do you have something to say to the pope who is in the hospital? president macron: [indiscernible] we wish him recovery. >> -- elon musk, sir? >> more with president trump and french president afternoon as their white house visit continues. in a few minutes, the two leaders will meet in the oval office and will have that for you soon here on c-span three. a little bit later, a joint news conference which is set to begin at 2:00 p.m. eastern. >> paul dance is back at our desk. the last time you were here was june of 2024 and you were serving as the director of project 2025, the presidential transition effort by the heritage foundation.

can you walk us through what happened with you and with project women 25 in the months since then? >> project women 25 was a 2.5 year effort we started in the spring of 2022. it was really a coming together of citizens all over the country. we ultimately became 110 groups all focused on helping the next conservative president ready to hit the ground running on day one. so what has happened, you know, we got a lot of work done and made a contribution and we are very happy to see that these ideas have entered the bloodstream and what president trump his team is accomplishing right now is miraculous. i stepped down from the project at the end of summer 2024 but you know, what is going on, we basically wrapped our work up by then. i should say i no longer work with heritage foundation so the ideas today are my own. but it has been fantastic to

watch president trump really move like greased lightning right now. >> how much of project on a 25 is evident in today being the first month of the trump administration -- the second trump administration? >> this is all donald trump. if a man did not get up and say fight, fight, fight, none of this would be happening so it is relieve the indomitable spirit of one man but that is the essence of leadership. many of the ideas we brought in project 2025 are common sense. they are ultimately about bringing people back into our government. it is a government of, by come and for the people. that was the central postulate of project and a 25, that we needed to deconstruct this unaccountable administrative state. >> how do you deconstruct it? >> you start by making it transparent and you have to show the rest of the country what has been actually happening here in washington and that is part of the genius of donald trump

working with new folks like elon musk to really bring to the fore what we have all kind of suspected but you know, what is being unearthed now is earth shattering, really. and we are seeing we have a $2 trillion structural deficit in this country, going on $50 trillion of debt. anybody who claims that the status quo -- defense the status quo and says this thing is working is either in on it were completely confused. >> i guess the question is is what we are seeing now project on a 25 in action? once it is common there's a lot of commonality in the sense that what we put forward were a lot of trump ideas from term one. so i think what you are seeing is aspirational hopes as well, things that people -- i served in term one. things i hoped could have been done but we did not quite have the political will to do it yet. we had a democratic congress at

the latter half there. the house. and you know, these were ideas in the main that have percolated through the conservative movement and really just center-right for decades. >> are my people what was in project on a 25. was a department of government efficiency in project 2025? >> the whole thing was about efficiency. it wasn't per se a department, but the idea with project when a 25 was that the conservatives had to be ready to help the next president govern. you know, particularly the independent streak we all have in us, conservatives have never come together as a group and it was really important that we put aside the differences and support the next president so what we did with standing up project 2025 was a first of its kind, really looking at our friends on the left, looking at how they always get ready, and saying to the entire country, be

ready, be prepared, and you know, to the extent that there is a reflection of project 2025 and what is being done to president trump now, it is that his team is ready to roll and they really wanted to be prepared to hit the ground day one. >> what do you think the reputation of project 2025 was by the end of the 2024 election? >> i think the ideas of project 2025 and what you see now are extremely popular at base. what the democrats had done was probably one of the great electoral failures of all time and that was they put $300 million reportedly into castigating project 2025 with a two-part misinformation play. one, that it had anything to do with president trump, and two, that the so-called ideas were reflected into a 25. at the end of the day, it just showed a great contempt for their own base and it ultimately, you know, it is the law of unintended consequences. what you are seeing now is

project 2025, you know, on a whole other plane, other order of 19. >> president trump felt the need to respond to his connection to project 2025 during the election. this is about 30 seconds during a campaign stop in july. pres. trump: like some on the right, severe right, came up with this project 2025 and i don't even know. i mean, some of them, i know who they are, but they are very, very conservative, just like -- they are sort of the opposite of the radical left. you have the radical left and the radical right and they come up with this project. i don't know what it is. he is involved in project -- and then they read some of the things and they are extreme. i mean, they are seriously extreme, but i don't know anything about it. i don't want to know anything about it. >> extreme, came up by the radical right question regarding know anything about it.

what was your estimation of his comments? >> there is no person on earth who has been more attached by fake news and president trump so he has much leeway. i mean, look, he's a genius of politics and what he said is true. he did not have anything to do with this. you know, the left had taken a lot of effort to miss frame project in a 25. at base, you know, i think he is also mid statement subsequent to that saying many of the ideas are very good. some of the bad ideas are actually not even in project 2025. they are grafted on. for example, the ivf contingent. there is not a word about ivs but the democrats and their allies spent millions of dollars trying to say project and a 25 was going to stop ivf. fake news. >> was shutting down or folding in usaid into the state department, was that -- did that come out of project 2025? >> project 2025 does a very good

treatment on usaid and really going at the heart of how this operation has been running counter to u.s. foreign interests for decades now. it is a sieve for unaccountable money. what they have done is really take it to another level. it certainly flagged the issue and talked about bringing it under the ages of the state department. >> there will be a vote today on linda mcmahon for education secretary, to move her nomination out of committee to the full senate. but a lot of discussion in her nomination hearing about reductions to the department of education. democrats are concerned about shutting down the department of education. what does project on a 25 say about the department of education? >> soon to p secretary mcmahon is one of the dynamic figures of modern life. she is extremely accomplished. -- and actually accomplished

businesswoman and former cabinet secretary so i fully commend what she is going to do. you know, with the department of education, the heritage foundation put out the mandate for leadership in 1980 for president reagan and at that stage, four years into it, the book was already calling for the abolition of the department. i think what we have unfortunately seen -- the book was a mandate for leadership, circa 1980. this was published by the heritage foundation. this was the original mandate for leadership so fast forward 40 years later, we are making the same appeal. i -- look, i went to public schools, k-12. i went on to m.i.t., undergrad, and graduate degrees at m.i.t. and the university of virginia. my mom was a publicly teacher and my mother-in-law as a public pool teacher. you are not going to find someone who more believes in the public school system but i really feel it is broken. i have four kids and you know, we are now having to homeschool two of them because, you know, this great system that -- i

would not be where i am today were it not for public school teachers. i saw so much dedication from my mother during this work but the system is not working. it needs to be put back in the control of states and localities in the federal mandate needs to kind of, you know, relax and be much more accountable to the parents. host: what is your role today? guest: right now, i am on the outside. i am very supportive of the work they are doing. every day, we wake up, it is christmas morning. i am down in south carolina. i am apparent citizen of south carolina and i am happy to say that there is a great buoyancy among i think just regular everyday americans that president trump is delivering on the promises. trump is an iconoclast. and then when he gets into this tremendous kind of tagteam duo with elon musk, cutting through in a way that the deep state

never really saw. i think it is just exciting. every day brings a new revelation. >> would you like to go back into the administration if offered? weiss is always my honor to serve president trump and the administration. >> what did he do in the first term? guest: --you do in the first term? guest: i first started at hud. i was in new york attorney and white shoe law firms so i had not known washington, how to navigate it. host: what is a white shoe law firm? guest: the guys who built $2000 an hour and many of them are now suing the trump admonition but they are essentially high-end corporate firms. they work for a lot of corporate america, defending them, you know, going through regulations. there is a big mass of them here on k-3. that is not to say that these are some of the most talented lawyers but they are expensive and that is where i grew up, in new york. you come out of law school, you

have a tremendous debt, you don't have much of a choice be it i did not come from means myself so i basically kind of followed that trajectory. that said, you know, it took me two years to get into the trump administration and i started at hud in the community planning and development under dr. carson . it was an honor to serve. i got a quick taste of bureaucracy and the stifling of dr. carson and president trump homelessness initiatives and then i moved on to the office of personnel -- personnel management where i was white house liaison and then chief of staff. host: explain who russ is entity work with him? --is an did you work with him? guest: he was the former director of omb and now he is confirmed to be director again. host: office of management and budget.

guest: that is an office that works out of the office of the executive -- executive office of the president, and they are charged essentially as, you know, putting a break on the agencies and governing them with respect to the money flow. so he comes from an entire background on the hill and then later on at heritage and really has one of the few all-encompassing views so i am very excited about the work he's going to do. he has in veined himself against the deep state and i think that for a number of us, this really is kind of a central mission in our life, to return government to the people, to let us have a handle again on this monolithic government. host: paul dance with us, taking your phone call and it is phone lines as usual.

plenty of calls for you already. jack is up first out of massachusetts. republican nine. you are all with paul dance. jackie. what is your question or comment, jack? >> i was wondering how it would impact new england. i am in the northeastern region. host: how does project 2025 -- guest: it's all about president trump and his team right now. my family actually -- my mom was the youngest of eight. workers from rhode island. i am a quincy mass native, born there. i have seen part of -- i went to m.i.t.. part of why i got involved in this is seeing the degradation of american industry and i do not think -- few areas in the country felted as rough as new

england. my uncles all went off and fought the war in world war ii and came back only to see the shipyards close down and essentially their livelihoods taken so when president trump talks about rebuilding america, that is all of america and i really think new england is going to be well poised to really get some of the benefit here. going back to work and being proud to be an american. i really think that there is so much things to offer the northeast, particularly with the seed of education being up there. but really, a great working class of americans that helped build this country that are going to be called upon to help rebuild it. host: emelia is a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. i just wanted to make an observation. during the campaign, president

trump said he had nothing to do or knew anything about project 2025. but the first thing is to show you how misleading and deceptive he is, and the one thing that this project set out to do is disassemble the regulatory state. this is the state that gave rise to the middle class and people don't do their research. i heard this morning several people call and mention critical thinking skills. you know, they are planning to destroy. they are taking away your medicare, social security, because they want to privatize everything. they have us fighting against each other but they are planning for the rich people to take over this country. people, please wake up. stay out of fox news and just try to do research with other resources because when the congress goes next week and they are trying to take the money, $2 trillion, out of our entitlement

programs. our social security, our medicare, and this is what they want to destroy. one final mention. elon musk is nothing but a crook. this man, he did not start tesla. two engineers started tesla. he invested some money and then turned around and fired the two guys. this is nothing but deception. host: that is a million georgia. guest: respectfully, she's right that the federal government and the united states brought the middle class -- i am the beneficiary of that, coming from working class stock. but what has happened here is really a conversion of the federal government over the last 15 y a longer over the progressive era. look, we have $50 trillion approaching in a national debt and to trillion dollars structural deficit. that cost is paid to the middle

class and then when you have a right and regime that is basically opening the borders and flooding it, that is why the middle-class is stagnating. we bring in people and put them on the dole and at the same time, you are charging the interest to the americans. this is why a thirtysomething cannot even afford a house and people are seeing these astronomical costs not only in fuel but also car insurance and the like. this is the freight. it's being paid and why is it? because no one has ever checked this thing and that is not fair. you know who checked it? clinton and gore, 40 years ago. a guy named al gore was sitting in the seat like myself, talking about a national partnership to reinvent government and make it more efficient so these are not republican ideas. they are not democrat ideas. they are american ideas and everything overtime needs to be reformed and rebuilt and that is really what i think somebody

like you unless, who is a genus of our age, he is an edison like figure. he may not have invented it but he took it to the level. he realized he is the producer and that is the sort of leader that from private industry can really show dynamic change. he makes the pie bigger for all of us. >> the national debt, $36.5 trillion other some projections say that $50 trillion figure, not too far in the two distant future. to the caller's other point, back to project 2025, did it call for privatizing social security and medicare? guest: funny thing about being the former director, i get quizzed on 900 pages of the book. you know, the thing is, project 2025 did not even address social security. that is not even a chapter about it so all the project 2025 wants to do about social security -- the essence of fake news. but you know, really, at this

point, look at trump 47, that agenda, and certainly, the revelations coming out of -- that i read a couple of days ago about potentially trillions of dollars being sent overseas or to dead people. it will be very interesting to see where this money trail goes. host: do you think elon musk can find $2 trillion in savings and the federal government? guest: the president is confident he will find $1 trillion. if you just do the math on something, $7 trillion, finding $1 trillion is about 15%. who in our own household budgets couldn't trim off 15%? i know i probably could if i really sat down and did it but what they are doing here is also bringing in the next advent which is, you know, artificial intelligence, i believe, in some degree, but taking control of this entire system and reducing it to answers within minutes.

that is a computing power that was never really able to realize and i think the growth of this behemoth government took advantage of it. nobody could really track the money and no one could actually see who it ultimately went to and how it was spent but now that formation is capable of being assembled within minutes and i think that that is one of the great promises of this age. host: fort lauderdale, florida, this is mark, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i am just an average schmo out in the world so i probably will not be all that eloquent, nearly as eloquent as your guest, considering this is his business, talking. but the fact of the matter is he is an outright liar. you asked them several times about project 2025. you played a clip about trump, saying he doesn't know a single thing about 2025, and here we are in the midst of project 2025

started to run our country. everything they have been doing since trump came in was project 2025. when asked about the reasons for the start of 2025, he said it's because democrats do the same kind of thing and we did not want to be left behind. your guy has been well educated, obviously. he spent a lot of time talking and expressing his viewpoints, obviously, but the fact of the matter is he is so much like the rest of the conservative movement, he said he's not a republican so that's a conservative. now, thanks to trump, they lied whenever it suits their needs, whenever it suits their purposes. host: let me give paul vance a chance to respond. guest: respectfully to the collar, i don't consider myself a liar at all but you know, the essence is that project on the 25 was created outside of president trump. certainly, it became a big thing

and it was projected into the media so for example, the book was downloaded 15 million times or maybe more. these ideas enter the bloodstream. many of which president trump's to start with. so it's really hard to decipher, you know, what is product on a 25 and what is president trump? the only thing that is relevant now is president trump. but you know, with respect to -- host: do you think it is relevant that so many of the people who wrote various chapters of project 2025 have gone into the second trump administration? you are not there but we talked about others. guest: it is actually part of what we have here. when we started project 2025, we went to some of the most talented people in trump term one and these were all volunteers, real patriots who took time away from their families on weekends to sit down and record what they would like to see four years from now so you know, i do not find it

strange at all that president trump would turn around and ask back a number of these folks that is to say that, you know, conservatives are greatly outnumbered when it comes to governments. here in washington, you have to understand the federal government votes 95% democrat. the bureaucracy. there's 2.2 million federal workers. the president appoints 4000. that is one to 500, ok? of those one, many of those folks who did not even get into the position the last time so project 2025 was really about nurturing people to come in and take that one in 500 spot and when they got the spot, that they would know what to do. host: are you saying the other 490 nine are liberals, democrats? guest: well, no. but i think you see, particularly here in washington where the mass of the federal government is that the voting tallies run upwards of 95% for

democrat candidate for president. you see donations from usaid bordering on 90% to 95% for one side so whether or not the people themselves -- you know, there's varying statistics. i think over time, the federal government has become much more to the left in terms of its workforce. and that is kind of the function of america demographically intensive cosmopolitan living in the cities versus kind of -- we all see the map of red versus blue. and you know, just for correction on the record, i am republican by all means. but conservative as well, but i think that i would like to put myself in that category of kind of pragmatist, common sense, you know, it trump ian, if you will come and that is really what i think -- i would not have been in politics if it were not for president trump. host: lancaster, ohio.

jenny, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i had a question about medicaid. i know the constitution. but i forgot a lot so i spent a year on relearning it and i think you are not going to understand the laws if you don't know the constitution and i think if people would know the constitution, they would relax and know what is going on. what is going on is really good. they are cutting costs. >> jenny, what in the constitution brings you comfort? caller: well, if you understand the amendments and if you understand -- you are not going to understand the laws if you don't understand the constitution. everything is based on the constitution. host: anything you want to add? guest: i commend the caller. the constitution is what has given t freedom and liberty and we are going on a to

hunt a 50 year birthday in a couple of years. it is time for a constitutional cleaning which is essentially what president trump has undertaken. we have three branches of government, the legislative, the executive, and the judicial. over the last 100 years, a fourth, unelected, unaccountable branch called the administer to state has grown up and it is really important at the caller points out that you understand president trump works in article two, in the executive branch, but the vesting of the power in article two, section one, clause one, is purely in a president, the executive power of the united states investing in a president, period, so what is happening now is really a constitutional re-anchoring back to these precepts that have ensured liberty for 250 years. host: in the early days, democratic numbers of congress will say that donald trump is trying to usurp their powers

under article one, controlling the purse strings, with some of his decisions, his efforts to claw back money that congress has appropriated for various projects, impound money. congress controls the purse strings and donald trump is trying to say where the money should go. guest: well, here, president trump is in charge of executing the law and fulfilling what congress has ordered. the flipside to that is you see here with the stacey abrams news and the epa, it's essentially a wholesale, i don't know, almost shifting of the money outside of government. $20 billion, and this is just one instance. it is very important that we reframe the political powers had over time, congress has unduly delegated its authority to this administrative state. they have not made regulations. they have not enforced taking

away bad regulations, and that growth has really stalled the economy. president trump, you know, as commander-in-chief, as chief executive officer, and as the chief legal officer that is the magistrate of the united states, he is in charge of the executive branch so this idea that there could be checks and balances from within the executive branch is an independent doj is a fallacious one and i think that that is one of the key things that president trump is reforming, the executive branch. host: this is the new york post headline but there's others. the epa administrator discovers $2 billion stashed away by biden administration for stacey abrams linked climate groups. guest: it is extraordinary. apparently, it's up to $20 billion, 10 groups or so.

the money was -- they saw president trump coming and six month ago, there was a lot of the government. hustled the money out the door and keep the democrat nest feathered for the last four years but the level, i don't think anybody can really contemplate. the facts really come to before. this is $2 billion being given to us, an organization that never received more than $100 so it is extraordinary. 1000 billion dollars is $1 trillion and that is where we start but certainly, when you go at these kind of wholesale -- i don't want to use the word fact but that is what it is appearing to be. we have to look and find this all over the united states government. i believe it exists. host: line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning.

glad to talk to you again. the thing i look at is common sense. i am not college-educated or nothing like that but i do have common sense. a man like trump -- about everything in the world and project 2025, they want the reach to get it all and the people, i worked on my life. i went in the military. i did everything that they said at the time and i was born in 1948. and at the time, i grew up, i done everything that they told me i needed to do that when i got old, i could relax and get my social security. mr. roosevelt. hoover about killed us. now, people don't think back on that. they don't think back about donald trump telling all these lies. he is not connected with them. he did not know of them. he lied about paying a born

star. he is a born liar and project 2025, all they do -- he could be at the education. host: give you a chance to respond. guest: i commend the caller for his life of work here he really built this country. i came from the same sort of folks. i aspired to be that same person. the caller should understand that a lot of the promise, his future was robbed from him by inflation and inflation is driven by excessive government spending. that is the democrats have -- they spent $300 billion in ukraine and we don't know the a sensible national interest -- someone has to pay for it. who pays for it? it is when he goes to the gas pump, when he goes to the pharmacy and has to pay for his

prescription drugs. all these costs end up somewhere and they get balanced on your backs. when this money starts being spent properly and much more efficiently, you will get the future you have always been promised. as far as president trump, i do not believe he is a liar one bit. i feel that he has been the sole victim of the greatest misinformation campaign from the second he came down the escalator to today. project on a 25 is a thing of the past. right now, focus on what president trump and his team are doing. it is extraordinary. host: project 2025 is a thing of the past? guest: there's elements of it and i should say the work was in the main completed and i believe it is a resource that the republic can always look at.

right now, the most important thing is what president trump and his team are doing. they are taking things i never could have dared to dream. my folks used to do quotes around the house and my mom -- she was what you would call -- she could do needlepoint knitting. i remember this young fellow. give what you have. it may be better than you dare to think. that is essentially how i think of project 2025. we brought into the bloodstream that change was needed. it is either us or the administrative state. i would say us, the people. what president trump and his team were doing is something really kind of beyond the contemplation i think of even a lot of us that we dare to dream. host: the federal workforce as a toner 24 is a little over 2 million federal workers? what do

you think is the ideal number for the federal workforce? guest: it is also the federal contracting forces, about 15 million, so there is a huge conundrum about that new total and that is not military with 2.2. when we would talk about project 2025, i actually -- part of my stump speech was turned into elon musk for inspiration and what he had done at x and twitter. you intend to cut 80%. that is reportedly what he was able to do and it comes along. the reality is there's a lot of redundancy. i don't know what percentage it is, and they are discovering it, but any time any organization hasn't gone through essentially housecleaning in 40 years, you are going to find enormous inefficiencies. >> why wasn't that housecleaning done in the first trump administration?

>> they hit him what that bogus russia hoax and they had him on his back feet and looked, this whole weaponization of government is the deep state. when i came on here 18 months ago, a caller was like there is no deep state. well, what has happened in the last 18 months? the new york times came out and said, yes, there is a deep state and it is a good name. and now, we are like talking every day about draining the swamp and the deep state, but the deep state is the group that constructs this russia, russia, russia hoax. the deep state is the one that trots out, you know, the vaccine and the lockdown. and people, you know, the j six kind of cite out. so a lot of that, people are taking a massive red pill with trump and i think you see -- and i know this on the ground from my own experience, people who are, you know, centerleft one

through covid and just really reassessed what the role of government is in their life and really saw some, you know, some really disturbing decisions by the federal government. so i think we are at a great age here for reform. i think i would encourage liberals to join a hand. the thing that is boxed in a lot -- that has boxed in a lot of the left is that everybody wants things more efficient. you know? tell me why you wouldn't want to save $2 billion? even if it is $2 billion. what trump is doing is very popular and i think the left, in terms of the fake news thing about project 2025, that is over. you lost and you lost bigley on that. now is probably the time for them to kind of look critically and start cutting themselves and you see that with gavin newsom.

he reportedly kept a copy -- a highlighted copy of the book on his desk and he is actually appropriating the ideas. look, these ideas were not meant for a republican president. they were meant for any president. we thought there would be more receptivity with a conservative but a lot of those ideas in the main are common sense. host: five minutes left this morning, taking your phone calls. this is clara. wayne city, illinois, republican. good morning. caller: it's carla. host: sorry about that. caller: i did not hear nothing about project 2025 until it came out too much before president trump was elected but i was wondering how come nobody has addressed the federal prison system and how much we spend. we spent almost $43 billion on our federal prison system. it's 33,500 per person in prison.

to keep for a year. that means it's $120 today and i don't know why nothing has been addressed about that. that is a lot of money to go into the prison system, state and federal. guest: the caller is exactly right. that is something that i hope -- i believe that they will get to. president trump was a great advocate of criminal justice reform and you know, the prison system, like all particularly -- aspects of the administrative state, has been neglected. it really does need a top-down assessment, reassessment. and i think that is coming especially in the wake of what happened to the j six hostages, if you will. these were abominable at the -- abominable conditions, against the rights of man and the magna carta being held without charge,

without trial for years in solitary confinement, so i think a lot of those outrages will give rise to a reform in the federal prison system. host: in a few minutes, we are going to head to the conservative political action conference in d.c. guests are gathering there. c-span coverage in just a bit, showing you some of the speakers this morning and also this afternoon. until that begins, your phone calls in this conversation with paul dan's, section five of project 2025. independent regulatory agencies for different chapters about that. viewers can see it on their screen. and then i want to show this headline from the washington times today. donald trump seeks to exert control over independent agencies. we are talking the ftc, sec, fcc . what is an independent agency. guest: that is really a good question. it is a fiction is what it is.

it is unconstitutional at base or it is an outgrowth of the progressive era which was really, you know, the idea with the progressive era was that a few elites, elite cadre of experts would organize life for the rest of us and independent agencies were essentially a usurpation of the presidents executive power, investing it in a new group that would essentially be less accountable to political control. some of them certainly have existed well and have performed much more ably than others. but overall, the notion needs to be challenged and that is what i believe the administration is going to do. host: who is the most able independent agency and who is the least able? guest: things like the cfpb are

just complete -- that is basically a leftist grab bag exerting -- stealing basically regulatory powers for other areas of the government, the treasury department, commerce and the like, investing them in an untapped -- unaccountable agency which exacts mitchell penalties against industry and goals out that money to their own causes. that is one of the worst offenders. we have done well with the security exchange commission and others. they have a lot more accountability, i believe, electorally to the president. there is a spectrum to be sure. the federal reserve, you know, it has been independent and that is a major touchdown. that is a third rail. the president is correct in

saying that ultimately, the secretary of the treasury and the president should be able to guide the economy and the federal reserve. we have seen a very politicized federal reserve making interest rates kind of a function of coming elections. and i think that that is kind of -- that has kind of damage to their credibility. host: this is steve in lexington park, maryland. democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a very simple question to ask this gentleman here. first thing, i have been around for 71 years so i have seen a lot of presidents. i can remember president eisenhower, going back there. my question to this person is why are you supporting a criminal, a felon? he is a disgrace to the

presidency. why are you supporting a criminal for president? thank you. host: the final six seconds. -- 60 seconds. guest: donald trump is one of the great dynamic leaders in american history. i think you have seen somebody who took private sector expertise but always caring about the little guy. the other half of my family grew up in new york city. so we built that town doing all the dirty jobs and it wasn't until somebody like trump came along that cold in that city out of its malaise in the late 70's and really made new yorkers begin to believe again. what he did in four months was something that municipal government could not do in 10 years so you see somebody who just has this perception to cut to the core. look, the felon stuff is so erroneous. that was one of the great stains on our judicial history and i

think that is going to be coming out more and more but you know, as far as the tagline, i encourage the left to really look at the caliber of this man. somebody who gets up off the mat and says fight, fight, fight, that is an indomitable spirit. that is what made america great and it is going to make america great again. host: appreciate your time. guest: my pleasure. >> more with president trump and frank president macron this afternoon as their white house visit continues. the two will hold a press conference which is set to get underway at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span3 and you can also watch on our video app, c-span now, or at c-span.org. >> c-span, democracy unfiltered. we are funded by these television companies and more, including charter communications. >> charter is proud to be recognized as one of the best internet providers and we are just getting started.

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