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where do we stand right now with the midterms right in the corner. could election systems be hacked or compremyselfed in some way. first you have threats to the integrity itself. they should be able to show up on election day. and the integrity of the discourse leading up to election day. and the campaign to polarize. right now, there are steps that have been taken. both remain real threats. >> and that say discourse that is still happening from foreign actors and at the level it was

leading up to the 2011 election. we know that by already of the intelligence committee and tech companies and they have seen the campaign unfolding in advance of the 2018 midterms. whether it is happening, it is tougher to say. they have disrupted and that leaves them even as election day gets close. what are they doing it. enough on their own and does washington need to act? still more needs to be done. what they have done is to look for what facebook called the behaefr. designed to spread this information in the ways that russia spread that in 2016.

not real americans objecting to other fews. but instead polarizing discourse by people smith russia and developing the whole ident et. i think the disruption is too little and too late and when facebook reveals the efforts to book the activity. they spread it widely and hundreds of thousands of views on what they spread. >> last week's big geelg and microsoft representative discussed the campaign on sign are security and this is what they had to say. >> what sort of the guidance dew mention with the f.b.i. and you guys have met in groups and what sort of guidance and giving you now. from the federal side.

>> the coloberation and making connections and opening communication. i haven't heard any of that from them. >> no, i agree. it is kind of making a connection and sharing that. >> and yeah, i think they are happy to hear about our outreach efforts that is really beneficial. >> what do you make of them saying they are giving guidance. >> opening the channels of communication and tech sector in tough challenges like. this that is good. we work hard on counter terrorism issues. directing companies in what to do. that's not where the u.s. government generally wants to be. there is something merely

between having a channel or a direction and that is providing a steady stream of information. that is the latest tactics and others. how is that crossing the platform. what can the u.s. government inform them about. what they are trying to take. >> and that is how washington prevented. and that is my co-author and i were trying to get at the concern that this information was not flowing from washington valley so to speak. there is a first meeting. and that is midterm elections. >> and they called a meeting. they shared with the government what it was.

turning and saying what is your briefing. and they said we are here to listen but we don't have anything to say. they are not so good at sharing that information. with the right well and structure. it comes from the open internet. the best of the intelligence community and law enforcement analyst can go back. inform their efforts on the issue. >> and renee, you are up first. go ahead. >> and i run election in mississippi. these machine, we have had them 17 or 18 years and you have to physically come in when there is a problem to fix these.

the company has to come in and alter or fix the machine when we have a problem with them. so i don't see any possibility that anybody could tamper with these machines by a remote technology out there and facebook and twitter did not exist when these machines were adopted for the election. i would like you to comment that. >> the social media campaign. and that is actually altering data and that is a different piece. and that is the right that paper ballots. and that is what experts think is the safest way to go. >> what are the pit falls of that.

and each if it doesn't create the ability to vote. people try to vote and sometimes so long people have to gettet work. getting people to actually exercise their constitutional right to vote and that is a critical priority and there is work to be done and enough working machines and they indicated when they do break and at least the sign are piece. and there is an internet connection with them. and that is high end. and that is how you can respond to a statement. and that is bill nelson came out and said there was a situation where the russians are going to be hacking the machines.

the democrat party did not verify it is going to happen. that is one component. and that is an article until the paper. that looks like in a early voting system. and that is looking absolutely real. >> he came out and that is a very dubious things. and that is not only electronic things. and other means of people trying to dissuade right in our own country. nbill nelson, he's a senator, thank you. >> that is an important aspect and i am not familiar with the broader point.

the elections are federalized and handled at the state level. and that is very much with the national security challenge for us. it is where elections are handled. and that is by the state and that means and what they are pointing to, to insure the integrity of elections in the states. and that is on the federal level. that is part what mishing're makes the issue so hard. >> and yes,in want to ask you how the democratic party will

analyze the election and what they are doing with registering undocumented workers? >> i don't see the issues this morning we are talking about as being for one party or the other. it is a bipartisan issue standing up for free and fair elections in the country and the threat i see to at this time election right now. the external threat is of the kremlin and foreign backed activity to cross the integrity of those elections. partly by leading up to them and conceivably corrupting the data. >> and the president signed an executive order recently that did the following and impose sanctions. this applies to anyone who sponsors it and including a company or country.

what does this deter. >> i don't think it goes far enough. the language sountds pretty good and those accountives are worthwhile. it is an attempt toy the white house to snaul election that is gathering momentum on the hill and it would have been tougher and offer on the issues. and that bachels me as to why one wouldn't want protection. there is work legislatesively to do here. and that is both with respect to russia and the bilateral relationship. and that is marco rubio and

republican senator in maryland called it a deter act and establishing redlines act of 2018 and aimed to prevent lekdz interferrance for the entail community. and that is for the senior political figures and alon arcs. preventing the ending of sections and certified that the russian government hasn't interviewed in the election. and what is it that you can help te ter. >> and it begins to respond. and you will recall that congress passed a bill and authorized sarngzs. at first the white house seemed to vet row and when it was clear

it would pass over a presidential deal in all likelihood. underenforcing and they are imposed. and that is to penalize those who are part of corrupting our election system. and that is to sanctions over due. at the level it can be shared. and that is to these threats. and that is at gathering 20 events. good morning. >> and i just had the question on the building machines.

and that is unhackable. that is returning for voting being hacked. and let me know if machines are hacked and absentee voting. and that is getting it. used it and signed her name. i can see misuse on the absentee ballots as well. mostly it is. and that is let me start them with the question of voting machine and that is different voting machines in the way. it was part of the known uniform

nature. the ways in which those who worry about hacking of the system worry about that takes a few different sform forms. one could be a voter role and entitled to show up on election day. it is based on what the election volunteers see. not dully registered to see. and that is changing it after it was past. and they are safer until we can can really determined. this is a electronic voting machine. and that is set up by the president and vice-president. and that is a voter fraud issue. and indeed that commission

folded in the face. it was endangering comblg. pulling information on american voters. and we focus on the election. and that is widespread here and more on interference by hostile actors. >> and republicans, hi, you are on the area. and that is what we called. it happened there is a 2015 presidential. >> and it is concerned about medaling in the election and didn't do anything about it. and we are concerned about illegal immigrant voting.

and if somebody doesn't check. there is no way to check. we understand they would be voting democrat and don't tell us that it is not a concern about illegal immigrant voting. there is fraud. absolutely there is fraud. >> let me go back to where you begin in term was 2016 campaign interferrance. it could be handled better in the campaign and one that i hope can become an issue. that worked on the hill. and it would be nice to see elections themselves as something that both parties are and that is a private sector let

them fall where they made. >> and democrats. and yes, i have a question for you. what is behind the white house going so easy on russian issues with hacking it makes no sense to me. what is your understanding of that and what is bep hipped it. >> i think it is a question a lot of us wonder and i am not sure i have the question for you. as the issue gets on to the issue and election. there is a reluctance to take it on. whether that casts doubt on the 2016 results or a different view of moscow/washington relations,

i don't have a consensus. it is outside and around the white house. that is a consistence in congress. and more needs to be done. and they are protecting the election discourse and election results, those are real priorities. tim, question or comment here. >> i appreciate accepting my call. with the paper bam on thes that are accumulated and processed in sobsly some type of computer system, did they go do a double charge. to make sure the numbers are coming in appropriately. you know what i am saying? x think i do.

that is how close the elections are. it is it familiar. and that is with states going back and when a certain majorin seems to be the difference. that depends on the circumstances. the paper ballots are there to be rechecked and why they seem less vulnerable right now than the electronic voting system. good morning, you are on the air. that is the strongest possible one. >> whatever those measures are. >> and for identification. >> and i'm currently in

connecticut and living in new haven. and i wasably to vote. i found it shocking. and they raised my hand. and that is submitting a ballot. the guest speaks of the strongest possible measures. that is that kind much security. >> and generally you want them to respond to real throats. for voter fraud. >> and that is revealed. and even attempt to vote fr

fradiently. that is where judges have found they haven't got a attempt to save the elections and skew elections and keep certain constitency to vote on election day. i begin with a threat and challenge. that doesn't seem to be the one. what is the real challenge is the corruption of discourse and conceiving of hacking of data. respiratory we'll go to south carolina and hi, linda, your turn. >> hi, thank you for taking my call. with all of the flooding displaced in north and south carolina how will they handle with the florida. in north carolina, it is another

excuse for them to corrupt the elections. how will they handle it. >> there is immense amount of work to be done to rebuild after the storms and their consequences. the midterm elections are not far away. it is one of many priorities they will have after rebuilding in what we have seen. >> good morning. you are on the air with joshuan and thank you for having me on this case. we had someone in georgia delete the election data after a lawsuit was filed and to have a look at it. we need to look at our own internally as well.

to make sure that we are not swinging votes in different ways. it is done through purging polls and people data and vote data and many other means was gerrymandering. i want like to hear what you say about that. >> the caller referencing the interesting information, resident have gone to court and asked for judge man dated improvements to the selection. election. these issues are not litigated in this way and asked for how they mighting achieved. what you see there is a valid impulse and not enough has been done to protect the foundational elements of the democracy.

no matter where it is taking them to court, there is a growing chance that our government needs to do more to protect these. >> hi, kevin. >> i haveëyquestion, the democrats are hacking into our system. the value of the hack mines they are just controlling who is controlling our government. have we looked in to the security. oir a democrat hacking. >> we have smart people. if and party wanted to hack the election. >> we have done that. it is an obvious hacking. obviously discourse coming from

both parties and that the of a connection even if they get out in terms of midterplingz. and come being continue upon & a lot of folks both at home and on. they will set their there issa on've. and they can that is a critical priority. >> it is one help three americans am the country will change midtifrm vote. they can be apology on and it is

all worth they are look at what fill happened in 2018. that the idea that there is valud rein to believe i said that right, go ahead, kevin. >> my question is, could our parties, i mean, is the russians just a red herring that we are using to manipument the only control. >> and rye couldn't it behooveov of one or ports to get the gets

and ichlt and the russian it is if they hack ump and i am not sure where all of the benefits come from intentially and if you think the valley. if you shays down the money. it is intomorrowly ron spupt and that can hide your own inn snlths and have you seen that in your computer investigatoring >> they are always putting a if anything on key points. not only something something

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