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>> wow, along with these television companies, support c-span 2 as a public service. >> good evening everyone. welcome to the national world war i museum memorial located here in kansas city, missouri. my name is james todd. and the public program specialist here for the memorial. it is my great passion to welcome you here for women and warfare with lieutenant colonel nikki dean. now to introduce our speaker tonight, i will also say the view she will be stating or not reflective of the united states army, the department of defense, the command and general staff college or the underlying arm of the united states rv. lieutenant colonel, nikki dean, has 21 years of active service including multiple tours to iraq and afghanistan. by train she is an army helicopter pilot. currently, for her second time, isn't army doctor and writer.

originally she is from buffalo, new york. is very emotionally conflicted every time the chiefs and bills play each other. she has been stationed around the united states, germany, as well as in korea. in her own words was, super, super, fun. she has multiple degrees and studies both history as well as museum studies. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming to the stage lieutenant colonel nikki dean. >> [applause] so, thank you all for the extremely warm welcome. i will say it is a bit daunting to be standing on the side of the podium as opposed to sitting out in the audience, which is where i usually am, for this incredible institution. i had james said my name is nikki, tonight i would like to

talk to you about something that is incredibly important to both the life that i have land for the past 20 years as a soldier, but more importantly to talk about an amazing insight into this constantly changing and evolving world where i work. which is in u.s. army doctrine. i have a fierce love and passion for what we produce out of the army. more importantly because, more than just writing books or putting words down on paper, it is an opportunity to share the body knowledge with new readers. to reach a whole new audience, especially in these changing, sometimes socially difficult, times. it is in incredibly important work that we do. so, i am happy to share this incredible chance to talk to you tonight. here, in this incredible museum. i promise you if you are wondering out in the audience are wondering if this will ever relate back to world war i or

operation in the european theater, worldwide, promise you we will get there by the end of the night ... first and foremost, before we really get into the mean details of this discussion, i think it helps a little bit to establish a baseline. we are talking about doctrine tonight. i know sometimes can feel like, especially if you are a military member, a little bit of a dry topic. i promise, we will get to something interesting in the end. we are going to talk a little bit about the things that our military doctrine. not just a concept itself but the archives. the items that we include. quotes in vignettes. we will talk a little bit about who gets quoted, why they get quoted, and answer a really deep, personal question for both me and actually, for several service members who are out there. female service members. we are at the women? we will talk a little bit about

the women who have informally influence military doctrine. surprise! they did in fact influence a lot. i theater of warfare in the body of knowledge itself. we will also look at the development of warfare. women who are making and roads in view how we view tactics and techniques, the arrangement of forces on the battlefield. it tends to be very technical and also a very niche kind of world to live in and right for. and i will bring it back to probably one of the most important books that i had a chance to contribute very small amount to and play a very small on a very important team. i also need to share a caveat. if you're listening, someone might try to call me out on the use of the word caveat, by the way it is found in nato doctrine. go to that resource first.

when we discuss women's roles in military history, in the military about $1 jewelry military doctrine it opens up a can of worms. [inaudible] i understand this can feel like iterant topic. to recognize there have been women stories, for stories of other communities that have been lost. words that have been lost that potentially contributed, or could contribute, to a deeper discussion about the theory of warfare. about tactics and techniques. there are historians, historians who are making amazing active effort to put that experience of why those words were missing into context. more importantly to try to find those lost and missing words. those historians are doing incredible work right now as we speak. also, to a certain extent, they have uncovered some truths that, on occasion, even women who

participated in the development of geopolitical strategic ease of strategic forces. who talked about tactics and the order deployment of forces, sometimes those women were historically expected because of certain reasons, they were amplified for certain reasons. to certain extent, sometimes they behaved and gatekeepers. wrong or right, it is just the way that that historical experience is. so, what about doctrine? i would like to start off with this. about once a year once a year will someone will send me this. as james pointed out until spent two tours in the military working about doctrine. aviation doctrine and -- this always ends up usually on my social media in a direct message, typically from a junior officer who is either experiencing doctrine for the first time, or experiencing

this mean for the first time. they think it's hilarious! personally, i love it. i love it. i love that some of my peers who are a little older in the military and have been around the block time or two, they also find funny. to a certain extent, a little bit poignant. at the same time i don't think there is a single officer, and ceo, corman officer, civilian profession are out there who would actually say they are going to wing in doctrine. that is just not how we work as a military. so what is doctrine? to put it plainly, in order for us to have this discussion we have to establish, like i said, that common framework. the common frame of reference. it will help us -- the current operating environment. one of the books that we write as the army exist. doctrine is, as i said a couple of times now, the body of

knowledge that guides us, guides military forces. it's not just that, it's a common language that we all speak. it's broken by all of us that don't necessarily even wear the uniform. it is a codification principles tactics, techniques, even procedures to a certain extent. it is often viewed as -- is a largely [inaudible] . sometimes needing to be prescriptive but only when it is absolutely necessary. usually in very close keeping to the way that we structured our body knowledge. the techs honoree that we use for the books that we read. most importantly, this is absolutely important to know. it is always evolving. it is not a stagnant book that is written and then dumped on the shelf and hopefully lieutenant finds it someday. it is periodically updated. we periodically update books.

it is important because the experiences that we learn are ones that are constantly feeding into the way that we update these principles, procedures, tactics and techniques. i have said on a number of occasions -- to make it easier for myself to understand as both a writer and a user of doctrine, doctrine is the best idea i could have. [inaudible] we never have to actually -- heard most recently from professor at that school of advanced military studies, and kind of stuck with me she said to me doctrine is an artifact. wow, that hit hard. she is right. she is right. it exists and a moment in time in the army. it captures and demonstrates an evolution of ideas when we look

at it holistically, across the entire time period that the manuals have existed and evolved. like we said, they are constantly evolving. most importantly, and this is when she said that, it provides a definitive insight into our values as an institution at a particular moment in time. so, where does that leave us? well, if we are going to talk about doctrine as an artifact, perhaps it is time to refrain that idea a little bit. look at doctrine on the table [inaudible] concepts that are discussed, even yet that survive historical context, the quotes that are manifestation, the materials that are covered are all of the artifacts. the things that we collect

together. when we go to museums to find commonality throughout history using those bits of material that we see behind the trends behind glass, we understand ourself. it is buzzing away with doctrine manuals to a certain extent. we, the united forces, our allied joint sister services. to a certain extent, documentary services. all of us go to doctrine to find the common lexicon that we can speak. i know, that you know, that we all know, that that thing we are talking about means the same thing. also it helps us better understand how we all do the ordered arrangement of forces -- common standard or common and stay. so, why put quotes in doctrine. i've often asked myself that question. i know for a fact i've been

cornered on several occasions, cornered, on social media and asked, why would we put that stuff in there? well, we put quotes in doctrine because we want to show certain principles, certain techniques, certain tactics and show them in context. this stuff has existed throughout the course of history. i think it was mark twain who said history doesn't repeat but it rhymes. it's fairly poignant to see that reflected and a historical quote that leads into material that will be introduced to a brand-new reader for the first time. it shows the fundamentals of how we do offense, defense, instability, in context. one famous ones did those things. therefore, i'm learning them now as i read the doctrine themselves. also, i believes it breaks up the monotony of reading.

sometimes it can be a painfully dense book. introduces historical moments which are distilled into a memorable turn of phrase. it's a nice breakup. it is an asset to put into a book. selfishly, as a amateur military historian it encourages curiosity. it encourages us to learn more. especially at a time in which we see individuals who are coming into their own as tactician's. it encourages us to look at ourselves and reflect and see if our institutions are defending the values that we ourselves hold dear. for me, in my work, and the police that i work it began as the draft of a book. like i said, periodically we go through the process of redraft-ing doctrine. it is a common occurrence.

[inaudible] corner store of army doctrine is a book that really influences refinement of tactics across the army. it influences allied doctrine as well. as part of a peer review process prior to official publication, we send our draft out to an audience. we send them out typically to a universal or wider army staff. or a wider army audience. we released now and wait for feedback. from those individuals, we get some pretty good feedback on occasion. it's kind of important because we, as authors, we are just humans writing books. to receive some preconceived notions of what a doctrine writer is for the united states military, we all come from varying backgrounds. we come from numerous branches. this is across the spectrum of operation or across the spectrum of the force.

that blend of service members and army civilians who also contribute to it, most of them have prior military experience. while we appreciate military history and we are not solely historians in and of ourselves. what we do is work within the existing body of knowledge. we will look at the experimentation. evaluation of -- we will look to see whether or not we need to evolve, based on the feedback from the force. also, because we are humans, as writers, we tend to fall prey to our own inherent by sees. we have to acknowledge that right off the bat. it is a difficult job day-to-day. i myself am no different. i contributed to this book that we prepared in a very small way. as i was studying in gathering all the things i needed to write a more bounce and

comprehensive approach to maritime operation what wound up occurring to me when i fell back to looking for artifacts from some old familiar. i went to nimitz, i went to corbett, i went to slim to think about extended operation. and even to a certain extent, candy. looking for things that would help to bring a certain manifestation of the material that i was covering. they could limit off what someone is apt to think of its history. i am a female service member and i did not recognize my own bias. i didn't even do it when i was sitting in writing about the principles of war. to recognize one's own gap, as any writer knows, we all have to begin with a draft at some point. that is how writing works. taking feedback in asking for

feedback is also crucial. so, when feedback came back to this basic came from a really unusual space, actually. it came from a tweet on social media and asking why the perfect artifacts that were distilling this material that we were introducing where they're no women? which prompted me to ask my own questions about how women have in our influencing military operation in the body of knowledge today. i did what any person who is a gen x but borderline millennial might do. i took to twitter. i asked the wealth of knowledge on twitter and tossed it to a bunch of individuals. twitter did not disappoint at all. what i got back was genuinely

insightful and encouraging. this was something that was worth it to actually begin the process of asking the team that was writing the new version, would they be amenable? what they want to include this or think it was appropriate? so the question i had asked because that team was already leading the effort to begin the process of including women. and to include the ideas of women about tactics and techniques into the book themselves. they had preemptively struck and making sure they were finding somebody that would best reflect the organization and reflect manual that we were writing. so, a little bit about putting in quotes and manuals. obviously women have often influence military operation but to actually put a quote, in a book, in a military book of all things. as doctrine writers we want to lay down a foundation of what

we thought would be good. we wanted to have quote many quotes honestly. i've been yeah historical inch and you have to eventually determine who is gonna make the cut. we can't have all the artifacts. it's just not something we will be able to hold. most of all there was an important reason to look at who bask manifest to who best represents the material we were covering. the team that was leading this effort established i'm pretty amazing parameters. it had to be a new generation of tactician's. we didn't necessarily want to have someone who was mythical. and much joan of arc in boat a ceo or a meeting and provide a wealth of inspirational words they want to have someone that was realistic. someone who was authentic and

approachable. even if i were ellen attendant i could aspire to be like. someone who i could feel encouraged to go up in here more from. it prompted a question of metoo. a deeper question, especially as they were beginning that heavy lifting about whether or not a woman had ever influenced a military operation or military by 90 of knowledge prior to this. when i say military it was primarily this military theory in syria victory. ough t o be able tospoiler alert. women do influence the body of knowledge, right? when i started i was lucky enough to be able to start with a woman who are thinking very deeply at times on war. it is no secret that con tessa maria vaughan brew influence the war of encore.

the various translations including what we use at the command college currently, it would not be -- we would not be able to give you a translation if it were not for her efforts in championing her husband's work and continuing on the effort to bring it to publication following his passing in 1831. the preface of most additions that you can get today i asked translation, she actually wrote. she said, those who knew of our happy marriage. the snow we shared everything not only joy or pain but every occupation, every task of daily life. the task at the time could not occupy mentally husband without becoming at the same time thoroughly familiar to me. following closets's death in 1831 marines choice to publish the manuscript on war with the western world i would say the

most influential theories of warfare that is still studied to the three-day. one american academic actually did the math and provided to me. the most quoted individual in army doctrine, military doctrine, currently. the choice to publish the book on war, largely an altered by the way, was kind of controversial after her husband death. it was quickly realized that she that was influencing the ideas of car all [inaudible] i would say by about 2012 and incredible treasure trove of these personal correspondence began being included into the academic body of knowledge. more importantly they were discovered by the tireless work of a woman author in women military historian vanya bella unger. murray vaughn kravitz --

she opened up a door into the relationship between husband and wife as the mutually developed what i personally would consider one of the most influential books on how we think of theory a victory today i would say marines after and advocating for iran's right place in history was irrevocably saved the fabric of western military theory, i might be alone in that but i suspect i'm not really that alone she has continued to shape it throughout the 21st century to doing much like this woman so advancing ourselves into 24 century there are a few women who influenced the geopolitical theory quite the way that gertrude lower the in

bell in fact she also worked in the region two years ahead of him before he arrived. a man who, let's face it, the seven pillars became one of the most influential works of that era. and challenging and it's complicated in the middle east is given the arc of what we now know, research and archivist primarily working at the national archives have recently begun comparing and contrasting bells work and lawrence's work make use of military public records and swell as personal correspondence what they found was doctor juliette to plan that she is the head of modern overseas intelligence and national archives in q gardens. -- we influence on military theory with pretty compelling actually. it's not to say that

geopolitically she influence without question her ability. to influence diplomacy regional politics regional alliances all of that is unquestioned. what is definitely known what exactly seen is that she plainly shaped intelligence gathering doctrine. he also had numerous opportunities to participate in geographical surveys and develop the understanding of how we interact and understand a deeper cultural context of the people that we work with. this is, for a lot of folks, foundation of what we consider counterinsurgency. foreign internal defense doctrine today. human doctrine. primarily human intelligence doctrine and technique could find an excellent ally in corker bell. a woman who definitely influence the way that we think, despite some of the challenges that existed in her life.

moving forward -- i apologize. i advanced a little quickly there. moving quickly into the 20th century, it is wonderful to have a chance to talk about this woman. where i work is commanding control doctrine. real admiral grace mary hopper is an incredible, incredible, person. she is the naval reserves manifestation of a lovelace, catherine johnson, she did it all in a naval uniform working for the naval reserve. she is most known for her quote, coincidently it stuck its way into british doctrine most notably. the most damaging phrase is, we've always done it this way. she is the mother of machine independent programming languages, loss length cobalt. coincidentally, still in use today. cobalt is not a particular language i'm gonna discuss

today about her or anything about that. it would quickly outstrip my knowledge of ai, data mapping, network integration, camp man post integration. i realize that the distribute operation in command post integration, that is my bailiwick. or one of them, when it comes to developing doctrine. in the 1970 she advocated to the permanent defense specifically to replace these large centralized system with distributed smaller computers. what this does is allow a user interface to work with the computer node and therefore getting common databases across the network. this influences the way we do distributed operation today for a command post. more importantly, the idea of requiring, vetting, in testing standards for universal or components make sure we have increasing interoperability. which is important for multinational operations and

joint operations today. also, we cannot make it to the modern battlefield which is data and treating communities-centric without the idea that this woman contributed directly to our concept of distributed operation. our concept of survive ability, especially for command posts. he had to be a mission type orders and decentralized operations or decentralized execution relies on commanders. commanders that rely on computers and ultimately rely and grace hoppers influence. like i said, these three women are not directly quoted. some have made it in. they have an influence and lasting impact on how we think of the body of knowledge. how we develop military doctrine. how we do build military operations. what about the future? litary what about where we currently

sit? put our influencers aside for just a second and think about the women who are currently discussing military operations. right off the bat, there is an opportunity to champion, i know in the future there will be tons of women influencing this discussion. people like olivier gerard whose work on annotated guided tactics easing car level on clouds it's very ugly combat to be able to break down some of these more calm than -- present them in a way that is usable, understandable, and engage-able for young leaders today in the military. most of you who work here or who have participated in events here are familiar with amy fox. she is a historian who talks about learning to fight -- [inaudible]

on she is absolutely critical to the way that we look at training doctrine currently. also there are other books out there that have a huge impact on the way we do know routine more. another book i want to talk about is the identical who brought the idea that maybe women should be quoted in doctrine. also the one that closets is the most quoted man. elena wicker, she focuses her studies on the idea of the military lexicon. the language that we use and some of the patterns that how it can be used and misused across the military. this was just a few off the top of my head, honestly. there is a litany of other women historians and women theorists are out there shaping the way we view the words. to be able to look at them, to see what they have included in their own work and to include

it into military doctrine. or to be able to recognize it in military doctrine to show how it could potentially shape the material and introduce the material that we cover is an amazing opportunity. i have also been asked, where are the women eisenhower's? where are the women patterns, pershing? the generals that we all want to see quoted in big bold letters across the top of any chapter. i am proud to say that those individuals are coming. most of those young people, who over the past ten years we've only had women integrated into the combat arms, this is important to know because those individuals who will become the future patents and eisenhower's who we quo so -- they are in their between commands right now. they are in that company battery command. we are learning how to employ forces. we are developing different forces.

to a certain extent the battalion and brigade commanders. my counterparts in aviation, communication, air defense, those individuals are in those commands right now. they are developing the experiences which will become crucial to them as they become division corps commanders in the future. the people who actually become significant technicians on the battlefield, the ones who will be watch closely for the words that they share. along with this, women have always been advocating for the body of knowledge that we have. 20% of the doctrine writers in the united states military are women. women writers. along with this this barely scratches the service into professional military journals into military press houses all of it contributing to the chance to find these missing stories, these missing words across the united states military.

what about the book that we drafted? honestly, it is fitting we are at the warmer one museum to discuss who i'm going to discuss next. barbara worth men tuchman was born in new york city on january 12th. she is a right cliff grad. this barely scratches the service for honorary doctorates that she received for literature throughout her storied career as a historian. she has written numerous distinguished books. novels, not novels. i apologize. books and articles, distinguish yourself as a historian in her own right. not just a historian but a military theorist as well. 1963 her pulitzer prize-winning book, the guns of august was unveiled. followed sharply on its heels in 1971 she also contributed

again and still well in the american experience in china, earning her second pulitzer. she wasn't just a pulitzer prize-winning writer, she was also a very astute thinker. and institutes thinker who, in 1972, was requested to speak to hear the army college on the subject of generalship. her speech was copied and published on the journal of parameters. the journal which is still produced by the school house today. that speech was remarkable. the statement that it made about generals, leaders on the battlefield addressing complex operational environments and using most importantly the language of the man that she was addressing at the time i did not know that this speech existed it was introduced actually by the leadership that was working on one i actually got the chance to ride it i

agree with my teammates that it gave me chills for how accurate and how relevant is fell today. coincidentally that 1992 additional parameters, volume to -- issue number one if you are interesting and googling. it her speech ran behind an article of leadership from omaha bradley. another article caught my eye which was the impact of societal change on the u.s. army on william houser. that one cell extremely point because you literally could've removed much like tuchman's speech in article it would have literally been reprinted in journals today and it would still be incredibly relevant and incredibly poignant to some of the things that the military is continuing to work through 50 years later 50 years later another group of activists rioters were putting their touch on fm 30 operations which is the book of doctrine from the united states army.

determining which quotes in which vignettes would make the cut. they decided, settled through some pretty amazing leadership and some pretty amazing research that to foster young female tactician's in the future, it was time they include her arguments in her thoughts and doctrine. this is the team [inaudible] i am really proud to be a female service member who worked alongside some of these individuals. it takes really insightful, forward thinking leadership -- historically minded leaders, also. to advocate for that change into overcome challenges. the army doctrine community, specifically the organization where i work is really lucky to have leadership like that. it also helps, to ethan extent,

that we had some very diligent doctrine writers. individuals who are willing to work hard who are also willing to cooperate to get the best representation for their book. the best representation for the material we were covering more importantly to actually partner with the tuchman estate to put words that were extremely poignant to the material they were discussing. in truth, it helps to be able to see oneself as a female service member. the work that these gentlemen did to be able to see myself better reflected in the institution i am so proud to see the work that they did to do this where do we go from here? i suppose there is a question to be asked about what remains to be done finding the theories that are out there. as i said before there are historians out there doing

incredible work. along with that it takes fostering from the community. it takes mentorship in growth. i'm lucky enough to work with an organization and a team that is absolutely committed to the idea that there is something good about doing historical research look into the past as well as the present and future to determine how the army's body of knowledge needs to evolve. for that i am deeply grateful to work where i do you and to work with the army in the current position that i do. i think there is a question to be asked about how do we find in foster the next female eisenhower. the one that might have the best words to distill the operations tactics and techniques all into a few meaningful words that will introduce the chapter. i'm happy to know that that work will be done well into the future. in the end i think the team that did fm three l operations for the united states army has added an incredibly important artifact that is our doctrine.

most importantly it is a representation of the future of the institution itself. i think, honestly, it is a -- where we are going in the future. i would like to thank you for your time today and your interest in wanting to listen to this. i know most people look at military doctrine and think of it as a dry topic. the ability for me to share this. to know that there is growth that is occurring especially in something that is so small that scene so miniscule but it is so incredibly important. i can't thank you for the audience and although the national war one museum enough for the attention that you gave today [applause] >> if you have a question for lieutenant colonel

dean, please feel free to step up to either of the two microphones provided. if you need any additional assistance please ask and we welcome -- those of you watching on youtube feel free to share your questions in the chat box. they will be read off in person. [inaudible] my question around's your allusion to next generation leaders, the female eisenhower. do you think that their experience in recent wars in iraq and afghanistan will give them a different view than other soldiers who have not had that experience? is there a value that came out of the fact for a massive

emergency operation paton, eisenhower, who fought in a traditional war in europe? >> i hope so. honestly, i genuinely hope that the influence of the operations currently done the blazes where we currently serve, i would love to think that those experiences continue to reflect and they continue to mature within that individual, whoever she might be. wherever they might be. i want them to continue to grow. as a doctrine writer, as someone who will, eventually, leave the army. they keep my seats and someone else can come in. we are supposed to work ourselves out of the job. that is the whole point. i hope they retain that unique experience. they allow them to continue to grow. especially when we talk about the idea of constant -- military doctrine. that will become a crucial idea that we cannot live behind.

>> question for you from someone here on the internet. thank you lieutenant colonel dean. this was eloquent. how did you get into the job of doing what you do? >> great question. the military is coming around -- or the army is coming around to this idea of manage talent and giving a chance to individuals who display certain key skills or key mindset. i had an opportunity, i won't point as i was leaving a job where i was training and assisting mobilization for our component soldiers. all of a sudden i saw job pop up on what we know as aim to. it's almost like a job search. next thing you know i'm getting a chance to contact the doctor

and the amazing colonel retired which creed to ask if it would be possible for me to use the skills that i learned as an aviation doctrine writer. to come back and work with the doctrine community again. boy, i can't thank him enough for the benefit that he gave me. he has also given me a chance to really work with incredible individuals. more importantly to work and champion the body of knowledge for readers. it is absolutely an amazing opportunity. >> thank you for your presentation. this question addresses your experience more as a doctrine writer. with fm three dash o codifying the domain occupying -- and the new occupation environment. how do you foresee the army reconciling a generally gender blind doctrine base with the incredible -- with the environment gendered. >> oh, that is a great question. like i said, as a woman, as a

female service member, it is difficult to balance to you and against that bill, right? the balance you have has, regardless of where you came from previously, you are always going to have that. it is important to be able to recognize that it is an opportunity for you to examine the work of other. and put that in context. the approach that a doctrine writer, a female writer takes may not be inherently different from her male counterparts or -- ultimately, you bring a different perspective. you bring a perspective on the idea of integration, partnership, team building. how we do planning. how we structure certain integrating functions, right? all of it. the idea that, even inherently speaking, women provide and

different perspective -- especially when you are only active service i believe is 17%, currently, that serve as women service members. you can't escape it. at the same time, let's say, eventually all of us and up joining the group think a little bit. when that is happening looks like it did for me always falling back to the old favorites of maritime operation. recognizing that happening, that is the kicker, that is the key. does that answer your question? >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i. i give my question is a little more generic -- i was curious, what is your writing process look like? whether it's a collaborative state or the parts unit is

working on your own? i guess the second part is, is there another subject matter that you are looking at now another thing you are interested in in the future? >> two parts to it. i will say, most of us i'll i will speak to myself and what i like to do or what i would prefer to do a lot of us will come together we look at the process for the evolution of a book. recognizing that the book itself or maybe it's time for us to change or perhaps the book is amazing and needs no change at all that process of doing the research behind it or doing the lessons learned the exercises that are going on information coming back from the field itself usually that resides in the wheel house of the person who was assigned authorship of the manual. a lot of time it is a collaborative thing.

none of us who work in a group together can escape sharing ideas. some of the things i've working on have come from my coworkers. primary foster brenda leadership, it is crucial to us and making sure that we cover gaps eventually someone somewhere has got to sit down and put pen to paper and begin the process of writing. we thank our, sometimes it is not all gems. if it comes together from a team like eventually it is a beautiful polished jam by the time it leaves and then it changed again personally for the stuff that i'm working on

as i am preparing to transition out of the military. retiring in the next few months, i am still on the sidelines and what examine my peers do incredible work on things like information advantage, multi domain operations, tactics and the productions of a tactics manual. or the reproduction of a tactic manual. i am also a, i participate and host a podcast called breaking doctrine. it focuses on bringing doctrine out to a new generation using new media techniques. [inaudible] how we share the body of knowledge with professionals. >> lieutenant colonel dean, if you could share some understanding of doctrine that my how the american public and what the world looks like on a military front today?

>> that is a good one. you know the funny thing is's army doctrine is not secret. i will let you all in on this amazing thing about it. it is publicly available. there is some stuff hidden behind fireball obviously for reasons of control information but there is a large component of our body of knowledge that is available to anyone around the world. you can go to the army publishing director website and literally scroll through directives -- through doctoral publication through training doctrines you can literally see everything about the theory of warfare the theory of victory that the army uses. how it approaches operations. none of it is hidden. which is fine because sometimes it feels like it is hidden from new readers it is even better when i find out that civilians,

individuals who would not be considered the -- very, very, curious and extremely excited to be able to read the books that we write as my boss has often heard me say probably a little too frequently so, what's it is a book if no one reads? that, i feel like that is an opportunity to share with everyone to share with the greater american populists your forces are not arbitrary. before's is out there doing operations are not doing them arbitrarily. like i said we never just do them on the fly. we are in fact very deliberate in the way that we do tactics, techniques, and procedures. we have proof on the website which is available on your phone, we tenant. >> you have learned a lot of different hats in your time. what was something you were surprised by when you shifted from the person receiving

doctor into the person writing doctrine? is there anything you wish you could convey to the average person in the army about what your process and what your work is like? >> going from a reader to a rider -- where i was the person that shared the mean, i was the person that thought that was their areas. of course, the enemy would never figure it out. lo and behold, as i continue to advance to my career, i found out how incredibly the important mali body of knowledge was. especially when it came with my work as an of the -- working with ground forces it was absolutely imperative that i understood the offense, defense, the tactics and techniques they were using. they built their recipes, about the battle drills. once i understood and was able to communicate with ground forces more seamlessly, more holistically, it created a better and state overall, tactically. to a certain extent if i could

go back and tell my younger self to read doctrine, as a young officer i would probably just say don't just read the stuff oriented on you. don't just read the stuff that is on your service. in fact, read about the piers across the force itself. engage in use their books. that is where we actually get into the idea of combined arms operations. once we understand how our sister organizations or peer organizations to our right and left by, then we can begin the process of genuinely integrating arms. that is powerful. that is where the army's powerful. >> hello, ma'am. i actually have two questions for you. one, you mentioned maritime operation. is that targeted towards a potential future antagonist? you mentioned emmett first so i was thinking or that theater. also, how has the ukrainian

situation affected. did you put doctrine on pause for a moment and take a step back at what is happening today in how what -- >> i can only speak on those two things from my own opinions with my own effective. when i -- i will answer your second question first. when i look at the current operations going on in ukraine, as many of my peers do, we think about operations in general, we are looking and observing those lessons from both sides. partly because it gives us and eliminates those tactics and techniques and put some in the context of a real battlefield. [inaudible] to do the best for our soldiers. battlefields of other wars, other operations that are going on. every professional across not just the united states military

but our joint in allied as well, they are all doing it. as far as land operations in a dominant environment. there is a large portion of the world that is covered by water. it stands to reason that -- looking at the historical perspectives and how we've done. especially at the second world war and also to the second world war it gives us an insight into how we can evolve our understanding of amphibious operations joint operations and that helps us shape the way we train the operations that may occur in the future doesn't answer your question, sir? >> ladies and gentlemen if you would join me one more time and thinking lieutenant colonel nikki dean [applause]

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