. >> what was the best training? >> the years i spent in business trying to learn how to help other people do their best work in large numbers. manager lead a complex original

station, zeen an an on every dwhrar. >> i try to do my own work. i wrote that add problem li 10 months from the election.

i suppose i said it because we are not on the beat to know we are >> are you stilt of the same mind, no matter how bop fe there are lots of reasons quor is it. i wasn't to we have a very determined level to get no to

our state"&d. what are the negatives? >> two? >> i wouldn't subject any seven i've hired on for four years.

it is a very fulfilling thing to bonn on bay the bay. . . last thing i read was you tonet to the 2 he we covered them. >> how do do you it? >> rw. pretty much this enltry level triada.

. i can name a bhole list of issues or pobs owe the bar stool i was sitting on in indiana, we work really hard.

we are pushing 60 or 64 cents think. . he was right. we went and sb something gells request that he was right.

let's go through the different things you've done. the man on again own heared. 1983. that was teen years ago. at that time, the best public high school in america. we were all so fortunate to go there. it showed me you can vot

unplgis am to i >> lowest person on the pow teem pole for l >> class race for our gnat. he went on to renone noubyipybadsib >> i fish ined school. the continue.

he was an eye zeal egg i went to work for him a couple automaticer the >> i just turnled 60?pz&c13 >> i did. >> how hold you were you

>> incidentally frpblt just the difficulty of making a major zinches requires as i ney >> i was on my whay home. by that tame

>> i had friends in the megan white house. think he hadded me to go in there >> so that came an end in what year in sl 9 of i went home to the private life where i thought i would spend the porking of my lays. tom who for hom?

the legal profession was spared the area of my sifferses her neard. . we did what i consider the single luises of piece. i never came work myselfx >> you mean the george bush administration?

. now they are calling about the one job that they have did i interest interested in. here's a eeper sthop you comblfering on 26 ot, 2001. the president is the biggest spender hands zoun with the timing pound >> we are talking about big spenders.

we are facing a crisis. >> if i remember right, nrk that's knots government spending. so i would have taken seppings

>> you got these scut pretty bipbafmenteauppp >> particular when you foiks are there. you cart stace courting i didn't intend to stick around washing.

really they argd me i was looking for fights but i never expected to be up there. during goffering bush's prack tan si. ket increased by 10 pipeon. >> does you ever recommend a veto that he sadensh to? i felt like if the bit got at the way to the fond frent i

wonly would have have any a present he got it's interesting to know that frebfws a was over >> its foot of trape in chick he stapes

>> and i rack said $200 million. everyone set that's. well, i have a big thick file to corn firm. it's very, very clear on the records that the asumentses. quhindkinet of walt gray youw

>> this wasn't going to be world war ii or veet ma'am. >> we are up to about $700 million the least. >> i think, i'm not going to second guess anybody's decision. i will say it has had profound consequences. . the fatigue of it all. i it was curning attorney but not it really make an office. bill on on peanl i was in many

speemings. the only question was when and where people should be a little more charitable, i think. try to put yourself in the position of the decision makers who tho to pake that i on

>> i addressed the high school for my youngest. i had to servewlrpt to everybody out term. people have to ask themselves, if i'm going to go, i at to 0 i zidsed to go home. i asked for my honorable iii. thes then i turned my decision to -- i won't call him frim friend. the well neening people back home who happened knowc÷ when

some lobbiest and legislature offers to spend on some faff rite tax dollar, ask him, which of my woox doored of phrase and boats too. we weep our copon sense now, we'll get through this tough patch and come out ahead of other states. >> what's the huesier.

>> no one knows for sure. it is a person in my opinion, of passion and common sense. i think you represent us pretty well, by the way. we have heard it say that indiana is the only state left with a surplus?

you are going to increase things 2 paint 5%. in that speech, i put up a map that shows how many states have done that. i said to my fellow hosiers. in business, the strongest businesses instnd to i am prufere their position.

if we are able to keep business up and taxes down, businesses will come to indiana >> in the legislature, the senate house made up of.ws democratic republicans. what's the break? >> we are 6-3. >> i jo y where did you get the idea to sell the toll road for

$3 paupt 5 million. >> yins >> i didn't get up one morning and say, boy, it would be fun to loice a lover >> i wish more of it had dealt with that. he was right about that. >> indiana got a three-year rt

many are now writing the poll tish yoons overpaid. but indiana got almost dhs mid. we are reinvisiting all of it in our future who lease it had.

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clips here. you tell me what were you looking at after the picture. >> well, that's all right. not everybody is. was it anything in particular?