that social security issue has to beha addressed in relationsh to being able to keep up with inflation. the cost of living andongressm s not kept up with that at all, and we're working on that as i speak. >> democrat of arizona, cochair of the blue dog coalition, we thank you for the conversation this morning. come back again.. >> my pleasure. really enjoyed it. >> house and senate democrats are pushing for a hike in the minimum wage to $15 an hour. they've included it in president biden's $1.9 trillion economic aidou package. are(202) if you're for it dial in at 202748000. minimum wagee earners and tee, business owners. the chair of the senate budget committee senator bernie sanders was on jimmy kimmel talking

about his push for a minimum hl wage hike. >> how long have you been trying to get the minimum wage raised federally? >> well, for ran fomany, many y when i ran for president in 2016 i called for a $15 an hour a lo minimum wage.of at that point, frankly, not a lot of people it.iorteded today the last -- d a >> i think back to when i was in high school and making minimum wage working at a clothing store at a pizza place and it was $3.75 back then and i was ople a looking through some of the states it's $7.25 now. in the year 2021 people are $7.25 an hour, and these thought are not high school to students. these are atults.r sand these are people witht families. >> that's a very important point tountry make.an there's a lot of misconses about that. but i'veall been all over this country, and i honest to god cao

recall talking to working moms, raising children trying to do i, on $10.50 an hour and you can't theyt. tease are adults. kids. they've got to pay rent. they need to have all the pacic necessities of life. they need to feed their kids. and one of the great crises that we're facing is that so many of our people in the richest country in the history of the world are literally struggling g to put food on the table, and po we've gotur to change that $15 hour, and by the way it's over a 4-year period it's not a radicao idea. you make $15 an hour, you are not getting reach. but at least you have a shot tot live at a minimal of dignity. you don't have to all the stress and pressure that's on you righe now trying to survive onar ed starvation wages. $7 take a look at the history of the minimum wage over the years. it was last raised in 2009 to

$7.25. now, many wag republicans are opposed to not only the minimum wage but overall this had $1.9 trillionn economic aid hin package. the thebarasso was onthth senate floor tuesday and here'sm what he had toan say about the idea. >> let's take a look at d some the things the senate democrats support. the bill includes a mandate from washington, d.c. to double the minimumum wage.e co nothing tong do with coronaviru in fact, it would actually makeo thingsn worse. the congressional budget office took a look at this said what would the impact be on the. economy, and they say there are 1.4 million people who have jobs right now who would lose their jobs. if the federal government came in with a mandate to double the minimum wage. childca abt a stimulus. according to one report the new washington mandate would also ae raise the cost of child care byh about 21%.with

how's that going to work for hardworking families trying to get back to work and need day care for their children?e in t with schools closed in so many locations across the country ost that is the last thing working : families need, an increase in the cost of providing care for o their children.o >> thecbo. senator from wyoming senator barasso. now he cites the cbo'stiate.jo you can go to cbo.gov and find their analysis ofam raising the minimum wage. they do note there would be a job loss in 2025 but it would g raise 900,000 americans out of poverty. craig in washington, sd.c., wha do you think, craig? >> caller: yes, my point is this. $7.25 an hour, that's something that a kid should make. to wcan you afford to pay rent anywhere?o eat you can't pay rent anywhere with that kind of money.

you've got to get back and forta to work, you've got to eat youd something. you just can't doo it. you can't buy you a car or s tht nothing. what canan you do with $7.25 an hour? my whole point is as a kyle thai lives with a parent type of money, you know, he can buy his own clothes or something, but for a grown up there's no way in the world you can live out here with the price of things with $7.25 an hour. >> okay, bertha, you say yes as well too raising the minimum wae in richmond, virginia. hi, bertha. >> caller: hi, i agree with the gentleman just got off-line. it's disgusting america as rich as it is -- my daughter. i'll use that for example.. she has one child, she's a cna, and she's only getting $11.59 ae

hour. now herer rent is almost $900 a month. her child care is $75 a month. she get a measly $60 for child h support a month. now, if you total all of that and by the time she pay her car note, her rent, her gas, her water, she can't get -- she do n get assistance for the baby. but as far as putting food on h thee table? you know who puts it on the table for her? me. it's no way in the world that er you can make it off of -- and the republicans crying about $15 ho hour, i guarantee you they wouldn'tur work for $7.85 an hoh they wouldn't work for $11 an t hour. it is so disgusting. when i saw -- and i look at your show all the time. and i've seen where when they th

were againstey that $1,400 that trump was giving out -- they ar so against $1400, but how much money did they get from that stimulus? because as i understand it they got over a million dollars a piece. >> who's they? >> caller: so i want to understand why is it so bad for $15 an hour. peo yes, we got covid but that's not going to stop -- if she can't s: make that $900 a month rent. po >>po senators tom cotton and mi romney, they're proposing $10 minimum wage hike with a mandatory e-verify. lot here is the utah senator on his proposal. >> well, these are difficult times for a lot of families.lowa and for age lot of working families particularly those entering the work force ore thol

in very low wage jobs, not rs having had an increase in the minimum wage at the federal level for, well, over ten years just doesn't make a lot of r for sense.o and so along with senator tom cotton, we propose raising the minimum wage over four years tot $10 an hour. and after that to have it rise with inflation.huge bur now, that's a lot better than the $15 plan the democrats are $ touting because that $15 plan would be a huge burden for it businesses going from $7.25 to $15. that would be just back breaking and probably cost us -- well the congressional budget office said it would cost us 1.3 million. at the same time we're mirrorind that to make sure people can't come into the country illegally and take jobs from americans. and that's with a plan toopeop e

mandatory e-verify system that basically penalizes employers that hire people who are illegal. hopefully we'llr $15 pl get som traction with that and keep the democrats from doing something really nutty with their $15 plan. >> senator romney along with senator cotton proposing that $10 pin. raise wage an hour tied to e-verify.er we're asking you do you oppose, support democrats efforts to raise theit w minimum wage to $n hour? it would be over four to five happen.n. would and democrats are using the process in congress known as reconciliation. this allows them to get it passed in the senate with just 50 votes rather than the normale 60ss votes.roblem reconciliation -- because of theirat using this process, provisions in the bill including minimum wage could be problematic if they were to hava se impact on the budget deficit

outside of thena window of thist legislation. so we are waiting today on the senate parliamentarian to rule w whether or not minimumed wage a other provisions -- there she il on your screen -- are allowed under this reconciliation process. the hill is reporting this morning tat the president's chief of staff ron klain, says that thein vp, kamala harris, would not overrule the parliamentarian on minimum wage increases. also on that point congressman ro khanna says the constitution gives democrats the power to la decide whether itny can pass through reconciliation. do not let anyone tell you that we did not have the power to pass $15 wage. steve, you make the minimum wage in north charleston, south carolina. what do you do for a living?

>> caller: this question about n yes or no minimum wage, i don't know how thatway to got on ther anyway i completely agree with through reconciliation. i understandment o arguments on sideshe issue, greta.g inde if it's federally mandated it should be regional based on the regional cost of living index.pr rural wage earner in spending power of $15 in mississippi is a lot less -- a lot more than them spending power of $15 in los ths angeles. federal employees in the midwesi make a lot different than let' california. it reducea roofer incentive and employees in labor-intensive het jobs. a roofer in south florida, 95 degrees in the summer, walked up

on the roof and tells his helpers i got to pay you $15 ane hour now and the guy is like you got to pay us more than that. i can make that in a mcdonald's now and i am up here breaking my back and my knees sweating my life away. o he has to pay himr. more so thas a game changer there. now my son worked in south florida on hurricane cleanup. d' employers could get resourceful. i don't know, greta, you won't answer if you're a w-2 employ or independent contractor, you may be a 1099er but helping my son with his taxes, he was making good money and i used to help him with his taxes and came home and handed me, he said i need ne you to help me with taxes and hands me a 1099.e i said patrick, we got to take out all your taxes, medicare, social security. that muchractor.making an hour but guess what he? didn't have to pay health n insurance for you.

i wonder the legality of this situation if employees can get by with this and relieve themselves of other responsibilities. maybe somebody can weigh in on i that. >> he was paying medic both sid social security and medicare, steve? >> caller: we had to do that, he was supposed to do it quarterly but hands me his 1099, visit the irs office and south carolina tax office, this was in unintentional. he knows he wash supposed to do it in his quarterly and got duped by his employer down in south florida so all of a suddee you have to pay 14% social security instead of 7%, pay the medicare rate and pay the o federal and state in back taxes. plee employers can get nresourceful. we have to be careful how we do this. of there's economic news, young finance reports that the l bured of labor statistics announced another 730,000 americans filed for new unemployment claims, this comes as we said the housea

will voteid tomorrow on that $1 trillion economic aid package which includes an enhancement to unemployment benefits, of $400.o the vote in the house tomorrow.a watch the debate and the vote here on c-span.te bud bernie sanders is holding a hearing in about 15 minutes up on capitol hill before the senate budget committee about to thiswn issue of wages. he writes in a tweet "the family that owns walmart is worth more than $200 billion. the ceo of mcdonald's received $18 million in compensation in 2019. are we supposed to believe they can't afford to pay their tod workers $15 an hour? absurd." and he'll hear from o two workers, with unfrom walmartrt one from mcdonald's. watch it on our website. also happening up on capitol h hill, watch it on the website an well as a hearing aboutut the january 6th insurrection. listen with our free see pan radio app as well. members on the house side of a

subcommittee with jurisdiction over security willth hear from acting house sergeant of arms and the acting capitol police chief at this hearing. manu raju of coronavirus waronavirus is tweeting out senatornt chris coons of delawa. said to john berman the january 6tha commission, to investigat what happened on that dayaythe d be evenly divided, a break froms pelosi's position, the speaker. "the leaders of the 9/11 commission said part of why it was so successful is that it war even.is it was balanced," he told cnn. now we're going to hear from the speaker later this morning, 10:45 a.m. eastern time, around that time. you can watch it on our website cspan.org. john is a business owner in the nation's ith thcapital. >> caller: the last guy used the

upward pressure on the system using the roofing example. someone started at $7.25 eight years and got $1 each year and now making $15.25 but the new employees come in making $15 an hour, now your best people will. expect more money because they've been loyal and if you're not able to give them $22, $23, 25 bucks an hour they'll be disgruntled and nothing takes down a business faster than a n bunch of disgruntled workers sos it will be a disaster.ut >> ernestine in west virginia. t you say no. >> caller: yes i do, i believe it would put a lot of mom and ur pop and small businesses out of work because they would not be r able to pay the $15 an hour to all their employees, and so jo there would be people who would not be working and out of jobs

if it was $15 an hour.unemploy so we would be paying were unemployment or welfare or whatever for those people who are unemployed. so i am against it because of that, because there would be less employed employees or people in the united states. >> okay, you'll be interested in senator john thune, "i started working by bussing tables at thh star family restaurant for $1 an hour and slowly moved up to thex cook, the big leagues for d a k like me to earn $6 an hour, muma businesses and n small towns sis survive on narrow margins. mandating a $15 minimum wage , y would put many ofla them out of business." george in owing mills, maryland, you say yes, george, why in. >> caller: i say -- doctrine -- hello.br if you thinkium inis terms of equilibrium, equilibrium relatey to the cost of goods sold and

the cost of wages, they're determined because those two w items are seeking to be equal is some way, and as it relates to how that is expressed, yes, ingw costs of goods sold are goingo m increase. right now you have peopleain jop working two jobs just to meet certain costs of things that they have to purchase. as it relates to increasing the minimum per hour, senator thune talking about what he was making, consider inflation, -- making $23, $24 an hour. if you look back and you cent w consider the present value of finey, this gentleman was making a decent wage, if you look at e how much unemployment was given back in the first stimulus, that equalled $600.nd imp well, that's $15 an hour. so to try and impact the ing frm disinformation that the average american has to contend with especially coming from capitol

hill, i really am appreciative of this program, it gives peoplr congpportunity to express themselves, but also you got tor deal with the ect disinformatio because the congressman from florida was not totally correct in what he was saying.ng yes, you're going to have a cost to deal with but we're talking about equilibrium. the theory of wages, support. it's a battle -- things are out of conequilibrium., on >> george, let me pose this to you. if the congressman was on able another tnetwork, on a cable show, we would say those es thi comments and then yous wouldn't be able to call up. that's what makes this program unique and aunlike anything el. >> caller: no, i said i appreciate the program. i'm glad. i'm happy for see pan.t >> yes, i'm just pointing out the difference that youou said o have to battle its disinformation, that's why we have all of you, that's why we e

allow you to call in, to challenge the guests that we have on here, you know, to share your perspective. >> caller: let the calls keep coming. fantastic. >> okay. tom wynter, nbc is reporting cng as well that donald trump's taxp records the formerla presidents are an underlying tax documents are in the manhattan da's handsa cy ndvince's spokesman danny frt confirms the subpoena for the document was enforced monday and the documents are now in their possession. roy in new castle, delaware, ort what doak you do for a living? >> caller: i think -- and thank you for taking my call. i think the minimum wage could e be $15 an hour, but we're in a pandemic. businesses are going out of business. so they need peo to hold back o that, maybe start getting people maybe ten bucks an hour, and i'm not, you know, i like to make 1a

bucks an hour myself but you can't when there's a pandemic, and the country is in bad shape. thank you. >> all right.- well, democrats are waiting on a the senateme parliamentarian ase told you to rule whether or notc increasing the minimum wage can be included into this $1.9 trillion economic aid package. elizabeth mcdonough will make that decision. no news on the front. the decision is expected today, even if she does allow it to be included, democrats have some trouble in the senate with a 50/50 senate. senator joe manchin of west virginia has said he's opposed to the idea of $15 an hour, andd he would i like instead settingt at $11 an hour and indexing it to inflation. erica warner who covers capitol hill has this tweet "liberals

like jayapal want senate n said democrats to try to overrule the parliamentarian if she finds alo against minimum wage but ron klain said on msnbc last night h that they wouldn'te have the votes."appens madgeon has said he wouldn't support this." we'll see if they agrow with senator joe manchin to get 50 ya votes andy put it at $11 an ho. rashard in stafford, texas, you say yes. good morning to you. >> caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i say yes, it doesn't necessarily bother me too much. i'm actually a part-time -- janitor, but i will say what concerns me, however, i see both sides of the argument. support what concerns me though is about

politicians to support raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. i don't hear much advocacy about accountability on our part. to work and make $15 for every hour that i work s for somebody, but to be honest with you, $15 is still, like $15 for an hour of your life, that'l not guaranteed, $15 is still undervalued, and i feel like for a democrat, i feel like really spitting in our face calling it rain. at the end of the day, it's my ' responsibility to make mor' money, if that's what i want to, do. >> rashard, you are a part-time7 january tor. minimum wage in texas is $7.25. how much do you make an hour if you don't mind telling us? >> caller: i actually make $11 an hour, but however, however

much i make i'm still dependent on someone else at the end of the day, which is the more alarming fact, because at the end of the day, i could lose any wab and i just feel like at the end of the day, it'snt my responsibility to position myself to make more money if that's what i truly do. for someone to give it to me is just because they feel like it w tiuld make me feel better is not helping. >> how do you make ends meet then if you're working part-time? >> caller:usines actually i'm m. my wife also has a business. she also -- it's not much but and i also receive unemployment at the moment, so just for, i mean -- so i kind of make ends meet with that, and i could be 1.5ng better, to be honest with

you, because as much as the ears situation -- as tragic as the situation has been over the pasl year and a half, i could have been making better decisions w with my finances, and i feel like we don't get that advocacy from politicians, because that's important. just throwing money -- giving uo money if we're not educated on how to use it, the money is just going to go back to them anyway. we're going to spend t going to get taxed and it's going to endy up back in the government's hands anyway. no democrats are informing us if how to keep our money and educating us.mini >> yes, we heard your point. if you want to look at where the minimum wage is in your state, a paycore.com. several states are at $7.25, texas, utah, virginia, ampshire wisconsin, other states include oklahoma, north dakota, north carolina, new hampshire, t $7.2

alabama, kentucky, kansas, iowaa indiana, all $7.25. there are states that are much higher than that, reaching $12 an hour in maine, $12.75 in massachusetts. let's hear from jean in new aki orleans.. jean, what do you make? >> caller: well, thank you for e taking my call.6,000 i'm retifrd, so i make about $6,000 a month. i was a union carpenter for 35 e years. ii started out at $15 an hour a an apprentice. that was 35 years old.' when i s retired i was making $ an hour. $15 as a starting place is not bad in my opinion, it's not great but you work towards your goals, and people in business go

into business because they don't want to work for $7 an hour. they want a better life, and the people that they hire, they veno should respect them enoughll to know they don't really want to work for $7 an hour.ess if you can't afford -- if you're running a business on a shoe string with no plans for advancement, it's just a recipe for disaster. so the $15 minimum an hour wage is really necessary and if you can't afford that, don't go into business. get a better job, do better, s u thank you. >> that's's gene's thoughts in new orleans. albert, the house is about to come in. if you can make it quick we will squeeze you in. you say yes.u make albert in harbor city, california, can you make it i quick? >> caller: yes. i'm for the $15 an hour.

you look at our country, all t through thest south, they have always suffered for low wages and the standard of living has i alwayss been lower than the eas and the west coast, and it's funny when a working guy gets a civil service job, gets in the rocking chair and rocks back and forth and all of the sudden he thinks he's in the middle class, >> joining thus morning is the mayor of dayton, ohio, mayor nae whaley, also the vice president of the u.s. conference of mayor here to talk about covid-19 pandemic and the impact it's i having on city budgets. mayor whaley, the congress is debating over on the house sidee $1.9 trillion in economic relie. and at the same time yesterday we reached the milestone of 500,000 deaths in the country. what is the human and economic s tollll on