possibly bring to the committee? >> permanent, some of, those middle class tax relief policies that were actually made temporary. out of the house, they were made permanent, but they did not survive the senate. we have temporary tax policies that have been good for the middle class. need to make this permanent. >> congressman adrian smith, quick half an hour with you. we thank you very much for your time. just waiting for the house veteran affairs committee to bring their hearing on women veterans getting health care through the veterans health administration. is expected to begin shortly. you're watching live coverage on c-span three. a democrat of oregon and a member of the ways and means committee need to talk about the economy. let's begin with inflation, congressman. the latest numbers shows that prices rose 8.3% from august a

year earlier. what, why is this happening? what are democrats doing about it? >> we as you know, this has been playing out for several months in terms of the supply chain issues that we have encountered and have driven up prices. we have had a tremendous shock as a result of what's going on in ukraine with energy. there are a series of events that have taken place. it is not unique to us. it is occurring around the globe. i am very pleased with what the democrats have done with our agenda. it has been a very momentous several months. we have taken steps to increase the opportunities for energy protection production. especially as it relates to renewables. we have seen the administration working to increase supply of petroleum that was disrupted with. we have moved forward with a

ride array of things which will enable consumers to control for instance what we are doing with legislation that, for the, first time repeals the republicans prohibition on negotiating for lower prescription drug prices. that has been one of the drivers in terms of health care. last but not least, that legislation provided life support for troubled areas in health care, for, example subsidies for some of the rural hospitals that are closing across the country. it has been a broad based effort. it is going to take a while to work the supply chain issues. the indicators are positive. i am encouraged about the legislation that we have passed we. and the prospects for the future. >> earlier this morning we had

congressman adrienne smith, a congressman in nebraska, he is your colleague on the ways and means committee. he said this is the presidents fault and the democrats who have controlled both the house and the senate. because he passed a stimulus. [inaudible] there would be inflation. your response? >> it's interesting to think what adrienne's response would be if we didn't do what we did in terms of stabilizing economy. helping people stay in their homes. the biggest reduction in child poverty in history, if we have allowed the ripple effects through the economy. the situation we are facing at the beginning of the pandemic, much of that legislation passed was bipartisan. we have stabilize the economy. and we have helped our families, my legislation provided support for 100,000 restaurants that

were closing their doors and throwing out workers and disrupting supply chains. it can have it both ways. we were in a perilous situation. the legislation passed of stabilize the economy, it protected our families. it reduced child poverty. we have set the stage for future progress. >> the federal reserve chair says that they will keep raising interest rates in order to curb inflation. is that the right strategy? >> i think the federal reserve as a balanced and reasonable approach. there is no one simple solution. they are planning important roles, and stabilizing it moving forward. and they need to send signals throughout the economy. i think it's appropriate. >> i want to get your reaction to news this morning out of the white house, labor secretary marjorie walt trading out that moment ago around 5 am following more than 20 consecutive hours of negotiations, the rail companies in union ago she aiders came to a tentative agreement that balances the

needs of workers, businesses, and the nation's economy. >> welcome news. i met with the major railroads, i have talked to the unions. the situation that the workers faced was really intolerable. they are gone four days at a time and they didn't have certainty that they could plan family events or health care. it's a significant shortage and these are not easy jobs. even though they pay $100,000 a year or more for people with just a high school education they, have had difficulty filling them. one of the things, i will, say that my legislation would do -- research to deal with on cannabis. a lot of these shortcomings in terms of the supply chain are that people do not qualify for the jobs because they have used

marijuana sometime in the last six weeks. which doesn't affect their ability to do their job. throws them out of the consideration. there are things that we could do to improve the supply chain, get the workers there, this is a welcome development. going forward it would have been disastrous for the supply chains. and further accelerate inflationary impacts. it is a good sign that the administration and unions and the companies were able to work this out. >> you said it would be disastrous. this is a tentative deal. why would it be disastrous? >> we've seen what's happened in terms of the supply chain. this is one of the major drivers for inflation. we have discovered in the last three years that the concept of just in time delivery exposes how fragile our supply chains are. a disruption over here has caught us traffic effects that

ripple throughout the economy. we have saw that we were dumping food on the ground because we could not get it to the processors. the just in time concept made it impossible to have the goods, for example, the tip shortage, not just for hydro ships, but for run-of-the-mill 25 cent ships that allow trucks and microwaves to work. diff icult.further disruption to the supply chain would have been extraordinarily difficult. this is one of the things that we are working through now. ye as a result, zero over the last couple, years we have people working to make sure the supply chain is less brittle and that we are able to adapt and respond and that people can work cooperatively to strengthen the supply chain and not to put them at risk. >> let's hear from jerry who is

in somerset, kentucky, republican. >> i was wondering -- >> [inaudible] >> i did not hear the question. >> say it again. >> i want to know how much wealth the top 20% has in this country? >> top 20% has a wildly disproportionate wealth. the top 2%. wealth in this country is not equitably distributed. it is one of the things that i am hopeful that will be changed as a result of the infrastructure bill and in terms of the legislation that we have got going that will enable greater encouragement of people at the supply chain. working in terms of infrastructure and guaranteeing that manufacturing and that united states union, jobs that

pay more, these are things that a deal with the disparity of wealth. we could go on forever in terms of talking about problems with the housing structure. we have shut out moderate and low income, in many cases black americans from being able to actually purchase homes and generate wealth. there is a range of these things that need to be addressed that we are, i am hopeful we, are starting to see americas realize that having more greater participation and generating wealth and access to good paying jobs as part of that. one of the things we did is have a minimum corporate tracks the things that we have done for the infrastructure in part are paid for by our minimum tax on the part of corporations. some of whom pay nothing at all. it is more equitable. >> are you still there, jerry? i am curious where you asked the question?

>> i agree with most of what you are saying. they own 80 per 6% of the wealth. at least 14% to be spread out over 80% of the populace. that's pretty much like spreading one pat of butter over eight pieces of bread. somebody's bread is not going to be butter. one of the most powerful politicians, yet we rank number one -- we lack six on life expectancy, the list goes on. the problem in this country, isn't politicians, it's the voters that keep putting back in there. this man has been in office as a young man. i am an old man now. thank you for your time. you have a great day. >> i appreciate your callers observations. it is time to make sure that we enable part of what we are

doing in this proposal. it is signed into law. have more people dedicated to make sure that those who owe taxes pay taxes. the compliance on the part of the wealthiest 2% is abominable. they are not paying the taxes that are already owed. this gap, they call it a tax gap, results in hundreds of billions of dollars that should be paid that are not collected. and that is part of what we have done to strengthen the irs and make sure that the top 2%, we forget what they owe, they are encouraged to do so. >> dennis in florida, democratic color. >> good morning, c-span, thank you for taking my call. i have been a big fan on the

representative ever since i started watching c-span. a one small correction to your earlier. chief of police, i believe, in orlando. >> you are right, sorry about that, thank you for the correction. >> the thing that bothers me about what the previous guest, the republican representative with, all of the advertisement that i am watching right now regarding the upcoming general elections. the republicans are making the case that if they are allowed to take full control of both houses, all of a sudden, just like in a storybook, they are going to pass over, like with a

magic wand, and the economy will be a okay again. interest rates will go down. prices will fall back to previous days. now, in 1980 when i brought my home here in florida it was 14 and a half percent. yes, we paid a little bit more for products and services will. the only thing i can say right now is yes the training is on the right track. wait a minute, my family worked on the railroad. we need to keep moving forward, not backwards. >> congressman? >> i agree. my republican colleagues agenda is very narrow. it was to cut taxes for those

who needed the tax cuts the least. it was to undermine health care security. it refused to do work in dealing with the climate crisis. the caller from florida is seeing this up close and personal, as i am seeing in the pacific northwest the drought and horrific forest fires. what we put forward is a comprehensive effort to try to deal with these crises in a way that makes it different for american families. i am proud of the record we have going forward. my friends on the other side of the aisle have no agenda to strengthen health care and to deal with the climate crisis. and to deal with the supply chains. they provided no vote, not a single vote, for example, dealing with allowing the federal government to negotiate prescription drug prices. standard practice in the private sector. they made it illegal.

we are changing that. it is just one small example that's going to reduce cost for the american public. and to help people who need the most. >> mike in iowa. >> >> go ahead. i >> watch your show. >> how can this guy sit here, he's from or -- look at everything that oregon is going through. second of all, he is he the side attach? we are sitting here and we are watching this president two days ago tout how things are getting better. when inflation rate comes down, the dow dropped 1200 points. this guy here, he is smiling this that in the other. he is out of touch. >> let's get a reaction to this point that you made.

inflations up, the dow drops. is it better. >> the most recent indication, it is stable. it has not gone up. yes, there was a one day spike in the drought. there is five days in a row of very significant increases in the dow. these things are cyclical. but we have done as moving forward on a comprehensive effort. dealing with infrastructure. we put 568 billion dollars into and the scratch trucks are. all of the republicans in iowa voted against it. they are climbing credit for the projects that are coming to -- which, by the way, or badly needed. i am proud of the work that we have done to be able to provide resources for the american public and for health care and for rural hospitals and for infrastructure. we have done it without any help from the republican friends. >> we will go to tough in ohio.

jack, democratic color, you're talking with -- them ahead. >> yes, thank you. you are great. so they want to get here it was, how can i say this. >> we are listening, we lost you. timothy in georgia. an independent color. timothy? >> yes, good morning. i have a question. and your 3.2 trillion dollar spending bill, how much money did you allocate toward the tracking independent truckers. >> it isn't broken down in terms of specific categories. they are broad areas of investment. i have worked closely with the american trucking industry, who strongly supports what we did with infrastructure be able to help them move forward with

badly needed improvements. this is something that is going to make a difference for the trucking industry. it is going to make a difference for changing the water system. so children are not poisoned by drinking out of the fountains at schools. these are things that are desperately needed across the country that are going to be able to be accessed. much of the resources that have been allocated go through state and local governments. they are going to have an opportunity to use these resources to program them. and then to be able to make the most impact locally. there is a lot of local control. i am happy. things like broadband access. they are not specifically to this trucking industry, not specific to subsets of agriculture, manufacturing. broad categories that are available to the federal government and state local

governments to be able to make investments that they deemed are important. >> congressman, i want you to react to congressman steve scalise republican in louisiana on this abortion debate, we've been talking to our viewers this morning. after senator lindsey graham, a republican from south carolina, introduced that nationwide 15-week ban. here is yesterday, the gop, the leader at a press conference responding to a question about what house gop would do regarding abortion legislation if they win the house in november. >> we would need to see what our majority looks like. i think if you have seen, we are a party that defence life, we stand up for life. born alive actors ability when trying to bring to the fort every single member of the republican conference is a co-sponsor of the bill that said if a baby is born allowance aside the room, that baby should not be able to be murdered and call it abortion. yet, state like new york currently do that today. the democrats won't even bring a bill like that up. i will tell you this, they want

to try to contort this issue every day. they do not want to talk of the fact that their party has been so extreme, that they went from a party that used to say that they wanted abortions to be rare to today they want to mandate abortion all the way up into the birth of the child and have taxpayer funding pay for it. that is not where america is. so, we defend life not just inside the room, which we are proud to do, but we also defend life and communities. what you see in crime overtakes so many cities. as michael talked, about democrats were elected -- they don't want to just from the police, which they have done in many big cities. they have defended the police and that is having devastating consequences on coin. but there are also now going to no cash pay. look at them criminals out without even paying a dime after they have been charged with violent crimes and then they go and commit more violent crimes. people are not even safe in their communities. they do not respect life there. they do not respect life in our communities where they are saying over hundred thousand kids being killed by fentanyl overdoses that are coming

across the open southern border. if they actually respected life inside the womb, outside the room, in communities all across america, that would be working with us to fix these problems. but they will not. they just do not care. i think they're going to pay for it on november 8th at the polls. >> can he first respond to his arguing there that democrats are for abortions up to nine months. and that taxpayers would pay for them. >> steve is just being outrageous and unreasonable. it is not true. first of all, there are circumstances, rare, rare they, one and 100,000 or something, where there are consequences to the health of the mother. where there is more what he's talking about. that is not the vast majority. they are pivoting away from what they want to do,

restricting in terms of women's health. we have seen example after example across the country where they's extreme legislation has prevented being able to help mothers who are and who have suffered a miscarriage. their health care providers are reluctant to be able to take the procedure that would save her life. republicans are all over the map on this. they are running away from what they have said an extreme positions. they are scrubbing the websites. they are denying what they said just a few months ago. including lindsey graham, by the way. this is such an amazing effort to try to disguise what they have done. they have waged a war against reproductive freedom, the american public do not agree with them, you saw the results in kansas. their extreme positions was rejected. kansas voters wanted to -- we are very much in terms of the mainstream being able to

allow women, their family, their doctors to do what is in the best interest of women and their health and their families interest and these wild conversions are just simply not true. the same in terms of suggesting democrats don't care about public safety witnesses. a cartoon that steve has created republican talking points that may work on fox news and the true believers and that is not where these response for men and women who served in the senate and serve and local governments all involved with and it bears no relationship to reality and any of your viewers who know the men and women and what they are trying to do understand that it's just salacious and outrageous and ally. let's hear from stephen who is in lexington, kentucky. democratic collar. >> yes, good morning thank you for taking my call, c-span.

by the way, i love the merchandise. i have a sweatshirt. i'm gonna buy my wife a mug. great stuff, by the way. i love the representative. he is a great guy. i think highly of him because he is realistic. i wish he was my representative. my question for you, you have been i believe on the fifer federal legalization of marijuana and the safe banking act. i wanted to know where that was going? is it possible to get it done soon, before the election or i just want to hear the progress on it? >> i appreciate the question. it is true, i've been working on reforming our drug laws longer than any politician in the country. we started in oregon back in the 73. i have been working with safe banking, we passed through the house seven times. working at a broad reform

across the board with comprehensive legislation, passing the house twice. it is legislation that's being redeveloped in the senate. one of the things i'm most excited about is instead of what happened with your senator, mitch mcconnell was in charge. every cannabis reform piece of legislation was dead on arrival. current senate leadership, chuck schumer with finance committee chair ron why coy, booker, they have produced a comprehensive piece of legislation that they are moving forward with. they are embracing reform. it looks like we have a piece of legislation that could be on the continuing resolution, the bus pass registration to keep the government running that would enable us to get the safe banking legislation passed. we have a crisis in this

country. the people have decided on a state level 19 states legalizing cannabis that the ledger government will be out of touch. these stay legal businesses are sitting ducks for crooks. we have seen violent, we have seen these dispensaries across the country because they did not have access to banking. people know they are sitting on piles of cash. we have legislation that is passed, the house seven times, you're getting into position where i think we will be able to get across the finish line and the senate where mitch mcconnell can't strangle it. >> i, lean in connecticut, independent. hethank you very much for taking my call. and it is around that same topic about cannabis legislation. i won't repeat what some of the questions because it was

already answered by the representative. thank you very much for your efforts in all of this. i am a medical cannabis patient here in connecticut. we have half legalization. two things i wanted to say about it. first of all the social justice issue really is a big deal. connecticut, the movement that starting out with the best of intentions, boy has it become complicated! it has become complicated by money. it is kind of discouraging as far as that part of it goes. my concern about commercial cannabis production, the environmental consequences are big. they are really not paying much attention to that as this goes forward. i am concerned about a lot of it but the main thing is the plastic pollution involved in these disposable vape devices. not only to do with cannabis

but the nicotine could back a industry in general. these devices are plastic, you literally just throw them away when you're done. they're mixed materials. they are a big concern. thank you very much. >> i appreciate your sentiment. part of what i've been working on for years is to make it easier for medical cannabis to be available. i have legislation which i think actually may be able to pass, again, dealing with veterans access. right now, our veterans are not able to work with their own va doctors if medical cannabis is the best approach going forward. i have been in va facilities, i have had staff members say medical staff has saved my life. the federal government interferes with being able to have veterans having access to it. again, countless people that i have worked with indicate that

this has made the difference for veterans with post-traumatic stress, with chronic pain, traumatic brain injuries. in the past we passed out opioids to veterans like tic tacs. when the performance was actually worse we denied them opportunities for medical cannabis which is less addictive, more effective, by the way it is cheaper! i think this is another area we can get across the finish line. the reason i am optimistic is because the american public is with us. and has been hard to get through the senate but i think the circumstances are changing. the american people are the ones who have helped drive this, not the politicians. >> in del tonal florida, tim a republican. welcome to the conversation, good morning. >> i've got a question for this

gentleman here, okay. you are head of the ways and means committee suggested that you should tax people on future capital gains. okay, i knew also gonna allow us to be able to take tax breaks on the losses? i can go all the way back to 1976, first off when you did invest in stocks, long term capital gains used to be 30 bucks. then it went to six, now it's over a year. you talk about businesses, i have worked for two family run businesses. i have a daughter, her husband who run a family run business. what you guys don't seem to get and understand is all the regulations that the government seems to want to impose on small business, which is what

this country was built on, small businesses. it ends up to big corporations. you put more regulations on us. >> congressman? >> your friend is mixing apples and oranges. first and foremost regulations like food safety, auto safety, these are things designed for public health. we have had serious problems in the past where we eroded these important protections. time does not permit me to go through what happen in terms of when trump appointed somebody to inspect minds who was an executive with companies where workers died as a result of failures. regulation? it should be in place to protect workers. back in the reagan administration the capital

gains rate was the same as ordinary income. this is a button that goes up and down. there is a question on whether we should tax wealth money that is generated as a result of the result of investment and a higher rate or lower rate than what we, the people who work for a living. i am of the opinion that we shouldn't reward wealth overwork. this goes up and down. we have i think been responsible moving forward. we have worked to establish a minimum corporate tax of 15%. as i mentioned earlier there are many corporations who have paid zero. any look at the tax code will reveal that there are four more breaks for businesses and extraordinarily wealthy people than offer people who work and get a regular paycheck. the last thing i mentioned is the rate of tax evasion for the

wealthiest is far, far, greater. the further up you go in the income scale. they kind of forget to declare their income. that is another thing we are going to change. we are providing the iris the ability to work with extraordinarily wealthy people to remember the income they have that they should pay taxes on. there is no shortage of opportunities that have been given to the wealthiest and the special interests in terms of tax breaks in the code. i am hopeful that we will be able to continue the progress in changing that. congressman, earl blumenauer thank you for the conversation this morning with our viewers. we appreciate it. >> thank you, always a pleasure. >> waiting for the house veteran affairs committee to begin their meeting on the women's veterans health care

administration. this is expected to begin shortly. you are watching live coverage on c-span three. >> we are going to get to this abortion debate and what it means for the midterm elections in just a minute. some breaking news this morning out of the white house on those freight rail negotiations with the unions. this is from the labor secretary, marty walsh. treating out, moments ago falling more than 20 consecutive hours of negotiations at the department of labor, the rail companies and union negotiated came to a tentative agreement that balances the needs of workers, businesses, and our nations economy. he also wrote this, the biden administration applauds all parties for reaching this hard-fought, mutually beneficial deer. our rail system is integral to our supply chain. a disruption would've had catastrophic impact on industries, travelers, families across the country. we are going to dig into this issue at 9 am eastern time here

on c-span's washington journal. we will have an in-depth conversation with the wall street reporter about the rail industry and this deal that was struck earlier this morning. these tweets coming out at 5 am this morning. our first half an hour though, our conversation is about this 15-week national abortion ban proposed by senator lindsey graham. here he is earlier this week, along with pro-life groups, the leaders of them on capitol hill talking about this legislation. >> i feel comfortable that at 15 weeks the science tells us that the nerve endings are developed to the point that the unborn child feels pain. the theory of the case here is not to be like europe so much, it is to have a standard in america that would prohibit abortions during the birthing process at a stage where it is pretty clear from the science and most of the world should be

a no go. unless there is some extraordinary reason. we will be introducing this bill as a like, right now. [laughs] people will join, i hope it will be bipartisan. we will have a debate if we are allowed to bring it up as to why we are doing what we are doing. abortion is a contentious issue. america has got to make some decisions. the first thing i would say about the jobs decision is, abortion is not banned in america. it is left up to a elected officials in america to divine the issue. states have the ability to do it on the state level. we have the ability in washington to speak on this issue if we choose. i have chosen to speak. i have chosen to craft legislation that i think is reasonable in the eyes of the world. and i hope the american people

that 15 weeks pretty much strong majority of americans believe abortion should be the exception, not the rule. >> senator lindsey graham talking about this 15-week national abortion ban. republican leaders, republican members reacted by saying no, we want to leave it up to the states. here is yacob news. graham's abortion bill creates turmoil for the gop midterms strategy. look at this chart that they put together. since the supreme court decision in dobbs v. jackson women's health organization overturned jackson's health organization overturned the right to abortion about 30% of democratic campaign ads have mentioned the issue compared to 5% for republicans. lindsey graham was on fox news yesterday defending his proposal when the host, jesse

walters, confronts him. >> no one is saying you need to sit on the sidelines but yesterday wasn't the day to do that. yesterday was the day they lost all momentum when this inflation thing punched them right in the face. you gave them an hour. a lot of people don't like that. you could've done it on any other day just, like you could've delay the whole press conference just like joe she'd had to lay that stupid party. >> i take issue with that. i don't think there is a bad day to stand up for the unborn. what am i trying to say? america needs to have a policy that makes us a civilized nation. it would bother me that if a baby is aborted at 38 weeks in california or new york. what am i proposing for our country? at 15 weeks when the baby can feel pain you provide anesthesia to save its life if you operate on. you should be protected from being dismembered by an abortionist. that puts us in line with france, germany, great britain. they all have abortion bans below 15 weeks. i >> am with you on that. i'm not gonna apologize ever

apologize about standing up for the unborn. you know what? we need to go on the offense here. >> fox news, senator lindsey graham. back to the yahoo news article. they know that since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade decision legalizing abortion many republicans have been trying to straddle the gap between the parties core voter face which has long sought that outcome and independent voters who, polls show, are in favor of abortion rights. whose support may be key to the outcome and several electoral battlegrounds. that has met playing down issues in many senate campaigns, deferring to the states. at least it doesn't have bands and more concerning restrictions. grants for puzzle, announced tuesday, for a ban after 15 weeks of pregnancy with exceptions in cases of rape, incest, or to protect women's life has toss issue back into the congressional campaigns. let's turn to all of you, does this motivate you one way or

the other to get out and vote in the midterm elections, and why? surely in orange berg south carolina. democratic collar. let's go to you first. good morning. >> good morning greta, the first thing i would like to say, i don't agree with lindsey graham on anything! why is he up there talking about abortion? he can't have a baby, he can't give a baby because he is gay. i would like to say to the people of south carolina, when are we going to vote this guy out of this office? i don't know anything that he does for the state of south carolina. he up there talking about abortion. >> surely, does this issue of abortion motivate you? do you feel more enthusiastic about voting this november? >> well, of all the time! of course i'm gonna be the first one in line voting against lindsey graham. >> all right, john in brooklyn new york. democratic collar. hi john. >> how are you?

>> good morning. >> good morning, how are you, greta? john salter from brooklyn, new york. i'm clergy. i don't want to say to all the clergy all the so-called christians, if you call yourself christian out there why they don't stand up and tell people abortion is a sin of having a lie, having pride, thinking you're better than other people. clergy should stand up. abortion is killing the unborn! god don't see big sin and little sin. why the clergy don't call in and let people know this? those people out there are living against the rules, against gods commandments. when it comes to abortion, sometimes homosexuals, they want to pin on that. god don't see little big and big's in. why don't christians tell that? >> john, heard that point. lou, in highland park,

illinois. democratic collar. >> good morning. i'm sorry, my voice is scratchy. how about a woman's health? why do they discriminate against women's health? if she has an infection or she has hemorrhaging, shouldn't that be allowed for an abortion? why do they discriminate? why don't they think women can't make up their own minds? >> listen to the reaction by the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell of kentucky when he is asked about senator graham's proposal this week. >> lindsey graham has this 15-week abortion ban. if you take the senate, will you put this on the floor of the senate for a vote? or will you commit to leading this issue entirely up to the states? >> well, if we go to his bill you'll have to ask him about it. in terms of scheduling i think most of the bumpers of my conference prefer that this be dealt with at the state level.

>> with regard to the abortion issue, are republicans -- do you feel like republicans are doing enough? it seems like democrats are kind of controlling the issue right now. saying that your grandmother had more rights than you. do you feel that republicans need to do a better job of educating americans? >> i think every republican senator running this year in these contested races has an answer as to how they feel about the issue. it may be different in different states. i leave it up to our candidates who are quite capable of handling this issue to determine, for them, what their response is. >> senator mitch mcconnell, leader of the republicans in the senate. 5:38 out with new polling that shows democrats are favored to win the senate. the deluxe version of our model stimulates the election 40,000 times to see which party wins

the senate most often. the sample of 100 are come gives the idea of a range the outcome that the model considered possible. this is out this morning from 5:38. senator lindsey graham, the republican of south carolina proposing on tuesday a 15-week national bought and ban. we want to know how this impacts your vote in november. here is mike pence in an interview, real clear politics. he said abortion ban is more important than short term politics. the former vice president hosted the supreme court for overturning roe v. wade. celebrated the lawmakers who had conserved the conservative supreme court majority behind the dobbs decision. told those by a susan b anthony group in the nation's capital that they had only reached what he called, the end of the beginning. bob, in logan, utah. democratic collar.

bob, good morning to you. what do you think about this debate? this 15-week ban and the impact on it in november? >> well, i personally don't believe in late term abortions. i also feel that life has to begin at conception. there is no other way. all these people with their nose in the air about some poll women getting an abortion when you swallow a pill that aborts that life, i don't care if it is two seconds or ten minutes, you know? after 15 months than it should be questioned -- the woman's life should be saved. i guess that's all i want to say. >> all right joseph in maryland, and independent. joseph, you according to yahoo news, you are the type of voter

that republicans want in the november elections. and depend voter, how do you plan to vote? does this important debate impacted? >> the the bait around abortion is pretty important. i am a christian. i do not want anyone to be killed. but the issue of abortion is not about a boarding children it is about a woman's right. women need to be restricted. they need to be put as men do. man have no business determining the rights of women. this is not about abortion, it is a political issue that has been brought in a long time ago, so that republicans can have some sort of in advantage by trying to convert evangelicals and all other christians that babies are being killed.

that is not the issue. the issue is about women's right. i think anyone who advocates for women's rights should be on the side of saying let the family and let the woman decide. so, let's keep abortion away from politics. leave that to the family and to the woman. >> okay, joseph. >> give women that respect. >> states are reacting to the dobbs decision by the supreme court. here is abc news, indiana abortion ban goes into effect despite ongoing lawsuits. the ban would replace the state's previous 22-week ban. it went into effect thursday. the ban will limit access to more them up a 5 million people of reproductive age in indiana. it was the first state to pass an abortion ban since the u.s. supreme court, this comes as a lawsuit filed by abortion providers challenges that legality of the law under the state constitution.

you also have this from upi, this headline, west virginia becomes the second state to pass near total abortion ban. both houses of the republican controlled legislature passed a house bill on tuesday with the house voting 77 to 17 in its favor of the abortion ban followed by 22 to 7 vote in the senate. the bill now heads to the desk of west virginia governor jim justice who has previously signed other abortion restrictions into law. if he signs off, west virginia would be the second state to institute such stringent restrictions on the medical procedure following the supreme court's revoking of roe v. wade. rob in michigan, independent. hi rob, good morning to you. >> good morning, thank you for taking my call. i think if we look at the history of this nation, going back 250 years a bunch of people said we deserve human

rights to be recognized. there were some that disputed that. there was a war far, we achieved that mission. 100 years later they said, these rights and not only for white males but black people deserve the same rights. again another war was not because people disagreed on that. the extension of those rights occurred. throughout the decades, we didn't need a war but those rights were extended to women. they were extended to native americans. >> we are going to leave this program but you can watch the rest at c-span dot org as we take you live here at c-span three to a hearing on women's veterans getting health care to the women's health administration. the house veteran affair committee is holding the hearing. if you wish to have a document inserted into the record please ask for unanimous consent. have your staff email the document to veterans affairs dot hearings dot male.gov. without