in areas with flooding in destruction, and do you have the backup plan using schools in some areas? it might not be the best in that circumstance. >> there's a long wait for the solution regarding. you're right about catastrophic disaster. what happens when you have people dislocated on a basis for a long period of time? there is the housing task force that fema has that should be the natural connection into getting people into shelters and other types of housing. i know that looking at evacuation's of people through other areas is a possibility, but that has its own trials and

tribulations. as it stands right now, the options are limited. we feel a quietness, especially when people are evacuated. the community would like to get back to being normal again. it is something that, until a solution comes up for interim housing, we will be struggling with that. this issue. >> and in the model for shelter programs, do you have a framework? one week, two weeks, three days, 30 days? your plan is for immediate, not long term. what is your plan? >> we look at 30 days. beyond that, it might not be a good environment for a lot of folks.

so unless there is no other option, we would like these children to be within a 30-day* frame. >> given that this is still would i would identify as one of the gaps i see across the board, that prompts me to ask, do you have any comments on private- sector solutions that might be willing to step forward on this issue? >> i do. first, i think part of what you heard in the testimony is this idea about getting to defining the objective rather than the process, and i think that is critical. he said in your opening statement, how do we went? it is a state issue.

the local governments, not only in the context of crisis preparedness -- what are the solutions? fema is to be commended for having the task force put out on housing, but we have to address what we are going to do if we have 200,000 americans homeless again? the current solution will not solve that. you cannot leave things in schools indefinitely. secondly, we have seen active engagements. sprint is a big player, and another technology has been provided to identify skill and a local community, not depended on traditional resources.

they make the availability there for local officials to be able to deal with it. we have been wrestling with a model of disaster preparedness for the first -- last 25 years, which is not good for catastrophic events. what you heard in the earlier testimony and you are hearing from the red cross and 211 and united way is 21st century thinking for disaster response and recovery. that is what the community initiative is about. let's don't put it on the back of government trying to be everything to everybody. let's take a community approach to community problems to deal with the crisis. >> i want to stress that it is important for the government to give to function.

when it does not, other parties, private-sector, nonprofit, states, or locals have a difficult time. so you are correct. the focus is, is the nation's ready, not just is fema or homeland security ready or the federal government ready. is the nation ready? but it is important for the least the federal infrastructure to be clear, and i think the vision that was hat, and i happen to agree with you about the quality in these positions. if anyone can get it done, this is the team that can, with our support and a lot of other people's input. let me ask you this about the red cross. i understand that congress has appropriated a lot of money for the red cross, which is not

unprecedented, but not common. can you comment on what resources you have to address this pending hurricane season? >> we did receive an appropriation from the federal government and are in the process of drawing funds from the executor of the grant. $100 million total. and we are in the process of drawing that reimbursement for expenses for the last hurricane season. it continues until the end of this fiscal year. in addition, we have taken activities to come within budget, and looking at our finance. part of that is we have structured organization substantially to reduce costs,

and we're in the middle of that. and we want to get out even in this time of instability to raise funds on an ongoing basis. so we believe that the combination of cutting back and restructuring the organization, reducing expenses, fund-raising, and the appropriation, we should balance our organization. we do project that we will have a balanced budget and we will proceed on that basis. >> thank you. what is your budget? >> i would have to get back to you. it is all will over $3 billion. -- all little over $3 billion. >> can you comment on the bill

going through congress and again, what the two or three most important part of that legislation are for supporting a national network of volunteers, in large measure. it is led by staff but leveraged by volunteers. it would provide the only operations, but training necessary to provide backup communications so central in disaster of any size. it is not a small problem for you, but tell us again about the specifics of what you see benefiting in that legislation. >>:4211 is critical.

we are going for 100% coverage. but that is 25 counties. there is a map that shows that. and the red states are where we are in development. and it is concerned that there are gaps along the way, all the way up to delaware, l.i., world georgia, and the panhandle, some areas. that is significant. we would also be allowed the telephony capacity to be connected. we are blessed in louisiana for money given after katrina, and i

gives us the opportunity to move around, which is an incredible opportunity. the capacity through technology is critical. >> if you could take that down for a minute and leave the state issue, am i seeing that you are shaking your head in new york and new jersey and pennsylvania, and is that kentucky, west virginia, or delaware? >> kentucky, south dakota, arizona, wyoming. >> the reason i raised this is because the predictions for the feeling about it, because the

storm is there, there is some sense that this is east coast time, and i need to reinforce that -- reinforce that the people in the northeast have not had a storm in a long time, but there are significant studies showing what will happen if there is, and it is not a pretty picture. and there was a major storm that hit long island, for you to understand what there is today. , 80 years later. i'm asking you, are you testifying that that part of the evidence area, they're virtually is no communication of people outside of york 911.

in terms of where you can get a shelter, a voucher for a house, a meal for your child, that is the service you provide. >> you are right. it speaks to the urgency of the 211 act to are supporting, and i have to tell you that i know it was never more vividly describe your illustrated and after 9/11. the state of new york did not have it, and connecticut did. and they document the difference and the response, in that very organized region of our country. it was vivid. 211 was a very successful response in the state of connecticut. it was well documented, the concerns that occurred in new york.

>> have a category for a hit in long island in 1998 that displaced hundreds of residents. the question is, for this densely populated area, if you do not have a number to dial to get informations, if your electricity is severely compromised, if you do not have the right shelter plan, and if the only fema housing plans are what they are today, trailers, we're in for a very serious situation, here. that is why this committee continues to work. we will continue to work. but it is just a matter of time. and i do not know how much more akin to personally to impress upon people how insufficient some of these -- held real some of these caps are, and what

catastrophe lies ahead, should a hurricane slammed into one of these densely populated urban and low-lying areas across the coast. having said that, i do not know if we just have a short about of time -- if there is anything you want to add -- >> i would like to reinforce what you said about the major metropolitan areas and the level of capacity and prepared this in the area -- preparedness in this area. these disasters are an animal into themselves. it is something we have not experienced until recently, and there is a great deal of work that needs to be done, particularly in those areas. we seem to go ok on the recurrent disasters at a certain level, and those happen on a

regular basis. but when we get to those events, it affects the whole country. that keeps us concerned on a consistent basis. >> not to be a dead horse, but i have to say, with the terrorist attack in new york, a horrible event, there were buildings destroyed in a confined space. and while the disaster brought the world, 99.9% of the people on that night were home in their

own homes. there was a small percentage of people, led by rudy giuliani and all of the rest of this small group that were focused on this particular thing. that night in new york, new jersey, and connecticut, almost everyone was in their own bed. that is the difference between what happened there and what happened in katrina, where 2 million people were somewhere other than their own bedroom. i do not think the country understand what will happen if this happens in new jersey or connecticut or pennsylvania or virginia, or anyplace.

and i think the people think they are not going to be impacted by category 5 hurricanes. i think they think it built on long enough to withstand it. so i will continue to make my voice heard it to the president and leadership and hope we get through this storm season without getting through this season in a major area. and northeast metropolitan area have a lot more than we do across the coast. the numbers are staggering. i do not know. >> first of all, thank you for your sense of urgency, and i want to give you an update regarding this issue.

new york city has x 1 blogs -- excellent resources, but they have had to cut their funding. you know this vividly. while there is a chart that shows significant growth, during katrina, people's lives were saved by the volunteers and staff of 211. we did connecting people to the appropriate governmental entities, and the most vivid example is a volunteer took a call from a man who went back into his home and found his

mother's body. there was no to call the 211. your urgency to continue this funding and legislation speaks to the need of the american people. >> thank you. any closing,? >> i have come to realize there has not been a lot of consistent advocacy on the hill on the issues of disaster and response recovery. one of the things we have seen with the initiative is i know you are focused on it. we have had a bit of a shakeup in the los angeles region, with eight pandemic. and the one thing i encourage you to do is let's make this about the need for better capabilities to deal with

catastrophic events, particularly housing, in respect of of the cost. because as the senator from illinois pointed out, he is more concerned about tornadoes these days, and we need to make sure we are resonating that argument. >> thank you. i do want to support your point. i will call a hearing for earthquakes, particularly, and i want to show a film in this committee about what is going to happen when an earthquake, a major earthquake, not just california, but memphis, which is a target -- i will use the risk assessment by our managers to show likely disasters, what they think would happen. this is what our government and scientists and leaders believe

that we will try continuously to show the probabilities to respond to what we are predicting is going to happen. and as we work, i realize there are other properties in the government. but having represented people who survive a disaster, it is hard to tell them there is not a priority, and that is what is going to happen. with people caught up in it at the time it happens, it is hard to tell them there is a higher priority. a shelter, a potential job, a place to return. it becomes a very significant issue for any country, whether

it is china, india, or other questions and countries we have seen go through horrific catastrophic disasters, and it is just a matter of time before these predictions happened. we are not ready. thank you, all. we will call the hearing to the close, and the record will remain open for 15 days, and we urge anybody to submit any data that will be helpful to our committee. thank you very much. meeting adjourned. hosc-span[captioning performed y national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009]

>> the house gavels in monday. on the agenda, a bill reauthorize the state department programs for 2010, including u.s. peacekeeping and legislation increasing military and nonmilitary aid. the house is live on c-span. the senate is also back on monday it 2:00 p.m., to continue work on a bill regulating tobacco products. and it is possible next week that congress will vote on a conference report to the war spending bill. the house is expected to vote on that measure first. there will also be a debate on a bill to create public-private corporation to increase the number of foreign tourists visiting the united states.

>> how is c-span funded? >> private donations? >> i do not know. >> donations? >> federally? >> c-span was greeted as a public service, a private initiative with no government mandate, no money. >> robert muller spoke tuesday to the economic club of new york, discussing the fbi's role in fighting financial crime. with a question and answer section, this event is about 40 minutes.

>> welcome. this club is the leading speaking form on the economy. more than 1000 guest speakers have appeared before the script in the past century, and their names are listed in your program. they established a very strong tradition excellence and big ideas like any roster for the club of new york. i would also like to recognize and members of our centennial society, in order to insure the ongoing viability of the organization. 110 members of the society are also listed in your program.

we are also honored to hear from robert muller, director of the fbi. he is the sixth director nominated by george w. bush, sworn in as director september 4, 2001. that is just one week before 9/11. after receiving his degree at princeton university and his master's degree in international relations from new york university, the director joined the marine corps, serving as an officer for three years, leading a rifle platoon in vietnam for one year. for his service, he received a bronze star, two commendation medals, a purple heart, and a vietnamese cross of gallantry. following his career in the marines, he went on to earn his law degree from new va law school -- the university of

virginia law school. he will speak to us today about an important topic in the economy generally and in the city, in particular. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. good afternoon. it is a pleasure. there was a proposed entertainment venue that would combine the fun of a theme park with the excitement of macro economics. one could float like a butterfly with the euro arsenic is still with the pound. one could trouble with the years in the face of distressed

deaths, and my favorite, in fiscal fantasy land where one could watch the economy shrank to nothing before their very eyes. it took only a moment to realize this was only an april fool's joke. unfortunately, the chamber of horrors and fiscal fantasylands are not so far from the truth. this is not the first instance of bad business judgment or a metal traded agreed. -- or greed. in an address, the president warned against unscrupulous behavior. he stated that when conditions

are such that we can act without supervision or control, they pollute innocent people, and barking and kind of business that are of sound. this warning could have happened yesterday, but teddy roosevelt delivered it more than a century ago, in 1907, the same year as that meeting. roosevelt knew that money and power were self dealing. the fbi was treated just one year later. today, i want to talk about the fbi role in combating white- collar crime. we talk about the need for integrity in the marketplace and board room, in government, and touch upon our unique roles in this fiscal calculus.