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tv   Trump Nominees in Their Own Words - Pam Bondi  CSPAN  January 9, 2025 5:45am-6:38am EST

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thank you, congresswoman
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boehner, now. and thank you for this cause. greene got it. thank you, congresswoman bono mack and thank you for championing this cause on behalf of our country. and thank you as well. ranking member butterfield, for having us here today. and also to congressman stearns from florida and to all the committee members. we truly appreciate this. i'm here to tell you about what florida is doing to try to stop prescription drug abuse. as congressman stearns told you, just to put it in perspective of the top. 100 oxycodone dealers in the entire country, 98 of them were in florida. now we have 13. and that's what the legislation been in effect barely a year. so last year we had over 900 pain management clinics registered within our state. today we have 580. and i guarantee you that number is going to continue to plummet.
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i want to outline now briefly our comprehensive legislation and what we've done in our state. as you know, we have become the oxy express, and that's why i worked so closely with general conway, with general dewine in ohio, because what was happening, people were buying their drugs in florida, taking them to kentucky. i had to hug a mother in kentucky when i was with general conway, who lost her daughter. two years ago to prescription drugs that were bought in florida and that had to stop. so we passed with that. we passed tough new legislation in our state. and we're very proud of that legislation. long, long overdue. let me tell you that the. common characteristics of a pill mill in florida were cash business, 200 to $300 cash. armed guards at the door. little to no medical equipment at all. just shelves and shelves of pills. these doctors who we call drug dealers wearing white coats, are
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sitting in a back room just signing prescription pads. and it was legal and it was killing our kids. so we had very weak regulatory oversight of the pain management clinics. we had limited oversight of the physicians were dispensing, which was very important. and we had a non-operational prescription drug monitoring program. so with that, we've now passed some of some very tough legislation, and we're very proud of that. one of the most important things to me was that we banned doctors from dispensing most abuse narcotics, and we made that a violation of the ban, both a third degree felony. and how do you heard a bad doctor take license away? so with that dispensing ban, we feel that we've been very successful as well. we also have required we created a standard of care for physicians prescribing controlled substance says we
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required these doctors to either electronically prescribe or to use counterfeit proof prescription pads, none of which had been done in our state. we also added, as i said, enhanced criminal penalties, which very important and required all of these pharmacies to be re permit rated by the state of florida. we did great things. we now have the pdmp up and running, which if you have any questions, i can discuss that with you as well. and with that, you know, we can always create tough new laws and move on to something else. but what we did in florida with scott's help, we started strikeforce and that's a joint with federal, state and officials all working together. you can pass these laws and move on and it's not going to work. we are targeted in these guys and we are putting them out of business. and with that, just. we have seven strikeforce forces throughout our state. and if you have questions about the strikeforce, i explain that
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in greater detail. but what we've done since had the strikeforce is have truly gone in and started putting these guys out of business. we're targeting them and we're not letting up on them. also have an educational proposal component of this legislation and that involves narcotics overdose prevention, education. no and this task force, these these remarkable people have done an amazing job of going into our schools and educating our children about this. we've also instituted, along with dea, state, drug takeback days. i've participated personally in as many of those as i could. you would not believe the drugs are being turned in and it's gotten so successful that we plan on putting permanent drop boxes up at our police and our sheriffs offices as well. at two drug takeback days alone. we seized over five tons of prescription drugs. unbelievable. so and we're very pleased to
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announce that. as of february 12th, february 2012, our strike force efforts have resulted in 2040 arrest. 34 of those are doctors. we've seized 390 weapons, almost $5 million. but there's one other problem. i've run out of time. but that's the babies being born addicted to prescription drugs and is our newest fight this session. we are not going to give up on that as well. thank you for all of your efforts. and we do know we have a long way to go, but i don't think any of us in this room are going to stop. thank you. thank you very much. i'm going to recognize myself for 5 minutes of questioning and i would like to begin with general attorney bondi, and i know you care passionately and you and i've spoken about the opiate babies. and, you know, it's my belief that when people dabble with heroin or cocaine, understand they're dabbling with the potential addiction. they don't necessarily think that when they start playing around with pharmaceuticals. can you speak to why you're so focused on the opiate babies? i mean, you really are
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passionate about it. and i'd love for you to you ran out of time, so please, talking about it for a little bit, if you could. absolutely you know, right after we passed legislation last session, i started getting calls from neonatal intensive care nurses, neonatologist, and said there's another problem and you've got to come see this. i went to saint joseph's hospital in tampa. 20% of the babies going through the neonatal intensive care unit are born addicted to prescription drugs. now, imagine worst addict. you can see on tv going through those withdrawals. that's how these babies are born into, this world. their incubators to be covered with blankets. there sensitive to light, to sound, to touch instead of milk. they're getting morphine or methadone. that's how these kids are coming into this world. all children's hospitals in saint petersburg. that's what a premier hospital for children. 30% of the babies going through the neonatal intensive care unit born addicted to prescription drugs and has to stop.
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you take it from a cost perspective. i take it from a life for babies, lives. but if you look at it from a cost perspective, saint joe's had to expand their nick you just to accommodate eight these babies. so it's cost taxpayers a fortune and i a lot of it really has to do with education and that's why we have legislation this session. i've talked to adoption lawyers, i've talked to nurses. we've in the board of health, we've brought in the board of medicine. it's all about working together to educate these women because unfortunately, i think some of these women will say, i've stopped drinking alcohol, i've stopped smoking marijuana. but because it's the word prescription drugs, they don't realize the harm that it's doing to their unborn child. what scared me to death, chairman bono mack, was when i when i asked the doctor, i said, we can't. this become the next crack baby epidemic. and he said, we've already surpassed it.
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i thank you. i just wanted say we don't even know the lonmembers. the senate, when the house managers gave you their presents and when they submitted their brief they repeatedly referenced hunter biden and burisma. they spoke to you for. 21 hours and they referenced biden. aubrey asthma over 400 times. and when they gave these presentations, they said there was nothing, nothing to see. it was a sham.
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this is fiction in their trial memorandum. the managers described this as baseless. now, why did they say that? why did they invoke biden or burisma over. 400 times? the reason they needed to do that is because are here saying that the president must be impeached and removed from office for raising a concern. and that's why we have to talk about this today. they say sham, they say baseless because they say this because if it's okay for someone to say, hey, you know what? maybe there's something here worth raising, then their case crumbles because they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt
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that there is no basis to raise this concern. but that's not what public records show. here are just a few of the public sources that flagged questions surrounding this very same issue. the united kingdom serious fraud office. deputy assistant secretary of state george kent. hunter biden's former business associate. an abc white house reporter. good morning america, abc the washington post. the new york times. ukrainian law enforcement and the obama state department itself. they all raised this issue. we would prefer not to be talking about this. we would prefer not to be discussing this. but the house managers have
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placed this squarely at issue. so we must address it. let's look at the facts. in early 2014, joe biden, our vice president of the united states, led the united states foreign policy in ukraine with the goal rooting out corruption, according to an annual study published by transparency international. during this time, ukraine was one of the most corrupt countries in the entire world. in ukraine, there's a natural gas company called, burisma, very similar, has been owned by an oligarch named mykola. still, chayefsky. here's what happened very shortly after vice president biden was made, u.s. point man for ukraine, his son biden ends up on the board. burisma working for and paid by the oligarch. so chayefsky is.
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in february 2014. in wake of anticorruption uprising, the people of ukraine zale chayefsky flees the country, flees ukraine. so chayefsky, the oligarch, is well known. george the very first to witness that the democrats called during their public hearings testified so chayefsky stood out for his self dealings even among other oligarchs. house managers didn't tell you that. and or kurt volker folklore explained that burisma had a, quote, very bad reputation as a company for corruption and money laundering. end quote. house managers didn't you that burisma was so corrupt that george kent said he intervened to prevent u.s. aid from
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co-sponsoring an event with burisma? you know what this event was? it a child's contest and the prize was a camera. they were so burisma that our country wouldn't even co-sponsor a children's event. with burisma in march 2014, the united kingdom serious fraud office opened some money laundering investigation into the oligarch. so chayefsky and his company, burisma, the very next month april 2014, according to a public report. hunter biden quietly joins the board of burisma. remember, 2014 was when vice president biden began leading ukraine policy. here's how hunter biden came to join burisma's board in april
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2014. he brought on the board by devin archer. his business partner, devin archer was college roommates with chris hynes steps of secretary of state john. all three men. hunter biden devin archer and chris hynes had all started an investment firm together. public records show that april 16th, 2014. devin archer meets with vice president biden at the white. just two days later, on april 18th, 2014 is when hunter biden quietly joins burisma. according to public reporting, remember, this is just one month after the united kingdom's serious fraud office opened a money laundering case into burisma. hunter biden joins the board and
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only ten days after hunter biden joins the board. british authorities seize. $23 million in british bank accounts connected to the oligarch still chayefsky. the owner of burisma. did hunter biden leave the board then? no. the british authority has also announced that it had started a criminal into potential money laundering. then hunter biden leave the board. no. what happened was then? only then did the company choose to announce that hunter biden had joined the board after the assets of burisma and his owners, olszewski were frozen and a criminal investigation had begun, hunter biden's decision to join burisma raised flags
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immediately. one article from may 2014 stated, the appointment of joe biden's son to the board of ukranian gas ukrainian gas firm burisma has eyebrows.n gas firm the world over even an outlet with bias for democrats pointed out hunter biden's activities created a conflict of interest for joe biden. the article the move raises about a potential conflict of interest for joe biden. now even chris hynes. hunter own business partner had grave concerns he thought that working with burisma was unacceptable says chris hynes. he was worried about the corruption, the geopolitical risk and, how bad it would look.
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so he wisely himself from biden and devin archer's appointments to burisma. he didn't simply call his stepfather secretary of state and say, i have a problem with this. he didn't tell his friends, hey, guys, i'm not getting on the board. i want nothing to do with this. he went so far as to send an email to a senior state department officials about. this issue, ys chris hynes. he wrote, apparently, devin hunter have joed the board of burisma and a press release went out today. i can't speak to why ey decided to, but there is no investment by our firm in their company. what did hunter biden do? he stayed on the board. what did chris hynes do?
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he subsequently stopped doing business with his college roommate devin archer and his friend hunter biden. chris hynes spokesperson said the lack of judgment in this matter was a major catalyst for mr. hynes, ending his business relationship with mr. archer and mr. biden. now the media also noticed the same day an abc news reporter asked obama house press secretary jay carney about it. here's what happened. hunter biden is not taking a position with. the largest oil and gas company holding company in ukraine. is there any concern about this, the appearance of a of a conflict there? senior president, i would refer you to the vice president's office. i saw those reports. you know, hunter biden and other members of the biden family are obviously private citizens and
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where they work is not does not an endorsement by the administration or by the vice president or president. but i would refer you to the vice president's office the next day, the washington post ran a story about it. it said the appointment of the vice president's son. a ukrainian oil board looks nepotistic at best. nefarious at worst. again, the appointee of the vice president's son to a ukrainian oil board looks nepotistic at best, nefarious worst. and the media didn't stop questioning asking here. it kept going. here's abc. you have to fight the cancer of corruption. but then something strange happens. just three weeks later, a ukrainian natural gas company,
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burisma, accused of corruption, appoints hunter biden. seen here in their promotional videos to their board of directors paying his firm more $1,000,000 a year. here's more from abc. continued on ukraine wasn't the only country where hunter biden's business and his father's diplomacy as vice president intersected. it also happened in china. this video shows chinese diplomats greeting vice president biden as he arrived in beijing in december of 2013. right by his side, his son, hunter. less than two weeks later, hunter's firm had new business creating investment fund in china involving. the government controlled bank of china with reports they hope to raise $1.5 billion. in fact, every witness who was asked hunter biden's involvement with burisma agreed there was a pattern show appearance of a
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conflict of interest. multiple house democrat witnesses, including those from the department of state, the national security council, and others. unanimous lee testified there was a potential appearance of a conflict of interest. these were there witnesses. how much money did biden get for being on the board? well, you start looking at this bank records, according to reports, between 2014 and october 2015. burisma paid more than $3.1 million to devin archer and hunter biden. that's over the course of a year and a half. how do we know this? some of devin archer's bank were disclosed during an unrelated federal criminal case having nothing to do with hunter biden. these bank records show 70 months that barry's smile wired
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to payments of $83,333. not just for one month. for two months. for three months, but for seven teen months, according to reuters. sources report that of the two payments of 83,000 and $333 each one was for hunter biden and one devin archer. now, hunter biden was paid significantly more than board members for major u.s. fortune 100 companies such as goldman sachs, comcast, citigroup. the typical board member of these fortune 100 companies. we know titans of their industry. they're highly qualified. and as such, they're well compensated. even so, hunter biden was paid significantly more. this is how well he was
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compensated. did so. hunter biden is paid over $83,000 a month while the average american family of four during that time each year made less than $54,000. and that's according to u.s. census bureau during that time. and this is what's been reported about his work on the board. the washington post said, quote, what specific duties hunter biden carried out for burisma are not fully known. end quote. the new yorker. quote, once or twice a year, he attended burisma board meetings and energy forums that took place in europe. end quote. speaking with abc news about his qualified commissions to be on burisma's board. hunter biden didn't point to any of the usual qualifications of a board member. hunter biden had no experience.
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natural gas, no experience in the energy sector, no experience with ukrainian affairs. as far as we know, he doesn't speak ukrainian so naturally the media has asked questions about his board membership. why was hunter biden on this board? if your last name wasn't biden, do you think you would have been asked to be on the of burisma? i don't know. i don't know. probably not. so go back and talk about his time on the board. remember he joined burisma's board april 2014, while the kingdom had an open money laundering case against burisma and its owner, the oligarch bill chayefsky. on august 20th, 2014, four months later, the ukrainian prosecutor general's office initiated a money laundering investigation into the same oligarch.
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so. this is one of 15 investigations into burisma and sale chayefsky according to a recent public statement made by the current prosecutor general. on january 16, 2015, a prosecutor's bull chayefsky, the owner of burisma on whose hunter biden sat on his board on the country's wanted for fraud. while hunter biden is on the board, then a british court orders. so chayefsky's. $23 million in assets be unfrozen. why was the money unfrozen? deputy assistant secretary kent testified to it. somebody in the general prosecutor's office of ukraine shut case issued a letter to his lawyer. that money went poof, essentially paid a bribe to make the case away. that is a strong assumption.
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yes, sir. he also testified that the ukrainian prosecutor general's office actions led to the unfreezing of the assets after george kent's confirmation. that prosecutor was. viktor becomes the prosecutor general. this is the prosecutor that you'll hear about later. the one that vice president biden publicly said he wanted of office. in addition to flagging questions about previous prosecutor's actions, george kent also specifically voiced other concerns. this time to the vice president's office about hunter biden in february 2015, when he raised concerns about hunter biden to vice president biden office in a briefing call with the national security staff of the office of the vice president in february of 2015, i raised my concern. hunter biden's status as a board
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member could create the perception of conflict of interests. but house managers didn't tell you that this is all while hunter biden said on burisma's board, did hunter biden stop working for burisma? no. did vice president biden stop leading the obama administration's foreign policy efforts in ukraine? no. in the meantime, vice biden is still at the forefront of the u.s. ukraine policy. he pledges $1,000,000,000 loan guarantee to ukraine contingent on its progress in rooting out corruption around the same time, the $1 billion announcement other people raised the issue of a conflict. as special obama administration special envoy for energy policy told the new yorker yorker it
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raised hunter biden's partizan position on the board of burisma. he raised it directly with the vice president himself. this is a special envoy to president and the media questions too. december eight, 2015. the new york times an article the prosecutor general shokin was investigating burisma and its owner sol chayefsky. the times report it hears, quote, the credible, the credibility of the vice president's anti-corruption message may have been by the associated of his son, hunter biden in quote, with burisma and its owner ziolkowski. and it wasn't just one reporter who asked questions about the line between burisma and the obama administration. as we learned recently through reporting on fox news on january 19th, 2016, there was a meeting between obama administrator,
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russian officials and ukrainian prosecutors. ken vogel, journalist for the new times, asked the state department about this meeting. he wanted more information about the meeting. quote, where u.s. support for prosecutions of burisma holdings in the united kingdom and ukraine were discussed. end quote. but the story never ran. around the time of the reported story, january 2016 meeting between the obama administration and ukrainian officials took place, according a ukrainian press report, as translator. it says, quote, the u.s. department of state made it clear to the ukrainian authorities that it was linking the $1 billion in loan guarantees to the dismissal of prosecutor general viktor shokin. end quote. now, we all know from the obama
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administration and from the words of vice president biden himself, he advocated for the prosecutor general's dismissal. there was ongoing an investigation into the oligarch zale chayefsky, the owner of burisma at the time. we know this because on february 2nd, 2016, the prosecutor general obtained a renewal of a court order to seize the ukrainian oligarchs assets. a kiev post article published on february 4th, 2016, says the oligarch still chayefsky is, quote, suspect acted of committing a criminal offense of illicit enrichment. end quote. over the next few weeks, vice president had multiple calls with ukraine's president poroshenko. days after the last call, on february 4th, 24th, 2016, a dc
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consultant reached out to the state department to request a meeting to discuss burisma. we know what she said because the email was released under the freedom information act. the consultant explicitly invoked hunter biden's name as a board member in an email summarizing the call. the state department official says that the consultant, quote, noted that two high profile citizens are affiliated with the company, including hunter as a board member. end quote. she added that the consultant would, quote, like to talk with undersecretary of state novelli about getting a better understanding of how the u.s. came to the determination that the country is corrupt. end quote. to be clear, this email documents that u.s. government had determined burisma to be corrupt and to was seeking a meeting with an extremely state
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department official to discuss the us government position. her pitch for the meeting specifically used hunter biden's name and according to the email, the meeting was set for a few days later and later that month on march 29th, 2016, the ukrainian parliament finally votes to fire the prosecutor general. this is the prosecutor general investigating the oligarch owner burisma on whose board. hunter biden set two days after the prosecutor general is voted out. vice president biden announces that the us will provide. $335 million in security assistance to ukraine. he soon that the us will provide $1 billion in loan guarantees to ukraine. now let's talk about one of the democrats central witnesses, ambassador yovanovitch. in may 2016, ambassador
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yovanovitch was nominated to be ambassador in ukraine. here's what happened. she was preparing for her senate confirmation hearing. congressman stefanik had asked you how the obama-biden state department had prepared you to answer questions about burisma and hunter biden's specifically. you recall that, yes, out of thousands of companies in the ukraine, the only one that you recall. the obama-biden state department prepare you to answer questions about was the one where the vice president's son was on the board. is that fair? yes. so she's being prepared to come before all of you all of you and talk about world issues. going to be in charge of the ukraine and what did they feel. only company. the company that it was important to brief her on in case she got a question.
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burisma a. ambassador yovanovitch was confirmed. july 2016 as the obama administration was coming to a close in september 2016. a ukrainian court cancels the oligarch sail chayefsky's arrest warrant for lack of progress in the case in mid january 2017, burisma announces that all legal proceedings against it and sale chayefsky have been closed. both of these things happened while hunter biden sat on the board of burisma. around this time, vice president biden leaves office years later now former vice president biden publicly details what we know happened his threat to withhold more than $1,000,000,000 in loan guarantees unless shokin was fired. here's vice president tonight. and i'm not going or we're not going to give you the billion dollars. i said you have no authority.
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you're not the president. the president said i should call him. i said, i'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars. i said, you're not getting the billions. i'm going to be leaving here. i think it was about hours. i look, i said i'm leaving in 6 hours. if the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. or son of a -- got fired and they put in place someone who was solid at the time. what he didn't say on that video, according to the new york times, this was the prosecutor investigating burisma shokin. what he also didn't say on the video was that his son was being paid. signet token amounts by the oligarch owner of charisma to sit on that board only then does hunter biden leave the board. he stays on the board until april 20, 19.
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now, on november 20, in november 20, 19, hunter biden signs, an affidavit saying, quote, he's been unemployed, has no other monthly income. since may 2019. this was in november of 2019. so we know from after april 2019 to may. 2019 through november. 2019, he was unemployed by his own statement. april 20, 19 to november 20, 19, despite his record resignation from the board. the media continued to raise the issue relating to a potential conflict of interest. on july 22nd, 2019, the washington post wrote the fired prosecco. peter general shokin, quote, believes his ouster was because
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of his interest in the company. in quote referring to burisma, the post wrote that quote had remained in his post. he would have questioned hunter biden on july 25th, 2019. three days later, president trump speaks with president zelensky. he says the other thing there's a lot of talk about biden's son that biden stopped prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that. so whatever you can do with this attorney general would be great. biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution. so if you can look into it, it looks horrible to me in quote, the house managers talked about the bidens of burisma, 400 times, but never gave you the full picture. but here are those who did.
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the united kingdom's serious fraud unit deputy. assistant secretary of state george kent chris hynes, the abc white house reporter, abc good morning america. the washington post, the new york times. ukrainian law enforcement and the obama state department. they all thought there was cause to raise the issue about bidens and burisma. now the house managers might say without evidence that everything we just have said has been debunked, that the evidence points entirely and unequivocally in the other direction. that is a distraction. you've heard from the house managers. they do not believe that there was any concern to raise here, that all of this was baseless. and all we are saying is that
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there was a basis to talk about this, to raise this issue, and that is enough. i yield myi'm pam bondi. our party's theme tonight is america the land of and listening to the stories of discoveries and deliverance. you can't help but be proud to call this country home.
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but for joe biden, it's been the land of opportunism, not opportunity. as a career prosecutor and former attorney general of florida, i fought corruption and i know what it looks like, whether it's by people wearing pinstripe suits or orange jumpsuits, as the democrats convention we were told to look at joe biden as the model of integrity. but when you look at his 47 year career in politics, the people who benefited are his family members, not the american people. let's take a closer look. we all know about joe's son, hunter biden, a corrupt ukrainian oligarch. put hunter on the board of his gas company even though he had no experience in ukraine or in the energy sector. none. yet he was paid millions to do nothing. he only had one qualification that mattered. he was the son of the man in charge of distributing u.s. aid to ukraine and recently reported
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information revealed that a few months after hunter biden joined, that corrupt company's board, the obama-biden state, began doing business with him, even when, it remained under investigation for corruption. and it gets worse. that very same company was being investigated by a ukrainian prosecutor. joe biden, the vice president of the united states, has threatened to withhold aid to ukraine unless that same prosecutor was fired. and then he was fired. hunter only resigned that board just before dad announced his campaign for president. now let's talk about china fact checked. joe biden flew to china on air force two with hunter along for the ride. they said he was just there as a family member. but we know that's untrue.
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in beijing. hunter didn't just go sightsee. he had meetings with his chinese partners. hunter even arranged for his dad to meet with one of the partners ten days later. those chinese communist bankers approved millions to go to hunter's firm. and those bankers work for the chinese communist party, which oppresses their people, cheated american workers for decades, and covered up a deadly virus. to this day. hunter controls a 10% stake in that firm. and joe biden's done more than look. the other way on china. he said the chinese aren't our competition. come on, man. they're not bad folks. come on, joe. talk to the folks in middle america who lost countless jobs to china while your son was getting rich with them. but there's more fact there have
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been numerous press reports that have shown other close biden members benefited from joe's 47 year political career. joe biden was point on iraq, the president of a construction firm met with biden's team in the white house and then who did they hired to build thousands of houses in iraq? joe biden's close family member, who you guessed it, had no in the industry and no experience in iraq. a company official bragged that it helps to have a family member of the vice president, his partner. the family member put it more bluntly by saying there's a line of 740 sevens filled cash ready, invest. now let's follow the money south again. as reported in the press, yet another close family member of joe's set his sights on costa rica and where millions of
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dollars flowed from the obama-biden in taxpayer back loans to projects linked to yes that same family member. these aren't isolated incidents. it is a deliberate pattern of conduct. and that's just he did as vice president. imagine what he'd do as president. how many american families would be allowed to get away with this? why should there be one standard for the elite political and another set of rules for the rest of us? when millions of americans voted for donald trump, they knew he'd be different. and he is. he's a tough, no nonsense outsider who can't be bought or intimidated. he won't even take a paycheck from the american people. he donates his paycheck to charities across this country. democrats have been lecturing
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america about integrity for four years while their nominee been writing the textbook on abuse of power for 40 years. if they want to make this election a choice between who's saving america and who swindled america, bring it on. joe says he'll build back. yeah. build the bidens back. better. our president is in this to build a safer, better and stronger america. and he will finish what he started to keep this a real land of opportunity for everyone. if you want to check voting status, secure your or register to vote text vote. to 880224 member. the best is yet to come.
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and i'm here not as part of that great legal team over there, but i'm very proud to be part of america first policy, constitutional litigation team. so i was here just to explain, just a few things. and you know what john said? this is this is about our constitution. this isn't just for conservatives. this is for our media. this is for everyone out there about censorship. this is for democrats and even progressives whose speech should be protected under the first amendment. if you recall, tulsi gabbard, she sued. do you remember that tulsi
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gabbard was censored when she was running for president. and so she sued and, you know, people say that they have immunity. they meaning youtube, facebook, twitter. under section 230. well, here's where that's changed. section 230 came about in 1996, and it was an offshoot of the decency act to protect really to protect against children being exploited online. that's what this was all about. so take it back to 96. how many users were there then? probably about 20 million. on aol, right? president 1996. now, what do we have? facebook, twitter? we have billions. world wide. so times have changed. the internet is flourishing. but first amendment is still must be protected. no one could envision what was about to happen with the internet in our country. now, with billions, billions of users worldwide. so that's why this is so important.
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and when you have mark zuckerberg and others being called in front of congress and being coerce and being questioned by all these congressmen, then you also have mark zuckerberg emailing with dr. fauci about covid. and in fact, a lot of their e-mails that we received have been redacted, not just because of phone numbers, but because they were trading in trade secrets, things that they were. so a private company is communicating with the federal government and parts of that were redacted. so that makes them they're not immune anymore. they are not immune anymore. it was coercion, collusion, working together. and they cannot hide from the first amendment. that's why this is so very, very important, even facebook's board oversight board that mark zuckerberg created the oversight board came back and said there were problems.
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there were problems and it lacked consist instantly being applied to everyone by community standards. so that's why this is so important for us, for our future, for all political parties, for all human beings around the world. we believe in the first amendment and america first policy. we'll fight for it.
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