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months alongside a private company that kind of easier transition. back into civilian life. it's a little understood program but the military has. >> retired lieutenant general thomas sport the hardest foundation. the center for defense policy at the heritage foundation. he's the director. thanks for being with us this morning. >> there is more ahead on the program. here on washington journal. just a bit later on, we're going to talk about the new documentary coming out on frontline tonight on pbs documentary writer producer bonnie virtual talk about facing eviction. her new film about evictions during the coronavirus pandemic. up next that will open up our phone lines for our open forum your chance to weigh in with your opinion on any public policy or political issue we've been talking about your following the news. 202748 8000 for democrats, 202-748-8001 for republicans and for independents, 202-748-8002. we will be right back. c-span has unfiltered
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202-748-8001 for republicans and 202-748-8002 for independents and all others. speech will cover this afternoon and on c-span 3 and on c-span mobile app about 2:15 eastern. the headline on that trump such for a controversial return to d.c. as 2024 bid looms. this is brett samuels in the hill. when former president trump was -- under the cloud of the january six riots, his future in the gop in american politics was uncertain. on tuesday, trump will return to the nation's capital for the first time in 18 months with his grip on the gop steadied and talk of a potential 2024 white house campaign heating up. trump will deliver the keynote speech at a summit hosted by the america first policy institute, a think tank formed by a band of former trump administration aides to promote
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the former presidents policies. let's get to your opinions. on items in the news another events. in mississippi first sheena on the republican line. good morning. >> good morning and thank you for taking my call. i'd like to make a comment about a caller that called in when the military person was on. he said that donald trump disparage the military, made comments about isn't everything. the truth is that donald trump built up the military more than any other president in the last few terms. so i would appreciative washington journal would stop some of the lies that is told on your show by democrats that you know is a bald faced lie. because this is not doing our country any good.
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donald trump is not the president. joe biden is the president now. what is he doing for the military? he is a joke. but please, top some of the lies about donald trump on here. you people know the truth. please do that. >> to northeast pennsylvania. republican line. northwest pennsylvania. marge is in meat ville, go ahead. >> good morning. well, back to the mike pence thing. i think he would be a very weak candidate. and unfortunately, the oldest saw about it's the press that nominates the candidate because that's the one they cover is the one we're considering. then you head on after the january 6th thing a wonderful republican, he had been in the lobby, his name markwayne
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mullin of oklahoma. such a marvelous person. even then savvy, nebraska. jim jordan, he's a little bit out there. it's a shame that some of these remarkable republicans aren't more in the forefront. they're probably too smart to run. and just to wind up -- i think we should have a new law that we should even talk about the next candidate until we're like eight months from the day. the minute somebody is elected, we're talking about the next fella. so that's all for today but it be so wonderful if we heard more about some remarkable republicans such as markwayne mullin. i don't even know the man but he was so impressive in her show. thank you. >> okay, to fill up on the democrats line in michigan.
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it's open for him. >> yeah, hi there. [inaudible] i'm gonna put pence 24 of front soon as i can get around to it. takes a lot to understand -- >> philip, you're breaking up down yourself on. sorry about that but we'll move on to plymouth, connecticut to hear from paul. >> yes, sir, how are? you >> find, paul go ahead. >> fantastic. paul from plymouth. well known in the circles. thank god we don't have fake callers to program in phonies like we do on a radio here in connecticut. however, 45 years ago, i volunteered under the draft, squeaked right in okay it was january 73 that they called on the draft. the popularity of the war,
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especially within the ranks in the days of protests and vietnam. when the gentleman spoke and he said that there was a lack of support, i'm talking about the interview with the heritage foundation. retired general. now he mentioned something about the unpopularity of the vietnam war. the big lie guys and until the military people and the heritage foundation recognize it. they will not get honest recruits. and that's the problem that they face. younger generations actually more truthful. then my generation. and i did it because i had a sense of duty, because both parents served. however, i was a non conformist sailor in a minority heavily minority boot camp. and i got away with a lot because i was good for core --
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so the ranks of the decisions being made, would about military sexual trauma? why don't you bring in somebody on that one? and i know amy klobuchar was very heavy on that and she's been laying low. there is a lot of interest in not telling the truth about our past wars. and until that is done, we're not going to have the kind of core. one caller did express really good thoughts about truly bringing it back to the enlisted men level. where training schools. the military would serve a purpose. other than killing. and that one color the mentioned killing. -- >> when you came out of the navy, paul, what was the skill that you used most often in your civilian life? >> and gentlemen, electronics, i was a village frat.
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served in bermuda over cc duty. tugboat. landing craft. subjected to high noise exposure believe it or not. injury on the job. v eight fantastic everything is great. however, it wasn't always that way. the va still needs some distance to go. my experience coming out was great because they carry with me a trade. however, there were certain discriminations like not being able to collect unemployment when you're looking for a job. even though you are going to school full-time. the gi benefits have been fantastic. dad was right when i asked him what do you think of me going in as a snot no 17-year-old volunteering while the benefits will be fantastic. but believe me. i didn't volunteer to go and fight in vietnam because six
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months before i volunteered in june of 72, my brother was called back from orders and he made it as far as california. we knew that was coming to an end. the ranks did not want the war. they did not want the brass coming in and expanding their lives. the tide was turned faces and coffee houses throughout the country. it was a true populist movement within the ranks and the problem is people do not give up their political opinions when they go in the service and they shouldn't. >> appreciate your input, paul. feature piece here in the washington post this morning. about the role of the basin in the u.s. planes. once nearly extinct, basin are now climate heroes. indigenous tribes are leading the effort to bring back the basin, bring back the bison, a victory and we should be sick about a varsity but for the entire ecosystem. they nurture miles of prairies stretched across wichita
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mountains wildlife refuge in southern oklahoma. acre after acre brush, grasses and heavy vegetation creeping towards law range brenda mountains rising the distance. like much of oklahoma, the road is flat here. but the speed limit remains 30 miles an hour. that's because the bison. they appear similar to nowhere. dozens of massive animals lumbering up the shoulder of the road to cross the fresh vegetation on the other side. the herd moves slowly, their salk of eyes barely registering the stopped car awaiting the passage. they quickly set to work moving down the fresh spring time grass. they write the basins quite munching does more than nourish their bodies. it's one of the many things they do to nurture their entire ecosystem, one that is increasingly under threat from climate change. grazing basins -- shaving down acres of vegetation leaves more than done behind. there are aggressive showing spurts growth of nutritious -- and their national behaviors. the micro habitat secrete by
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rolling in the ground, the many birds that forged symbiotic relationship with them. trickle down the food chain. and funded like michigan, on the republican line. in open forum, this is karen, go ahead. >> good morning. i'm calling in regards to the recent news of china buying land in south dakota. and our government along with president biden, allowing to put our enemy in the heart of our land and also there is some chatter about smithfield port company selling out to china. in other words, they will grow the pork meat here and then china will ship it for free and that's one of our exports to china. and i believe that biden administration in the far left is trying to sell us out of the
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chinese. you had the general on there that wants to have young kids showing to protect america when our own president of the united states is putting the enemy in the middle of our nation. it's wrong, and people got a look what's going on here. and i hope to god that my great grandchildren don't live underneath a communist regime. thank you. that is karen from wisconsin. it will go to shown in minnesota on the democrats line. >> hi, i just had a couple of questions for comments. with our military. we have bases in our service men are serving in over 100 countries overseas. and back in 1968, foreign
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countries were not allowed to buy any properties or own any properties in the united states. and so many things have changed in all these years. as far as the military, it's like britain was or england was one time. the sun never sets on the british empire. and right now, the sun never sets on the american military. and i don't know if that's correct for our people who are supposed to, our young men who are supposed to defend our country. are over in these countries and being a presence there which i think is not really the right way to do things. and the right way to do things is with american businesses sending their businesses overseas. that's where the started. it's not the president biden. he's trying to correct years and years and years of things that have been done in the correct way in this country.
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>> it's our open forum. your opportunity calling with your opinions on items in the news, political or public policy issues. 202-748-8000 for democrats, 202-748-8001 for republicans and for independents and others, 202-748-8002. from washington's wti pete, the headline d.c. mayor confirms case of monkeypox in infant visiting the district. the mayor miro bows a confirmed journeys conference monday, they write that is one of two pediatric cases in the country. health officials said last week one case involves a toddler in california and the other case involves an infant who was not a resident but who test the world in d.c.. the mayor said that health workers have carefully tracked the child's contacts. and that she doesn't believe the child was hospitalized. in our vodka, excuse me, are about, a colorado, mics on the independent line. >> mike meteor volume there
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than go ahead with their comments. mike in colorado. you're on the air. >> good morning. i wanted to mention one thing. we went past the graveyard and we're still -- with everything. the monkeypox. we whistled past the graveyard. the last administration. just completely did steve bannon's work, steve mnuchin's work. the insurance companies. i can't get my medicare to even give me a doctor. i'm sitting here dying and i'm not worried about myself, i'm just gonna die. it's very before my time. they took away the two ultra prescriptions i need to just because they could. the medical profession, everybody, whistled past the graveyard and we're all talking about the superficial things. right now that they're just a
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reason to give everybody a job. nobody goes to work and accomplishes anything anymore. >> tuscaloosa, alabama, next up, charlotte. good morning. >> good morning. yes, i would like to ask a question first. >> go ahead. >> we're talking about trump and i'm not against the man but i'm just against what he does from time to time. and he has started -- that comes from the propaganda of putin. which i don't know if any of you -- putin and russia is urging trump to become president again. he says in his words that he'd rather have him there to complete what he started when he was in the white house. so the question i have with the point i wanted to make is.
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ally needs help to stand but the truth stands alone. anyway you want to take that is good with me. because what we are being led into with this big ally by the stolen election is taken many people, gripped by their hearts of fear. with violence and i feel like that is so wrong. thank, you sir. >> story here about russia. russian energy giant gazprom to slash gas to germany. russian energy giant gazprom on monday said it would have the national gas flowing through its main pipeline to germany. keeping european countries in the state of uncertainty as the scramble to build up energy supplies for winter. starting wednesday, the daily gas flow through the north stream one pipeline the biggest between russia and western europe will be set a 33 million cubic meters. gazprom said. that amounts to about 20% of the capacity down from 40%. gas from side to problems with the turbine. germany's minister for the
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economy and climate said it's on a technical reason for the -- we are monitoring the situation very closely, it said in a statement. german officials writes the post have accused russia of using repairs as a pretext to squeeze europe causing prices to soar and giving president one recruiting leverage against western countries backing ukraine in the war. rochester, minnesota, we hear from paul on the republican line. >> this is rochester, new hampshire. >> i'm sorry about that. go ahead, paul. >> i have a real radical, radical idea. when we take all the nuclear weapons that we have, we have about less than 200 countries in the world. take all the nuclear weapons we have and put them in a big pot and divide them up equally with
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all the countries in the world then nobody would have to, they wouldn't have to develop nuclear weapons. everybody would be worried because they neighborhood nuclear weapons and nobody would want to use nuclear weapons because the neighbor had nuclear weapons and we would stop that we could all go on to developing and doing things that were necessary for mankind. rather than worried about nuclear weapons. >> okay. chanel in rock island, illinois. on the independent line. >> yes, hi. thank you for having me on. >> you bet. >> i had several different topics that i can do that fast. on the monkey pox thing, when the hula segment monkeypox and the cdc and all that. the spreading is basically the whole body monkeypox is between basically three seamen or veteran of fluid not to be gross but just to say that it's a sexual contact and as you see between men. so it's not something when they
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talk about all of this happening to children and stuff like that. that is really i think mr. formation. and how all of this works. because that's really a gay bisexual all of that kind of thing. the other thing military, just thinking about the man who was on the general. on the diversity and inclusion issues, i find those to be really a challenge for people that to get them in the military to be recording because of the security and all that has to do with security. a lot of these also lgbtq stuff at all that. i'm noticing against people who have that. but to be promoting it as though it's a good thing, it's actually a dangerous kind of a lifestyle. to a health perspective. i find that to be released some.
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i was just thinking about him appearing in washington. i find him to be -- says a lot of things that are maybe should not just say but the point is that when i look at his policies and what has happened over time. when he was -- to me it's not necessarily as much about who's the guy was it starts of what he said in those ways. i didn't agree with a lot of it. but the point is that what did he do? we had a lot of politicians who can be a very smooth talkers. they can be seeming not divisive but they also don't do anything. i think a lot of us really
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upset that we don't have we have people who promises over over generation of generation of ottawa party and they promised things they get in power and they come to the office and they don't do anything about it. so for us. for a lot of us who were not necessarily pro him wouldn't have normally been there are people who voted for him and there are people who appreciated his policies because they were pro americans. unlike the woman said there was divisive in the military. i don't think so it all. he built up our military. i have a family who's there and they really liked it because they're one pushing all of those crazy things that are socially divisive -- >> another view on all trump your from jeffrey in las vegas who sent this text. democrat that disgrace of the president is about to return to washington d.c. the scene of
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the crime the silicate even putting on tv. the attorney general american iso personal trump and put him in handcuffs while he's there in d.c.. james in washington says in response to the color who's the trumpet of our military and any criticism is lies. he insulted cole servitor and smock of w's in trump over the defense budget to build sections of the wall that had more imposing natural obstacles. this one says term limits for congress must be on the ballot. no individual to be allowed to government for more than eight years. both parties are getting extremely rich and it's a disgrace. says janet in yuma arizona retired army. augusta georgia next up rogers on the democrats line. go ahead. >> yes i'm proud to get on here. listen, i'm 74 years old. i want to go back to the military and the care of our veterans. i joined the army in 66.
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i did two tours in vietnam. i was going to twice. i had two purple hearts. two bronze stars. a silver star. and to this state, i'm only receiving a 20% disability. now i think that's unfair and i hope someone is listening. i've been fighting with the military since the late 90s trying to get my disability upgraded. >> what's the reason they give you, what's the reason they give, you roger? why you're getting just 20% disability? >> for one of my wounds, they're saying because it doesn't enable me from movement or whatever. that i don't get anything for it. i have the burden of proof or
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ptsd. and some other things. on to trump. this guy was a disaster in a disgrace to the united states. that's all i have to say about that. as far as president biden goes, he really did good of his back. he came into a mess and he's done everything humanly possible that he could and can to try to better our situation. and once again, i think you and i enjoy your show, i watched every day. >> great. we're seeing wisconsin next up jim hall of there. >> good morning. i'm glad to be able to exercise my first amendment rights. thank you for c-span, thank you for the time that you put in. i'm looking out my back window. and i live on a block in
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wisconsin where there is a lutheran missouri senate church. and a catholic roman catholic church. that exists on the same block. next to each other and all i can say is that maybe that could be an example of what democrats and republicans could do in instead of trying to individually exhibit power and acclaim and history their place in history. if they would take the best of the republican party, the ideas and the best of the democrats. i think we'd be able to live like i did growing up in the 50s. serving in the navy.
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in philippine islands. in vietnam era. it just seems like everybody is attacking trump but they need to remember that while they were making floats in high school, decorating for the prom, he was in a military high school. he went from class to class in uniform. he served basically in a military type atmosphere environment. while everybody else in high school was learning but having a lot of fun. okay, to denis on the democratic line in toledo. toledo, iowa. hi there. >> hi, you had -- a caller call in -- china is buying land in south
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dakota? -- south dakota is controlled by the republicans. and so, it's a republican state. -- for what south dakota does shows you republican women -- just mean stupid. thank you very much. >> marianne in minnesota, republican line. good morning. >> good morning. i'm calling in because there is a multitude of issues that i'm interested in, obviously. but there is one thing that people can watch. it's a documentary, and it's called, stop hate. very just simply, stop hate .com. there's a part of that that's called bloody hill, and if you want some answers to all that's going on, the truth, you should watch that. it's called stop hate.com, bloody hill. and you can get some answers
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that you really need badly. this country needs to look at these things and realize what's going on. and it will make you really think, and it will make you cry if you are a patriot. thank you. >> from the wall street journal this morning, the headline, pope apologize for perch church child abuse in canada. pope francis visited the site of a former residential school for indigenous canadian children monday and repeatedly apologized for catholics role in government sponsored projects, quote, projects of cultural destruction and forced assimilation that he said devastated their communities. quote, i humbly beg forgiveness for the evil commended by so many christians against the indigenous peoples. the pope said, one of a half dozen ways in which he expressed sorrow or begged for pardon in the speech. he spoke to an audience of indigenous leaders, elders, and former residential school students, as well as prime minister, justin trudeau, and governor, general mary simon. his apologies applause and cheers, at the end of his speech, and indigenous leader
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placed a ceremonial headdress on his head. mike is in bessemer city, north carolina. mike, go ahead. >> good morning. yes, i wanted to talk about mainly the illegal immigration and the crime in the country. if you watch cnn and msnbc, abc, cbs, none of them are actually showing the big invasion on the southern border. they just released numbers, the government did, of 900,000 -- that's not accounting the ones that came in through the border and the biden administration and mayorkas say the border is closed. but, you know, you've got the mayor of new york city, you've got the mayor of washington d.c., now complaining that their homeless shelters are full of illegal aliens.
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but fox and newsmax are the only two channels that are showing all of this border crossing down there. i mean, the liberal channels are a willing to show it. >> that's my can north carolina our open foreign segment. lots more ahead coming up on the program. next up, we will be joined by documentary director, bonnie bertrand. she will be talking about her new pbs frontline film, debuting tonight, it's called, facing eviction. it's about eviction during the covid pandemic. your calls and comments as well, that's next. >> c-span has unfiltered coverage of the house january 6 committee hearings, investigating the attack on the u.s. capitol go to c-span.org/january6 to watch the latest videos of the hearings, briefings, and the latest on the attack and subsequent investigation.
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>> documentary writer and producer, and director of the new pbs frontline report, facing eviction, bonnie bertrand joins us next live from new york. that film, airing tonight debuting tonight on frontline at 10:00 eastern and nine central. bertram, welcome to washington journal. >> great to be here. >> why did you take up the issue of evictions during covid? >> so, retro port had been considering doing a story on housing in february of 2019. and when the covid pandemic hit, we realized quickly that this was going to be a big story, so we pivoted and we decided that once the government said everybody needs to stay at home we thought housing is going to be a really critical part, of staying healthy during the pandemic. so, it's hard to remember now, but there was a time we couldn't travel. so we wanted to capture the stories of people across the country, but we can go anywhere. so emily or, the associate
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producer that i work with, and i just quickly got on the phone and started calling legal aid offices across the country, we called other journalists, we call judges, constables offices, to see who would lead us film because again, it's so hard to remember, but, like it was hard to get access because nobody wanted to meet a stranger, right? if you invited somebody into your house, wet who knew whatever you were going to be reading. so we assemble this team of people across the country and we got access to -- who graciously allowed us to follow them through this, you, no froth journey that they were on to try to stay housed during the pandemic. >> how did the covid crisis, the covid pandemic, make the crisis of eviction worse? >> well, because staying home and the difference really between whether you could stay safe or not. i mean, it's an extraordinary moment in time when you think about what happened, right? basically, president trump told everybody, freeze. nobody gets evicted, everybody stay put. and those four walls that we
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lived in came our entire world. so i think everybody looked at housing in a different way. i know i did and my family did. you know, this was our tiny world. it suddenly got very small. >> one of your experts in the film, the documentary airing tonight, is with the eviction lab. tell us about the eviction lab and why you use them as a resource. >> they are an incredible group of sociologists out of the princeton university, and it's very hard to collect data on evictions. and they do an amazing job. and so, we were lucky enough to meet emily banff, or who is a researcher there, and we stayed with her through all the months of our reporting. we were checking in with her to make sure that we were staying on top of things in the right kind of way and understanding things properly. so, they are just a tremendous resource and they were on board with this project from day one. so we were really grateful to have emily participate.
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>> we could see it and watching some of your film ahead of this interview that this is a problem that's not just the problem of the renters, people who get evicted, it's a problem with landlords, small time in particular landlords. >> well that has been really interesting and i feel so lucky to have been able to be on this story for months at a time because you can really see it evolve, because as the moratorium ground on and people were not, landlords were not allowed to evict people, sympathy sort of turned and people realized that the landlords shouldn't really be bearing the brunt of the financial, you, know hit that the pandemic put on everyone. so, it highlighted this issue of the tenant landlord relationship, and the pandemic really put a spotlight on housing and the way that we have not seen for a long time. so, one of the things that we were very interested to see happen over the course of time was texas was the first state in the country to mandate this
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eviction diversion program that judges really tried to get tenants and landlords to talk to each other, plaintiffs and defendants. if they had agreed to cooperate in this program, the judge would give them a 60-day abatement period, so that they could try to work out their problems and frankly get more time to get their rent relief that was coming through the federal government. so, that tenant landlord relationship was a really interesting thing to keep an eye on during the pandemic. >> i want to make sure we open up our phone calls. our phone lines, here's how we are separating the lines for our conversation with bonnie bertram on the documentary that airs tonight, facing eviction. the line for those of you who are renters of any sort, 202 -- if you are a landlord of any sort, 202, seven fundraising 40, eight 8001. and for all others, 200, to 740, eight 8000 into. we, do bonnie bertram, want to show some of the clips from the film that airs tonight. but i want to ask you first about the cdc moratorium on
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eviction. when was that put in place and did that solve the problem or further complicate the problem? >> i think housing experts would tell you that it helped solve the problem. so the cdc, the centers for disease control and prevention issued a moratorium in september of 2020. it was a more broad and farther reaching moratorium than what had initially been implemented as part of the cares act. so when the cdc moratorium came into play, it made, it gave wider protections to tenants and it helped millions of people, tens of millions of renters who were facing eviction, and it really helped them feel, i think, more secure, like they had rights. >> do you think that the part of the problem is complicated between the cdc moratorium and each state having its own laws that govern evictions and
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renters rights? >> that was another really interesting thing, right? we all heard this phrase, eviction moratorium. it was so bizarre because never before in history has anybody thought of and eviction moratorium. and so, we really wanted to take a deep dive into that and explore with the eviction moratorium really was because it sounded great, right? he was this national program that was going to keep tenants house and get money to landlords. but what we found out was that it came down, the way that was enforced and the way it played out came down to such a local level. not just a state level, not even just a county level or even a city level, but oftentimes, like, what judge you happen to be assigned to in your house in court or what constable came to your door to evict to that there was a lot of discretion and a lot of hodgepodge approach to how those policies were really played out. >> bonnie bertram is our guest, she's the director of the pbs frontline and retro report. the documentary film debuting
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tonight, facing eviction debuts at 10:00 eastern, nine central, and it will stream later on on the pbs dot org slash frontline. we will get to your calls and, by the way, we separated those phone lines a little bit differently, so make sure you call on the separate lines. but bonnie bertram, i wanted to play part of the film where we hear from the woman, alexis hatch, and her situation. let's watch some of that. judge rulesmoratorium on evicts unconstitutional. the judge ruled that while individual states have the power to put such restrictions in place, the federal government does not. >> a man separately, the texas supreme court began allowing evictions to move forward. which left many people like alexis hatch are in a precarious situation. she became one of the first in the state to be evicted. she had been a manager of a shoe store, which closed during the pandemic. she lost her income and fell
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behind on her rent. >> court documents for her of action case show hatcher filed the necessary cdc declaration, saying she face homelessness. still this week, a judge allowed for the eviction to move forward. >> effectively, what happened with alexis was the cdc moratorium was still there. it didn't go away. but texas courts decided that the cdc order no longer applied in texas, as crazy as that is. they started allowing landlords to evict people at will. >> in texas, you have one of the first states to challenge the cdc moratorium and successful iso. >> throughout the pandemic, emily bedford was tracking how states were handling evictions. >> much of a tense experience during the pandemic was completely dependent upon the zip code that they lived in. >> whether or not you stayed in that home depended almost
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entirely upon whether or not your landlord was going to comply with the cdc moratorium. or local moratorium, for that matter. what sheriff showed up at your door and what judge you appeared before. >> and bonnie bertram, the narrator saying that alexis hatcher, one of the first evicted under texas law, how did you connect with her and were able to be there when the day she was being essentially evicted? >> so, we have been in touch with mark milton, who is an amazing attorney in dallas, and he was a tax attorney. but he quickly realized that tenants had so many questions about how to navigate the moratorium on evictions. he assembled a group of dozens of attorneys who are all volunteering and working pro bono to help answer peoples questions. so, we had been in touch with mark and mark said, there is an eviction going on right now because alexis was the first person in texas to be evicted under this weird gap where
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alexis thought she was covered by the cdc moratorium, right? because if you are a renter, you hear oh, there is a cdc moratorium, no evictions. and so, she figured she was covered. texas, as emily benfer said and mark referred to in the piece, texas supreme court did not extend an emergency order. the emergency order was the instrument by which judges were able to enforce the cdc moratorium. so basically, they were saying the texas supreme court was giving judges discretion as to how they wanted to, whether or not they wanted to use the cdc moratorium and apply it to cases. >> where is alexis? >> we are going to leave this part of the program. what the rest on c-span.org. c-span 3 is live at the america first policy institute summit in washington, d.c.. president trump is the keynote speaker. before he speaks, there will be discussions with former and current government leaders, including house minority leader, kevin mccarthy,

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