demographic changes.

>> there we go. most impressive here is i'm a proud alum of the university of southern california. [applause] it is great to be here places on campus in the marching band was coming in and this is where i want to be. i'm so excited to be here today. a little background on me i anchored the local news hosted a state wide show called the issue is. we got the name the issue is that or if i've told the story, are my hero and broadcasting was kim russert. he used to start to show every sunday with our issues this sunday. i cannot take the name into press because they already have that. but i said let me do something and naming the show to honor

tim. when i think of the issue is i think of tim and betsy and her great work. the greatest sunday show in the history of our immediate we have betsy to thank for that. thank you all for being here today. i just want to introduce our panel real quickly and then get into it. chris is the sacramento bureau chief for politico. helping to lead the california coverage. they do this extraordinary playbook. they do the national playbook there is also a california political playbook which everyone should subscribe to it for free. it gives you all the most important news in california politics is like my bible that i read every day. chris helps oversee that and a lot more. chris is here ladies and gentlemen. [applause] jessica is the chair of the california republican party. when we were with each share of the national gop last year she

said she was the best chair in the country. she has had extraordinary success in helping to grow the party especially in some of they're down ballot races we've seen in the last year. jessica melania patterson. [applause] betsy fisher martin as i mentioned is meet the press she now runs institute for women in politics and the leading expert in that space. in terms of women in politics and also the media. [applause] and ed, is a longtime republican poster and strategist whose run so the most successful republican campaigns around the country. he's flown in for this so good to see you in l.a. welcome ed. thank you all. [applause] i thought, let's get things started by getting straight to the point. the point of this particular discussion is why did trump win?

and to talk about his historical political comeback. in our attention driven economy in a sentence or two, the real bottom line why did trump win? >> i came at it very much of the democratic perspective in terms of our coverage. biden coming on when they switch the nomination. we talked a lot about trump and what he did. sure we will on this panel from the democratic perspective and to pick up from the last panel a lot of people i don't think we're hearing how these policies predicted rule out a lot of policies. i think about for home buyers. you look across those and echoing with one of the students said trump was going big, democrats are going very small.

small ball process. it didn't really break through in the way they hoped it would focus on long run-on sentence. maybe one sentence or two sentence by the trump win? >> american people work through the biden/hairs high ministration neglect sounds like a republican regards of a tv producer read quicksand about from trump about for trumbull mean your vote will be cheaper for quick question now is will that actually happen? ad. >> i am a republican. i actually came here ready to promote the campaign that donald trump won 31 because he ran a better campaign. he won because she ran a worse campaign it is that simple. i should not have watched his press conference today on the crash. it was embarrassing. and i will say to the group that

for a guy that was a talk all the time but common sense he shows very little common sense sometimes. and, if you want to see what a true president looks like we just past the 39th anniversary two days ago of the crash of the challenger. and, if you want to see a true president and through true president showing compassion as it what a president should do at a time like this, watch that speech. it's one of the best speeches showing compassion for the voters and for the tragedy that i've seen in my entire time in politics. click to talk in vegas and see it this morning president trump went into the white house briefing room and he blamed the crash likely on di. and then he was impressed on for evidence of what dei had to do with it he said he didn't have any evidence but had common

sense. and it probably has something to do with it. but did not explain exactly how. he blamed potentially by demonstration, the obama administration, people to judge the red uptime and there are literally pulling the bodies out of that water and not all the people have even been identified yet. does that go to the idea that trump can't help himself? [laughter] click some of it is. i'm a good friend of james. i've liked him for a long time. certainly like his wife a great deal and love their back-and-forth. i think sometimes james comes across as very negative. but i think one of the probes we have in politics today is both sides are running negative campaigns. what both sides are doing is teaching voters what to be against it. not what you before. and until we get our politicians

to start talking about what they are for. if you look at what james is saying, most of what he is saying is what you should before is a democrat. even though he mixes it with banter which everyone loves. my feeling about trump is i don't talk about him like he is a disease. he is a symptom of where our country is today. and the main thing our politicians do wrong is they don't understand basic problem-solving. her checkbook problem. you talk about solutions. have to stop the third phase and think about unintended consequence. what we are suffering from today is the unintended cup consequences of campaign-finance reform in the '90s. things that came out of it at the same time but not only super pacs but social media, cable news, all adds to that

environment. it's very interesting if you look at turnout in 1990. like to look at two years to see the base. in 199035% of democrats and democratic primaries and 35% of republicans voted in republican primaries. in 2022, it was 17% of republicans voted in republican primaries and 15% of democrats voted in democrat primaries. the only people voting in the primaries not about the general election. the only people voting in our primary is far right and far left there picking people that want to fight over values not find solutions. and, until we start getting people that are going to turn out in the primaries fit centers 65% of the country we are not going to correct the problem. >> it's a good point. understand the political

journalism and the media environment as well as anybody. talk about the way trump use the media print thanks about the immediate compared to may be way the democrat use the media and how in this modern an environment that helped change the game. >> is a great question. trump is a tc barnum. he is a producer, he just runs the one the inauguration a week ago he siding what i call proclamation at the desk with his pen. he's playing for the media. the whole notion of trump unplugged. what you just saw is what we got. none of this is a surprise, right? that media has gone to that. there is no doubt about it for that is how he became the nominee in 2016. he got that initial first tap from the media by putting all of his rallies come back and we did

have a primary he with zero commentating around it. just because is getting eyeballs and clicks. that was the original ascension of him back in 2016. i think i just saw more of that happened. certainly attempts to do the fact checking. but he breaks through all of that and the brake strategy to avoid that mainstream media and go to the alternative outlets the podcasting we can talk him more about the baroque vote. meeting the non- likely voters where they were. no, they're not watching meet the press but they are listening to various podcasts and that was her strategy. >> if you look at the last month and a half of the election, he almost said no mainstream media interviews and kamala harris took so much incoming for not talking to the press and she was

doing that mainstream media interviews for trump was on was exclusively going after the podcasts. he ended up not really hurting with his base because he told them all the media is the enemies are not talking to that media why would you talk to the enemy? >> how would you three hours. and then other thing is my picked up were left off and he has a lot of a look of concern of it outlooks embedded with this i smoked right now these rights and their started producing know there is no sort access is something that impressive when they were doing

you know, initiatives they wanted to do and they had media coming there so that's with the people seat nicely doctor phil out there in chicago that stuff is breaking through continues to. >> and gets into the social media and obey. >> well the people on "fox news" channel and so cynical status negative but there's a positive is they'll look good on tv pretty know how to convey the message yes covid-19 get jessica in euro quick, jessica from 20 give us some of the numbers from because my california perspective, for someone, donald trump seems the bogeyman, that even associating with him, when hurt you look at the way adam schiff treated of steve the primary which we did altogether here and you see during the primary debate but he was also much bogeyman for a lot of republicans in the state of the last election to act know we certainly saw from the beginning of my well in february 2019,

2020 tackle we focus on telephone issues and individual it districts we do not going on the national name would often hear me say, the president is campaigning 11 states, and what we are focused on is making sure that we get a house which is what we did in 2020 and in 2022 picking up even with donald trump of the top about .20 pickup for congressional seat something lost by double digits. fast-forward to 2024, weight loss a congressional district donald trump one by five points itself changed significantly because of what people were experiencing in the four years for the biden harris administration and we also saw huge thinking about registration movement we took over the church when 19, socially the third-largest party the state, more people are choosing that

were been on the state then republican between 19 -year-old apart please let me in 2020 got the second back was interesting is to complacent 2022. since the midterms, california publicans have out registered democrats by five and a half times and without registered by the state by nine and a half times and in that almost six year time, register most new republicans despite people leaving our city coming in her was meant and trumps numbers are california. he flipped i moved to the right and 57 out of the 58 counties compared to 2020. harris democrat get worse in every single county. every single legislative district in every single congressional district and moved to the upright. >> what you think that is. >> i think a lot of it has to do with california democrats being in charge of everything here and failing many californians mother

was safety what we saw all 58 counties proposition. >> she talk no preposition 36 which was a pushback prop 47 and property six something that was supposed by the top statewide democrats and opposed the governor posed by the speaking by the senate president and if you democratic mayors, then realized it would be badly brady most and yet it by 70 plus percent entire state. >> not only did the democrats give them a lot of reasons but the republican started to show up things that i wanted to focus on my chairmanship seated entire communities to the democratic party my community is not thriving because of policies and by any milestone you look up, better jobs, better education

for our children getting none of it is short these communities make people feel like they were welcome and a party to the point i can you talk about nationwide in terms of the ships were sing and graphics that you notice with you like them or not, in terms from. >> they are false rates and very important for everyone to understand this election he ran a good campaign in each of the get up to about this put it into a private operation that you understood registered sink didn't company registered dignified more republicans in this election he won by 2 million votes and he increased about five $3m votes that harris declining about the biden cut by 6 million guarantee that three really did not come from the 6 million came from new republicans voting in the

6 million disenchanted just publicans and independence him, but also invited more specifically harris. so all of the percent about is distorted because is based on election truffles. and so they are identifying if all the democratic votes dropped off his head very heavily black goes and very heavily presented she was getting those went up in comparison to be the other side nobody got in 2020. >> but as you focus women's issues this was supposed be the second race party abortion think the drove turnout and we sought and had driven turnout midterms roe v. wade. >> we saw the largest gender gap

ever out what happened is actually the gender gap small cycle which was really surprising to me that it was you in previous elections biden hillary and so you know, i think trump will look, when you look at the difference between men and women, the biggest gender gap is over those with the voters we talked more young voters another panels to back giving disparity between young women and young men working as you look about trump basically matters that is not going to be for national abortion been living in up to the states and that's how quelled what we saw. in 2022, and he didn't suffered all the more conservative

evangelical voters supported new waiver it all season the gender gap did not could've been a couple of election when it meant different back to who voted squinting as well figure out the 6 million to think about before i did time this $3m more than he got to the vote lesson with the sun will distort all of the figures and i saw no indication of the polling is you not still voting about maybe state home increase about other women. >> and he increased among men significant especially noncollege educated men. >> this question percent think about barack obama returning i was here and democrats with the cool kids. as a party wanted to hang out

with and talking with cool. bless him right our neighbors who could even the obama group is a thing and when the heck happened and how did the republicans how to trump become the coquette. >> harris had a chance numbers of month-long series any longer she was up polls in the campaign is a media tour the talked about you know she was always kind of backup gently decision she may not have younger voters were looking for something, anything daylight between turn biden i think was just questionable for the actions able to break away on any of the key issues even if it wasn't a significant right

even if his rhetorical, she was unwilling to do it a lot of the voters saw that dispirited by drop off in the activity align from you know the height of the summer to wear the campaign ended up and you know they gave a chance and that really give her a look. >> the people voted providing four years ago not because they thought that he was a progressive and is policy author his presidency have moved far to the left is what they were doing the reason why she couldn't distance herself is because this question whether policy versus his. >> they also thought it would be a bridge right did not turnout this case either. >> and puts her in word says she disagrees with policy is white in the listen the right and that you're ready probably have some

challenges bring a woman of color reviewed respected in this administration and less until i just be put in there for different reasons and doesn't make you we find every issue major points and nobody cared did not listen. >> but again was it her fault. >> she could've done to civil things that we change things when she could've said, i did what anybody could do and what mike pence student, i supported the president and his policies when is i'm not confronted with that mike pence was, was being asked by the president to do something illegal that would take the press often attention and not focus on what she just set up where she could've said, united states senator from california to be the issues from california view whenever for use being vice president i see it now is a national view neither some things that i would

probably do differently both would've been so much better answers than no or learned right was vice president when cross-country this incredible opportunity some my perspective change. >> with the biden white house did not give her an opportunity at all to guess the question, did joe biden quietly privately, give her space to go after him i don't know, maybe you know if there was any know you going to have to hit me on this go for it you know was there any of that going on. >> sure he had one strike. >> in the first place with the manufacturer,. >> in early on, she decided mentioned earlier, when you decide to hurt the entire campaign structure those folks were running and then you supplement it with a few other people coming set yourself up the path to make that decision fairly early that was not a crew was you know when the rate provided necessarily or do

anything approaching kind of throwing him under the bus which might've needed to be done to break away and the numbers were very bad at that placement 11 respected biden is a i right. >> and so in terms of california, because this was the area your expertise, lust potentially mean for the prospect of another democratic candidate from california or her pretty and it is a parting out a place where they think okay, when it is land of soup to nuts or whatever reason is whatever. [laughter] we don't want to go there to stay away from that or do you think there's prospect from her, for newsom california going forward. >> i think it depends upon the individual and i don't know that you look at the last from a particular stated but just to go to some of jessica's points, and company up when i have seen is there's a lot of folks out there

we seen with fire and they want government to do these basic things the idea that they can hold and that's a sort of thing that can harm a candidate coming out of the area. >> yes right pretty you think about that jessica, going forward. as we have not had a statewide republican land, since 2006 despite all of the problems you articulated is leading into trump are more moderate think like caruso for now is with the democrats, but you know, and maybe back off in terms of it or how do you think about it. >> i think of it in exciting terms that i would love to see gavin newsom run for president pretty i would talk about it

every single day predict and i would love to continue to shine light on i think we do need certainly moving in the right direction, so that maybe, i think ready turning point i don't know yet if you like so many catastrophic and larger failures have happen here in california i don't think the californians have gotten to the point yet predict think of what is really going to take as a big leader that can come in on the republican ticket do that. >> right the last one is arnold schwarzenegger obviously was larger-than-life in every way possible and he broke through so many different modes. >> will yes and again i want to go back to our country is in deep trouble is that one party or the other is the country isn't deep trouble trouble. one of the things that happened

three decades of doing nothing but focusing on negative campaigns, is trust in every one of the institutions in this country is an all-time low except the military used to be military and police six years ago now it's only the military this very high some of you look at big business and government and the small business unions in healthcare, media religion. >> always in the bottom. >> well they're all at an all-time low and the problem like that it does manner voters the very cynical and the problem is cynical voters is cynical voters are very susceptible to demagoguery weathers demagoguery on social media, or on cable news demagoguery form are candidates and we do not start to do something to build trust in our country, the institution about will never build trust in either side. >> were the reason why there's been so many negative campaigns

is because it works the same reason why there's so much negative news on the news tonight because because when we do positive news, nobody watches it. >> no attempts, and i'm always upset my friends and then media might response to that is so does the positive and have to try it once in a while and i built an entire career running positive campaigns and i watch people who want to mentally one of the best candidates i ever had, james langford, who actually some positive, to be able to together coalition, democrats and republicans to get an issue for the court and then you have donald trump who is such a serious issue, why see killington now so i can campaign on in a month later read vs on the kind of thing and you can't say the kind of thing that's how you get over it positive works specially when he comes to you know the biggest problems we've

had from one of the other problems, hit was by newt gingrich when he took the putting down from five days a week three days a week numbers of congress, they stopped bringing their families to washington and he's doing my kids were growing up, coached basketball and baseball there's always a congressman from the democrat side and the republican side, sitting the bleachers, cheering for their kids come they do not do that anymore, it either families they do not do anything, to actually get to know each other so what is the positive message back if you were running when right now what is that message had a simple. >> the positive messages be for the things you for and begin rebuild trust in our institutions, and look, populism is always based on being gets been a big upper limits and religion, big media and business back in the early days some abuse always want to be, against

more the banks that the other side and that was the beginning of negative campaigning but we used to be able to run the campaign and running campaigns against negative campaigns, with you there running a negative campaign issue account any more pretty. >> i think it is a very in terms of where it goes for trump and you can see, sort of two competing well not only for the different states democrats are going to look to win but it just kind of events this sort of over all themes in the campaign and the democrats basically a fighter type campaign that way or will be closer to 2020 and bite and i think i-uppercase-letter switches somebody is going to come into the country basically say when bring you guys together and i think that it could go either way. sue happily seemed to me in 2022, gavin newsom of the joe

biden was not going to run. and if you watch the activities in which you and i both did closely, he was talking about finding where the heck are the democratic party when the roe v. wade went down and where is the party fighting back in all of his language online was all about finding because he thought your point out, that you've got to get to the democratic base wants to see a fighter that's how he was going to differentiate himself from the old by skype who got over essentially prayed and then rested just long enough, provided to stay in the race that newsom box out and so he know how divided diseases vestments of that way harris doesn't get in there that way he could not box him out but it seemed like that was the calculus of it predict one aspect of elated maybes trying to do that again right now pretty. >> yes, the problem for the democrats now as a fighting posture is you know where a lot

of them being told there the opposition party there are so that's what they should do. no with addictive i don't is very important separate subset which is do they focus on the voters that didn't care a lot about, firing attorneys dc and is something that some of them thinking about really by might be very important for the future of democracy would not be something really happening. then, where do they go from there and i think now and then at the same time, suite folks frankly not gotten as much coverage of the moment. neutralizing michigan fighter because their elected officials on problems in their own states now pretty so help normally go out there when they're supposed be doing the job at home people are looking for them the current job having to focus on that. >> disabilities in all government. >> and also more such a sophisticated understand trump strategy right now that is to all the executive orders knowing

that a good deal of them will go down to the courts pretty new benefits from both. first of all he passes them so go through and then he could turn over the course coming say see is one of the things where i get and what you think is different smart media strategy that the democrats can learn from what trump had done well. >> will i think you see trump right now. in the mean, what is the media stop in the me today i'm thinking i'm sure hearing from you wouldn't even talk about. >> while we are covering the inauguration, 200 executive orders been about where coming will yes. [inaudible]. >> and i think that's added to the trump strategy right now predict so there is not one thing in the spotlight does not

turn 19 like the crypto, you know, or where do you even start and this very difficult for the media. >> will in terms of the democrats using the media or social media, will getting the message out maybe in the media sample, i mean, i think it is like well what date did not work last time and let's not well washing repeat on it right and so did the democrats who the message on the campaign is all about the fight and truck trump trump and that's not what people people really cared about the groceries another try all come another felony counts none of that. and so, they care about addresses them so democrats will whether doing to help people in the confidence factor that we

talked about. >> and goes back to a major campaign and everything jane said earlier, is about campaigning on what you are for, not campaigning on what your guests that's how you begin building and rebuilding because 65 percent of the country is the country yes 65 percent printed the problem is that 35 percent residing of the two primaries pretty subletting that define you who you are supporting start looking the country. >> just got another something james talk about is maybe picking which things to focus on for you now come as party chairman, we have 200 executive orders and you gotta pick and choose which want to focus on, what you focus on right now is the message for this thing people running it. >> will in california, will continue to focus on california things that is because that is where we are fighting our success and when we are talking to people about the gas prices were talking about never going through this recovery and rebuilding situation here and for the last several years we

been able to talk about crime los angeles county decided to vote out there district attorney because he was liberal policies the california democrat said champion. we will continue to focus on california things pretty and utilize president trump and the excitement in the enthusiasm he brings to certain parts of our state. >> in terms of willing know you're just trying to weigh in on the last issue in terms of messaging when the big issues going forward. >> yes boy think a look at the closely how the democrats have an messaging around the cabinet appointees and hearings pretty and heavy focus is still on the characterizations that these companies have muscle or an emphasis on the qualifications and less of an emphasis on basically whether they could do the job and more on who these people are in the background and is just not worked really did

not work with trump and is now not working clearly in the votes you don't have the most you can still use that opportunity to try to sort of make gains on the site so far that, has not happened it now, on the directive and there's a bunch of spinning in there and democrats i think a sort of collected a little bit there talking more about that specific programs might have been something like jumpstarted the party in some ways. the start of focus on things people are thinking about but he had not having up to that. >> i'm clear he said because you obviously saw a part of the party before trump to understand the old-school grand old party and there are a lot of people you work closely with the probably were huge fans privately now supported him publicly. have you noticed that they changed it all in the last few years, this time around the maybe seeing him differently and what is a private conversation. >> he goes back to a variety of

things but it goes back to those primary voters. no matter where they may be, in terms of where they want to be, in terms of issues, they know they have to pass the test those primary voters we have some three interesting survey questions asked him to first well which are member of congress to provide a value no solutions pretty 71 percent said yes. nasa same group of people you want your member of congress to compromise their values in order to get find common ground and find solutions to your problem and 75 percent, that same group of 71 percent said yes pretty no one thing that i've always said to my clients, we voted sometimes the victory of opinions and they hate the heck out of it as you pointed out to them. but when we ask of course the choice, 27 percent voted that i

want to fight of the values not over the solutions 67 percent said, compromise and the valleys and define common ground to find solutions to our problem pretty and it's interesting the 27 percent makes up who is footing the primaries. we need to stop letting primary voters dictate to us the moment type of candidates we have read if we do not do that in the way to answer that is to start putting in primaries, and the general elections emphasize the morning and primaries. so that the nominees that you have to go for general election represents where you really are. what you really want. >> forgive my ignorance because i don't know the answer to the center langford using a primary challenge. >> probably smacks ago so let's go into this example because i think it's interesting so senator langford we talked about the guy behind us bipartisan abrasion bill center langford is a very conservative republican and very conservative state of

oklahoma a lot of trump people were very mad at him for trying to do a deal with the democrats and he now faces potentially a primary challenge and what is his electives and was your advice. >> for the situation because you have a real-world examples met the biggest mistake is been me talking about the border problem which is eight real problem pretty in an immigration problem and it does not have immigration problem the policies in this country haven't broken for 40 years and the reason why we have the border problem is we do not have enough people coming in legally we only allow 1.2 million a year is not matching what we need for our economy we need to have a system to bring in people really want to be a part of this country pretty just wanted take advantage of the jobs that are here. the worst thing that happened in the last two years as they were beginning to move towards real discussion on fixing immigration and all of a sudden the border became the issue in come by at

the same issue and they are two separate issues rated and if the democrats want to know something to do here, is only do fix the border problem then is the time started going after let's fix immigration in the country. >> but what is the message for langford is republican primary challenge of the bumper sticker. >> it will be exactly that likely has another one and say he was willing to step forward and give him some cover and that will help. >> running around it to the pointed couple of rapidfire questions in a moment q&a as well so sort of think about what you might want to ask. i like one word answers back so, one word to describe donald trump as president so far. >> i will go last. >> okay fax. >> loud. >> yes say predictable.

>> predictable this interesting see say nothing that he sent we told you everything promises made missus capp. >> well between last night after the plane crash was something that he does more than a decade and he's been sitting there and spelling up whatever's on the news on tv doing as president and out of office the same thing and you could reason that sweet post before you even saw it. >> no another 101 word to describe the democratic party right now. >> perfect. [laughter] [laughter] >> confused. >> in the wilderness. >> will that was more than one word. >> will i agree with a confused of mac. [laughter] >> who is most likely to be the democratic party nominee in 2028.

>> chris you go first. >> i'm sitting that one out sue met shapira. >> i would agree with that sue met josh shapira governor of pennsylvania. >> i actually think the one as the other the potential is the governor of kentucky, really really really good is very popular and very republican state that would on paper somebody that would be appealing certainly. >> west morris. >> governor marilyn. >> no mind but yes sue met will let me just say this, was the leader of the democratic party right now. >> who's the face of the democratic party. >> mr. nobody. >> nobody okay hakeem jeffries the democratic leaders know, nobody thinks there is a leader, that's a problem so i guess we've seen this in the past. you think of an example that you

think about 2005, when george w. bush one republicans had control of everything in two years later, nancy pelosi takes over as figure two years after that barack obama right comes in and huge democratic majority in the senate and in the house of sometimes it can change pretty quickly. and thoughts any questions here yes. >> we doing microphones are not. >> what is your name. >> steve cohen. >> hi how are you. >> i want to talk about. [inaudible]. >> steve cohen asking question about education and go-ahead. >> i want to talk about we just met out the students have not recovered from the pandemic 34 years ago can really and we aren't educating our kids to figure out how to deal with

social media to become of the elephant in the room right now despite everything i said the social media when the selection we have the biggest of the two biggest roles are trump musk the dominating social media and we as democrats cannot fight back. everybody the whole day, that's how to do the. >> and you think about you know biden in his final speech, he talked about over guarding by and a lot of republicans were's don't get in the new see the inauguration the richest people in world are all tech right there in front. but you think about it, they begin to figure what you think about what they used to be advantage to the democrats and barack obama was thought of is that facebook collection that he use that so effectively and noah seems to have flipped and does anybody want to weigh in on

this. >> well he likes to call himself the great communicator. and omar for the great communicator ronald reagan, had i watched him when trump wasn't talk about helping he won this election by the biggest victory in 50 years, he needs to remember reagan who won 49 states and 550 and electoral vote. i used to brief him once a month when i was congressional committee national campaign director read i grew up with a speech impediment. walk-in every month i did for two years that i had 30 minutes that i was scared to death. my speech impediment is only 30 something sad he would take five minutes or ten minutes or 20 minutes and talk to me and tell jokes and he had a sense of feeling what i had called down and then he said, okay what you

have to tell me any never once said that this is a waste of my time. your limited tenders but i saw that sign of a man who truly had truly understood people believe you may disagree with the policies that he had, but he understood people played into that. >> would even have a home in the current republican party that was a different area in different media universe. >> he does because i'm still the republican party. it is the result of everything happen since the '90s. newt gingrich and the party is driven by the extremes that come about parties. >> to his question will this was a good question if anybody was to jumping on this in terms winning over social media which is the main way that everybody's experiencing information. >> there is no media literacy of students these days do not

understand the difference between getting shown up in their feed and an opinion column in the newspaper] is just all their hard they did not understand how to check the sources, social meeting of there's no editor. everything is getting through there's no time to check and see where that comes from. you know, and they see it at any of the 823 -year-old at book about i see it with virgil semi stuffed nothing as you see it and she said social media with us the answer right that is the answer i saw in social media. welp where is it from on social media cement will look well so make something site. >> let's figure out what is coming from right so we are just not doing good enough job. teaching our young people had a look of the how to figure out

through all of the garbage that they are getting an incident dictate problem that is sitting there scrolling. >> that's the problem of the paris of the society. >> will both in and my 15 -year-old response to be a after the election, is only four more years is okay pretty informed statement printed and seems to me that meat might have media literacy classes and is justice importance as physics or chemistry or all of the rest of it and even calculus. all right. >> other questions and we can spend our just doing question there. >> 1012th, connie mulberry bring in the microphone and please introduce yourself. >> sandy lifelong democrat. regarding the extreme controlling the parties and primary being the problem this time i was here, i think you were here.

somebody was talking about reform the primaries and do you remember nick something from colorado so what about informing primaries and the thing i most about is ranked choice voting what about that. >> things in experiments going on that pretty and again the real issue is the other things are aggravating it. in the super pacs are aggravating it because think their only job is to run negative campaigns printed at the primary voters in the party having less money today, and more because they took it away from them under and cleaning up dark money in effect they created the worse avenue money so i remember back in the late '80s and early 90s, our strategy was to look from the very beginning the campaign. nothing primary in the general election but where do we need to

be to get 50 percent plus one vote in on the primary, but in the general election and now the question is not even come up until after the primaries open. >> we have open primaries here in california which is not true in every state and i'm sure you thousand this and how it works so basically they only primary that is closes the presidential primary and that is only open to republicans and the press open up there primary to everybody every other primary is open to it called to talk to system or anybody whether you're republican or democrat, can vote for anybody that talked to advance to be democrat or republican and how do you think is working. >> not great. i thought behind it when top 14 was passed was to get to your point more centric candidates are not changing the electorate's coming it is the same people voting in the primary. because are still getting the

extremes usually about parties which wound up sometimes an incredibly deep district or incredibly deep red district and you will get to candidates about party. sometimes coming will get moderate democrat in that they go through tsa they go up to sacramento and they vote with the party line and everything. and really nothing get salt anyway. sue met but if you asked about the rank order, which alaska went to, the interesting thing about that process is that when you had a bunch of candidates running and going to talk to will front against each other, when he did away from this negative campaigning because they did not want to be campaigning. >> you have to be like you wanted to make sure you were not running in a negative campaign. >> the rank choice, i know is that you rank your choice

instead of just voting for a as say that i like is the best but i like just to second best and you know and then people are illuminated instead having as many coming it all gets figured out somehow. >> there's a great documentary up that i saw the condiments ago majority rules that right voting in alaska you want to check it out soon i need to students with a question yes. >> yes, my name is lawrence currently a senior studying international relations. and i just want to first pushback on the notion this would like generation see and the youth are uninformed and now certainly, i've seen so my peers that are less informed. and i think there's some truth in the idea probably could've bit more media literacy for my generation release from my personal experience i think that

it is more in us of generation be in the young people being less informed and more the idea that lost lost trust in her legacy media and remain institutions, whether it be the main what we call the right to main street media we began to see that it feels like so my peers and it honestly me to come i feel like we have lost trust and well sort of lost the belief that a restitution will actually speak up for us what his rights were starting to gravitate towards social media and alternative outlets in pot casters etc. which trump used to great extent to win the votes of young straight males who have lost sort of felt disillusioned left out of the democratic party

and the liberal gen z mainstream. so that being said, how does the legacy institutions for those of you on stage, how respective the stakeholders and organizations you represent atticus try to reach out to generation z because of the left, you know many young people especially here at usc, no palestinian protesters and a lot of anger gives the democratic party not being more pro- palestinian many young males and young you know male friends who dissolution by the party and when trump was like masculinity is back. >> twenty is your question i want to ask you a question, where do you get your new. >> i get my news from my still

watch a lot of media and a big fan of politico just because. [laughter] [laughter] >> yes. [applause] [applause] >> geographic steam. >> and what would for you would make you trust you see media more. >> will i think the legacy media really started not just focusing on like made headlines like the main issues in america but also like delve deeper into investigative piece of reporting on you know perhaps a different scandals different religious poking at the deeper problems that often times people just want to dance around our use like for a political term. >> are willing to pay for that. >> oh yes pretty i favor the la times and wall street journal. >> way to go because that is part of the issue and thank you and chris is a political right. >> let me say, that i do think that there is obviously, you

believe in these things obviously up sort of tell people why these various institutions are important, they actually mean so literacy piece but i also think from the perspective of media and i have seen a huge backlash be covid-19 or might be everything says that there is just a real distrust with the institutions but this expert predict think young people in particular like what is this person really know and are they really the expert and they say the seller so much thanks and putting with the experts are saying at a given time they see so that not all of it some of it clearly proven wrong and fairly short period of time now i think is undermining of the trust they have a backfiring that sling so much ice folks racine has authority. >> do you think about it from a business strategy and you're

hoping the run political business strategy and attracting many other people back here and getting them. >> will i think not to sound too much like a homework here but think they do a lot of that type of reporting when you have you know day-to-day political reporting we have. deep policy reporting. the relies on really what is going on. really trying to incorporate all size of the singtel are taking it on and so i mean come there is a lot of things to sort through and of course saw the good stuff out there and i think link is the message of israel side of her own outlets if you do see things that you think are effective, i was you think are doing well. you have to pay for it that's the bottom line. >> investigative reporting is expensive. into my point, i speak on behalf of what i'm trying to do. is to be aware that people may

not come to you where you want them to come he would have to go where they are as was spent a lot of time putting together instagram reels and tiktok's and other things the realizing that cannot be just live in the news it the whole thing. some people say well there's like different in places you can communicate with different people i think that legacy needs to get out the headspace us do everything like it's 1985's are communicating with people like is 2025 come and go to people and also be more conversational pretty to the point about experts, people want to be lectured at the one him conversation with people that want to learn be included as of that old school model i think just does not work anymore. >> the lack of trust is something they'll have it is never the book but democratic

poster and we had been asking survey question about our youth what do you believe there you may be the future in a more civil future the numbers really 50 percent, and only use strong, millennial's socal negative see of generation this feeling some of that negativity that is there isn't thing in the book is when you finally got to last chapter on hope, did interviews with young people whether they were college educated not college-educated by race and gender from the all said the same thing. i will respect others if they respect me first were living in a society today nobody respects anyone else and so they're not living for that and finally the conclusion we came to the needed people like for me, and ronald reagan or john mccain, who

showed me real respect for others. we do not have that today and politicians are not showing to each other. so who will lead young people to be in the right position civility, respect and dealing with issues and respectful way we find common ground so that it can actually get solutions for problems this country's mecca one of that because with the political future is all about us what you are talking about this idea of being here in the fact you all are here, supporting civil discussion learning from people of different parties, we need more of this. so think you all for being here and thank you for listening to us. [applause] [applause] >> we look forward to talking with you more at lunch we have demographic changes. this two-part conversation runs just over two hours.