taking big steps towards ensuring that rural americans have the tools they need to flourish. commissioner o'reilly, your testimony -- we all want to bridge the digital divide but i'm sure you are concerned about the coordination of funding between agencies, that we are not being redundant with resources by pouring money into the same areas in different agencies. do you have ideas on how we can better coordinate and how best to help the government -- >> i do. there are ways, i really appreciative the effort and the work in terms of the pilot program that was created and efforts that are ongoing. it was very beneficial, what you highlighted is not duplication.
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to make sure it is not a mechanism to overbuild. i think there are ways to draft that and include language -- the opportunities going forward. >> on the issue of stingrays or in z's,, which there's been a lot lately that some of these devices have been located around sensitive areas. we have made multiple requests to multiple agencies about how we deal with this issue. i would like to make the point that whether fcc or other agencies, we will encourage everybody to work together to figure out how to address the situation because i think it is a concern for a national security perspective and it ought to be addressed. but with that madam. chair i think you and i yield back the balance of my time. >> gentleman yields. and there are no further members and we thank you all. before we conclude i ask
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unanimous consent to enter the following documents into the record. a letter from the credit union national association, a letter from the utilities technology sick counsel, a letter from the agency on 911c diversion, a letter to the fcc on tcc a, a letter from -- and affiliated health plans, the g.i. o report on lifeline, without objections so ordered. >> thank you madam. chair i would like to add the letter from hideaway -- wave wireless article from -- in tias letter to the fcc regarding -- >> without objections so ordered. members are remembered that --
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reminded that i dub -- and we remind you that you have 10 business days to issue a response. seeing no further business to come in for the committee, the committee adjourns.
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