tv Barbara Comstock CSPAN May 19, 2021 3:04pm-3:49pm EDT
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u.s. capitol police officer. this hearing being held by the h house administration committee. live coverage on cspan3. >> this morning is barbara come stock who served in the house of representatives, a republican 2. for the house. effor thanks for your time this morning. >> good morning. good to be with a you. >> you're part of an effort called a call for the american renewal. what is that? >> it is a center right group who are a group of republicans who don't want to be democrats, basically, but want to restore center right party, the mp of republican party. some of the people maybe want to start a third party.the i'm in the camp of wanting to restore the republican party f really under the grip of the
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former president in light of alo the january 6th actions which precipitated a lot of this because that really became a break with -- it was not a partisan issue at all as the liz cheney situation, as she incipl personally has pointed out.aw, n it is really a break with t and constitutional principles, the rule of law, and we have to restore that and not make the republican party a cult of wardl personality but get back to theh principles butav also very muchy forward looking in terms of the many challenges we have in the e domesticmi and foreign policy front in our national competition, post pandemic how are we going to deal with a lot of these issues that we're left with post pandemic. so it is really an effort to have a forward looking republican party that is not
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stuck in the past with the titui formeron president and his lmint grievances andin certainly his k unconstitutional actions culminating in january 6th. >> how much sway do you think the former president has over the current republican party?ret >> i think -- you know, i appreciate that he still has a lot of supporters within the republican party. but i think that'sis dissipatin. because when you look at the fact that this is a -- a president who twice didn't get p the popularea vote. the second time only got 46.9. he was twice impeached, we lost the house. we lost the senate. and we lost the white house under him.ertainly so this is not somebody who was able to grow the party to get the majority. i appreciate there are parts of the party where he has increased and changed the dynamics of thed two party. but you have to add if you are h party at 46.9 and what the th o
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former president proves hehi ca do, first he very much divided the country and that was obvioue in both of his elections now he's dividing the party, and that's particularly what we think is dangerous because it's based on what are the big lies.n i think you've seen that most recently just this week with re what is going on in arizona. ouf and republican officials in b maricopa county that has four t out of five supervisors are republicans, are pointing out that their election has been auditing twice with the same result and that now the former president is still making very provably false claims that are h inciting, you know -- again to incite violence i lea think, in my opinion, because all of these big lies we're told from november, december, leadina up to january 6thnd certainly l
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to what happened on january 6th. i know that morning i called myt family and former staff and begged them, please do not go down there today. i am very worried about what's going to happen because of what this has been leading up to. i know representative adam kinzinger told his staff to work at home that day because of his concerns. you had georgiaformer republican officials,g pointedly making statements saying to thehe form president this isha going to en in -- you know, dangerous things are going to happen. we've seen increased death threats against members of congress, i think of both parties is my understanding.th and you've also seen now election officials in arizona who fear for their lives. this is all, i think, very much, ino tell my opinion, originatin the former president's continuing to tell this big lier andes being a sore loser, in as effect, and not accepting the p results of an election.
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i also was part of a bipartisan election integrity group that started last summer and our purpose was to say -- make surei we hadon processes in place tha wouldwe make w the election safd accepted. and we were prepared, both s elc democrats and republicans, to uphold, you know, this election was legal regardless of who won. so we could have been in the ula oppositeve situation where it w very close and the former president won and you'd have people on the left very upset about it.. don't know what they might have done, but if they had done g our similar things we would be in the same place. so this really is about in dem restoring our constitutional cor government faith in democracy. and one of my big concerns now as a republican, but also as o just a citizen, is this -- these continued lies are going to suppress the vote of no republicans.
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you have republicans losing whe faith inre t elections. and, of course, you saw no ormer better example of that than in georgia where the president ended up -- the former president ended up suppressing the republican vote, not as many people came out in that january 5th election for the two t this senators w because donald trump had gone around for two months k saying that this was rigged and stolen and he continues, you know, even thismar-a- week in tt blog that he has from mar-a-lago or wherever he is now saying sy this is a rigged and stolen election. something i would point out fewer and fewer republicans are publically saying, and even the president's favorite networks even on the far right aen't out saying that because they know, my understanding is, legal host issues in: making those claims when they have turned out to be
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provably false again and again. >> our guest with us until 8:450 if you want to ask questions about the group she's part of, 202-748-80000 for democrats, 202-748-8001 for republicans and 202-748-8002 for independents. representativeve comstock i believe yousaw served with representative cheney and stephanic what ise does ste tha about the republican party with the removal of liz cheney. >> i have known liz cheney for h 20 years and wasin very proud t serve with her and i am very on proud of thees o actions she's taken. i think her statements when she supported impeachment were ones of ershipconscience. said th it was a vote of conscience and at the time republican leadership both in the house ant senate said these were -- this is a vote of conscience and they
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weren't -- i don't believe they whipped the vote. so i -- and now i'm very proud of her actions, you know, recently in making the statements of this is between, you know, the truth and the constitution or supporting donald trump's big lie. and, you know, theyo former president, who is only at 32% p? approval. you know, youu asked what is hi impact? nationally he's only at 32% approval. so regardlessall of what he is inin numbers, in terms of insid the party, all he has proven he can do is divide.nd you and so, if you're at 46.9%, and you divide that by any number, take 10% off, 20% off, you cannot win in an election and you aren't ai vibrant party thai way. that's why i am very proud of what liz cheney did. and i think it was very -- i i thought it was very cynical for the house republican caucus to say we'll just bring l another woman in here andl makep
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it a woman sort of now who will recite the talking points that o make the former president happy. and i certainly was not happy ts see that elise's whole campaign was really baseded on the former president supported her when she made her sort of acceptance speech after she used his name over and over and over again, making it clear that was the litmus test for house leadership, which, actually, is very much in contrast to senateh leadership. and i the senate has taken a different approach here. you know, none of the senate leadership voted against certifying the election on january 6th. and i talked to senators who arn very conservative, who took thaw vote to certify the election and they clearly understood that at there were republicans who were upset about this, but the idea that on january 6th you would
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have people roaming through the halls saying hang mike pence, - have gallows there, that you he would have capitol police -- ii worked with those capitol police, i was on the committee that oversaw the capitol police and it breaks my heart that you that still have what happened on 6th ignored. so i'm proud that the senate leadership has gone in a ence t different direction.o they don't have this sort of subservient to a former president who is fareally, in m opinion, just a sore loser who cannot accept the fact that thes voters spoke.ecau these voters said no to donald s trump. they did not say no to republican principles because we actually gaineddi seats in the house. a lot of those were people who n outran donald trump, women and minority candidates. i not worked to get those women elected so i'm proud to get those women in there.
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notably we did not support id nt marjorie s green, the women's ey committees and proud we did not support her. so i think this is a very challenging time but it's really, to me it's as easy as it was for liz cheney to say, the january 6th was a dividing line. and once that happened, once you saw the violence that was, you know, that flame that was lit by donald trump at that rally f the today, those two months before that all of the lies and telling people to march down to the capitol and they did exactly that, some of them, as my forma colleague fred upton explained were running down to the capitol. he saw that out of his window in the capitol. so i think liz is a woman of courage, and i think she's a ont woman for all - seasons. she is not a fair weather friend to the constitution.ing th even under what are very difficult circumstances given she comes from a very, very
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republican state. but i think history will be very kind to her. and i think history will not be kind to those supporting the big lie because it's so easily disproved. >> we have calls lined up for you.wh from pennsylvania, mark starts us off, republican line. go ahead with your question or u comment. >> good morning.troyin when you keep repeating democran talking points you are destroying the republican party. we have a party there's evidence that the swing states violates the constitutional laws if had their states and also their state laws.arac how are you goingk toob explaiv thatot joe biden got 450 electod votes and barack obama got 960 bed he got 12 million more votes than joe biden.preme most of the cases were split decisions, the one in wisconsin should have been won. all this stuff isn't some
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figmentnt of donald trump's imagination. the end result, the people that voted for him, the 75 million people that voted for him, 74, supported donald trump's policies andare what this coun became under his leadership.t you on the other hand think you are the majority and you aretil not. i'd like to know how you cannot see that thehe laws were brokens but we should follow the thi constitution appointing someone who broke the laws to become president. >> go ahead, representative. >> this is what's so sad to hear someone reciting the president'g talking points i'm not familiar with some of the mush mash he had there. yes, the president got 74 million point whatever votes he got, but joe biden got 81 side t million. that is a talking point that's repeated and repeated. but when the other side gets more, that is called losing. that's something that donald te trump hasn't beense able to es.
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accept. and let'sscert go back to all ou these judges -- certainly you hear many conservatives say thec supported donald trump in '16 and in '20 because of judges. i understand that.e i work i sympathize with those people n who supported him because of that, because i've worked -- i f worked extensively i was at thet justice department,e headed up public affairs there, worked on thnate confirmations during the bush administration and then whener i was on the outside, supported all of the republican judges that are there. 60 court cases, many of them rvv written bye federalist society conservative judges shot down the president's theory time after time.t now i would also point out the president had a crack pot, in my opinion, you know, a legal team that was also ridiculed by conservative, serious lawyers. e and then you had the supreme court, six of the supreme court
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justices were appointed by republican presidents, three of them by donald trump and they rejected the president's case. so to say this is -- i mean, tk this is just thein law. it is not anything about democrat talking points. the i am a conservative. i supported putting these on conservative judges on the bench because i trusted they would support the law. and one of the things that i do say to my -- to my democrat friends is i point out many of them, you know, attacked these justices and these judges.rump many of them said they would bee trump judges doing whatever what donald trump i wanted. donald trump, in fact, said ereo these were trump judges. what it turned out is these judges were conservatives who adhered to the law.ustice and i'm very proud of that. because these judges and justices were gettingcult t smey the left often and at a very difficult time they stood up for the constitution and for the oi
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rule of law.th so again, these talking points e that donald trump puts out and then are just repeated by people have again and again been provew false by republican officials in arizona, republican officials in georgia, and you now have a legal cases that are, you know,u you've seen i believet it's on- i may be mistaken but some of the conservative tv shows have e gone on and read statements from their lawyers saying we want to make clear something to the s jt effect that people who were on e this show who were saying things that might be similar to that ae gentleman who was justt on, we have no evidence to prove any of that. and we aren't making that claim, because things like the dominioe lawsuits, all these things that have easily been proven false and 60 court cases that said en
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they wereth inaccurate, court my cases that were often written bw those conservative judges that r so many republicans wanted to put in place. so now you just have people has left, like the former president or the my pillow guy who claims. he has evidence, but there has been none proven in a court of : law. >> let's hear from tim in atlanta, georgia, independent line.y. go ahead. >> earlier you said you don't believe there should be a third party. the republican party, as of ard today, even though you say those individuals who we just heard are minority, they are a o representative of that party.nde there is no way in my opinion, and most of the independents i have talked to in my circle that we can go back and vote for a party that has basically committed treason, has sit here
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rebricated and believes in a lie with no proof. in my opinion, you have to haveu and we want a third party of republicans like you who host actually, in my opinion have common sense. so why don't you believe you tak need to branch off and have a third party? far a >> i also add you talked about your decision about a third t party earlier, also as far as the call for american renewal a part of itt is to reimagine th party you're currently of. how does that work and what would you propose as part of that? >> well, we vote for individuals. you know, they do haveent a par label by them in different states you have different parties that sometimes like an r independent party or a a so conservative party might endorse, you know, one candidatr or another. so i think we -- i think we do need a strong two-party system b and ie think we need to have on
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that is a republican party ed should not be based on conspiracy theories, propagated rergely by the former president and really infecting the body politics. so i'm supporting those p, pos republicans who veryt- stronglyy are trying to turn the page and have afo post-trump, post-pandec party that focuseseric onan thes and concerns of the american people and of their fighter constituents. so i'm supporting people like adam kinzinger, a fighter pilots who has, you know, been verye courageously going into this battle and fighting.ssues, he was somebody like liz when hd stood up in the caucus and y talked aboutut foreign policy approa issues, military issues we listened to him because we knew he had been in the field and had a common sense approach to these issues so i think republicans like that need our support.
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peoplele like jamie he rar a os butler who voted for childr impeachment, who was in washington state, one of the leaders on issues for women ande children, helping minority womes get health care when they are pregnant, she has worked on to v special needs issues, she herself has a special needs child. she is one of the first women in congress to have three children while o saysshe's in congress. kathy mcmorris rogers, also from washington state is another one. so these are women i'm happy to stand with because i feel they v continue to espouseot the not w conservative principles, i support tax cuts, voted for tax reform. i don't want to see the current administration reverse that. so i will work with conservatives and independents and people who willll fight for those principles, but there has to be a bedrock respect for the
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not this on and slavish devotion and cult of personality dealing with the former president that i think iu very destructive to the party. and i think as you look around the country, you see state housb representatives, republicans, you see governors who have moved on from this and who will be ver good bcandidates. we had governor hogan in amo maryland and governor baker in massachusetts. two republicans who are among the most popular governors in the country. governor chris sununu in new did donald trump's numbers by double digits. and he might -- he's the most by popular official in new t i hampshire, and he may now run for president. he's somebody that i can get t behind. but i'm not goingsomeon to supp to suppo marjorie green.ringe if there's somebody who would stand for the constitution
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against her i will support themy i hope to see many of these sort of fringe candidates go by the wayside because they are very ineffective in representingng their districts and getting anything done that's helpful to their districts because they art divisive people who i can tell you right now from everything i've ever seen in congress, you will not see marjorie greene a pass a bill, in my opinion. w i don't expect you'll ever see s bill sponsored by her pass yet she will send out fund-raising letters talking about things she's introduced yet she will be noe of the most ineffective members of congress. >> we have a fewer who texted us this morning asking this, sayinh ennce the non-trump supporters of the gopou represent about 9%e the voting public, why not join with the democrats long enough to put a vampire spike through the heart of trumpism and then e
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coalesce around people like liz cheney? >> the reason donald trump got . 46.9 is because he already lost republicans like me and many others in the suburbs.sionals. he hemorrhaged votes from the suburbs, professionals. and while he did gain some class votes, you know, and more racially diverse. he lost the suburbs. so i think we need to find scot candidates, say like a tim scott, who can -- senator tim scott, south carolina, who i think gave a very good speech, you know, in response to president biden's state of the union sort off laying out what e wanted to do p going forward. and he's the type of person i nu think who can turn the page and, you know, he did vote to certify the election on january 6th. voi andce there are, you know, many other voices and faces in the we party, new people who have come
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in, who did much better than y' donald trump, whos we need to b hearing from, and we -- you know, i don't think either party's future is going to be y with, you know, a lot 70-something-year-old white meno we have a very diverse country and each party has a lot of different voices and talent.ot n and we need to, particularly when you are out of -- when you aren't in control of the house or the senate or the white andad house, which the republicans are not, and you had a standard bearer who lost the popular vote twice, you need to turn the page. but as a republican i -- you know, there are candidates i can support on the state level. you know, governors, people who do the right policies in my state or in my area or as i look across the i country. so ith thinkat tho you vote for individuals. and so, i'm'm hoping that those individuals are able to, you know, be leaders, be positive and get us back on track. t
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so that's where i'm putting my hope over the next few years ans we do see evidence in polling that donald trump's influence is waning, not increasing. so if he's going down from thatl 46.9, and he certainly is, the t gentleman who pointed out 74 million, donald trump does not still have the who support of td 74 million, because many of those have said, okay.the i didn't want joe biden but i don't want trump again in the future. so they've turned the page, they've moved on. and even some of them who like him, realized if he can't win, let's try something else.rt somb at the end of the day if you want your policies to be enacted into law you have to support somebody who can get elected. >> here's tony from washington d.c., democrat's line. >> thanks for taking my call. i was wondering you just diff mentioned getting your policy f
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enacted. i'mrean wondering what policy differences, if any, do you have with the trump wing of the republican party?er thanks. >> well, the -- largely the slavest devotion to the former t president. but also i think the way, you know, i did support -- and actually at one point the forme, president did say he supported having immigration reform, ed a because ian think that's somethe that both parties have unfortunately used as an ing im election issue instead of getting a solution.voted so i do support having immigration reform. i voted to do that at the time the former president said he noa would support thent bill we hado democrats didn't want to support it at that time and people like from thehe freedom caucus opposy that effort.to the i think the freedom caucus and how they -- they were very destructive to sort of the whole
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republican agenda in general. and certainly the sort of isolationist policies that the former president had. s i do not support. recent stories talking about how he was trying to immediately withdraw troops in many places m across the world, that kind of action sounds r very nserva frightening, certainly to me. but i am a conservative. i supported conservative judges. in the house we didn't vote on them, but just in general i do. i support conservative economic policies, lower taxes. i support less regulation. but i also support working together, you know, i passed sexual harassment legislation with democrat support that the president signed. ithatd worked on opioid legislation.ei that was something that people worked bipartisanly on and the former president signed that.sec so there were a lot ofonse good
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things done so i understand why republicans who support a a lotf these conservative policies, you know, wanted to have those policies continued.rule of i just think that donald trump l was a poor vessel because he doesn't have a fundamental respect for the rule of law ando constitutional government and even whenl you had different f republicans trying to rein in th him, his own staffit trying to keep control of him, that is not the type of person that you ever want to have in the white house again. and i did not vote for him in '16 or in many '20, but i do support conservative policies. >> who did you vote for in '20? >> i wrote in. >> care to share who you did? >> well, virginia was long gone for it, but in '16 i wrote in marco rubio, who i had chaired for his campaign for president e in caus'16.y and in 2020 i wrote in abigail - adams because one of the thingsn also that i did not like about thee former president is, you w
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know, he wasom very quick to attack a lot of women, both democrat and republican, people like my friend susan collins wha he was very nasty about. but also, you know, the way he y talked about many women was certainly very distressing. so he lost virginia by over 10 f points. i was confident that that would be the case in virginia. jer >> let's hear from silver spring, maryland, republican coo line.congress this is jerry for representative barbara comstock. go ahead. >> i think my question has been answered, but it's just -- it's a curious thing, i think, representative, i was going to ask if she could point to any of trump policies that she s disagrees with. j i don't think she does.t: so then it becomes a personalitw issue. and maybe that's just what this
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is. >> well, i mean, it's a very personality that willi doesn't --ng having a leader th doesn't support the rule of law or the constitution and is eleci willing to lieon to the america people about basic facts about whether the election was won orb not. but as iforeign mentioned, ther quite a number of foreign policu issues and how we -- how he looked at the military, certainly when he would talk about my military or my generals, that's not the -- these are people, again, who take an oath to the constitution and to protect the country, note tora -- i mean, they obviously u takest orders from the commande in chief, but they aren't his generals. so just his whole approach to governance was always troubling. but certainly while he was in office you had many republican leaders, whether they were woaders on tax policy or on
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foreign policy who tried to rein in his worst instincts or bad policies so oftentimes the worst things he talked about doing were reined in so those who wanted to pass budgets that increased spending for the r it military were able to doo so, then the president signed those bills. that's why you see, whether it's a liz cheney or adam kinzinger, they were able --at a l you knoy voted for bills that then the president signed.ean, i but if you look at a lot of the things that i voted for, i vote to keep the government open.n. the president certainly one of thed it o things that i opposedt he always was talking about ando i did it once at a meeting in the white house when the president talked about shutting down the government, i pointed out, politely but strongly, that shutting down the government was a really bad idea.
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and i continue to think that, but he did shutdown the government. i don't remember how many times. but that's always counter t productive, waste government money as a conservativent. it's dumb thing to do. democrats voted also to shutdown the government. i was the only one in the region while i was in who never voted to shutdown the government. so certainly his approach to government, his isolationism, and now that youou asked me, i worked a lot with the tech world while i was in government and i dowa now, but his approach to businesses where he just goes ke out andm wants to attack nts th businesses, kind of shake them down to, in my opinion, that's what he's doing to get them to do what he wants them to do. and i'm a free market conservative who wants to allow businesses, private enterprises
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to do what they want.g at a i don't agree with him at all on his breaking up tech companies and attacking them, particularly at a time when china is our strongest competition and they p haveanie nine of the top tech companies. the u.s. only has 11. and trump was constantly attacking what is, you know, 21st century businesses in manya ourd economy where we lead the world. and those policies that he had i very much disagreed with. >> we'll hear from will in kenosha, wisconsin, independents lineid for representative mys comstock. hello? >> more of a comment, maybe a mo question. i consider myself to have used to have been a moderate republican, i'm an independent now. but seems that when you look ata theke republican party today, y know, it seems like they're trying to remake themselves on the side shows of donald trump
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and some of what were his main ideas until he went back on the middle class and gave the ill corporations a bigger tax cut than he gave the middle class. being a moderate we're probably not going to agree on a lot of things. i think reagan-era tax cuts were where we needed to be.busi but let me ask youne this, i he from a lot of republicans today they're talking about how businesses createsses go jobs b my point of view of republicanism, businesses go in to business to make profit, in order to make profit, they need workers. so there's actually a synergy r there, and should the government be pro business? shouldn't they be pro open market? whatever your thoughts arere mo that i'd like to hear them. >> sure, obviously the most valuable thing we have for our workers is improving their talent. one of the biggest issues --
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actually it had a lot of bipartisann support -- was workforce development.. i think post pandemic that's an area where you will see a lot of people working together. and that's because we know to stay competitive in the world we need to constantly upskill the workforce. whether it's through workforce t training. see i mean, i often, when i was in congress would visitit a lot of different businesses and see hoo they were training their employees. and i do think it's good for int thvernment to be helping businesses, whetherat it's throh tax incentives or independent support for businesses to do that, when i was -- i also served five years in in the state house and we were very focused on that, trying to get people skilled into the jobs ofr the future. cyber security. we've seen all kinds of cyber security threats just recently. i know in virginia we have thousands and thousands of cyber security jobs open. c so training people and that
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training oftentimes can be, you know,you can shorter than a con degree and when you can get ompi certificates to be ines cyber security and then when you're wh working for some of those companies in what are very goodt paying jobs with benefits and opportunities to get higher level education, you can move up the economic ladder. so i think that's an area e where -- i don't think that area is really red or blue. it's really just about what are the jobs of the future.future. and those are the kind of issues i hope people will be working on in the future.er: >> this is mike in michigan. republican line. good morning. >> yes, my question is, if another republican that you don't like gets nomination are you going to vote for n biden/harris? >> well, i'mrty that doing evert now to work to get a republican party that is more vibrant and will have a future-oriented leader. and i think when you see things,
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i very much support the january 6th commission that has now been the bill introduced by a republican and a democrat, a republican who's a very good legislature on the homeland of mayb committee is part that. so i think when a lot of e information comes out from that. commission, maybe more oing t republicans will realize whyo they have to turn the page and what happened here. so i am going to still sort of e bebe the glass is half full and focus on how we can get more republicans to turn the page anh be supportive.m so i don't want to answer hypotheticals of what i am very actively going to work against happening. i certainly don't want to see somebody who, you know, like the former president or somebody in that vain who supported the big lie ever be on a presidential rh ticket, but not be on, you at know -- i would really prefer them not to be on any republican
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ticket. >> one of the reasons that tive leader mccarthy in the house decided to bring on representative stefanik, his at goal was to retake the house in the midterm elections, what do you think of that possibility? >> because we were able, reallyt unexpectedly in some parts to o gain seats in the last election despite the former president because we had the candidates who ran. i do think there is an opportunity to gain the ally get majority. i think most sort of pundits looking at it who get into the i weeds of this also think that is possible. but i also think it is importan who those people are that gained the majority. and i know in those swing seats thehe former president's numbere are even worse than they are nationally. so the kind of people you need to have in those seats will be the kind of republicans that i expect that i can support.
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and that certainly would be my focus is to get more of those republicans to be part of the caucus. like i said, also in very red districts like -- that have some of these deniers of what happened on january 6th, i woul. hope to see some primary challenges there and i would be supportivehe house of that also. but yes, i think it's very possible both in the house and the senate that republicans can regain the majority, but i certainly want it to be people who are turning the page to focus on the rule of law and conservative principles. >> what's the possibility you would run again? >> i think i'm in the john banner camp. i think what he said, i'd rather set myself on fire. no, i'm happy to help others.ice and that's what i am on, two groups that help women republicans get elected. and i also work with state
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legislatures here in virginia, e harold, pion who is a create america candidate running in northern virginia, he's the kino of candidate i'd i like to see t into office in virginia. nick clemente who's also running in northern virginia, been out knocking onand doors and he's someone i think understands we need to turn the page and focus on the kitchen table issues of l our reconstituents. so when i see candidates like that, and also some women candidates that i am now working with in congress. so that's the type of -- and i'm happy to helpor a boutthem. it was a privilege to serve.cong i was -- served for about a decade both in the state and ws congress. to for s , and congress years. but i think there are other ways you can serve your community. i continue to serve on
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charitable boards and work on t issues that i'm passionate about with businesses that i care about that i think are the future of the 21st century economy. so i'm happy to continue to helo elect the kind of people who i think will be good leaders for the country, not just for the ,g party. >> let's hear fromm joanne, she's in kings port, tennessee, republican line.wron >> ma'am, i think you're all wrong about the big lie. it's not a big lie. we all seen the proof of the fraud that went on in our elections. and you're out there promoting v yourself and nobodye else but l you. you're bragging about everythinr thate wi you have done. frankly, i think you're part ofo the swamp. you're with mitt romney and you're going to stay with mitt romney no matter what and it's people like you that smear the republican party. that's all i have to say.e
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>> representative comstock? >> well, i think, you know, again this is the cult of is un personality that thefo former president has engendered. i think it's unfortunate too because one of the things that is also part of what the former president is doing is he is eard raising moneyey off of the big e lie. and you notably you've not heard anybody cite a legal case uphelc with any of these claims that the former president has made. yet because he makes them, it dt continues to, you know, have this grievance politics that he's part of. dan and that's part of what i thinkn is very dangerous. and why i think the january 6th commission is so important, because like liz cheney, i'm still fearful that something like that could happen again because of what the former president is doing and what he is inciting with his
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continuation of misinformation.m and, you know, you have heard stories reported that there havc been moreia threats against bl members of congress, threatsica against these election o officials. fear for republicans, and good republicans, that he's going to continued to suppress e the vote because ir think very much he has this attitude that e if i can't -- the former oes no president, his attitude is, if i can't win i don't want anyone to win. sort ofnot ta it's my party andu don't take me i'm going to break it up and take my people home. we've. >> -- we've never had a former president like this. that's why i'm pleased that that -- the support is dissipating. it's 14%, according to recent i polls among independents. 32% public. but that support he has is loud. i would point out it was matt tw
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gaetz and the marjorie greens tt whoo started this attack on liz cheney and look at the clown ca those two are and the legal problems that matt gaetz may have according to recent reports. these are not people you want to see as the future of the party. yet they go out on their tour -- >> lawmakers are looking into ways to reform the u.s. capitol police force. the house administration committee is holding this hearing. live coverage here on cspan3. >> as we begin, i want to note, we're holding this hearing in compliance with the regulations for remote committee proceedings. and we ask everyone to keep their microphones commuted when they're speaking as well as to unmute when you are speaking.
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