>> my question is who invented hospice and why? because that is a bad, bad thing. >> why is hospice a bad thing? >> well, it murders people and you take your loved one to the doctor, to the hospital, to get them well. and then they don't, they give them medications that are bad. and then the first thing they want to put them on hospice. >> we'll let dr. coburn talk about hospice. >> other than being abused in medicare, the rule on hospice is you need a life expectancy less than six months. it has been abused by a lot of doctors, but hospice is great care.

good morning, good morning. it has been quite a week for us and it will culminate on friday when we pass the equality pact. this is an exciting time for our country. for the first time the lbgt community. it will be in a very substantial way. this is not only for the lbgtq community, but in america. our history has always been on expanding freedom and reducing discrimination. this is a banner vote for us, on friday, and we hope that it will be bipartisan as well. health care, health care, health care. that is what is of concern to the american people. last week and this week, bill after bill. let me just comment and say

something about david sicilini. the legislation right from the start, with us and we announced the bill a couple years ago before we had the majority, and now every democrat will be voting for this bill on friday. we're very excited about that. again on the health care front, we promised a lowered health care cost. and there are many pieces of legislation for that goal. so we're continuing our drum beat on the prescription drug prices on pre-existing conditions. it is a stunning thing. maybe you noticed in the campaign, that the republicans kept saying no, we're for

pre-existing condition benefit, but most of them voted against it. and the administration's giant is now inviting states to disened dismantle protections. and i want to command chairman. it has many as if tets to it. last week we had bipartisan legislation passed over the price of prescription drugs by removing barriers to generics in the market. and we have again been doing this while the republicans at the same time have been

disantling and sabotaging a and continue attacks on hb and now for women specifically as we have seen in alabama. heartbreaking and unconstitutional assault on basic reproductive freedoms. it is really, i don't want to be a fear monger, but i believe they're o trying to go on a path to dismantle roe v. wade. it is expressing our concerns on this legislatively and at the grass roots level. then in dc we see the trump administration continuing unprecedented and unconstitutional campaign to conceal the truth. the trump administration is continuing their vicious attack and campaign in the courts to destroy every last production in

the in the affordable care act. the medicaid expansion. bans on lifetime and annual limits. being a woman, no longer being a pre-existing medical condition, i can speak to that, and that is what they're doing in the courts. now the public has to know how and why the president decided to force the department of justice to try to obliterate the courts. they have written letters to the doj, the department of justice, and the white house, asking for information about thousand decision was made. to understand, this is the law of the land. when it goes to court, the justice department is supposed to protect the law of the land.

instead they are there to under mine the law of the land. attorney general barn ar refuseo answer questions on the questions about assault. this week they saided in a let tore jerry nadler denying congress's constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight. the beat goes on. now, in terms of what happens to our education that we're so proudly nanny many ways in a bipartisan way passing in the house, senator mcconnell stri described himself as the grim reaper. there was barn torte and he says they will go there to die. the legislation that we're

sending is alive and well in the court of public opinion. and he will be hearing from the public. lincoln said public sentiment is everything. how many times have i said that here. with that we can accomplish nearly everything. in order for the public sentiment to prevail, the public has to know, so you will be seeing people, advocates at the grass roots level, we had 10,000 events, not we, the grass roots, there was 10,000 events by the grass roots. people telling their individual story, the lobbyists, the associations within the particular disease in our country, speaking of our pre-existing conditions about lifetime limits about young people being in their parents provision, but they're personal stories won the day and

preserved the affordable care act welcome so again we just sty mr. mcconnell that you will be hearing from the american people and their views as it is attached to their health care. okay, so now we have iron. we have asked for a classified briefing for the house of representatives. we asked last week. they said they could not be ready. we thought hopefully this week with all of the urgency they're attaching to what is happening in the middle east, not yet. so we're hoping that for sure before the break we will have a classified briefing on the middle east on iran for the full house of representatives. we will have one for the dang of eight later this afternoon, but that is no substitute for the

full membership of congress. that is not to under mine the responsibility to undermine the responsibility to make sure that congress has the full situation. for a long time now we have been asking for classified briefing for congress. and the administration has ignored or rejected those requests. . it is outrageous. and just do get the objective briefing. so this is part of a pattern that is not right because we have responsibilities. and the responsibilities in the sdugs is for congress to declare war. so i hope the advisors recognize they have no authorization to go forward in any way. they cannot call the

authorization for the use of military force, that was massed in 2001 as any authorization to go forward in the middle east now. one of the places that i agree with the president is in our opposition to the war in iraq, and i hope that same attitude will prevail even though some of his supporters are -- >> jerry nadler said today that the conduct of the administration is such that he cannot rule out anything else. >> let me just say this. the letter that came from the white house yesterday was completely outrageous. it was totally outrageous.

it says the president is above the law and congress has no right to investigate any of the actions of the president, to hold him accountable in any way. here is the point that i think you have to speak about the ip tensions in that, but here is what the law is that we all would agree to. when they are saying unless you have a legislative purpose, you cannot ask any questions. you cannot investigate, inside you have a legislative purpose. but one of the purposes of the communication, that is spelled out for the investigation, is impeachment. so you can say, and of course with respect if you said we need this information to carry out our oversight responsibilities, and among them is impeachment. it doesn't mean you're going on the impeachment path, but that if you had the information you

might. it is about impeachment as a purpose, a constitutional purpose, for -- and justifying constitutionally and court wide, a path. >> is that an argument that you're prepared to make before the courts? to say that we may impeach and this is what we need? >> no, we hope we don't have to do that. we hope they would respect their oath of office and the separation of powers, and that they would respond to requests for information that might be ratcheted up to subpoenaed for information, but just to say that that letter came from the white house was a joke, be neat the dignity of the presidency of the united states, and in defiance of our constitution, shame on them. >> on immigration the president

today is outlining his latest plan, but based on what you learned so far is there anything that the president is suggesting? any proposals that you get behind? >> we have not had a briefing on it. we have to, i believe, come to comprehensive immigration reform. i know on the republican side of the aisle there is a recognition that we have to have prehen sieve. it respects the value of family to us that has certain principals that we agree to. the administration is asked to send someone, i don't know who, but send someone to brief the members, we always welcome that and we'll see what they have to say. but i want to just say something about the word they used, merit,

it is condescending. are they saying family is without merit? are they saying most of the people that have come to the united states in the history of our country are without america because they don't have an engineering degree. we want to astrakt the best and that includes many people from many parts of society. and if you want me to, i will quote ronald reagan. go to his last speech as president of the united states, and what he said about newcomers to our country being the vital force of america's preem nans in the world and when we fail to recognize that we will fail to be preemanant in a world where we cannot close the door. this is about our vitality and our ideas and entrepreneurship. and the president has recognized that since ronald reagan. so we will see what values are reflected there.

we have only heard titles like merit, which is nonmerit, it means merit in the eyes of donald trump. >> some members that are frustrated have said that congress should have content powers, do you support imposing fines on people that are defying congressional subpoenas? >> that would be inherent contempt, criminal contempt, and inherent contempt. if they fail, i imagine that this is a possibility that is out there, i'm not saying we're going down that path, i'm just

saying it is not to be excluded. so an inherent contempt, you hold them in contempt, and if they don't comply, then you can fine them, and then you can hold them accountable for the money that you find them. so for people that work in the federal government or the administration that are now having to hire lawyers, who is paying for that? the republican national 2003, that is interesting, is that legal? i don't know, it doesn't seem to both em ther them if it is or n. but you can find them and hold them accountable if they don't pay the fines. i'm just saying it is an approach. >> i don't have to have a position, i'm waiting for my first -- we want to see what

question get respectfully. first we ask. then we subpoena friendly. then we subpoena otherwise, and then we see what we get, let's not leap frog over what we think should be the path that should be taken. but i only say to you whether it is using impeachment for other purposes, for investigations, or using fines as an incentive, for people to imply the information, it is a possibility. it is not something that, as i said, i'm a big believer in the committee system. >> it sounded like the administration -- your side talking about the aggressiveness. >> we will.

>> do you think they're trying to goad you into posing that on them and then they kill it because they say this is something that we can't live with. >> their motivation is something you'll have to ask them about that. i don't like to question people's motivation, however i do like to challenge what they put forth. we will l have the great many act. the temporary protective status. soon to be, i think it may have already expired. the d.e.d., did it expire? it needs to be addressed as soon as possible and it will be on the floor. i don't know what they're talking about if it has any relationship to this. the president says he wants to

protect daca. he has said that in the past, i'm hoping they don't have an alta ulterior motive with that. >> well, it was referenced how he wanted today do that -- had wanted to do that. hopefully he still does. one more question? >> speaker pelosi -- >> >> the democrats are saying that the issue of the border is simply a manufactured crisis, is there an actual crisis at the border in and where are they now as far as how -- >> let me just say this. we have never not said there was not a crisis, we said there was a humanitarian crisis at the borner and some of it was provoked by the actions of the

administration. i will just quote our friends from the evangelical community, when they came in to testify in the last congress on one of our hearings, because the republicans would not have the hearing, they came in and said the refugee resettlement program, the united states refugee resettlement program is the crown jewel of america. the representative came in and said that. what is happening at the border is tragic and we hope to address some of that in the supplemental that is coming forward. the disaster supplemental to provide some of the resources there. when you take children out of the arms of their parents.

when you separate families. when you do what the administration has done at the border, you are making matters worst. it is really sad. of course we want kpcomprehensi reform. we understand our responsibility to secure our border. but the manner in which the administration has gone forward is undermining our humanitarianism as a country. we will high pressurefully work together in a bipartisan way to address this. but yes, it is a crisis. we always said it gets to be more of a human tarns crisis the more the administration acted in the shameful way. not consistent with our faith

and our belief that every person has dignity and without. that every person has a spark of divinity that we need to respect. and that we have that spork that we need to act upon. so it is so sthad another baby, 2.5-year-old baby died in custody. again we're hoping to address some of this in a bashl way in o -- they be our fundamental disaster assistance. thank you all very much.

>> a quick reminder that this week on newsmakers it will be a conversation nancy pelosi. coming up, house judiciary democrats will be holding a news conference on the russian interference in the 2016 election. then they will read the entire report. that is expected to last between 12 to 14 hours. you can also watch the reading live online at c-span.org or listen with the free c-span radio app. coming up this afternoon, president trump will deliver remarks on the immigration policy. >> to the city of milwaukee,

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a live picture from capitol hill this morning where democrats will be holding a news conference shortly on the special council's investigation into russia. after that news conference, lawmakers will read the entire mueller report. it is expected to take 12 to 14 hours. we will have live coverage of all of this life here on c-span 3.

again, that news conference expected to take place in just a couple moments. while we wait a discussion from this morning's washington journal. carl cannon joining us now to discuss the results of a new poll on america's health care system. 4% of americans think the health care system in the united states is working well.

72% rate their own health care as good or excellent. explain why those two things can happen at the same time. >> this poll, we started polling, and now we have our own poll and it was done in cambridge, massachusetts. and we were really trying to go deep on these issues. it's not a horse race pole and there are fascinating things. 4% are people that think health care is so good they don't want any significant changes to it. 28% want to start over, and the rest of the people are in the middle, but they want some change. so you look at this and you say holy cow. people are really upset with this system. then you ask people how about your health care? 22% excellent.

50% good. 6% poor. what are they telling us. they asked people to rate their own health care, and then how would you rate the health care of other people, and then the numbers went down. so you have a disconnect, right? we're right across from the capitol. people are showing they like their own member of congress, but they don't like congress. >> health care, your own health care, your views on american health care in general. >> they are a number. there is the numbers for call ins. >> it is facebook.com.

we are talking about this poll. >> there is one question, we split the panel in two. i will explain it and you will see why. we ask people, do you believe in medicare for all. that is a program that would not just, not just elderly people, not just retirees, but all americans. the other have is asked "do you support medicare for all?" it is different if private insurance goes away. then is 55%. and other pollsters have came in on this. we didn't in this poll, but your taxes will go up, you don't get to choose your doctors, and then

the support starts to erode. >> what does that mean for republicans that very much right now want to talk about medicare for all and the concerns of what they would do to the health care system. >> until now remembers have talked, when you talked about medicare for all and obama care, or any of these cohearsie or any of these cohearsircive p they would say socialized medici medicine, remember with obama care you should get to keep your doctor, this poll suggests that it will no longer be enough. the next guest, senator john coburn, who knows more about health care than most of the people put in senate put together, if you like the va, well then that's -- right now they're medical system has very bag problems.

the public expects change. republicans and democrats, all very interesting. the most of the three groups are interested in accessibility. and for republicans just to say socialized medicine. they moved on and president trump today is going to soon unveil an immigration plan. health care is 36% of people that ran into the top issue. immigration was 15%. >> if you want to see the numbers here. a lead story, here is one of the other numbers for the poll. those that say they're finally. burdened. what do you take from that? >> that was in the past year. 44% is high, john. people are burdened. and that was one of those once

of the answers. it didn't matter ideology, it mattered anyone. they're looking at to payments, new payments, and things they haven't dealt with before. so these costs they're fresh in the workforce, people are really concerned with the cost and it is going up. >>. >> i have been wanting to say something for quite awhile. i had an abortion in 1998. something was wrong with my child, and i end up, i went to atlanta to have an abortion, and then i was sitting in a room

with about eight people in there and they were just talking about oh, i just had an abortion sixth months ago. i just had this and i had that. they were in there thinking it was like a birth control. for them, and then here i was about to cry and if they had not put know sleep i would have changed my mine knowing i shouldn't have. and that's just the way they go. they don't care, people just go for birth control. they just missed their pills or something, they're -- >> joist, appreciate you sharing your story this morning. carl cannon, did you poll on the issue of abortion at all? >> we didn't do that, and i don't have any special expertise on this. my heart goes out to the caller but we didn't go into that.

>> the health care in other countries are way cheaper, more efficient, and the outcomes are better health wise. i think a lot of that we can adapt some of those systems with other international countries, and use that as a starting point. we don't have to reinvent health care. i think that we are just not having efficiencies because we don't want to adakt those practices simply to say that we're american and our system is better. we can make it more cost efficient. >> that brings up one of the questions you ask about. who will be improving the health

care in this decade to come. >> americans are still optimistic. some of these countries have twice the tax rate we have. unless we do that we're probably not going to move to a system like that. i know that americans want better outcomes. so who do you trace to do it in the future? republicans. 30% of congressional republicans, 40% of americans. that is not very good. these futuristic industries. we're all futurists. we're all californians. we think we can invent new products and new driver ri systems and we'll live longer and health year. that was kind of hospital mystic

to me. >> interesting that people were more hospital mystic. more than republicans in congress. 36% to 30%. >> nothing to brag about, though. the health insurance industry has, our numbers, they have work to do as well. >> oak hill, west virginia. >> number one, i do nots believe in jup ver sal health care because insurance will go up. second i'm a registered dietitian and i see a lot of patients who do not take care of themselves. i believe that the center of health care is the patient themselves. i had patients who say oh, i -- president trump wants the american people to believe that the mueller report is simple, straightforwa straightforward, and fully