that the fear of becoming dope sick was a is this model. >> watch afterwards sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two book tv. descendents of presidents from james monro to gerald r. ford convened in washington for a conference hosted by the white house historical association next we interview a descendent from over cleveland and william mckinley. this is just over 15 minutes. we are talking to you at the white house historical -- associations presidential summit in washington, d.c.. you work with the organization and are the descendents of two presidents. on my maternal side to grover cleveland, the 22nd and 24th u.s. president. , to william's side

mckinley. i am the great great-nephew of mckinley and great great grandson of grover cleveland. >> how do those families get together? >> happenstance. my parents married and the two became one. >> for your parents aware of their lineage? >> i have no clue. my father was a longtime history professor at you ga, during the course of time, we talked about presidential politics and descendents and i learned so many stories about those families from those conversations. >> the two are very different, aren't they? with the family menu bear, mckinley. what do you want people to know about him? what is the most important thing? >> everybody remembers he was

assassinated in buffalo. the most important thing, i tonk, and a book has brought light, is how powerful of an impact his presidency gave the because we had an industrial revolution, expansion around the world, tremendous growth. sadly, grover, cleveland and mckinley are forgotten. through books that are written about both, especially mckinley, and you remember the book about william mckinley, he has always been revered, but in times past, he has often been forgotten. my hope is that through the course of time and great efforts of the white house historical that jacqueline kennedy founded in 1961, it is

efforts education and preservation and legacy and learning about the president, they will be remembered. i am trying very hard to do that. >> we have visited the mckinley memorial in ohio. what a structure. tell her audience the story of how they came to the? -- to be. >> way back in the day, people revered him. you know the significance about the roses they wore in the day when he was assassinated. . it --izens of ohio thought it would be fitting to come together and create a memorial for his legacy and memory. he is probably ohio's most becauseu.s. president he was not only a house number but the last u.s. civil war president.

produced, inat addition to the fact that he was assassinated, probably contributed to them having a wonderful memorial. >> it is impressive. the amount of space it takes and the size of the memorial itself. i understood the first lady was very much involved in the building of it. >> that's correct. >> the first lady ladies memorial museum is on the same campus. would you talk about mrs. mckinley and her legacy and a role in the white house? >> wonderful maze. wonderful supportive wife. you know the story about her having epilepsy and the fact that mckinley was such a wonderful husband that when she had epileptic seizures at dinner, he would graciously place a napkin over her face and she would recover and they would go on with the dinner.

she definitely, because they lost both children, that is the reason he has no direct descendents. both of the daughters died. i think she, because of the death of both daughters and the assassination of her husband, caused her to want to memorialize him. the white house first ladies home is actually -- was her home. it absolutely is. the first ladies museum is actually her home. it is a beautiful structure. inaugurated that home back in the day. >> if one were to look at that. of time, it was a time of great disruption and technical change. there are parallels to today. going through the digital revolution, challenges with

immigration. with the purpose of studying history is to understand our time today. what would you take away from the mckinley era that people -- for people to understand the time we are going through? --the technological advances we were expanding at rapid speed. money was being poured into the country for industrial expansion. we can learn from that. we can take strides and make sure we have the infrastructure and citiesto proceed can understand how important that is. they were doing it by happenstance and open for the best. sometimes, that do not work out. we can learn from the past. we can learn from those mistakes that were made. especially during that particular time.

we radically changed in the early 1900s. >> grover cleveland, you are more closely related. people will remember that he was america's only nonsequential president. what else should they know? >> he had a beautiful wife. there is a great story that has been passed down in my family. francis and grover were so saddened after the first election so she told the white house take care of the china because we will be back in four years. and they were back in four years. had priore that they to them getting married in the white house was a love story that will endure the test of time. she was married in the white house. in a beautiful gown. it was founded by george

cleveland, the grandson of grover. his sister and a -- and marion cleveland found the dress, the wedding dress in the white house collection. in the first ladies collection at the smithsonian. that is a powerful display of how wonderful and how elegant she was. would certainly learn from history. >> there was an enormous age difference between the two. it was a love story that was kindled by francis's father, a dear friend of grover. the his death, grover felt need to make sure francis was taking care of for the rest of her life. they loved each other. older, 25-30 years,

but at that time, she trusted him and he was her guardian for many years, even prior to her husband's death. she had complete trust and they loved each other. they had a wonderful family. >> they really did not like life inside the white house. they wanted to protect her family. how did they? francis wouldmes, take the children by carriage to sites off-campus unbeknownst to the press. they would secretly do that. it would be midday or sometimes in the evening when no one was suspect. -- she very much controlled our children would be seen. >> they also built houses in the

cleveland park section. the family lived there and that use the white house as an office? >> that is exactly right. he was a voracious reader and writer. at the time, we did not have archives like we do today. office, all of the letters and documents were taken by him. i was talking to george how many papers still exist. they are trying to get them to the museum and institutions like princeton to preserve and keep. it is a lot of information. >> what are the -- where are the bulk of the papers? >> princeton. >> what is the princeton connection? princeton was the place that

grover and francis retired to. i never will forget the story. i have been told this many times. grover did not like woodrow wilson. at the time, wilson was the president. he did not allow his children or woodrow wilson's children to play together because there was a rift. so they did not play together. that is the connection. he retired to princeton. >> the cleveland's children, they also have a daughter who became famous who also passed away. baby ruth. we have a candy bar named after baby ruth. about theat you know family stories about baby ruth? >> the actual candy company contacted the cleveland family to put images of the baby and also francis on it. i have tons of political

memorabilia and souvenirs that have been given away. they contacted the family to allow the images on the candy bar. sadly, like you said, ruth passed away. susan, she was pregnant with a child at the time. happened to him was at the same time. she did not get a chance to say goodbye to ruth.. > -- ruth. they were afraid the disease, diphtheria, would affect the child. >> it never goes away. >> everybody thinks the candy bar was named after babe ruth. but that was long past that time. you hear it from the candy

company. they will actually say it is named for baby ruth. you see the likeness on a lot of the candy wrappers. both were beautiful. she was a beautiful child. francis was a beautiful woman. let's talk about you and your interest and -- politics. you mentioned your family talked about family history around the kitchen table. when did you take a serious interest in history? >> probably not until junior high. my dad always talked about it. i have two other brothers. he always talked about politics and presidents and presidential descendents. andor high peak my interest take a greater look at it, and the fact that we had the legacies of both families and one of the research.

that is the time i became really really interested in it and it showed an even greater interest. we actually went to all of the historical sites, the mckinley museum and library and grover cleveland grave in new jersey. not as say, i really was familiar with it in the early years. junior high, high school, college, the interest i had in that cause me -- caused me to have a greater interest. >> is of coincidence that your profession is political committee case in? >> [laughter] that's exactly right. write been privileged to for some of the greater people, , -- gingrich, john raynor john boehner, and paul ryan.

barry -- i do not do day-to-day stuff. it is a thrill to write for them on policies. i thoroughly enjoy it. most of my work is corporate medications. >> what is it like being part of the community of presidential descendents? is there a lot of interaction? >> i hate to say it, susan, years ago, we attended the new york mayors presidential descendents luncheon they used to have. this was 20 or 25 years ago. years, people have become more interested. i approached the president of the white house historical association six months ago about wanting to create an event for the presidential descendents because it is something that has not been done. hopefully, going both, we will actually have more reunions.

i am hoping we have an annual dinner that we will have in different locations around the country. i hope you will. . i think it is so important you learn. learn so much, user experiences and stories about the presidential families. i love to be around people who are like me. >> if you had to say your perception of being a presidential life in the white house is different than folks who do not have this history because of what you know. how would it be different? do you have a different appreciation? >> i think i do. probably the greatest word would be respect. themselves to greater office. what a sacrifice. timesally during those that were strenuous in the

country. i do have a greater respect for the office. i have a greater respect for the people who occupied office in the sacrifices they have had to need -- make everyday. you miss family time every day and i know william, because of the way they had to travel, lost a lot of time with his young daughters because he traveled by rail. he was apart from his wife. that was dramatic because of her list. -- illness. >> thank you for visiting with us. >> pleasure. >> you are watching american history tv. 48 hours of programming on american history every weekend. follow us on twitter. to keep up with the latest history news.

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