welcome to our april conservative women's network. those of you here and in polyunsaturated virginia and those of you watching on c-span,

i'm michelle easton president of the clare booth luce center for conservative. and it's great to see you all this. cw actually began 23 years ago, and it brings women from all over this area d.c., washington and maryland, sometimes even further to come together and hear from conservative women leaders and writers discussing key issues. and then afterwards we get to network at lunch. now to introduce today's speaker bethany mandel bethany will be talking about bestselling book stolen youth how radicals are racing innocence and indoctrinating a generation. the key idea that i have discerned from your book is that our children are not all right and. too many children today are miserable if they've been indoctrinated to question every building block of society from all the different education,

medicine, entertainment, culture and other areas. the idea that we can just be good parents creating healthy and happy home environments is not enough anymore. parents have to know more, do more to ensure their children are protected and don't get trapped in. today's overwhelming left wing indoctrination. that's also a theme of my book, bethany. it's called how to raise a conservative daughter that the good old days of moms and dads. you know, just sitting back and watching their children grow up are gone. and the focus of our institute here, the luce center, is to prepare young women for motherhood and leadership in the country you to great conservative role like bethany. give them deeper knowledge on critical and to develop in them more confidence and courage what they need to stand up and, speak out and to raise informed and conservative children.

bethany has an impressive she's a columnist for news, a contributing writer for deseret news and editor of heroes of liberty which is a children's book series and a homeschooling mother of six. and we have a number of children with us today. and it's a pleasure to have them all here, including some of yours. she's also often the guest talk radio and on television. she's been on fox on one american news network and newsmax. she's extensively wonderful articles and pieces for the new york times, the new york post, the washington post, the washington examiner, newsweek spectator, and more. now, she graduated from rutgers university, which we were just is probably the most radical feminist university in america. and she had a degree in history and jewish studies. and she lives now with her

husband and, her six children aged nine years old to two months in maryland, following today's talk by bethany and, we'll do a little q&a. please join us for lunch right next door here. and her book is available for purchase and she's graciously agreed to sign her books for you, if you like so now please join me in welcoming bethany mandel. hi thank you so much for having me. it was a childhood dream of mine to be on c-span so i can check off this box and i don't even have to anything. i can just say i've been on c-span and walk off and i will have achieved that life dream. but i'll i'll try to, you know i'll try to actually be entertaining on c-span, which is something that is know it's an accomplishment where it comes to worse. i'll bring one of my kids on and i it'll be like a prop and i'll be fine. so i wanted to i don't know if

you guys know barry weiss in october of 20, 21, she gave i think one of the best performances cnn that i think that i've ever seen she was on brian show the of blessed memory is on the do you say now defunct show called reliable and she was sort of informing and and educating him and his viewership about wokeness in the media and he played dumb he's very good and he so i don't i don't what you're talking about how what and she had to really sort of spell it out for him how wokeness impacted her work in the new times newsroom and what why she ended up leaving the new york times and so i just want to read for you little bit of her speech because it was one of the most powerful moments, i think, in network television the last couple of years. so she told brian, when you have the chief reporter on the beat of covid for the new york times talking about, ah, i'm talking

about how questioning or pursuing question of the lab leak is racist. the has gone mad when you're not to say out loud and in public that there are differences between men and women. the world has gone mad when. they when we're not allowed to acknowledge that writing is writing and it is bad and that silence is not violence, but violence is violence. the world has gone mad when in the name of progress, young schoolchildren as young as kindergarten are separated in public schools because their race and it is called progress instead of segregation the world has gone mad. so talking here about the the madness that was silencing of the media and forcing conformity of thought among journalists, but same madness is also coming. our kids, adults like, me, you and barry understand that the world has gone mad and that it's getting crazier by day. we are watching a cultural revolution take place because too many adults wise to the insanity the revolution have decided to come for our kids.

there's a great deal of attention and a fair number of books focusing wokeness in colleges and corporations but ours is the first book that focuses on this effort coming for small children. kids don't arrive at school, begin the brainwashing process there. they've been brainwashed since kindergarten. earlier, we wrote stolen youth wake parents up about the indoctrination that's coming for our kids. so i want share for you a story from the introduction of our book and i want to say it's one of my favorite stories but sort of a weird to say. but when i spoke to this woman i said, this is exactly, exactly the kind of person that i wanted to talk for this book and exactly the story that i wanted to tell in it. as you may imagine, i had to give pretty much everyone in the book sort of pseudonym because people didn't feel comfortable using their names for obvious reasons to, you know, the mob coming for them. so her name for our purposes is allison and she's from the

boston. she had a daughter, alissa was struggling a bit socially, academically in 2020. and then hit and it's always it's always the line. and then covid hit and then things sort of spiraled. she stayed isolated in her room on her devices and her parents kind of thought, you know, whatever keeps her busy, we're all locked down. this is we're in triage mode. but but what ended up happening was she spiraled? she stayed in her room all the time. it was dark when she returned to school days a week. it didn't improve the situation. and in october of 2020, she decided that she had discovered that her daughter alissa was not only cutting, but she was also suicidal. every single outpatient facility for troubled youth was still on zoom. this october of 20, 26 months into a pandemic. we understood by now did not put anyone under the age of 40 at significant risk. they all of these still decided

that they were best operating on zoom and there was one patient. there was one program that was inpatient that would take their daughter. but there was always a but they had to drop her off masked outside and they couldn't enter, interact with anyone within the program. so they the seen i mean if you can imagine these parents who have just been through hell with their with their daughter they drop her off strangers at the gate masked she's supposed to stay only ten days but she ended up staying for over three weeks. so this is what happened next. allison, explain to me. our daughter looked like she was in a prison. she wouldn't talk to us. and the psychiatrist did all the talking her again. keep in mind, this is on zoom and everyone is in a mask. she wouldn't talk to us and in one session. the psychiatry prompted her. alissa, do you have something that want to tell your parents and she sat and then the psychiatrist for her that alissa had decided that she was. we asked where is this coming

from? we were dumbfounded. it didn't anything like her. we knew that there were issues, but i don't know if she thought if it was an escape or a cool thing to do because she had been watching it on youtube or tech talk. that was a theme that popped up again and again in my research. this was something that the kids up on youtube or tiktok and it just so happened that eight other kids in the program had already that they were non-binary as well. not a big program. eight kids. what are the odds? the psychiatrist reminding, recommending books and resources to support alissa through her change. alissa went on venting. she was groomed we think that she was groomed to be this way. it came out of the blue when she came home. you would think that, you know, we can sort of deprogram her a little bit and focus on what her to that inpatient facility. and in the first place, her mental health struggle was not the case. they faced another enemy in their fight, save their daughter. the school i was explaining, allison explained when she went

back to school, the public school helped this process along. they helped to groom her. they came to me, said that alissa wanted to change her name. cory, we're going to look changing her records. her mother refused, but it didn't matter, allison explained. they will do. whatever the kids say, it doesn't matter. parents say she was cory and used they them pronouns. they didn't give a darn what i said. she didn't use the word darn. i will edit myself for c-span you're welcome everyone. the key takeaway was that she really wanted me to to drive home and my book. was this what happened to her? can happen to any family? her daughter was particularly vulnerable and they took advantage of that vulnerability. the in-patient program started, the whole thing. and the schools just went along. they don't care. the school is so involved in politics and in pushing their agenda and to us as parents we feel like we have no control. so the worst of writing a book

of this nature that's sort of timely is that eventually you just have to say we're done. you have to close the book and hit print and send it to your publisher and your copy editor. and my publisher was not with me because at the 11th hour when we got our 26th draft, i said, can i just add like 100 words just how i feel like that's not a lot publisher. thought it was a lot and did not let. but there's this impulse to be adding because every single day there is another story in the news that happens. and so one of my twitter followers joked this new york magazine piece that came up last week, should be in our paperback edition. but i mean, if we're rewriting for the paperback edition, we're never we're just going to have to rewrite the whole book. but i to read you from this piece and york magazine by a woman named jones and the title is children are not property. if you have free time and like

okay pressure go and read it. if you don't have okay blood pressure, don't read it because it is borderline infuriating slash a little bit entertaining depending on your mood that day. but i want to read you just one paragraph from this new york mag piece. so the premise is that children are not property because parents own their children they can dispose of the child as they see fit, they can deny them evidence based medical care. i think you know what evidence-based medical care she's talking about. they can a child to work i have my nine year old baby sitting in the back right now so i don't i mean it's not wrong they can make sure a child is sheltered from the dangers of a serious just like marinate on that for a moment i'm going to get back to it sheltered the dangers of a serious education when a child goes hungry that's because a parent isn't caring for property. and what a person with their property is their right. does that sound like any conservative you know, or just

starving our children and putting them to work in sweatshops? but that's that's their image of us. that's that in their imagination. and that's how we treat children. they are props. there was one amazing line also from that piece that, you know, parents, conservative parents love, their children, insofar as they can perpetuate, they are anti lgbt bigotry. that was another great line. it was really hard to select one line for this speech, but go and read it. it's amazing. so they that parents are the enemy and, that the experts should be left in charge of the sacred work of child rearing, raised with morals that conform to their radicalized moral compass. i think we all met those experts over the of the last few years. they're the experts that told us that two year olds should wear cloth masks for 8 hours a day. those are amazing experts. yeah. so the author believes that children don't belong to their parents. but insofar she's making that

argument, she is the argument that they instead belong to the collective to the state. and when i was my husband about this, this is i'm going to go off script for a second here, but i was fuming to my husband. this piece i said like and by the way, beat it up. he helped me edit this book. it's not like he's never heard me vent about this before. he's an amazing editor, russian magazine, washington examiner magazine. check it out. but i said, like, this is exactly they think that they belong to the state. and he said, well, this is just some wacko new york mag author like slow your roll, calm down, chill out. and i was like, honey, you did this book like this isn't some view. so i yelled at him, i'm just like yeah, i was just, like talking, loudly and quickly. but i told him this in washington state, we're about to see a law. it's going through the legislature and the governor is about to sign. and the law i'm going to read

you from from senate bill five, five, nine, nine. it allows host for runaway youth and they host their house youth without parental permission. furthermore the host homes don't need to notify parents about where their children are or if they're getting medical interventions. so these protected medical health care services include affirming care for minors, arbitrarily decided anything prescribed a doctor to treat gender dysphoria. so just like imagine for a moment that you're a parent in, seattle, your kid has gone missing there. i mean, like i said, they're struggling with their mental health and you don't know where they are and you don't know what's happening and you're just hoping that they're safe on the streets. and i'm not sure what's worse, the fact that your child could be on the streets or that they're in a state sponsored group home getting hormones that can render them infertile or worse, the what?

one of the chapters in our book we say that we're using kids as guinea pigs and a wide variety of ways and the use of puberty blockers is of the most horrific. lesser was cutting you know i'm i'm 37. my generation girl girls have always had mental health struggles in their pre-teen years. the difference is when you were anorexic, when you 16 or cutting no. one in a professional capacity whether they were your teachers, your principal or your doctor or your told you. yeah, do look fat. yeah. you do. and let's let's figure out how to you on a diet. that is what we're doing to young girls. we are perpetuating their. their dysphoria and dysphoria comes in many forms when you're growing up as a pretty girl and

coming your body. but the difference in now versus when i was a teen 20 years ago is that people in positions of authority are encouraging young to continue the medicalization of their dysphoria. all right. so california, there's another bill assembly, 665 that would allow children as young as 12 to consent to mental health treatment or counseling without parental approval or involvement. there's a similar bill in the colorado. it's happening around the country. it's not a fringe view that the state knows better. it is happening around the country. we're going to see more and more bills like these. if you look at birth rates by ideological persuasion, you'll see that not progressives having children, they're entrenched in antenatal as propaganda. there's a reason why when people see me on the street, they that i am religious in some way. i have my six kids with me.

they know i'm religious in some way and they can almost always guess my politics. their aim is capture of a generation. this is the that they're trying to foment but not their kids that they're trying to. and it's not their kids they're trying to brainwash. it's ours. in so on youth, we make the argument that this ideological capture is coming from every corner of a child's life in school and visual and print media, even at the hands of medical professionals. and our carol who is a soviet a refugee from the soviet union, goes over the history of revolutions coming from kids. and then she shifts into covid, how covid accelerated their campaign, how covid opened the eyes of millions of american parents to what was happening on zoom school, their kids. for the first time, parents were seeing what kind of ideological instruction in brainwashing their children being subjected to. it certainly didn't resemble the serious education sarah jones asserted was being provided. public schools and the dismal test scores were seeing

literally every day released further fuel parental distrust of what kind and quality of education is taking in government run schools. if zoom has taught us nothing, is that is the takeaway. and the parents that i've spoken to, i would say. 70% are concerned about the quality of education rather the indoctrination. but my brilliant coauthor, carol markowitz, says all the time for every moment that you spend on indoctrination, for every minute that you're spending you're not spending it on math and really speaks to the priorities of the people writing curriculum and in the school system. the subtitle of, our book is how radicals are racing innocents. and we're seeing every day how radicals are doing their best to eradicate, in a sense, when i wrote this part of my speech, decided that my children should be elsewhere where and so if you children listening at home, you might want to like turn something on on youtube. we're watching pornography being placed into school libraries

and. children's book authors like judy blume are defending it. that was just yesterday. what is it? yeah. yeah. she initially had defended j.k. rowling and. then she got hit by the mob. that's coming. j.k. rowling. and she backtracked and said, i am against book. look at the books. at the books that they're accusing us of banning. they are pornographic. there are videos of trying to read from these books. school board meetings and their mikes are being turned off because they are that graphic. parents have tried to hold up images of these books and they're they're trying to portray us as bigots. they the people who are writing these books are writing in homosexual and i think that parent wants their year old to read about. and this a story i tell in the book. she was eight then. my eight year old picked up a graphic novel in two girls at a

sleepover. have an encounter. i don't want my eight year old reading a graphic novel about two girls at a sleepover, having an encounter with any. not with each other. not with brother no one. it's not appropriate. but they're using lgbt and not lgb characters in order to say if you don't want your to do this, you're a bigot. if you don't want your child at a drag queen story arts because you hate drag queens. no, i just i don't want hooters story hour either. none of these things are appealing to me. i'm a bigot. soviet. so in their imagining, children can consent to puberty blockers and surgical mutilation. they are adult enough and mature enough to make these decisions with their bodies. but game that out for a minute. if they are mature enough to alter their genitalia, they are

mature enough to use it. this is something that i into in our book and quite frankly did not go into enough. the idea that if children can consent to sex changes, they can consent to sex and yes, yes, it came to light yesterday that the united nations, the international of jurists, published a report in march that and i'm going to quote, sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual, in fact, if not law. so to put it more simply. the u.n. thinks that adults should be allowed to have sex with minors. it makes sense. according to their worldview, if children can consent altering their sexuality and are able choose it as young as toddlers why can't they consent to sexual? there is no limiting principle to this madness. think about sort of everything

that's happened the course of the last, i would say, ten years. abortion. what is the limiting principle? there's you to like veer for a second when people ask conservatives you know, what's your limiting principle like six weeks, 15 weeks, 20 weeks. the question that respond with as pro-life individual is what is your limiting principle? at what point do you think that a child in the womb should be safe? and their answer more often not is up until the moment of birth. but we are the extremists. i digress. innocence and happiness are the enemy. the woke. the radical. progressive left. want to completely remake and start a revolution. you can't do that. you can't ideological ideologically capture youth. if they are happy, contented, the rates of childhood, mental illness and misery, a feature of

this ideology. it is how they achieve their ends. it has terrified children of imminent climate catastrophe and uses them as pawns in their media campaigns. greta thunberg. yeah, my coauthor into how her first grade son was more or less forced to participate in a climate march. first grade as part of his i experience at that at rutgers university. speaking of like the radical ness. we were also given time off from class to march against something i don't know. i mean it all kind of runs together. i was an adult and i could confront my professor, which i did. and i, i have figured out a, according to how much this class is per semester, how much class session is worth.

so i'm wondering, are you going to be providing with a reimbursement for this class that we're missing? he not. but was an adult. and i was able to confront my teacher. a first grader is not and so that's why they're shifting from indoctrinating 18 year olds to eight year olds. they want them to be basket cases and that's what they're getting. but you also can't achieve this revolution without bullying your enemies into silence. this is a calling of the angry left. we see it every time anyone speaks up against their ideology. my book was published by daily wire books. i'm not sure if you guys saw what happened to to matt walsh this week. he is a conservative columnist and, podcaster for the daily wire and. he had his entire digital life hacked, 20 years of emails. everything was hacked. ben shapiro, the the sort of

head of the daily, said that they've had to hire 24 seven security for matt's house. ben has had that for years. i've received threats. carroll received threats. my coauthor kim markowitz once over covid, she had someone put a sign on her front door, her actual home, her front door. this how they bully all of us into silence. and it's why attendees at our private and unpublicized book party assaulted in new york city last month. vanessa, who's out there walking with her baby, had some choice words for the folks that did that, but they showed up and started their drinks and our books at. i had my two month old with me at the time who. thank god one of my friends was holding him at that moment. but this is this is how they try to intimidate. and i'm not going to lie and say that we've not had moments like, why am i doing this? why am i subjecting to this?

but to be frank, when they assault you physically you're reminded. they are terrified. we are over the target and that is why we a target and even children are subjected to the. so i want to share with you another favorite story that's a weird way. say it, but i don't know how to say it. a mother actually, a child, a ten year old in orange county, again, her name is hannah. oops. sorry. her name? hannah. not really, but whatever. so she went to a sleepover program that was affiliated with her and there was a neighboring town that did a similar sleepover program a couple weeks prior. and there were rumors within her parents in the area that the girls had ended up in bunks with adult biological male counselors overnight. and the parents, hannah's

parents and other parents in, that school system were concerned. they said went to the principal and said, we want to make sure that we're all on the same page. there's not going to be any men in our kids. right. our little our little girls and the sent her a letter, her an email back, quoting the the code i have written the code here. i'm not going to read it out loud to you. it legal jargon. it's like the you when you go to the doctor and they say sign here, you're like, okay, i don't understand anything. i'm saying, but i hope it's all right. and she trusted that the principal understood that they were on the same page because she made very clear she did not want her daughter a bunk with anyone who was biologically female. so she she explained in a subsequent email to administrators after daughter returned from the sleepover. i think you can guess what happened. i will tell you, i felt misled and what i found concerning is the lack of information

available to parents on the matter. when our principal was fully aware that this was a possibility, i spoke with the school after my daughter came home from camp, she informed me that of the 65 employees, four of them, identify as non-binary. they said that the principal was perfect lea aware that they could be sleeping with our children and they could have clarified this as. parents, when we when they saw that this a concern for several of us. and so who did hannah spend her weekend? she didn't sleep, i can tell you that. she spent her weekend with a counselor named nick neon green mohawk arms car covered in tattoos, two missing teeth and other teeth that were visibly. nick had facial hair. and announced that nick had they them pronouns and it was something that hannah didn't understand. she's ten years old, but she felt to intimidate, to ask because of something that had happened her several weeks prior. she had been bullied in a text

message conversation and about the fact that she wasn't vaccinated against covid. and so one of the boys on the text chain called a lesbian. and in response, as kids do, she sort volleyed an epithet back at him and said he was gay. this is the kids. this is what kids do back and forth. my kids are probably like calling other in the back right now a nervous to be honest with you. so the principal a hold of that text message chain and in response she stripped of her title as class president. and so this was a very public humiliation. and so she took from that the lesson that you do not speak up when there issues about sexuality, about gender, keep your mouth closed. and so when nick ended up as her counselor. she laid in her bunk, terrified and sleepless for entire weekend. and her mother said, i'm the

kind of person this is the lesson that mother took. i'm the kind of person that gives a benefit of the doubt and is too trusting. this was a wake up call that i can't trust people, especially with my children. that is the message of the book. they are more about the leaders being comfortable, about my child being comfortable. that is the theme of, the book. in the long term, a generation of children, including hannah's daughter, have learned that they must their internal alarm. every woman watching this knows what that internal alarm means. means you're walking down the street and look behind you. and that voice inside of you says, run, and you do. and there is a generation of girls that is learning to ignore that voice. maybe that voice is bigoted. maybe voice is racist, maybe that voice is wrong. that voice is never wrong. we're seeing happen in locker rooms right now when girls are expressing their desire, not

change into swim trunks in front of biological males. we're seeing that bullying and that is a bullying that happened to hannah's daughter, hannah's daughter wasn't the only person who had quieted her alarm. and this is something that is incredibly important point the principal and adult at the camp did so to everyone knew that this was a bad idea, but no one wanted to question the wisdom of putting who was sporting a green mohawk, a sleeve of tattoos and facial hair in of a cabin of girls. it's the job of adults to take care of children, not the other way around. really want people marry on that because throughout our book we are telling children i mean covid the perfect example. it is your job to take care of the adults. remember remember we were learning about the titanic as kids and we learned women and children first. that no longer the case anymore.

so when we were first trying to sell our book proposal, we met with five different editors from different publishing houses and three of them expressed interest. and so we wrote a new york post piece about this when our book first came out and we went auction super excited. how much money are they going to offer us for our book? i'm not i mean, i six kids. so we went to auction and then the day of auction, our ghosted us was just radio silent. and he came back and he said everything. editor acknowledged your book is going be a bestseller. it but they were all scared of getting canceled. they were all scared not only of getting canceled, but of the book being made unavailable on target and amazon, which has happened to other books, i think most notably shriver's book. and so we were can you take the trans stuff out your book? and we were like, no, we really can't. and then another editor said,

well, you can can you take the fight message out? maybe it's just like a feel good book. you know? now we are two jewish women and new yorkers that it is impossible for us to tone down on a normal subject. but on this. in the face of this onslaught, just something we couldn't do. and so, i mean, a book proposal is a lot of work. it's 20 pages. we spent months it and we decided, you know what, we're going to it. we're not going to take no, no, not enough and not enough money. i'm not going to lie to to write a book that we wouldn't even want to read, let alone write. and so we said, let's just table it. and then the daily wire came to us and said, we want the book and we welcome the fight. and that's we did. and so we rushed to print. so thank you to the daily for having the courage. no other publisher did, including every single major publisher. i would love to write another book again.

so hopefully they will publish my book because yeah, that's the danger of saying these things in public. i would like to write a feature book, but i'm burning every other conservative. so anyhow, when we wrote this book, we wanted to arm parents with the knowledge of the enemy facing american families, and we want to share message with those of you who share our urge to fight for kids in our conclusions, we each give our view of what that fight looks like in our individual families. in my family, we've basically gone galt. so know a famous ayn rand novel. my kids favorite actor is robin williams. their favorite book is probably c.s. lewis of narnia and their favorite movies like mrs. doubtfire, which beat tribe, could never be created. now, and flubber. my kids don't have phones.

they will not have phones. are those sheltered, homeschooled kids that you hear about and those you in the room will read them. we'll meet them after this. and they are not weird, very earnest, not weird. and carol, how she goes the complete opposite direction doesn't home school she has three kids and go to public school and private school she did pick up her family and move from new york city from brooklyn to florida. and that was how she kind of protected her children. all of this, they movies, they watch television shows. they are completely in this world. and so the two of us, in our conclusion in stolen youth available on amazon, we about how can you raise your child in this climate and come out the other side with kids who are happy and resilient and not brainwashed and we take totally different paths to get there but at the end of it our kids are amazing and they're really nice and my daughter will marry her

son and it will be great with i joke that i put we every time we all get together we take pictures of the two of them for the wedding, you know, for the powerpoint or whatever it will be called then and we i put them on our photo frame and so i'm like trying to like really drive it home to her like you and jack are meant to be. i'm just saying. but we wanted to provide parents with the blueprint, raise emotionally stable and resilient kids in the face of this madness. kids who are able to resist this campaign. and we hope that our work can parents achieve that? because i mean what else are we doing here if we're not raising emotionally resilient and, happy children? that's all i've got. thank you guys so much. i wrote this at 11 p.m. last night and i knew i was going to do this myself or i was going to veer off and chitchat so hopefully i'm on time, but thank you all so much.

i really appreciate it. a great book, a great bunch, stories. you know, as a parent, my kids, it was 20 years ago, they were they're in their thirties and forties now. but things gotten so much worse, got so much. and god bless you for what you're doing. the homeschooling you know, not every mom can do it for. a variety of reasons. maybe she's alone, you know, maybe she just economically they need it. so let me ask the first question and then we'll let you all. what about a mom who just can't do that? yeah. and she has all the worries that you have. she sees how bad it is, as you said, in covid. i mean, that was a blessing in a way parents could see on the screen the children computers, the garbage being taught. yeah. so maybe answer that one first. and then we have a microphone here. so if you raise your hand and

you call on, people would do a few questions. sounds good. thank you. so one of my favorite stories from one of my dear friends who was faced with that situation, they, i mean, totally frankly, they don't want to homeschool, but they anyway, even if they wanted to. and so there's like a strange echo now. so this dad made very clear to his private school that he would like to see every bit of curriculum before his kids. and he bullied the school and did not make any friends and said, i would like everything, give me and it important point is he didn't just ask the stuff that was happening in health class. he was asking for every thing. science you would be shocked. there was one parent in austin, texas who came to me during their read hour his he found out that his kindergartner had read a book called swish, swish,

swish. the drag queens hips set to the tune of wheels on the bus. and so the parents only found out about that because. their kindergartner, skip ing around the house that day, singing swish, swish, swish. go the drag queens hoops and the parents were like, i'm sorry, what is it? and that was how these parents discovered that this was a aloud in their kids, you know carpet time i think called and so my asked for everything and he doesn't time who does to sit down and look all look at a year's worth of curriculum all at once and so he decided to always be two weeks ahead and so every saturday night he would look at that week's or actually would be two weeks prior because he wanted enough time to sort of be have action time basically. and so he noticed that actually during health class the kids would be would be learning about

human sexuality in a way that was extreme, namely not age appropriate. i don't know what you can say on c-span. i don't want to get bleeped on c-span, but i mean, but this is the thing. like, i have to wonder like, how do i describe this curriculum for his first grader where i don't get bleeped on. and i'm not sure how honestly it's okay mean so it talked about masturbation how you can how you can adequately masturbate in a way that is pleasurable this was first grade so that the dad went to the school and said this is not appropriate these these this curriculum not age appropriate. and the school said we are the experts. you entrusted your child to and we think it is. and so is. and so dad was not. and he decided to individually

approach other parents at pickup, at drop off and activities over the course the next few days and said, do you what they're learning about in this human sexuality and they're like and all the other parents said no but you know he was a crazy right winger because of covid and all now but no, no, they know what they're doing. and he was like, but but do they? because this what they're learning. and he showed them one of the youtube videos that the kids were going to be shown and the parents were blown away. and so he talked to one or two other parents. and those one or two other parents talked to one or two other parents. and they had within a few days, eight or nine parents who were uncomfortable with this enough to approach the principal this time as a group and say, we would like this taken out of the curriculum and the principal said, we are the experts that you have in with your children and we know how to properly educate them in human sexual. thanks for your thoughts. and so now seven parents are

livid and they talk to every else in those in the class and every single parent re approach is the third time the principal of a private school to whom they are paying tuition. and that's not an incentive for get them out and said we are all uncomfy trouble with this and whenever every single parent were making plans to pull their kid out of class because that's what the school said that was their compromise if you come here and pull your kid out and you with your kid while this lesson is being taught, that's how you get your kid out of it. we're not going to provide anything alternative for your kid you have to. so you have to take time of work. and so every single parent talked amongst themselves in their whatsapp chat and they said, who has some flexibility, who can go in and watch every single kid. while the teacher teaches this lesson to, an empty room. and at that point and at only that point did the principal

back down and the principal down and said, we will be teaching this lesson next year because know what is best for your. and so experience taught every single parent in that classroom a very valuable lesson. they think that the kids belong to the school they that they know what is best and so my friend is not the only person prescreening curriculum and if any good came from it it is that it red pilled an entire classroom and it didn't just red pill those parents because those parents have kids in other grades in that. and there's other parents in the school who are now doing the same and their classrooms. but you really have to be tuned in and this is this is why when we tried to sell this book and the told us take out the fight message, what is the answer? if it's not fight, you have to pay attention, but then you have to fight and you have to be

willing to be labeled the lunatic you have to be willing to be labeled the. because at the end of the what do you care more about your child or your reputation? and if it's the latter, like why you have kids. my perspective. okay. yeah because if we are really you know, again people watching the tape can you remember two things first of all that was fabulous thank you so much for for being here what was the new york magazine title and author sarah jones are not property and was published mid april 2020. this 2023 right yeah 2023. you know what year it is. okay. anyone else? the question. i have other thing. since there's a one and a half year old in this room i like, i

to drive home for parents. just how this happens. there a famous youtube personality who i would compare like my generation's mister rogers. there's a famous youtube personality, miss rachel. that's what her name is. she has non-binary of her cast who uses them pronouns, and she wears a binder. and when she introduces stuff is on this youtube channel, she introduces them with they them pronouns. so she hasn't gone into it yet. but this is this is how they sow the seeds even at this age. they're introducing idea that you don't have to have pronouns that people are neither man, woman and this is something that when i was to people in the mental health field was incredibly disorienting for young minds. your brain three and under is

forming rapidly and. if your brain is stripped of the ability to categorize people into these very basic ways man and woman, one of my my two and three year olds favorite activities always. i'm on my fourth three year old is always to sit at the table and say, mommy is a girl, daddy is a boy barbie is a girl, zadie is boy. this is how they make sense of world is by categorizing and we are taking away from an entire generation that ability to understand the world around them, to categorize it in this manner. we are performing a sociological experiment. the of which would never be approved an ethics committee. what happens to developing brains? you take away this basic building block of understanding the world around them. we're going to find out. spoiler alert, it's not going to be great. how you take more questions.

but the appearance of that one and a half year old inspired me to make that point. i appreciate you're saying and doing i've seen interviewed on a couple of other podcasts so i'm at the age now where my kids are in college and i'm trying to help them critically think through a lot of this stuff. question is i've recently seen some people sort of connect in and this is not i know you didn't really focus this so if you don't know a lot of about it's okay connecting i'm interested in what's behind everything right why the why and james lindsay has gone into a lot of that thinking. yeah but recently i saw a journalist and as she was talking, was connecting a lot of the financial part of it. yeah, yeah. so can you speak to that at all. so i can but not enough to fake it. it's huge. so there is an incredible new york post piece about. the back ramaswamy wrote a book

called woke inc, and the basic idea is that all of these corporations have social credit scores and. you want to obtain a good score. and so, i mean, i think everyone knows what happened about light. they decided to have transgender individual not not act as a spokesperson. they kind of cheered this person's persona and this person's i mean, to be frank, act this person's act isn't just to pretend to be a woman, but is it's mocking women. it is? if you've ever watched dylan mulvaney's videos, the videos the first video was. so this is my first day of girlhood and by the way, like no warning sign warning flags that this person portrays himself as a girl not as a woman, as a girl oh red, flag after red flag.

it is weird. and again, that is something that not allowed to say publicly anymore without being called a bigot, but i'm sorry, a grown man pretends to be a prepubescent girl if i would not leave that person in a room with a child just like i wouldn't have left my children in a room with michael jackson way back that same. so bud decided to stand behind this person and put this person's face on a beer can. and, you know, cheer this person's transition into girlhood and. they did it. it is thought they this because it increases their social credit score. the only to sort of get points in this system is by standing behind campaigns of this nature are almost always lgbt related, but more t the and this is

question that i sort of have for you know the rights movement and there's definitely been a fraction of the movement to separate lgb and t because it is very different. so, so i recommend book and as an aside i've recommended it for purchase in my in my local library. i live in montgomery county, maryland. all of you familiar. yep. it's a great county and i, i requested my book and they no, it was it was number 19 on amazon at that moment. and a local activist. and i hope i'm not like blowing him up, but will be writing about this his his sort of handle is clean slate moko. so hopefully i'm like scooping his scoop, but i'm also promoting him. so maybe it all evens out. but he made a public records request and, said, what kind of books are you approving and what kind books are you not

approving? and that filing of public records request for montgomery county inspired them to have change of heart. and so montgomery county public libraries have four copies of stolen use. the system, they have 63 copies of anti-racist board, but they have four of mine and they've been approving of my other requests. now since that first initial denial. but i mean, we kind of we give action and action ideas for people, our book and that is one of them request books that your library balance out the scales and take no for an answer and that's just like the general. like don't take no for an answer. but i requested vivek's. this is how i got to that tangent. i requested this book and i will be reading it and i recommend everyone read it if you're interested in that topic. thank. yeah, i think we're out of time, so we have time to do the book signing before this leave.

we'll wrap up the questions here, but we'll talk informally. afterwards. just lastly, thank you for inspiring people and giving ideas for how to fight this. think that's the good news? more and more people are standing up courageously. in fact, our most popular campus right now is really gains. who is a champion swimmer. she's been on tv a lot at some of the other athletes are finally doing it too. that's how you got to do it. oh yeah. no small amount of personal risk. reputational, physical. she's graduated, but the girls on the still they threaten your scholarships you're off the team. yeah well she was physically assaulted. yes she was that was san francisco where else. san state. but when she speaks for us we pay extra for security so nobody will touch her. they can shout at yeah but you know, there she is and here's the guy who beat her that high. oh, surprise, surprise. yeah. you know, and it's not just swimming, it's soccer. it's rowing. yeah. and then the women's president, it goes on and on. the finally people this one is

people of all views. what i've. yeah, they dressed with this these guys in the locker room i is truly crazy but i want to thank you so much for your for your work for your writing. thank you. have a couple of gifts for you. and this one is especially appropriate. this is our limited edition coffee mug with the famous saying, read it. this is clare booth luce courage is the ladder on which all the other virtues mount. and you have courage to do that in there. and i want to give you my book, which similar but really about raising three daughters. and you can't just sit back anymore. did you sign it? i did it to you and your husband because i know you're going to thank he part of this also he is. yes. i just want to thank you so much. there's some book sales outside and you'll sign them. absolutely. and there's some good lunch and good cookies. do got good cookies today. thank you so much. you thank you all for coming. thank you.

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