us. be sure to watch c-span's washington journal live at 7 am eastern saturday morning. join the discussion. ♪ next a look at staff turnover in the trump administration. the brookings institutions catherine dunn talks about her decades long research in turnover in presidential's ministrations. washington center hosted this event. >> please take your seats. w all right.

this morning, we have our first speaker, i know has katie, dr. tenpas , who is going to talk to us about you are hired, you're fired, stepping the trump presidency analysis and comparison. dr. tenpas is sa nonresident senior fellow with government studies and a fellow at the governance institute. a research address is the intersection between the presidency and policy including the presidential reelection campaigns and trends in presidential travel and polling, expenses she is also look at white house stepping with a particular focus on turnover rates and individual white house entities like the office of political affairs, office of faith based and community initiatives, and staff secretary. dr. tenpas has authored the book president as candidates, inside the white house for the presidential campaign and published over 30 articles , book chapters and papers on these topics. e you can also find a lot of her writingsat the brookings website on governance. i'd like to