beware. governments got excited about to manipulate people. so on the issue of fear though, this is what's a conundrum. fear itself, fear per say is not the problem. fear is a gift. friend of mine, gavin de becker, he's the seminal book called the gift of fear. i met him during the oj simpson killings and trials and he's a security expert and his point is fear is a useful thing it but it's meant to be trans jittery so if you see your aunt in your car and you see a train coming and you're too close to the tracks, you get afraid and you back up. if you see that your door is slightly ajar and you've been out, you know, to not go in your back up and you take action. if you notice something that is your daughter's having problems

and not talking to you or physically she's changed or she's lost too much weight or something's going on. fear is an initial reaction. but then you act, it spurs you to take moves that you normally not take, right? there's a man walking on the street, it's street. you're the only other person walking on the street. he crosses the street to get to your side of the street ladies. i think we all experience a situation where our spidey sense, which is the instinct of fear, but it also tells us in the moment when need to make we need to make a change. we need to cross the street ourselves. we need to not presume. the one time i was mugged was in los angeles when i was much younger and i was on the left and i there were two young men on the street and i was determined not to be and to give them the benefit of the doubt, even though instinct was, don't get out of your car i got out of

my car and it was a mistake. i was slugged. i was knocked, i fell. thank goodness. a lawn of a neighbor's home. and as i was coming to had been over me and was reaching for at the time i carried i carry a bag now cross-body bag but it was grasping my bag but the light came on and the house in which the on which i fell, which means i must have made a noise. and eventually i got my bag back. and it was a couple of neighborhood kids were like trying out for the gang and but my instinct and what the left wants you to do is to your instinct, they want to question your values. they want you to ignore the that we're facing. they want you to think that if you are concerned about children or what's transpiring you're a bigot or you can't be trusted or something's wrong with you or you living in past, or i'd love to live in the past when we have

the strongest economy in the world. i'd you know, i'd love to live in the past when we don't have world wars breaking out. but is part of it as well? is the fear. and there's chapters on this as well. the issue of language the of being called a name right. the new woke framework is also meant for you to be afraid of being are being canceled of losing your job. right that is all become normally ized of being publicly shamed and that's all to just keep you quiet. it is a new censorship through fear, by the way. poverty is also a a powerful censor. if you can affect an economy where people can't come and support their favorite or their favorite candidates. if you can't afford to travel to go to an event, if you can't afford to live in the neighborhood, you want to live in, beg for a school, whatever you are trapped. you're trapped.

that is the ultimate censor. you can't hurt. you can't people you want to support. you can't move. you can't leave. that is what the left works. so all of these things rely the fear, the fear. and today the fear is and this is why people think, oh, well, it's a failed economy. it's not a failed economy. if your intention is to keep people trapped is to make them not not able to to, you know move out of a certain state, make people not be able to speak up because they'll they'll lose the two jobs that they now have to have in order pay the rent, fear of, not being able to pay that rent if something happens. more and more americans, a majority. i still are living paycheck to that is not normal in our society in a society of entrepreneurs and the free market and capital. every 20 years there seems to be problem that puts us on our heels economically. funny enough, every generation

kind of gets kneecapped out a little bit and we're in that. we're at that inflection point again with a direction that no talks about when it comes to the economy for next year, and that the bad economy raises fear. so for left and you saw this in the debate, you see this with the rhetoric. the issue is if you're hearing rhetoric about as an example to border, that's worth being afraid. the border is open. we have known terrorists. the watch list coming through. we've got people being imported into the country that don't embrace the values that that are you know in small towns attacking, park wildlife and eating it you know things that are so that it's worth fear but what being asked to do when you're being told on these things is not to be afraid and retreat. it's about all right on the transitory position what do we

do? so the gauge becomes as the as the left tells you and this will be my last point. i know we're out of time as the left tells you about, global warming, there's no real endpoint. there's no real solution. banning plastic straws. i'm sorry. or turning off. they won't. don't use the air conditioner. be uncomfortable. suffer it. don't use cars. fossil fuels, electric vehicles. of course. does electricity come from they don't like. to discuss that so much but it's all about a that makes you choose strange options or makes it pushes you into a dynamic that makes no sense whatsoever and it costs money and more government. but there's never an endpoint. every ten or 15 years, there's a new, scary that the world's going to end in ten or 15 years. i'd tell it in my book where you look back and every years there's some new thing you.

know, aoki's thing was, you know, in 12 years the world is going to end. it's usually 20 years. and that is to have you stop thinking critically. we're going to save the planet. you've got to not straws or dry. and you think, well, okay, whatever i can do what's never addressed china and china being the contributor it's eight rivers in china i think two in indonesia that provide all the pollution into the world's oceans banning plastic straws in the united states is not a solution but of course it makes you think you've done something and then you retreat from an issue that we all love the environment but it makes you think you've done your part when none of us have done our part. that's the issue and it continues. it will never be solved. fear and this is about killing your mind on every issue. it's to stop your critical thinking. we start and if you do think

critically, there's punishments for acting on that criticism and then may even yourself comply they want you to comply because the punishments you don't comply are too severe and it has to be on where like with miss where you don't to talk details. there are no details they can't tell how that solves the problem or with the economy or anything else. so i think that the this is an evergreen book. it can be applied everywhere i go through what happened to justice kavanaugh in that confirmation hearing what's happened donald trump. j.k. rowling on the issue of gender reassignment surgeries and children that all of those are meant as messages to the rest of you if we can do it to them, we can do it to you. that's my message. that's pretty obvious message. if we can do to them, no one is safe. and that's their point on

issues. they're trying to find out. and i hope they're wrong. and we'll take some questions. but on issues like can we get them to say that these agents of the state in schools are better for their children than they are. can we get parents to their children? can we get a dolts to look away when children become objects of sexual politics? and that's what it is sexual politics. sexual ization of children when it's the most innocent time and irreversible situations. can they frighten you into accepting it for fear of criticism or. that is all of our positions right now. and it's a very weak house. but it can be defeated. and i think that we're seeing it play out in the right now that you're going to be thinking more about for the left, it's about abortion and fear. and for if there's a fear based

message where there's no solution, that's the mind killing aspect. if there is a genuine to be afraid of, where there is a solution, like with the border policies dealing with mexico, building that wall, they acting on the solutions that's and that's that's a different framework so it's the weaponizing of an important aspect that leads our lives and left want you to retreat and to be too afraid to engage all of you here are not in that position you're this room this organization's in that position and it's honor and a pleasure to be here. every day we've. got to talk about these things. so thank you very. and we've got some questions now. jeremy, that was all right. let me make sure this one's on well, you can probably hear me without it, right? okay. but wait now for the c-span,

we've got another out there. oh, so there's a different microphones. okay, microphone. great questions. so we surprised you. we started a little bit early so we could have extra with cami for questions. so we have a little bit more time than we than promised her. but here's the caveat. you've all been to that uncomfortable room where the question becomes a speech so we'll ask that you ask questions and then, you know, save comments and just ask the question. so with that, who would like to ask first question? yeah, back here. so we have a microphone, the field way back to my right. i think it is that one. yeah. i think it's an. all right, here we go. i won't need one. yes. and then, of course, my issue is my answer is 20 minutes long. so i'm going to follow that rule. well, so we can get as many of you here as possible, because it's a national audience.

and i think people generally don't from north carolinians, they don't hear from. and it's an important time and i think they deserve to hear from you. yes, sir. hi, i'm jeff spry. i want say welcome to the old north state and where cornwallis met a hornet's nest. here we go oh, my my question is, what news media source is away from our beloved fox news? do you consider reliable and dependable and where you listen for other other information? well, that's a good question. the all of legacy media is a problem. and we certainly saw that last night. and i think that's going to be the the legacy of that debate. people will remember that kind of behavior of the moderators in the meantime, but think that right now really is i've gotten a lot more active on twitter

which is now ex thank god for elon musk and without him we would not be hearing any anything that now is valuable so i'm very active on there there is i've gotten so many other different layers about articles and reporting and course you've got to be able to sort through and you can control the feed. but i'm on i'm on twitter x at hey tammy bruce there's videos now long form videos i put one up just before i came here. there's subscriptions that help creators make a little bit of money they're going to be starting up tv is not going to stop it's going to be remarkable and and so i think i'm i'm thinking here god man my column is it a group called a mac dot u.s.? it is the conservative alternate tive to the aarp. they also have articles and material and so i'm proud of

being associated with them. but in all honesty, unless there is some major change where you want people tuned. fox and i write about them a little bit in the book they have more liberals and democrats listening to fox than they do cnn or msnbc because everyone knows they need information to information a variety of information to decide what you're going to do for your family and for yourselves. so i have to say, i don't have a look, i think about my browser now online where i might go. i where you my channel is on fox or it's on hallmark and and the magnolia channel and main cabin masters, you know, the true crime and course fox nation, i think is in the top ten of the downloaded apps for for information and news which is fox nation the streaming service so that i to tell you until we see more and things settle down

i think right now it's limited and it's social media. yes. hi, kiesha brassington. this could not have been more perfect day to talk about fear. i met with a group of students last week at appalachian state university and that was their main subject. it was fear about taxes. it was fear that they would never be able to buy home. fear that they would never be able to start a family. these are their real fears. so what do you we would say to them, number one, to have them vote. right. but the number two, to alleviate their so that they're comfortable in voting. yeah, it's a great question because that's we all have fear of what's happening. and that is what then provokes. kamala, the thing is, afraid you can't get a house. so then here is with money from the government for you to buy a house. california. yet gavin newsom vetoed it. but passed a bill that for like $150,000 for illegal aliens, only to buy a house.

it's the moment if they create enough or the or the price controls which we know have destroyed every country that's ever implemented them. but left has to because their policies make prices impossible, as we are now experiencing aigs up double digits, 10% for 50%, 80% in some cases. and what's government's answer? oh, here we're going to we're going to price those greedy grocers who are making a 1.6% profit. i mean, if you're a price gouging, you're a very bad one. i mean, at least gouge 10%. i mean, come on. but it's the excuse use to say you can't live life on your own government has to save you. the answer to young people is, first of all, to not to talk about it with people, to talk about it with their to know that this is not normal. the fear dynamic situation, not having a child of global warming. right. as an example maybe it's your child who will solve the

problems that we've all been experiencing. but it's that deep and it's being able talk with people to recognize this is not organic it's not normal and it's unsustainable. we don't want it to collapse. so we're we have to remake the country. we want to stop it before it continues to do damage. and as young people, they're in the perfect position to recognize that they're afraid. and then to decide is the of a decision. i talk about this at the end of the book, the decision to not governed by fear to your critical mind and to then make decisions accordingly and to presume that what you're hearing, making you so afraid can be changed and that it shouldn't stop you from living your life. a decision each day? yes. first of all, welcome to the tar state. thank you. congratulations. your new book. thank you. fantastic. and in my view, it's a must read as we get into the critical of

the election, all of us are going to everyday encounters where we might have an opportunity to speak to an independent undecided. right. if you were to have what i would call like an elevator speech moment, that's not my specialty, though. as you can tell. i have the two hour flight to here moment. yes, but an opportunity to share just briefly with someone who's you. i've listened to both candidates. i'm not political. i'm not following it closely. yes you're a republican or you're going to a republican ticket. why what? what am i missing? what would you say. all right. i would say, don't think that you're voting a certain party's ticket that. you're voting for the people who have behaved a certain way and delivered on the issues that who has delivered on the issues? forget their parties. kamala harris. and the last four years of the destruction of the economy, world wars, israel being a by terrorists. on october we're coming up to a

year on that attack in israel, russia and ukraine. the debacle of afghanistan, which was the key to making bad guys think that they could do what they wanted. i still about china and taiwan and it's like the decision is clear if like the last four years we will go back to reagan if you like the last four years then vote for kamala harris and you'll get it on steroids. if and thank goodness, trump's success is recent enough where you can point to trump's success. strongest economy literally in human history, energy independence. we were an exporter. that's important because when there's more oil on the market, the price of oil goes down. russia and iran rely their income. the gdp is money they can do things when oil is high, when the price of oil goes down. certainly not relying on

tourism. right. like so, france can rely on tourism. iran can't. so it means that's why you have fewer less adventurism? because there's no money for the bad guys. unless, of course, you send them pallets of billions of dollars, as obama did with iran. so and then you shut them out. but the elevator, it's not about parties. this is about who's done what. if you're you're making a choice about who to go out with for a night on the. do you choose the person who got out of jail and who did a home invasion robbery and is has general life and doesn't tell you the truth and is always lying to you? or do you choose the person who's got a history that proves that they're reliable? it's that simple. people have to the left is major nervous about voting for republicans because hitler right. because hitler. but that's the lie. so it's about. do you want more of this insanity?

none of this is normal. it was created on a dime by. by. and the spending, the green new deal spending disguised as the inflation reduction act of. biden admitted it a week or so ago, saying we should have called it what it was. that's the inflation, the billions of spending, billions for electric vehicle chargers across the country. i think was like it was 40 or 50 billion. they built eight chargers, eight. so i'm sorry. that was obviously too rides. i hope that worked all right. yes, sir. hi, tammy. welcome to charlotte. i'm charlie dunn. and my question is this a great fear that i have? is that the outcome of this election could be dependent. primarily on one issue and

abortion. am i justified in my fear. well, you know, the big issue number one is the economy. and this is what i've said to, republicans, because people got upset when when trump took the phrase reproductive rights there to cast reproduction to cast abortion as some of act of freedom is is a lie, 70%. now we know of women who have an abortion. if they had the money to keep child, they would. seven out of ten abortions are either because they're financially they believe, financially incapable of doing this or working two jobs, or they're also going to school or there's pressure from outside. someone else is saying that to them and pushing them and they don't have. the financial stability or their personal life stability to be able to resist the outside

pressure and usually perhaps would be a man or parents. and you can't afford this we can't afford this. don't do this. real to that. how is it having to choose an abortion? because you have enough money in the united states, america to have a child. how is that a choice? it's not. i was the of an affair. my mother was 40, unemployed. not a great maker at the time, having an affair with a married man and she got pregnant. pre birth control pills and he left. he was involved allegedly with the mob. and she left her and after she had several. i maybe two months along. and a man came up to door and had an envelope of about $10,000. this was in 1962, which was a lot of money when you had to go to mexico or pay a doctor,

enough to do it. and they said, okay, here you go. you need to get rid of this. and she said, okay. and then she kept the money and she kept the baby. i'm grateful, but. but that was a choice. she had the. that was a choice. don't have the left. i'm sick and tired of it having the left cast women who are living in an economy that don't allow to be able to address an emergency, a health emergency, a pregnant c a a child's emergency c because they don't have the money, they don't have the right jobs. and they've lost all their savings and their house is underwater. and birth control failed, which it does sometimes or sometimes you're not thinking. and and things happen. seven out of ten of those women, though would say, i want an economy where women can say, and this is why abortions down during trump's presidency.

more than anything else, women could say, wait a minute, i can do this. i want women to say that on every single issue, you want to have a franchise. wait a minute, i can do this or you to move into a house and get out of that apartment. the in the urban area. wait minute. i can do this. you're not going to a millionaire. you're going to just living somewhere else. and you can pay the move. you can? oh, you know, maybe everyone's fighting. you know, they don't want school vouchers because the left wants you in that indoctrination center. and you can wait a minute. i can do this. i can pay for that school with abortion. the same situation when you're there. my mother, in telling me the story was she got that cash and it was it was like, oh because that's what you're supposed to do. and she was a little bit afraid of his of his group. and then she she had her with her. and my mother said exactly that phrase, you, i can do this. and i am. how many how many are not here

because they did not have a choice. don't believe this. pro-choice garbage reproductive rights is a conservative issue because it's an economic issue and more women will have more freedom to make that choice that now women are running around. or to your point that, oh my god, because everything is so awful, but they're going to give me abortion. they've got abortion even, though. i can't pay my rent. and there's on the street and my katzmann stole and and and what i going to do and we don't know if we can where going to live next week and what about you you have to join the military so that we have some money and then you'll be sent off. you to fight the middle eastern war. i mean, what life is that? but ladies, it's okay. you can have abortion. that is the last. that is certainly not feminist. and now the truth of that has to be called out for what it is, because don't want the government telling them what they can do with their body, which would include food, forced

vaccinations in order. keep your job. you want choices. vaccinations. good. we know the history of vaccination, but we want information. we want trials. we want to know what the results are. we you to know what's going to happen to our baby with the vaccinations for children. choice is involve information and not government coercion, which is what abortion is now in this with seven out of ten, that's government coercion like china, which was simply more obvious about it. our government and the left. the democrats are saying this is empowering no woman that i know who's had an abortion or or has miscarried has ever forgotten that child sometimes. oh, yeah it would have been 12 this year or. yeah i wonder what what that kid would have been doing or it never leaves you. i've never had thank god having

go through that, but i've had many friends who've had both experiences and it changes them. and the left is lying because they would say, oh, don't worry you have to live in the city and you don't have any money, but we can get you that abortion. how dare they cast this as some empowerment. i see what happens when you ask me a question because i fought on issue. i fought on that issue on the basis. i don't think the government should be telling us how to live our lives. that informs my conservative ideal to this day about independence and freedom from an overarching government that uses all these other reasons to try to ruin us. so that was my answer. i'm sorry. i think that's it. but will be the economy. it's the economy that drives this election for all the right reasons. women understand being able to get an abortion means nothing. if i'm living on the street, that's issue. all right. thank you, everyone. thank you very much. appreciate it. fear itself.

yeah. oh, we have have somebody who's not following the rules. surprise. sorry. we're out of time for questions. sorry about that. all right, tammy, you so much. that was fantastic. that was really fantastic. come on. a big round of applause for tammy bruce.