this week and then coming in two weeks our next week september fourth. there's a huge case called leila green. leila little green versus l.a. texas. it's going to be in the fifth circuit, which is it's a texas court case, but it's happening in new in the fifth circuit that's going to determine it's going to be huge for censorship and public libraries. it's in public it's going to take these big corporate nations, these big publishing companies to put their money behind their authors in their books and the citizens in the libraries. i also wish, though, that the library supply companies would join in because if there's no libraries, are they going to supply? so we're working on that, they're thanks, amanda, for writing your book. i think you just sort of answer my know lead into my next question. you know we talked about like the censorship flow school libraries and it's gone down to the public libraries and what's the next step, you know, whether it's like the publishing houses,

etc., i think that's exactly where we're going. we talk about project 2025 and it's laid out all in there. and so i think people need to educate themselves on this. so thank you so much. you're welcome. yeah, they actually they did go after bookseller hours in texas with legislation. they they they went after a bookseller, bookstores. they've gone after was a barnes and noble where they went after a sarah james book. and they even they even like did a little trespassing and got it. yeah. and interviewed and yeah granbury, texas they, you know they're into libraries and and you know i mentioned project 2025 all the time in my community and they're like oh that's not real and i'm like it's happening right now we're here what do you mean it's not real? it's happening right now the libraries are mentioned on page five and what they're doing is what they're and it's you know they'll they won't stop and the goal the ultimate goal is to

defund schools and libraries and them and it goes back to authoritarian pushing christian nationalism and you know back in the of who has power, who does and who has the money and if we don't stop it, we're going to lose our schools, libraries. so, yeah, but is it. please join me in thinking tonight's moderator stacey nunn. and our author amanda jones amanda jones.

and i bet each one of you came here today already knowing who is you do. that's why you're here. you watch your own facts on fox news. you read her articles and impact us. usa today, new york times and a host of other national

publications magazines, you name it. she's been published about everywhere. now, most of us in this room are lifelong staunch republicans and we're conservative. and we're used to hearing at these meetings almost every month a conservative speaker, a republican speaker. today we're going to have a slightly different perspective because our speaker today has a slightly different background historically than some of us here in the room she started out as a and avid democrat. she worked on the campaigns of two of the most liberal senators in the history of california boxer and feinstein she. we forgive you. we forgive you. she worked on the campaign of bill clinton. you that guy back when democrats actually had people that were just left of center and not so

far left that we couldn't it anymore. she was a registered democrat in 2008. she said no more she became unaffiliated. but here's the thing even as a registered democrat, she voted for ronald reagan twice. she has voted for every republican candidate since george w bush in 2000. so maybe registered as an unaffiliated, but she voted her heart she voted her. conservative values. and then she became a proponent and one of the great champions for the conservative. and she just told me a few minutes ago that as of last year is now a registered republican. welcome to the club jamming. tammy is a bestselling author i think you've seen some of her books out there. the new thought police was her

first the death right and wrong and her latest work fear itself, exposing the left's mine killing agenda. now, she's a los angeles native. she majored in political science at the university of southern california. i know we cringe when we hear california, but that all back then. now she's going for a ph.d. soon she'll be bruce. and at this point in time, i would like you to give warm carolina welcome to tammy bruce. thank you you. thank you. and i'm sorry about, all that other stuff. i'm about all that other stuff. thank you very much. i i am it you know, it's i'm a

republican now and. it's still because the indoctrination that occurs it's it makes me nervous. but or you know we've i think we've got about 30, 40 minutes here and it takes me that long to say hello so i'm i'm talking and i can't up so i've learned how to make a living at that but i really appreciate being here a certainly carol thank you very much and the republican women of greater charlotte i've never been here before. it's beautiful you've all been just so lovely. i knew it was different when were rocking chairs in the airport so i got i'm not leaving i'm not leaving. and one of my first scottish ancestors landed in 1600s in south carolina. he john cooper. so he was. but there's many just many troublemaker in my line. and so it's a it's a pleasure

and honor. yes primarily new book first one in 17 years and i know also not that anything last night but and i don't want to take too much time addressing the debate but also of course as we've paid tribute to as carol so beautifully september 11th. it is a reminder especially this anniversary that of course everything can change in a moment. we we can't live that way we have to presume we look toward each day regardless of what we face, being these mortal creatures. but the fact is, is that we are blessed with being americans. we are americans first, as we we're in the south, in the midwest or the north or the west in california. is a beautiful state. but there's a home invasion robbery there of the entire state. and so we we have work to do. and i think that you my being here, what america, has provided

someone like myself, having been a push cart pusher, the left and still informed by the by same ideals, the same values at that time, which now i to say was quite some time ago. suddenly that happened. i don't know how, but it was i yeah look 40 years ago 40 that's a long time and yet my i think all of our values now the conservative framework is about personal freedom being able to live lives that best suit us which requires being able to at least be middle class and not have the government dictate our businesses or in our personal lives. what we can and cannot do. but that also requires, of course, foundational basis of values where we be trusted, where our how we approach life can be trusted. and that, of course, is it keeps government out of thinking that they can interfere with the

choices that we make. so, you know, that is an american sensibility. it used to be, as we now see with bobby kennedy jr used to be a democrat value and then that was hijacked as. we know so things do change it's a of being nimble and understanding that i think there are probably a few of you here who democrats and are now republicans that the case you know and so let me let me start and so my timeline and again just a reminder also c-span is here they just as we know record straight across there'll be a chance for for questions and yet again our timeline is short so if we will just get the direct questions from and i'm as you can tell i'm still i've gotten to my point yet we we will i'm going to do my best to be as concise as possible. enjoy being here. of course, i love my work at fox

have been there 20 years now and i've learned how say things in about 3 minutes and then so this gives me a much much enjoy this and i appreciate being invited and being here briefly on the debate you're going to see a lot of different points of views, but from my experience, working on both the left and the right my experience working with candidates my experience in communications to some degree crisis communications and then being in media, which really in 1993 and radio is, my experience with is never that there is with exception of the joe biden debacle there's some people will done a little bit better than the other person. right but what matters is what's what the impression is true with everything in life? i think and we also all have ideas about and last night could have been an inflection moment.

but what i'm seeing is is it's it's not going to move the needle terribly maybe in the betting but emotions drive the betting markets. right. what i can you is that already in one survey of india of undecideds that six are now to vote for trump or are leaning to trump three for harris, one still undecided. so when when we think about these conversations and we saw this in the the afterwards the you know they have several undecided people in various places in the voter panels immediately after the debate, without exception what was noticed was that she didn't answer the details of the questions that she she was there's a lot of words. there was a lot of stuff going on. but the very first question, what have you done to help? you know, be better off in the last four years? are they better off immediately?

she a canned answer didn't? not at all answer that question. and that is the question on everyone minds. it's nonpartisan crosses the partizan line. and she didn't answer it. and i knew what the night would be if the natural follow up would have been. madam vice president, thank you. but you didn't answer. my question when that didn't happen, i knew where what the trajectory would be and what i would hope for. and i believe is that it was so obvious that it was a distillation of what has already been happening. lots of words other people saying things for her flip flops, distractions, confusions, but in the new york times siena poll from just a few days ago, a majority of said, we we need some details. we we need details on these issues. and i well this is when she put up the cut and of the biden website on policy onto her

policy pages no meaning that they notice that and they knew but it still was meaningless. there was no detail. she talks about her plan with no details and my feeling is and we're seeing it unfold, is that they're trying to move independents out. and there's some undecideds that exist. and when we think about pennsylvania is what happened night or tailor endorsement? i don't think that the miners or, the oil workers or the frackers were waiting for taylor's opinion. all of us have an opinion and that's fine. but bottom line is, while, you know, we all we would done something differently, we would have. yeah, there's all kinds of opinions. the bottom line is, you know trump and what i've always said on the air and on the few i've been able to speak to him directly is that his greatest

strength is himself? the thing that separates him out from everyone else is the fact he is himself you know, exact only what you're getting last night was frankly classic trump. he talks about all kinds of things. he is a he's a nice guy. he's been portrayed as not being he is. and he's doing all of this because cares about the country. he of all people, knows what's at stake. and i think the emotional reaction as we get now to my book the emotional reaction is based in what's stake. we know that our lives are at stake in this election that freedom speech is at stake. the nature of what this country stands for is at stake. elon musk says we're already a bankruptcy process that is unsustainable. and we're hearing the harris camp no plan about and she's part of what has driven us to this point. there's many things you've seen and it's been discussed will

continue to be discussed. but i that when people sit down still today nothing has changed. it comes to average americans not knowing if they're going to be able to get to work because of gas, not knowing what dinner will. we are very fortunate. americans are, thank god, because of this nation, but still too many families wondering what will the protein be tonight? what can i do now? kids are going back to school. what can i send with my kid for lunch and? having to decide between and americans now, a new poll saying i have been skipping meals. it is the 21st century and the greatest country human history. an american citizens are skipping meals unexcelled and of course we know trump has a history and a greatest economy in human history, energy independence, etc. so we know and that's what americans when they sit down tonight and as independents are tending so it

seems say oh trump lost the debate. i think that we need to wait and see how this washes out we need to wait and. see i don't look so much at the betting markets because they like all betting goes up go up and down but all of this and let me move to my book now so i am i believe he will win but that has not changed. and i think that issues have not changed. and they will not change. her style will not change. and last night was a distilled of what they've done, which is try to busy you up with noise and distractions pretend be something they're not while trying to make you afraid of what republican and conservative stand for. that's what their technique is and why i wrote this first time first book in 17 years on the issue of fear being used to control society. so no matter what happens, even the election when we look back,

as we look forward, the one thing that is consistent with the left the world is using emotion to control the population and not happiness, right? not the fake joy. but then posting up trump's going to be a dictator on day one. it is an interesting and it's used it's successful. it's an ancient technique hundreds of years it's it's of course used all around the world by people who have nothing else to control you. now, when you're involved and you move through that fear framework, use your brain, stop using logic and reason because you move into fight or flight mode and then you react emotionally exclusively. you don't stop to think about, well, you know what? the next day going to bring you stay the moment and you're not thinking what else might be possible. so that is been the strategy

everywhere. in our case, of course, we saw a great deal of that many people were aware of the power of that during covid. is there a bottle of water. could i get a water or? a glass of water? that would be great. it started. i think americans were educated about the nature of how we saw how quickly. thank you very much. thank you, sir. so americans, we were told immediately we needed to stay six feet away from each other. we needed to wear masks. this was you know, it's you've got to you can't visit loved ones are hospitalized. you can't see your your family and friends if they're, let's say, in a nursing home. people died alone. women gave birth. i mean, all these stress decisions that we made and where were willing to go in the midst of that, because the government said this is the way to do it and. now, earlier this year, we

fought, she admitted that the six feet away from each other, which we knew was absurd, admitted he just he didn't know where came from. i think it was delivered. leprechauns. it's hard to say, but is it? yeah. yeah. that just he said i think his phrase was sort of showed up and that i don't know that a new scientific theorem either that showed up theorem and of course also with the masks he admitted that maybe about 10% efficacy if worn properly i.e. the n95s or whatever were called, but that putting the band around your face. in other words, meant nothing. right it wasn't just about covering your face. what's important here? that there was no real scientific decision making or drive to that. it was fear. and i think that it managed in this framework of realizing what was possible and how, what could we get done, what weird. what strange rule people follow

if they afraid enough. and so that's where many of these kinds of issues began to manifest canada as an example. and you know, the book doesn't just talk about covid there's a elements in in there about covid, certainly. it's also global warming. the other giant boogeyman, which is amorphous, like covid, that it's undefinable, it can be whatever is you describe canada, though, during this period time that it was like a whistleblower, i guess. but it it was the military had decided see what rural canadians would do if there was a wild pack of wolves on the loose. because, you know, let's see what they would do if they were afraid an program they sent fliers out to residents saying out for the crazy wolves. and then they set up in various rural areas of wolves howling

the government in. and the it was this division, the military that was determined see what would how what how could people be pushed under? a framework of fear like this in england during and a whistleblower leaked messages online between government officials involved in the covid response saying that they would hold back about a new variant in order to make sure it had biggest impact possible and that they needed to scare the pants off of people because the british were not responding. so there's open conversations about using fear or withholding news, releasing it at certain times. and now many groups there acknowledging that what they did unconscionable and manipulate the british people over covid

that happened everywhere ever. beware. governments got excited about to manipulate people. so on the issue of fear though, this is what's a conundrum. fear itself, fear per say is not the problem. fear is a gift. friend of mine, gavin de becker, he's the seminal book called the gift of fear. i met him during the oj simpson killings and trials and he's a security expert and his point is fear is a useful thing it but it's meant to be trans jittery so if you see your aunt in your car and you see a train coming and you're too close to the tracks, you get afraid and you back up. if you see that your door is slightly ajar and you've been out, you know, to not go in your back up and you take action. if you notice something that is your daughter's having