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>> this afternoon, the house rules committee is segment up florida debate to fund the federal government until september 30. the house meads to pass bill before friday at midnight to avoid a government shutdown. we will be streaming live from our video app and our website c-span.org. if you'd like to watch. now, a couple of conversations from the conservative political action conference. first, remarks from white house deputy chief of staff for policy stephen miller and a discussion on the constitution. ♪

>> hello, cpac! [cheers and applause] who is ready in just a few short hours to hear from the man himself, our 47th president, donald j. trump? my friends, it has been a long road and these last four years, we felt every single painful minute. but nothing, nothing, my friends, is sweeter or more extraordinary than victory. [applause] who here has enjoyed the last 30 days of america's golden age? and who here has been filled with pride and excitement in

watching president trump install the most extraordinary cabinet and team any of us has ever seen? our new secretary of defense, pete hegseth. our new secretary of health and human services, robert f. kennedy jr. secretary of homeland security, kristi noem, secretary of state, marco rubio. and elon musk, white house chief of staff, suzy wild. and, and, perhaps the most exciting of all is the fact that every single day, the entire white house staff, the entire administration, the entire cabinet on behalf of president trump and his extraordinary

leadership is getting the lies out of our schools, the man out of women's sport, the poison out of our foods, the woke out of our military, the predators off our streets and the illegal aliens the hell out of our country! it's happening. it is happening every day under president trump. he is saying hell, no, to dei. he's saying hell, no to crt. hell, no to the indoctrination to our children. and hell yes to the idea that america belongs to americans. a historic slate of executive orders have been issued by president trump to reclaim control of this government, to reclaim control of our destiny, to reclaim control of our future. and to restore the idea that

under a democracy, the entire federal bureaucracy works for president trump and not the other way around. he is the elected head of our government. and to all the people in the media, all the people on the radical left, all the people in the democratic party screaming about democracy, donald trump is the one who is saving democracy. donald trump is the one who is saving our constitution. donald trump is the one who is saving america. and any federal bureaucrat who defies the lawful order of this president will be fired. president trump will ensure that whether you work at the f.b.i., whether you work at the c.i.a., whether you work at the department of homeland security, the department of justice and health and human services. career civil servants known as

bureaucrats work for the american people elected. they do not set their own agenda. they do not write their own rules. they do not work for themselves. they work for each and every one of you. you pay their sales. you pay for the buildings they work in. you pay for every single thing they do. and if they are not following the laws, the constitution and the president of the united states, then they will find a new career. by the way, speaking of the f.b.i., who here is thrilled about kash patel? let us know forget, let us not forget what president trump endured in order to get to this point to climb to the top of that everest summit. let us not forget what this

whole movement has endured to reach this glorious day. eight long years of weaponized government. the russia hoax, the ukraine hoax. one lie after another. one fraudulent impeachment after another. one hoax, one smear. government weaponized at every level against democracy. government weaponized at every level against the people. democrat prosecutor, democrat attorneys general, democrats careers using their power to try and sabotage the democracy of this country, to try to keep president trump off the ballot, to try to throw president trump in jail, to try to arrest his aids and hisan authoritarian mon this country that at every step, tried to stop the workings of

our democracy. and president trump, at a field in pennsylvania, nearly lost his life. and a few weeks later, another assassination plot. let me ask you this question, when the lawsuits came against president trump, when the lawfare came against president trump, when the weaponize law enforcement came against president trump, and when bullets came against president president trump, did he falter? did he backdown? did he yield, that he surrender, or did he stand up tall and strong and raise his fist into the air and say three immortal words, fight, fight, fight? every day that is what he is doing for you. he is fighting for your families, for your children, for your future. he is fighting for the

fundamental idea that this country belongs not to the bureaucrats, not to the radical communists, not to our foreign enemies, not to the criminal cartels. this country belongs to law-abiding, patriotic, god-fearing american citizens! it belongs to the people in this room. it belongs to the patriots watching at home today. i want you to know that every single morning, president trump wakes up, and he thinks about you. and all day long, as he's signing executive orders, as he's meeting with world leaders, as he is orchestrating and directing the actions of this government, he is thinking about you and your future. president trump's heartbeat for the american people. his heart beats for the american public, and his heart is filled with nothing but love and loyalty for this republic. no president has done more in 30 days than trumpcare has done.

but we need you to stay in the fight. it is not enough to celebrate the victories we've achieved thus far. every single day, i need, we need, and president trump, our president, needs you to be involved in pushing this agenda forward. promoting every single victory. every success. every agenda item. being involved at every level of politics to keep driving forward. do you think they're just going to give us our country back? do you think they're just going to roll over? move out of the way? stop their scheming and their lying? or do you think we are going to have to be on top of it every single day, focused every single day, driving forward every single day with unrelenting focus and passion. because god gave us this country. our founding fathers fought and died for this country. generations of americans have sacrificed and bled for this country. and we are not going to let the

radical-left, the communists, and the america haters take our country. it's not going to happen. not now. not ever. [applause] but it's going to take everyone in this room to stand with president trump each and every day. to stand by his side every single day as president trump boldly and bravely leads us into this golden age. and if you do that, i promise you, if you support this president, his leadership, his vision, his command, and his inspiration, i promise you that if we follow president trump, then this is what our future will look like: the best economy in history. the strongest border in history. the proudest and most patriotic children in history. the single greatest future in history. we will be worthy of this moment. we will prove worthy of this opportunity given to us by the almighty god. and i swear to you and promise you and i pledge to you, it will all be worth it.

and our children will -- grow up in a world where they can say america is stronger, more incredible, more courageous, more united, more devoted, more committed, prouder, and more amazing than it has ever been before! with the leadership and their vision and the drive that our president donald j. trump. so i ask you all to send a message right now to all the bureaucrats, to all the radical-left commies, to the criminal aliens, the following gains, the transnational terrorists, to everyone who threatens the future of this country. do you support president trump? do you believe in president trump? and do you believe in the future of america? thank you. god bless you, and god bless the united states! i love you. [applause] ♪

>> good morning, cpac. how is everybody today? you looking beautiful. i tell you what, i've been here several days. the energy and the excitement in this room is unbelievable. it's hard to believe that a year has gone. thank god. we lived with for years of a president who tried to shove down our throats marxism and the moral decay of the fabric of our country. and here we are, fast forward.

we got president donald j. trump, we have two genders, we have dei gone. we have equality over equity. border crossings down 93%. and we have a world stage where america is now respected and feared. so, what do you think? give me your two seconds on this. >> pretty good. next question? [laughter] how is everybody. come on, let's go! it's exciting times, is it not? well, i was thinking about somethingabout this cabinet that we have now. and i thought to myselfwe really have a cabinet that looked like america. first of all, you have a president who knows how many grandchildren he has, and he loves everyone of them. that helps.

[laughter] but let's look at this cabinet: we have the first person of color as fbi director. have you heard them say that? no. the first cuban-american as secretary of state. the first gay secretary of the treasury. the first straight secretary of transportation in years! we have one of the highest-ranking african-americans, elon musk -- [laughter] we have the first hillbilly vice president -- jd vance. we have the secretary of defense first who isn't 114 years old! we have women in the cabinet who are proud to be called women -- and know what the hell a woman is. [laughter]

and then there's donald trump -- who is on course to be the greatest president -- not just in modern history, and all of history. look at what he's done in just four weeks! >> bravo. give him a round of applause! >> and one other thing about donald trump -- i told him this at a hanukkah party a few years ago. he's the greatest friend israel has ever had! and so are you by the way. and i want to thank you for that. he's the greatest friend jews have ever had. so, we have the first jewish president in american history too. looks like america, that cabinet. >> speaking of that, i want to do a sincere shout out to the mercy and matt schlapp, because their steadfast support of israel is seen throughout this conference, day in and day out at cpac. we really need to thank them for

that. it's really, really huge. you know, there used to be a time that depravity, murder, brutality was not acceptable to either party. when republicans and democrats alike were determined to eradicate the enemy. but here we are after an october 7 when we really learned what today's democratic party is. it's the republican party. it's conservatives, its jews, it's christians who really care about what is going on in israel and are appalled at the heinous acts that happened on october 7. it's the republicans, is the conservatives, it's the donald j. trump who has said, "israel must win." israel must do what it needs to do -- not just to defend, but to go on offense and get rid of the enemy. [applause]

i just want to remind everybody that a year ago, i interviewed the father of a hostage victim, at that time, and here we are a year later. he is there. but, honey, i want you to talk about what we saw the other day, the four bodies coming out of israel, and the joy that was exhibited by the palestinians in gaza as these coffins were shown. >> these bastards must be eradicated. it's that simple. [applause] you don't take a nine-month-old baby and a four-year-old little boy and their mother -- torture them, strangle those kids with your bare hands, chop up their bodies so nobody will notice. remember when that mother was being pulled with her kids, and she knew? the people doing this are

subhuman. they are rabid. they are not animals. animals don't do this. donald trump knows this. these are the same people who attacked us on 9/11. the same people who decapitated 70 black christians in a congo church 48 hours ago. all of them. this is the enemy. it's not about land. it's not about borders. it's not about any of that. they seek to extinguish us. these islamist terrorists. and we are going to have to extinguish them before they even have a shot at distinguishing -- extinguishing us. [applause] another thing. constitutional crisis. give me a break. the democrat party that hates the founders, that is pushing

crt, the 6019 project that tells us the constitution is too old and too white -- the democrat party that doesn't believe the first, second, fifth, sixth, ninth, 10th, 14th amendments. the democrat party that doesn't believe in separation of powers. we don't need lectures from them about the constitution of the united states. that's number one. [applause] number two: you activist judges, which are basically slip and fall ambulance chasing lawyers in black robes. that is what they are. you either act like -- or get the hell off the bench. you are the people destroying the constitution. the president of the united states has the right to make personnel decisions, the right to make budget decisions, he has the right to restructure the

bureaucracy. i happen to have here a copy of the constitution. >> not that you needed. >> this little baby sticks with me all the time. >> you know how many federal district judges are in this constitution? none. they're created by congress. that's right. so congress has the power to make decisions over the executive branch. i thought it was separation of powers. judges have the power to tell the cdc were to put on their website? how is that separation of powers? we have a big problem in this country. we can't decide if our constitutional republic, every federal republic of our american republic road. the truth is the people are worried about the constitution. first of all, what constitution are they worried about? the old soviet constitution? because they sure as hell are not worried about our constitution that i can tell , you. you can't be a marxist and islamist, a radical leftist and support the constitution of the united states.

you just can't. what elon musk, with the leadership of donald trump have uncovered is a government within a government. it's not just waste, fraud and abuse. it is a subterranean government that is spending trillions of dollars to push a radical-left agenda. and we have no help for me in the media who are attacking the very people who are covering the bloat and the spending and the waste and the criminality. [applause] why the hell aren't you uncovering it? that's your damn job. >> well, and it is the same media that likes to avail itself of the first amendment, right? when it is convenient. so -- >> ap, and the rest of you big corporate media, it says freedom of the press. it doesn't say freedom of the corporate press. okay??

the president of the united states can decide which press he wants in the press room and which he doesn't. who died and gave you permanent seats in the press room? nbc and abc and cbs. [applause] besides, we don't get news from you people. i wrote a whole book on it called "unfreedom of the press." u're democrats. your leftists. we know exactly who we are, what you are doing. you can do whatever you want on your own time. can pretend you're in the press. we're not going to shut you down. we want you out there. why? we want the schmucks out front so everybody can see what they look like. that's ok. >> and not only that, what happened on november 5? november 5 proved that the american people are not fooled by the people back there and they know and they're able to find the truth because americans are smart and they know american values. they know right from wrong and no media is going to change them. >> by the way.

>> we don't have a lot of time. >> by the way, i know. -- i can't stop. [laughter] >> wait, wait, wait. i'm gonna let you say something, that i need you to reserve time -- because i'm the boss here. i need you to reserve time to talk about the misnomer that his birthright citizenship. >> that will take about 14 seconds. >> no, no, no, no. >> you know the media are funny, aren't they? they lied about joe biden. they didn't care. he didn't have any press conferences. now they are worried about a seat at the table. worried about a seat? for what? let me tell you something in the media. do we agree that abraham lincoln was a fantastic president? >> yes. >> he was a great president. he shut down 200 newspapers. donald trump hasn't shut down anything. you're going broke because we, the people are shutting it down. we are not subscribing. we are not buying your damn newspapers. not watching your tv shows.

we support the first amendment. we support free speech. we support freedom of the press. you don't! >> aldean really feel about it, honey? just kidding. >> isn't she pretty? >> [laughter] we need to talk about birthright citizenship because again, this is a perfect example of what the left do. they take words like "democracy" and "the constitution," they and then they exploit them because i don't really care about either of them. so they came up with this term birthright citizenship. like anybody who comes here illegally and gives birth that, that child, that baby is an american citizen, like like magic. that's not true. they cite the 14th amendment. do your mark levin thing where you give a little bit of a primer. no, because it's really important. it was so taken hostage, this paragraph in the 14th amendment. >> festival, i wore the wrong sox, honey. i'm showing a little ankle up

here. >> not showing anymore. >> ok, i was agreed to bring attention to it. [laughter] >> alright, i'll do it. i've been talking about this for 20 years. read it yourself. where's the phrase birthright? in the constitution? it's right next to abortion -- it doesn't exist. so they have this invisible pen. they write these things in. the 14th amendment was passed like the 13th and the 15th because of slavery and the civil war. the country came together in said, we must, in the constitution, fix this. we must give equal rates to human beings who have been held as slaves and are now free. we must give them all the protections and rights of a citizen of the united states. jurisdiction thereof meant the

black slaves who were now free, were in the jurisdiction of the united states and all the rights and privileges including equality in all the rest, would apply to them. it was written by republican senators. the 14th amendment, this aspect of it, was based on the 1866 civil rights act, the first civil rights act. andrew johnson, who was then president after the assassination of lincoln, was a democrat. he refused to sign the civil rights bill. so they overruled him and they said, we need to ensuring this in the constitution of the united states. rack provision applied to black people who were freed from slavery and we were still being used in the old confederacy. and that memo was passed by three fourths of the state

legislatures, including southern states that were told, if you don't vote for this, you are not coming back into the union. we know what they meant. the author of the 14th amendment specifically rejected the idea of aliens. specifically. in fact, they rejected the idea of what they called indians, because they had separate countries at the time. or at least it was viewed that way. so they were excluded. underscoring the fact that you had to be a united states citizen and understood to be. so, people who write that all of a sudden now it's interpreted to mean if you come into the united states illegally and you have a baby, that's a citizen, that baby? there is literally no language to back it up, no legislative history to back it up, no risk whatsoever to back the car. and yet i suspect the courts are greatly gain birthright citizenship crowned with want. and no mentions from the 1898 decision involving a chinese couple still didn't apply to illegal aliens.

so legal aliens have no -- illegal aliens have no constitutional basis. but i will just warn you about this. hollywood john roberts -- that's what i call him because he is worried about the press -- i don't think he and i don't think his new best friend barrett, will do the right thing. in i think they'll join the 3 -- i can see movement because she see women -- >> that's ok, you can say. >> two of the non-males and one of the males. i think that's a 5 that worries me, but just understand your constitution does not provide for birthright citizenship. period. >> i just want to add women little flame point, because you said a lot there. you notice how it's the republican party that consistently has been the champion of equality and the rights of black people. throughout history. >> admin major civil rates

starting in 1866, through the 1950's with eisenhower, the 1960's, the republicans either wrote it, sponsored it, or they had supermajorities to get past. never forget. the democrat party is the party of slavery, segregation, eugenics, jim crow. now that the party of marxism, islamism and anti -constitutionalism. that's a fact. >> and it was woodrow wilson who did what? he resegregated the military when he became president. >> god bless you all. our time is up. be well. >> we love you comiskey park! >> and thank you, president trump! ♪

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we are just>> getting started. building 100,000 miles of new infrastructure to reach those who need it. >> charter cmunications supports c-span as a public service, along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. we are going to be discussing the trump administration policies on trade and tariffs and for that, we are joined by joshua meltzer of the brookings institution, where he is a global economy at development program senior fellow. good morning. and we also have here in studio tj antonio, a research fellow and public finance economist at the heritage foundation. there have been so many movements in the timeline of what has been happening with trade and tariff policy. abc news has an article sort of breaking down some of the dates and things that have happened recently. let's go through a few of them.

february 1, president trump announced tariffs on imports from mexico and canada. february 3, he delayed those tariffs on mexico and canada. march 4, imse a 25 percent tariff on all imports from canada and mexico plus a additional 10% tariff on all imports om china in addition to 10% that were already in place for china. march 5, delayed the tariffs on cars from canada for a month, that on march 6, delayed the tariffs on most goods from mexico and canada for a month. tj, let's start with you. with this month of on-again, off-again tariffs and reprieves, amid the uncertainty, what did you take away from the week in terms of what the president is thinking, what is trade policy is and where it is headed? guest: great questions.

one of things to remember is that amidst what looks like chaos is actually active negotiations. much of what the president is going to do one tariffs is dependent on what his counterparts in other nations decide to do. this is the whole point of reciprocity for example. if we want to be able to export our products into other countries markets, then we are going to have to see other nations essentially giving out the exact same grace. so if canada, for example, wants to be able to send their products to the united states, that's fine. then there markets need to be open to us. our dairy farmers need to be able to send cheese to canada. our auto manufacturers need to be able to send car parts to canada without the massive tariff and nontariff barriers that are in place. so as these negotiations proceed and as president trump and his counterparts negotiate what the

tariff and nontariff rates are going to be, we should expect to continue to see these different news headlines that look like they are going back and forth but i think that is really just a reflection of what is happening behind those doors. host: joshua, what is your take on the policy strategy so far, and what the risks of this kind of uncertainty are for businesses and investors? guest: great to be here. i think uncertainty is certainly the keyword at the moment. it would be great to think about these actions broadly as well as specifically to canada and mexico. obviously, that's been the focus of the president since he came into office. and the important thing obviously is that trade and investment relationships with canada and mexico, president trump negotiated during his

first term in office, the north american free trade agreement, he was proud of the justifiably, described as the most fair and balanced trade agreement ever when it was signed during his first term in office, and under that agreement, all those tariffs between all three countries. poses on mexico, the u.s. imports, mexican imports. the u.s. imposes tariffs on canadian and mexican imports. so these tariffs on mexico and canada are particularly confounding. it's not to say that there may not be a need for some tariffs in some areas because one of the issues has been that free-trade agreements between countries generally have these things and then called rules of origin. so you want to make sure that

goods coming in from canada and the united states are actually largely made in canada, that the countries are taking advantage in order to get to the united states market. and when you have zero tariffs it becomes very costly not to use products from third countries and you may just say we will export to the u.s. so this technical issues that need to be addressed potentially, but broadly speaking there's free-trade. i think the back-and-forth that we seen has essentially reflected a couple of things read it may be in negotiated strategy but ultimately what we're are seeing the impact of these tariffs, they are going to be so costly for businesses and consumers that the president

ultimately, i think you heard that. back-and-forth has reflected that dynamic gradually. there is a question now of reciprocity which has been discussed here, and we can get into that because i think that is going to be an extremely complicated process. but the net result is we are in very uncertain times, and one of the things we learned about uncertainty, because this sort of happened across north america during the first trump administration when there was sort of the threat of the united states withdrawing from the nafta agreement and the outcome was also uncertainty, and we saw investment across the united states, canada and mexico drop host: speaking of businesses in particular because you mentioned the response from the business sector, i want to read the statement from the u.s. chamber of comme