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that third allegation from a woman named anna ruch talking about events that took place in a wedding. a photo is available in the story that's at the "new york times" website involving the governor and the young woman, but here's a bit of the account saying she recalled mr. cuomo moving his hand to the small of her back, exposed in an open back dress within moments of their being introduced and shaking hands at the reception. she said the touch on her bare skin discomforted her. quote, i promptly removed his hand with my hand, which i would have thought was a clear enough indicator that i was not wanting him to touch me. instead mr. cuomo called her, quote, aggressive and placed his hands on her cheeks. he said, quote, can i kiss you? i felt so uncomfortable and embarrassed when really he was the one who should have been embarrassed. a friend captured the exchange this a series of photographs taken on mr. ruch's cell phone. it's the active impunity that strikes me. i didn't have a choice in the matter. i didn't have a choice in the physical dominance over me at the moment, and that's what infuriates me. even what i could do removing his hand from my lower back,
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even doing that was not clear enough. that's the story as of late. two other claims coming from former aide charlotte bennett previously and then before that lindsey bolen who have been accounted in the various newspaper accounts. these prompted several actions from members of congress. the new york post highlights that. it's the democratic representative from new york kathleen rice saying she's becoming the first member of congress to call on governor cuomo to resign after a third woman came forward with the accusations. quote, the time has come. the governor must resign. rice who represents parts of long island wrote on twitter in response to the new accusation. this adds that other state democratic lawmakers including state senators al sandra and assemblywoman jessica gonzalez rojas have all joined in the calls for cuomo to step down. if you go over to the senate side, more calls for investigation of this matter
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with two of those democratic senators weighing in on this topic saying that it was on sunday that those senators echoed state attorney general's laticia james' call she should be given the power to investigate against the governor, to look into claims by the two women that worked on his office. those garnered a statement from sunday, senator kirsten gillibrand, democrat of new york called for the full investigative power to be given to james. these allegations are serious and deeply concerning she said sunday. as requested by the attorney general james, the matter should be referred to our office so she can conduct a transparent and thorough investigation with subpoena power. this also is echoed by senator chuck schumer, the senate majority leader also saying that he backed james' call that her office be the lead investigator in this probe. and then add to the mix of people calling for investigation, the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi who put out her own statement on this, saying the women have come
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forward can with serious and credible charges against governor cuomo deserve to be heard and to be treated with dignity. the independent investigation must have due process and respect for everyone involved. so that's just some of the reaction from capitol hill. for the next hour we get reaction from you if you wish to comment on this. here's how you can call us and let us know your thoughts this morning if you want to choose the phone lines. it's 202-748-8000. for democrats 202-748 -- if you are a resident of the state of new york and you want to give your comments there, you can call us at 202-748-8003. you can use that number to text us your thoughts this morning as well. twitter available at c-span wj, and our facebook page if you want to post there too is facebook.com/c-span. james in connecticut, democrats' line you start us off this morning. what do you think about these allegations against new york's
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governor? >> my name's jim, good morning, c-span. thanks for the form that you guys are, very good. >> thanks for calling, what do you think about these claims against the governor? >> i think it's just another case of double standards. you know, the democrats are the first ones to, you know, get rid of these guys if this is what the case is. but with the republicans what happens all the time is that these guys get passes. i mean, how many -- how many -- >> you're going to have to keep talking and not listen to the television, please. >> okay. i'm sorry. let me turn it off. >> go ahead and finish your thought. >> i'm still there. yeah, you know, the republicans -- how many times did this trump get himself allegations and nothing gets said or done about this, you know, and it's just -- it's
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terrible what happened, i think, and if he's got to go, he's got to go. because that's the right thing. but with the republicans, nobody ever goes. it could get as much of a sore as it can ever be, and they just keep getting worse. >> okay. we'll hear from a resident of new york. this is tyrone, a democrat, he identifies himself in new york. tyrone, you're next up, good morning. >> yes, i'm a democrat, and i definitely am in favor of what andrew cuomo has done with the pandemic and what have you. i'm also happy that democratic callers are not calling in saying it's fake news and that the senior citizens didn't die and that they were fake actors and all the rest of this other baloney that a lot of people made up excuses for what the previous president did. >> but to the sexual harassment charges against the governor, what do you think of those?
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>> i think those things need to be looked into, and i think if this is a pattern and this is something that he has been doing, he needs to go, and i think that if he hid the numbers on the desks of these people, he needs to go. we don't need somebody in office that is going to cover up and use his power to take advantage of these women. we don't need that. we need to get away from this whole hierarchy where people that have power use their power to misuse other people. no. if he did wrong, he needs to be dealt with. that's the way i feel. >> okay. okay. that's a new york resident, again, for those new york residents out there, you want to give your comments, 202-748-8003. dave, republican line. >> yeah, pedro. i want to know what ever happened to hunter? >> now, can we get one thing done at a time.
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or is this replaced now for hunter's investigation. >> we're dealing with these accusations about new york governors, what do you think about that? >> well, i think one thing at a time would be nice, but well, i think he's been a bad guy for a long time, but i mean that's my definition of new york. it's a one party state like a lot of states around here. i'm originally from the washington state. that's a one party state also, the whole northwest. >> again, but to the charges against the governor, what do you think specifically of those? >> well, i think he should go if they're true. that's all. >> okay. that's dave in valdosta, georgia, giving his thoughts. we've got three lines you can call and four if you're a resident of new york, pick the line that best represents you. you can also reach out to us on our social media sites too to give us perspective on the investigative aspect of this, joining us is from the usa today network, joseph sector.
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he is their government and politics editor from new york in albany. good morning, thanks for joining us. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> talk about the next steps now in light of these claims, exactly what is the attorney general's office involving itself with? >> yeah, well, that was the debate on sunday. who would investigate governor andrew cuomo over now what are three women who have brought sexual harassment charges against him. so you know that was sort of indicative of the problems in state government here in new york. there isn't a true independent body to investigate claims of sexual harassment or ethics. there's a joint commission on public ethics that new york has, but that commission has long been viewed as compromised and too beholden to governor andrew cuomo and lawmakers. to make a long story short, and sunday was a long day, ultimately cuomo acquiesced and allowed attorney general tish
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james to hire a private attorney to investigate these claims and come back with a report, findings in the near-term, whether that's weeks or months or more, we just don't know. >> what's the governor's ability to withhold at least going forward in light of the investigation and managing to do his job? >> well, that is a big job because you're dealing with -- we're still amid the pandemic here. new york is still trying to bolster its rollout of the vaccines and, you know, it just goes to cuomo's compromised situation as you mentioned. yesterday was the one-year anniversary of the first covid case in new york, and governor andrew cuomo held over 100 briefings in a row. yesterday no briefing. he hasn't had one, in fact, since last monday. so it just goes to show you how difficult a position he is in, and that comes amid questions about whether he can stay in office. you're seeing more and more lawmakers calling for him to
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resign. i heard some of the comments from people calling in, and if he doesn't resign, lawmakers, at least some, on. one is the sexual harassment one, two is the nursing homes. before these problems came along for governor andrew cuomo dealing with sexual harassment people were already calling for his resignation, lawmakers were already asking for him to leave office because of the state's undercounting of nursing home deaths. if you recall, what happen was new york initially for many months would not count nursing home residents who went to hospitals and died of covid as a nursing home deaths. they were counted as hospital deaths and that led to an undercounting of those who were from nursing homes dying. instead of 8000 or so that was initially being reported it turns out it was more like 13,000. that led to a whole another round of inquiries and concerns
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and hearings. there are two investigations going on. one that we noted from letitia james, but another investigation by the u.s. department of justice who is investigating the nursing home situation. host: we saw the governor make a statement and it read "at work i think i am being playful or make jokes that i think are funny. i understand my interactions may have been insensitive or too personal and that some of my comments made others feel in no way i never intended. i acknowledge things i said have been interpreted as unwanted flirtation. to the extent anyone felt that way i'm truly sorry." is there anything about this statement that effects the investigation or the situation? joseph: any investigation will use any and all evidence put forward. that statement did not do much to quell the criticism of him.
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charlotte bennett, the woman who came forward on saturday to make claims that she felt uncomfortable and that he made inappropriate comments to her about her personal life after -- asking her if she would date an older man. she came out with a statement yesterday that ripped cuomo cost statement from sunday that he needs to come forward and acknowledge her or take her stash acknowledge or take responsibility for his predatory behavior. host: you are there in albany covering the governor and the situation. have these patterns emerged before? joseph: no, not explicitly like this. one thing that has been long discussed is cuomo's governing style. many people have called him a bully, that he is aggressive.
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that he will give that he's aggressive, that he rn is -- will give -- will ream oua his opponents and let them know how he feels, but you know, he's often said that that is aght. m to an end, that he's fighting to get his priorities straight. so whennor you talk about where is and whether he can withstand this, it's important to remember that in the state legislature, they're not friendly with cuomo d speak. i mean, he has had many battles with them. he's had many successes with them, such as $15 minimum wage, paid family leave, many of the progressive measures that they r had sought, but now when he's ie trouble, he's not finding a loti ofmp allies in the state s what legislature, who ultimately as could impeach him, and that's f what some have already called hh for. >> as far as arnor h legal defe has thehe governor hired anyoneo
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assist him with these charges? >> well, he did hire someone toe help him with the nursing home scandal, so he has hired a private firm there, but it's n also worth noting that charlotte bennett, she's hired her own attorney, debra cats, and if you recall she represented christine blasey ford in the high pr brets kavanaugh hearing, soment she's hired a pretty high profile attorney when it comes to sexua harassment. so the two of them, bennett and cats put output that a stateme yesterday just saying that cuomo needs to be more forthright in his apology but also urging the attorney general to do ami nist thorough investigation not only of cuomo but of his administration alleging that others need to be investigated for possibly being part of this, or you know, not speaking up so to speak. >> this is joseph net specter with the usa today network out of new
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york, covers government and politics there. we thank you for your time today and your input. there's the story you can read of his online. mr. specter, thank you. >> thank you. >> a a couple of comments from r social media and texting, this a is bob belton texting us in a missouri saying let the investigator do the business of. finding the truth. make a recommendation to resolvh the incidents. mike in new jersey saying 26 women accused trump of sexual misconduct. he was on tape crudely saying what he does to them. if 26 women accused a democrat d or a democrat said such things,i what would we be saying.the would president obama, the former president be president if he said the things trump said. cuomo may be a bad guy. the hypocrisy is overwhelming as usual. at this point he's not going to be able to govern effectively.ou he needs told resign.03 texting us is available at y 202-748-8003. that's the line you can call if you're a resident ofline new yo in highland park, new jersey, democrats line, jim is next.
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>> yes, first of all, thank you for taking my comments, and while i am a democrat, i am a human being first and a born american. consequently, i believe that governors cuomo should resign i it's found that the accusations against him are true and he's deemed culpable for those action er: . >> mary in new mexico, from williamsburg, new mexico, independent line. you're next, hello. >> good morning. in regards to andrew cuomo in this situation, i remember watching andrew cuomo on cnn al waring chris coroncuomo's show
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durings the initial coronaviru when chris cuomo was ill, and he ittha from his house, and governor cuomo was calling him in, and they were having a big show, and i keep remembering that governor cuomo kept and mentioning the fact t that he w single and that he didn't really have anyone in his life at that point and that he had to go outd all by himself jogging and that he was -- he kind of indicated that he was looking for femalese he kept saying it, you know, in many interviews with his brother, and i kept wondering why iss the governor of new yor talking about, you know, needing a woman or a girlfriend or sort of indicating that?to it was odd. re and howlegation do you relato thela allegations? >> oh, because i relate that to
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the fact that he seemed asot san though he was trying to t find girlfriend. i'm not saying that that makes i the connection that he did something bad to other women, i'm just saying i've never seen a politician go on tv and startl talking about kind of wanting a girlfriend and lonely is me andl all this other, you know, and then his brother chris would go on and say, well, you know, you got a big nose and all this. and they'd go back and forth on how handsome one or the other was, and i thought, why are you doing this on tv during the coronavirus? why are you talking about woment >> okay.he dem let's go to john, a resident of new york. democrats' line. >> hello. rn >> hi,or c you're on. >> hi, i support governor cuomo, and i just wanted to say that i don't know when it became all right or not all right for a man to want to kiss a woman or to ask a woman to be able to kiss''
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her, andnd if a woman doesn't wt to be touched, i don't know whyt shey just can't say don't touc me. >> but that was pretty much the case of this latest allegation, in light of that you still support him? >> i absolutely do 100%.know m i think he's a great governor. i think he did a great job with the coronavirus. i know mistakes were made, but you know, mistakes happen. nobody's perfect. >> if this is theand isis third guy allegation that's come forth, does this indicate a pattern to you, and is there any concern .e there? >> not at all.'oking he's a single guy.rong? i mean, you know, maybe he's looking for a girlfriend. why is that so wrong, you know, like i said, if a woman doesn'tm want to be antouched, she can s don't touch me, don't put your hands on me. b and if aette man wants to kiss woman, wouldn't it be better rather than just to go up and s kiss the woman toan ask the wom first can i kiss you? i don't see anything wrong with
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that. >> let's go to al in sawgrass, massachusetts, republican line. hi. >> oh, it'senue of amazing what hearing this morning. there is no venue of investigation. the governor's doing a great job, boy, we the liberal press did a college yearbook investigation of brett nor kavanaugh. we have yet tocuomo' even see gs cuomo's college yearbook. here are all the excuses from the left wing media, and i know governor cuomo's gone. why? because the popcorn news of pico "good morning america" is now covering this. next will be an snl skit. the typical loop of the liberal media. why did it take three years is the big story. one woman goes back to 2017. here's the bigger question. why was the governor so brazen e to do this in the era of #metoo unless he thought the press would cover for him?
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boy does #metoo all over the face of the liberals today. they're dancing all around how to get this guy across. boy, it was just a month ago he was writing a book and we were waiting onwe a nobel peace prize for the guy. listen, it's called equal folks. treatment. this isis why the right is suspicious of you folks. maybe we are a bit paranoid. find the truth, start redeeming your job of whatnd you the went college for and find the truth. >> okay.et that's alts on there in sawgus massachusetts, republican line calling in, one of thent people commenting on the accusations rk against the governor. r also frequent critic of the ec governor is new york's governor bill de blasio talked about allegations recently, here's a bit of what he had to say. >> we've got to women who worker for him, and one of theea thing that we've all come to realize because ofof brave women who ha
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stood up, because there's beenra fundamental change and understanding in this society long overdue, so someone works for you, they're in a position a y worr of some vulnerability. they worry for their job and their future, and when anybody, but particularly an older man trying to take advantage of a younger woman does somethingngtw that makeses that woman feel ife she doesn't consent to what the man wants she may not keep her job, these are horrible, inv horrible things that are unacceptable in our society. so happagain, full investigation, we've got to understand what happened here. anything like that if someone vx purposely tried to use their atm power to force a woman to have sex within them, of course that someone who should no longer be in public service. >> from alabama in moundville, paula texting us saying here we go again, democratsit devour thr own. how do single people date these days. in a workplace of course it's d wrong, but it's not criminal, when the dems start taking their marching orders from pam bondi. this is from dave in new york, t saying cuomo's hue bris
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arrogance and ' self-righteousness, i have to wonder what the man is thinking kissing someone who is his daughter's age.ll what would he do ife, his daughr was treated that way. that's dave in new york. i don' this is james in greenville, north carolina. you'red next. >>. >> yeah, i don't think he should -- i don't think the governor should resign. i mean, we had a president thath said grab a woman by the p-and' they madeno him president. it's all good. >> so it's notep? worthy of eve investigating? >> did they investigate trump? look at 439 million people died, he didn't even look intoinve st >> besides from that, these er e charges against the governor, do you think it's worthy of an er investigation? cheeot really.he he grabbed the woman by the cheeks. i heard cheeks. i grabbed my daughter by her cheeks the other night.penden >> we're going to go to maxine in baltimore, michigan,
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independent line, hello. >> good morning, c-span.h of this allegation against cuomo, it's a bunch of la la. it's he said she said.to thr none of us were there so we re don't know. we're taking her word, and we're ready to throw him,ee women youo the curb. >> well, there's three women oeh involved inat this now. >> three, does that make it any different? you know, three can lie just asf good as one. i'm not saying he's guilty0z3■ e that or not, but if you're a female and you go into the men. workplace, you can expect some harassment. it's just natural. it's men -- men will be men, and you have to learn to deal with r it.st: you can't run to hr with every little, you know, he said this or he did that. >> how does this become a thehes prob woman's problem versus the one who's being accused of this?cal: >> it always has been. >> no, but how does it become the woman's problem?yo >> it isu the woman's problem.''
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you're going into a a man's woro you have to expect men to act it like himen, okay? this thing with cuomo, cuomo is nothing. the fact that he murdered senior citizens, that's the problem.or when both democrats in congressn at least the senate called for investigation, when a ation? representative from the congress from new york calls for his investigation, when you have state legislators calling for his resignation, isn't that b worthy of investigation? >> it's politics.y a are p can't you get it? they are not playing by a rulebook, they are playing by their democratic playbook. as far cuomo has fallen into disfavor with his group. if he is going to resign for anything it should have been the
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senior citizens, not because he tried to get fresh. >> harry from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. republican line. you're next. >> i think they will investigate this but i don't know where it's going to go. we are in this #metoo movement. this guy sent 9,000 people to their deaths and he's on his brothers show joking that he's single and ready to mingle. is he eligible to be jailable? they're a couple of clowns, and he'll get away with it. democrats never get prosecuted for anything. the same people saying nothing should happen, they are just the same people calling upon kavanaugh and how -- >> these kind of allegations led for senator al franken to be removed from the senate. do you think that applies to the governor? >> oh, yeah. i think it should be worse than that. franken never killed 9,000 people. this guy did. it should be way worse than that. >> a new york resident, this is ann on the democrats line.
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hi. >> hi. i live in new york city, and i voted for governor cuomo, and i hope to be able to do so again. there is a difference between someone behaving like a jerk and you say no, thank you, and someone who is sexually aggressive. in all of these instances, even if they are true, cuomo did nothing that should make him be removed from office. and by the way, i don't think al franken should have resigned either. i do this -- you have donald trump on rape charges from going into a dressing room and shoving someone against a wall and raping them. and you want to pick on andrew cuomo? >> so three women have identified some type of harassment or at least uncomfortable with the governor's actions, that doesn't concern you? >> to be uncomfortable with someone coming on to you is quite a bit different than
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sexual aggression. you simply say, no, thank you. i'm sure he wasn't going to slam her against the wall and demand that he kiss her. you simply say, no, thank you. >> tara in cherry hill, new jersey, on the independent line. good morning. >> yes, hi, good morning. i want to let you know from life experience and what i have witnessed in the scene of politics this is a political setup. and i think al franken shouldn't have resigned either, i wrote to him, don't listen to nancy pelosi, don't resign. i think it's a political setup. >> how so? before you leave, how so? what makes it a setup? how do you clarify that? >> as i said, life experience and what i have witnessed watching the world and politics. if he did something that someone more powerful than him didn't
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like they are going to mess him up and probably more women will come out. i'm not going to be surprised because that's the theme, that's the protocol. >> you are calling it a setup. if that's the case, do you mean there is some type of collusion between the women involved? >> no, i am thinking there is a process, like feeling uncomfortable because somebody asks you if they can date you or if they can kiss you, that's very normal. you just say no and you move on. so feeling uncomfortable, he might have made more people more comfortable -- uncomfortable because he is single and looking to date someone. so feeling uncomfortable is not a reason for a governor to resign. >> previous callers mentioned that because we live in the era of me too, those interactions have changed. don't you think that warrants
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some type of difference in how men approach women, that kind of thing? >> no, as long as he kindly, nicely asks, do you date older men? that's not a crime. and i don't think america should do that to his sons. america should not do that to his children. and come up with those plans. and somebody is doing it to him. >> okay. that is tara in cherry hill, new jersey. we have been getting your calls looking at these allegations against governor cuomo and we will do the same until 8:00. if you want to call us, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8002 for independents. we've heard from a few residents of the state of new york.
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you can call us at (202) 748-8003. the house expected at to work on legislation today. democrats planning their democratic retreat to engage in topics of their strategy for the congress. we will talk about those with guests in our second hour and we will take your calls for the next half hour. dottie in georgia on the democrats line. hi. >> hey, how are you doing? >> fine, thank you. >> okay. i was reading about what he supposedly did, and personally, i wouldn't call that sexual harassment. i would call that a man looking for a date. and there is nothing wrong, i might not like an old man dating a 20-something-year-old woman but i don't have anything to do with it. >> exactly why does it not rise to the category of sexual harassment in your mind? >> sexual harassment is when
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some man touches you or grabs you aggressively. if a man comes up and asks how you are doing and you are at a wedding. he comes up to you, you are wearing a dress hanging down and he puts his hand on your back, you would say, do not touch me, get your hand off of me, nice meeting you, and walk away. nobody is making her stand there, why didn't she just walk away? >> rebecca in summerville, south carolina, republican line. good morning. >> good morning. i feel very strongly about this issue that we have elected officials we hold to a high standard, we should, both republicans and democrats. if there was nothing that was done wrong then an investigation will show that nothing was done wrong.
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but i am stunned having heard the comments from women who just believe that other women's allegations should not be taken seriously. do we not live in 2021? have we not made any progress? >> rebecca in south carolina giving us her thoughts. you can call on the lines this morning and post on social media. one of the people who has commented on this on monday was the white house press secretary jen psaki, asked about these allegations against governor cuomo. you can find the full press conference on our website, but here's a portion. this is from yesterday. >> he said i support an independent review of the allegations against him. one of those aides detailed specific language and questions that she said the governor asked her about her personal life that made her feel uncomfortable and the governor himself has not denied asking these personal questions. so my question for you is, in
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general, when it comes to sexual misconduct, where is the red line for the president and this administration? is it unwanted physical overtures or unwelcome language between a boss and a subordinate with a power differential? >> as i said yesterday that story was incredibly uncomfortable to read as a woman and we certainly believe that every woman coming forward, charlotte, lindsey, should be treated with respect and dignity and be able to tell their story and treated with respect. there is a process of reviewing, as you noted, an independent investigation. we will leave it to that process through the attorney general to make a determination on the path forward. >> just in general -- >> this is lisa from facebook saying, "since when do we make people resign before they are found guilty of anything? oh, that's right, there's al franken. well, look at how that turned
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out for kirsten gillibrand." carol from panama city saying, "the governor should go if this is true. adding that former president trump never stepped down after 18-plus accusers accused him of sexual misconduct plus paying hush money while president. the hypocrisy from republicans will be stunning." this is from crystal, albany, new york, on the democrats line. hi, you're next. >> hi, how are you doing, thank you for having me. >> go ahead, you're on. >> i believe that cuomo is innocent. and i will vote for him again. as far as these allegations, this goes further back besides sexual harassment. it goes back as far as when he was going to d.c. to get things to help new york state with this pandemic. trump even said that he was
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going to get him too. why don't people realize that trump has done everything in his power to make sure that new york state, that he was helping to make sure things were getting the ppe -- >> we're not talking about the former president, we are talking about the allegations against the governor. why do you think they are not true? >> as far as allegations, those women lied. okay? women can also play the same game. they can go up to a man and do the same thing and turn it around and claim this person did something to them. why aren't they investigating both sides instead of just one side? >> what do the women get out of it? if this is the charge you're saying, what do the women get out of it? >> who says the women have to get anything out of it? maybe they don't like him and want him to step down. for him to resign, he doesn't need to resign. he needs to fight for new york state. to fight for what he believes.
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he's not that person. he's been there for ten years. does he have any record back then? for ten years before this came up? >> we will hear from rufus, rufus in arlington, texas. republican line. hi. >> yes. yes. i will say, the man is a single man and we have a republican texas governor killing folks with his guys down here. i don't understand why. this guy is a single guy. he's done a good job to a point. people try to blame him for everything. he's done nothing but what he tried to do as the governor. he probably overstepped his issue a little bit. but he had his hands tied from the start of the coronavirus to now. >> but this is not about the coronavirus.
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this is about accusations from three women. do you believe them or not? >> this man is single, like i said. he is looking. he's not tied to nothing marital. >> so the actions in these three instances, that makes it right? >> no, no, no. let's say you are single and you see an attractive person. you walk up, if you invade her space she will let you know, back off. i'm over 60, some ways we do things are changing. you used to just walk up and touch their hands, hold their hands, "how you doing, you look nice." when you get that frown you know to back up. oh, i apologize. step off. people taking pictures of you everywhere you go and all of a sudden they put their spin on it. no, that's wrong. >> we will hear from another resident of new york. several calling in on our 8003 number. jasmine, you're next. hello.
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>> yes. [ inaudible ] i forgive him. if he was doing that he is not the trouble. democrats, stop it. because if this were placed you could put a republican governor in. mario cuomo, i will vote for him. he should resign because he's a good governor. [ inaudible ]
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>> okay. >> because you're running for governor. >> okay, jasmine in new york giving her thoughts on the allegations about governor cuomo. we will do that for 20 more minutes. other pieces of news to share about the relationship with the u.s. and iran. the world stage and iran. comments from the international atomic energy agency chief. an appeal to all sides to engage in constructive discussions as the vienna-based agency's board met on monday. iran enacted a law late last month that restricted snap access for inspectors to some sites and surveillance cameras, claiming it is not the reaping of economic rewards it was promised in exchange for curbs on its nuclear program. without the work of inspectors, you don't know if you can sleep tight or be very concerned. the inspection work of the iaea
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should not be put in the middle of the table as a bargaining chip. you can read more of that in "the washington post" this morning. if you turn to the pages of "the new york times," a breakdown of discussions between the president of the united states and mexico's president, talking about issues of immigration, facing an uptick in illegal migrants crossing at some parts of the southwest border. mr. biden is hoping he will become a partner in curbing another cycle of this, and one without resort to the full range of policies mr. trump embraced. keeping central american migrants from immediately surging north to the united states through mexico. that's in "the new york times." an investigation continuing on tap at capitol hill taking a look at the january 6th attacks.
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christopher wray will appear before the senate judiciary committee. you can see that live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3, c-span.org. you can also follow along on our free c-span radio app. bethel from baltimore, maryland, on the independent line. you are next. >> hi. >> hi, go ahead. >> i was just calling to comment on something i haven't heard so far. two of the people who came forward against cuomo with allegations were his aides and when it comes to sexual harassment in the workplace it's pretty cut and dry, if someone makes you feel uncomfortable, whether that is a boss or co-worker, a man or a woman, doesn't matter who it is. if someone makes you feel sexually uncomfortable it qualifies as sexual harassment. i'm not discounting the third person that came forward, i'm simply saying that under any other circumstance or other standards whether you are an elected official or not if it
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happens in the workplace they definitely have the right to come forward whether it was somebody touching your face or putting pressure on you to play something like strip poker, which is one of the allegations. >> patricia in easton, maryland, on the republican line. >> hi. i believe the allegations are true. i think a lot of politicians get away with a lot of stuff and people are scared to speak out. they fear for their life and i think for these people to come forward and speak on this, especially as powerful as he is, i believe they are true. >> what makes you believe that? >> just everything that he has done lately. i just feel like he is an evil man. the way he handled the elderly people.
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i feel like he is on board with some evil people who are now basically trying to destroy this country. and i just think he is part of a huge group and a lot of them think they are invincible and that they can do whatever they want. i wouldn't put it past any politician and the power they get in their hands. i think they treat people and women like they are below them and they can do whatever they want. for these three women to make that statement, this is their lives they are talking about. i think it's true. >> marianne, a new yorker, republican line. >> yes. i've always thought that our governor was somewhat of a jerk anyway, but on the other hand i didn't hear what the young ladies said to him. and if they had given any indication they weren't
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interested in the conversation, that would be one thing. but i think they have a part to play in this. so i am sympathetic to him on this even though i'm a republican and don't like him. >> what makes you think that the women have a part in this? >> well, we haven't heard what they said to him. in other words, if he was saying something to them that they did not like, all they had to do, what an earlier caller said, was no, thank you and walk away. if he then pursued it then i would see some difficulty. >> how much support do you have for the attorney general there in new york investigating these matters? >> i think this is being completely overblown. >> that is maryann in new york, a republican. let's go to marie in columbus, ohio. a democrat.
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hello. >> good morning. governor cuomo is a great governor. he is a very wise man. and a strategic kind of man. he is good. what has happened with these women, it needs to be investigated. because in working for the government, if someone approaches you in a way that you don't like, you tell them, i don't like that. don't do it again. if he comes back again or she comes back again and does the same thing, then you report them. i think a lot of politics are playing into this because cuomo has become very strong recently and i know the democrats are going to really pound him down. this needs to be investigated and he is a great governor and i think he will come through all of this okay.
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>> with three separate allegations, what do you think about that many -- those numbers about allegations towards the governor? that three women separately came to this. >> okay, allegations can be made all the time. investigation will prove what really happened. those women have a mouth. if someone approaches you wrongly, and in working with the federal government for 36 years, they tell you if someone approaches you in a negative way or that is offensive to you, then you tell them. and if they come back again, report them. people can make allegations all the time but politics are playing into this. you don't know too much about these women. it needs to be investigated and a conclusion to come forward. >> it doesn't rise to the level of resignation in your mind?
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at least at this stage? >> no. because people have reasons for doing things to try to -- politics. i'll just put it that way. no matter if it becomes 10 or 20, investigate those people. there's a reason for why they did what they did. >> brenda from south carolina in st. steven, you are next on the democrats line. hi. >> hi. i agree with the last caller and other previous callers. governor cuomo is a very good governor. he does his job as a governor. these three women, it could be 10 or 20 women, the allegations. these three women, he asked to kiss her. he is an older man. maybe this is how he asks for a date. maybe he is out of the loop with dating. to say get rid of him or make him resign because of that and you had a president that has all the sexual harassment allegations against him. and by the way, c-span, i watch
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your show but i never remember seeing you had a show where you had people calling in and asking about president trump and all the 20-something women he sexually assaulted and grabbed. >> we have done issues involving stormy daniels and accusations over the year. they are all available at our website. >> did you ever have anyone call in and give a comment on how they feel about him not being president because of it? >> during those times. yeah. why do you -- as far as that is concerned, do you think the same standard should be applied to governor cuomo? the standard president trump was asked about or questioned about these things? >> i agree but the standard is different because this man asked can i kiss you? he asked, they could have said no. he didn't put his hands on them or grope them or commit a crime. he just asked these for a date. >> there is a picture in regard to last one, where there is a picture of the governor's hands on this woman's face.
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>> he touched her face, i mean, they accused joe biden of smelling people's hair. my god. where is the line drawn when it comes to sexual harassment? just because you touched someone's hair or face, was he rubbing her face, was he caressing her face or he just touched her face? she could have had something on her face. i don't know. i don't think he should resign. republicans don't resign when they do more awful things than that. so i don't think he should resign. he's a good governor and does his job, that's all that important. he cares about the people of new york. he works hard for the people of new york. that's more than i can say for lindsey graham in south carolina. >> okay. let's go to kathy in montgomery, texas. republican line, hi. >> this is not a republican or democrat issue, it's a woman issue. i'm shocked all these callers are okay with this man's bad behavior. he's using his power to humiliate women for his personal satisfaction. >> well, to be fair, these are allegations. in these three cases, they are
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allegations against the governor. >> i do not dispute this. people think he was joking, come on, this is ridiculous. he was using his power to humiliate women. it's not the dating game. where is -- he has a respectful position, he's not using it. he's a bad, bad man. >> gerald in new york, many residents of new york state calling. where are you in new york state? give us a visual about where you're located. >> between colony and latham. it's albany, new york, but it's a town inside, and between. >> you are close to albany there. go ahead with your comment. >> i believe, personally, and as a male, cuomo is being targeted because he is an aggressive governor. i've been watching this whole presidency battle since it started.
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he has been doing the covid, pandemic, he has been the most aggressive, aggressive governor about this covid thing and has not been able to get any help from the government. now all of a sudden, the backlash to him is because he is so aggressive, this is how they are going to come at you. >> how does all that relate to these allegations from these three women? >> you understand politics like everyone else does. and probably on a higher level. if we can't get you one way we will get you another and that's the bottom line. you know, he has been aggressive during this whole thing. and he's a democrat. all the governors that were out
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there saying they needed ppp or this stuff and they needed help, he was aggressive. he did executive orders and stuff to make sure that new york got what they needed. >> but back to the allegations, two of them came from aides, one came at a wedding, you are saying this is a concerted effort? >> i don't believe he did what these ladies said he did. because it started out with one and now we have three. it hasn't even been a whole month. so how many more are going to pop out? he's been in office for ten years. his father served more than that. are you serious? you people are out of your minds thinking that this governor is out there in the limelight like he is on the front line battling for his state and is going to put himself in a bad position like that. >> so what level does it take when the attorney general is going to have to investigate it? >> listen, that's her job.
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investigate the girls or the women that are saying all this stuff. investigate them before you throw the governor under the bus or try to. >> all right. we will hear from doreen in gloucester, massachusetts, on the republican line. >> yes. thank you for taking my call. i'm listening to this and it's interesting that the first scandal for governor cuomo was the nursing home scandal, putting positive covid patients into nursing homes, and i believe this was a distraction. these women, this whole story with the sexual harassment, it is serious, but from what i'm hearing -- >> but you don't believe it, why is that? >> i'm sorry? >> you don't believe it, then? >> there is sexual -- these are allegations and from what i'm
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hearing a lot of these callers are defending him. he will get away with it, it won't be a thing he has to resign. i believe he should resign for the nursing home scandal. that's where the scandal is and where the resignation should come in. he has an executive order that he wrote, you could get a copy of that i'm sure. i saw it for myself months and months ago. he put covid positive patients into nursing homes. >> right, right, that story is well known. these allegations are recent. so we'll just stick to that. canton, ohio, on the independent line. esther, hello. >> thank you for taking my call. i want to say that our country, all of a sudden nobody is accountable for anybody, bill clinton had monica lewinsky. that's all i want to say.
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>> as far as these allegations against governor cuomo, what do you think of them? >> i think they're true. because men take advantage if they're in power over women. and, so, hey. but if they are a liberal or if they are a democrat, whoever they are, they are not accountable, they can do anything. okay? so i'm sorry. he needs to fess up to his actions and why he did this. like monica lewinsky, president clinton had power over her and he knew it. >> okay. esther in ohio. a couple of other things. the senate confirming miguel cardona now. that happened on monday. it was a bipartisan vote, whose nomination moved through the chamber without significant controversy in contrast with the confirmation of his predecessor,
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betsy devos, who needed the tie-breaking vote of the vice president, mike pence, to win the confirmation. if you go to the "washington times," taking a look at issues of the supreme court, saying the court will hear a challenge on to arizona election matters that banned ballot harvesting and out of precinct voting, a case with broad implications for states moving forward with the election integrity laws in the wake of the 2020 presidential contest. advocates on both sides say the case marks the first time the high court will determine how a key provision of the voting rights act which forbids states denying voters rights on the basis of race applies to the rapidly changing landscape of election law. the high court has a 6-3 conservative majority. isaac in new york, democrats line, go ahead. >> yeah, man, finally, i got on the show. good morning to you, my brother. i want to say this. in this country you are supposed to be innocent until proven
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guilty. all these allegations against cuomo, i don't think they are true. but i think they should be investigated because those ladies do have a right to have this investigated. and i think a lot of people on your show are getting everything twisted. everybody is basing their comments off of the scandal with the nursing home situation. that's already been investigated and dealt with. they have nothing to do with each other. i don't think cuomo did it. because i think he's a good guy. that picture you keep showing with his hands on the lady's face, that was at a wedding. my brother, you're smart enough to know, that's not sexual harassment. he put his hand on her back but that's probably because he was trying to get her attention. i don't think the man has done nothing, i don't think he's that type of guy. i think he's too smart to get himself caught up in any type of foolishness like this. >> we will take one more call.
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republican line. >> i don't think this should be tried in public opinion and in the newspapers. i am amazed how much the colors are sticking up, they don't know the facts yet. it hasn't been investigated. >> why not look into the situation regarding the governor of new york? >> pardon? >> why not look into the situation regarding the governor of new york? >> oh, they should. it should be investigated fully. i don't think that people should be making a decision one way or another until the facts are out. >> okay, steve in illinois finishing us off in this hour. thank you for all of you who participated. weeknights this month, american history tv programs are featured as a preview of what is available every weekend on
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