25, 2009, and witness whereof i have set my hand and caused to be afixed the seal of the united states senate at washington, d.c., this 25th day of june, 2009. signed, nancy ericson, secretary of the senate. the chair: referred to the manager -- managers on the part of the house appointed by house resolution 565 and ordered printed. pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the house will stand in

>> over the next half hour, congressional leaders and president obama talk about climate change and energy legislation that's scheduled to come up in the house tomorrow. >> president obama's first, followed in five minutes by house speaker nancy pelosi, then minority leader john boehner in about 20 minutes. >> on washington journal tomorrow, we'll preview and energy bill with two members of the energy committee, arizona republican representative john shad degree and representative jay infree from washington. and we'll hear about issues facing puerto rico. washington journal is live on c-span every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> a couple of live events to tell you about tomorrow morning. the sarah mcclinton group is

hosting discussions of allegations of justice department misconduct during the bush administration. representative john con years and nan aaron, president of the alliance for justice. that's on c-span 3 and 8:00 eastern. at 9:00 eastern on c-span 2, a discussion on the future of healthcare. panelists include robert reishauer, and mark mclen lon, former head of medicare and medicaid. >> as this year's supreme court term comes to an end, hear chief justice roberts talk about the court's work. then a panel of experienced court watchers, including linda greenhouse, jan crawford greenburg and ted olsen review the decisions handed down this past year. live coverage on chinese span saturday morning at 9:00 eastern. >> now president obama on the energy bill that's scheduled in

the house tomorrow. the bill would cap greenhouse gas emissions and establish a market for emissions credit. this is five minutes. >> hey, guys. good afternoon. right now the house of representatives is moving towards a vote of historic proportions on a piece of legislation that will open the door to a new clean energy economy. for more than three decades we talked about our dependence on foreign oil. and for more than three decades, we've seen that dependence grow. we've seen our reliance on fossil fuels jeopardize our national security. we've seen it poe lute the air we the air we breathe and endanger our planet. most of all we've seen that other countries realize a critical truth: the nation that lead in the creation of a clean energy economy will be the nation that leads the 21st

century global economy. now's the time for the united states of america to realize this as well. now is the time for -- the time for us to lead. the energy bill before the house will finally create a set of incentives that will spark a clean energy transformation of our economy. it will spur the development of low carbon sources of energy, everything from wind, solar and geothermal power to safe nuclear energy and cleaner coal. it will spur new energy savings that reduce heating cost notice winter and cooling costs in the summer. and most importantly it will make possible the creation of millions of new jobs. make no mistake. this is a jobs bill. we're already seeing why this is true in the clean energy investments we're making through the recovery act. in california, 3,000 people will be employed to build a new solar plant that will create 1,000 jobs. in michigan, investments in wind

turbines and wind technology is expected to create over 2600 jobs. in florida, three new solar projects are expected to employ 1400 people. the list goes on and on. but the point is this: this legislation will finally make clean energy the profitable kind of energy. that will lead to the creation of new businesses and entire new industries. and that will lead to american jobs that pay bell and can't be outsourced. i've often talked about the need to build a new foundation for economic growth cycle of bubble and bust that has led us into this deep recession. clean energy and the jobs it creates will be absolutely critical for that new foundation. this legislation has also been written carefully to address the concerns that many expressed in the past. instead of increasing the deficit, it's paid for by the polluters who currently emit dangerous carbon emissions. it provides assistance to businesses and families as they make the gradual transition to

clean energy technologies. it gives are youral communities and farmers the opportunity to participate in climate solutions and generate new income. and above all it will protect consumers from the costs of this transition so that in a decade the price to the average american will be about the same as a postage stamp per day. because this legislation is so balanced and sensible, it's also attracted a remarkable coalition of consumer and environmental groups, labor and business leaders, democrats and republicans. now i urge every member of congress, democrat and republican, to come together to support this legislation. i can't stress enough the importance of this vote. i now this is going to be a close vote, in part because the misinformation that's out there that suggests there's somehow a couldn't diction between investing in clean energy and our economic growth. but my call to those members of

congress who are still on the fence as well as to the american people is this: we cannot be afraid of the future. we can't be prisoners of the past. we've been talking about this issue for decades. and now's the time to finally act. there's no disagreement over whether our dependence on foreign oil is endangering our security. we know it is. there's no longer a debate about whether carbon pollution is placing our planet in yep are ditch. it's happening. -- in jeopardy. and there's no longer a question about whether the jobs in the 21st cently will be centered around clean renewable energy. the only question is what country will be at the front. i want it to be the united states of america. i believe the men and women and people they send to congress share that view. let's meet our obligations to our constituents, to our children, to god's creation and

to future generations. thank you very much. >> what are you doing to get the bill passed? >> are you disappointed the 100% auction is now 50%? i'll take that as a yes. >> house speaker nancy pelosi's weekly briefing included questions on healthcare and the climate change bill scheduled for debate in the house tomorrow. this is 15 minutes. >> good morning. since last we meet the three committees of jurisdiction for healthcare reform put forth a draft. and we're very proud of the work that they have done. it takes us a step closer to providing what the president has called for, affordable quality accessible healthcare for all americans. it will bring down costs, improve quality, and make

america healthier. i commend chairman rangel of the ways and means committee, chairman miller of the education and labor committee and chairman waxman of the energy and commerce committee. and this week we are continuing our work on our historic energy bill which is important to our national security, it's important to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, in the interests of protecting american people, and our interest to reduce pollution in the air, to protect the health of our children and all americans. it's important for us to invest in new contingencies to keep america number one in innovation and new green technologies and to create millions of new jobs in this new green economy. and it's important. that's why i'm so glad that people of faith are working with us to preserve god's beautiful creation and our moral

responsibility to pass it on to the next generation better than we found it. so it's a pretty exciting, it's historic, it's transformational, and we're working hard to bring it to the floor this week. with that i'll be pleased to take any questions you may have. >> [indiscernible] >> you know what? we have to go over the schedule. because it just depend. we have the family event at the white house this evening. there's a funeral for one of our members who is prominent in the discussion on the interior bill. so we're working out the schedule. yes, ma'am. >> [indiscernible] had less than two days to review final version to the [indiscernible] before it was voted on. -- giving americans at least a week to review the full version of the healthcare bill before it is voted on?

and also will you commit to submitting the final version to the crowe's. >> we will abide by the regular -- or you heard the questions about having the healthcare bill out there a week in advance. we have -- we will have the regular order in terms of the appropriate amount of time, 48 hours in advance for amendments, -- another day before you can take up the bill. but this bill is something that has been unfolding before the american people for a long time now. the areas of controversy are well-known. the issue of a public option is probably the most significant debate that we will have in the house on the legislation as i see it now. but the bill will come forth under the regular order. and that's why the three chairmen put out the draft now. they put out some principles

early on, the president put out his principles, we had a month before the memorial break for everyone to see what was happening, to take ideas from our members. so it was in the public domain. but not as a bill. now they put out this draft which has been well-received and i'm very proud of the work. it's a well-managed approach to how we go forward. and when we are ready with a draft, then they will put that forth. but it will be under the regular order. >> yesterday members of the leadership team were telling us they think they will have the votes to pass the the cap-and-trade bill. have you gone from think to know? >> well, you never know until you take the vote. but we are making progress. and i'm very pleased. it's a very healthy discussion. as i say, this is a bill with a vision. it's very visionary, it's very

transformational. it's very necessary for us to go forward with this. and it has differences of opinion across the philosophical spectrum, across geographic areas. and it is -- so it's a very i think informative conversation that we're having with each other. and right now -- >> madam speaker, you called former vice-president gore last night to cancel his trip to the caucus this afternoon. could you explain to us why you did that? and is that a sign of your growing confidence in your capacity to sway folks or decreasing confidence? >> well, it's a question of what was energy efficient for the vice-president. we were narrowing the list of the undecide's and thought perhaps another occasion we could call upon his time to come here and be as i say more energy efficient for him to coordinate the efforts from for us.

-- for -- from tennessee for him and washington, d.c. for us. >> so it's possible that you talked about with him the democratic caucus for the climate bill. are you still satisfied that what you wound up with and going to the floor is the best you could have done for the environment for carbon load in the environment? >> i'm very proud of the legislation that we had. it is something that we commend mr. waxman and mr. markee the members -- sponsors of the bill -- the select committee on energy security and climate change that was formed for this purpose. the mr. collin peterson, the chairman of the agriculture committee, is great in how he thought the priorities of the ag community to bear in the

conversation. >> and now he will have an amendment on the floor that will capture the issues and enable america's farmers to fuel america's energy independence. and mr. wrangle, the chairman of the ways and means committee, did a great job of how we go forward from the standpoint of his committee. i don't know if we have it here, but what you should see is what the c.d.o. put out about how lower income people will benefit from this bill, -- so i am very proud of the bill. i think it takes us in the direction we want to go. >> -- all the different factions you brought together which is sort of a house of representatives answer.

my question was an environment in more of a scientific question. are you satisfied that the concessions you've made the bill is the best you could have done for the environment? >> yes. and let me say this, to give me another opportunity to put this in a context of which i'm very proud. >> we have to look at the fiesta -- we passed the recovery act which had record investments in science and technology as related to energy and otherwise but as related to energy. a strong commitment to the grid. we took big steps there for -- on the environment and the energy issue. same thing. -- has provisions. the budget has the energy issue as one of its key pillars for turning the economy around. this is a viable bill to reduce e emissions and it will.

>> the reason it will help the environment is because it will work. it will work. >> what do you think the chances are this year for a comprehensive immigration reform? how do you see the road map from here? >> you know there's a meeting at the white house today on immigration. and i'm very pleased that white house is focussing on that. we have been ready for a long time. and we've had our principles established of securing our border, enforcing our laws, -- families and having the path to legalization for people who are in this country. the plan has always been for the senate to go first and senator reid has a positive statements about the prospect for that.

so i'm encouraged by that but we're ready anytime. >> -- he believes they can get a compromise in the house. >> to get the votes to pass it. he says the issue is will you commit of bringing the immigration reform to the floor for debate, would you set a date? >> i said that the senate will go first. that's what we have done. we are ready to have this debate. we're interested in what will happen at the white house today. we think this is important that president has called this meeting. he had the health summit, the economic summit, the auto summit. now wee having immigration. i don't know if we'll call this a summit but a meet, at the white house. and i don't know if he called all the others a summit, either. but we are ready to go. i hope that congressman spillard

-- lincoln or mario -- lincoln, will encourage many republicans to join him in his enthusiasm for immigration reform. >> -- to be debated on the floor? >> sorry? >> how committed are you? >> absolutely. this to me is who we are as a country. immigration has been the constant reinvigoration of america. every person who comes here with their aspirations for a better future for their family, that commitment of making the future better for the next generation is a very american idea. so all of them who come with their enthusiasm for the future make america more american. i'm very excited about that. >> how would you compare the effort you and the leadership team have had to go through on this big energy bill and probably the bigger healthcare bill? and the difficulty and the outside mobilization and the opposition you've encountered? >> how would i compare the two? >> yes. >> well, the legislative process is a very dynamic one. and it's what we came here to

do. and it's frankly what we enjoy. it is listening to people to hear what their concerns are. everyone agrees that we must have a healthier america. now, how do we get from here to there? the efforts are approximately the same, it's about the substance, it's about the inside maneuvering, it's about the outside mobilization, it's about listening to people to hear what their concerns are. and many ideas frankly are improvements on what others may have thought and improve the legislation. to work closely with the white house on two of the president's top priorities. in the budget, three priorities. energy, education, healthcare. under the framework of reducing the deficit, creating jobs and lowering taxes. as we do that, we are going forward now this month and next on energy and healthcare, education will be in the mix as

well. so they're all challenging because we want the best possible product. but we also want the most consensus, which is essential for us not only to pass the bill but for to do the job that it sets out to do. healthcare reform must work. energy reform must work. >> [indiscernible] on healthcare. do you have any indication [indiscernible] >> thanks. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> house minority leader john

baner also talked about the bill with reporters on thursday. his weekly briefing is 15 minutes. >> >> all year long, the democrats have made here in washington have made plenty of promises about putting americans back to work. but the question is, where are the jobs? we all remember the trillion dollar stimulus bill. democrats promised it would be about jobs, jobs and jobs. and clearly all it's turned into is about spending, spending and more spending. so on the way in here i saw a report that only 1% of the highway construction dollars have left washington and gone to the states. 1%! member all the shovel-ready projects that this money was going to go to? so really the question is about jobs and where are the jobs as a result of all the money that's been spent. this week, democrats continued to shut down debate on the house

floor for republican amendments on spending legislation because they just can't spend taxpayer funds fast enough. we've seen plenty of spending this year, but again where are the jobs? we've lost 3 million jobs so far this year. and i'm trying to figure out with all the spending that's gone on, where are the new jobs? they just haven't shown up. and the fact is, jobs don't come from government, they come from small businesses. and all year long we've passed policies around here that grow government but hurt small businesses, the engine of economic growth in our country. a real stimulus bill is a bill that helps small businesses. and we haven't seen that yet. you have to remember the republican plan would cost half as much as the democrat plan, would have created twice as many jobs. this is on the original estimate. now it's probably 10 times as many jobs since they haven't created any jobs.

but we haven't tried to actually allow american families and small businesses to keep more of what they earn so they can get this economy going once again. when it comes to energy, washington democrats i think are poised to make matters by imposing a job-killing energy tax courtesy of speaker pelosi. this is going to force small businesses and their workers and families to pay more for electricity, gasoline, and other products that are made in america that have a high energy content. this bill will also cost 2.3 to 2.7 million americans their jo jobs. that's because high energy industries like the steel-making edge be located in the united states anymore. they're going to be shipped to our competitors in china, india, south korea, who don't even have half of the e.p.a. guidelines

and environmental guidelines that we have here in america. if you look at this chart, this is how this process will work. with the e.p.a. being in the middle, look at all of these different agencies that are involved. this is the most elaborate thing that i've seen. you know, i've been here awhile. and i've seen some pretty craze question things. but i have never seen anything this -- crazy things. democrats in rural america are going to have to make a real decision about whether they're going to stand with speaker pelosi and liberal special interests or whether they're going to stand with their constituents who are going to be punished by this ridiculous tax. listen, there's a big difference between san francisco and the heart land. al gore stands for higher electricity bills, higher gasoline prices, and shipping millions of jobs overseas. some of our members still remember his b.t.u. tax from 1993 where he tried this idea of

imposing this tax on all b.t.u.'s used in the country. a lot of democrat members got burnt on that vote. for those of you that might have been around. so it's no surprise that as quickly as al gore was invited to come to washington to help lobby on this, it seems that he was disinvited rather quickly. mark my words: the american people are going to remember this vote. this will -- this will be a defining moment in a defining vote in this congress. the real question is where are the democrats going to stand on this. house republicans have the better plan. that would produce more energy, more green energy, lower energy prices and actually do more to clean up the air than having this giant government bureaucracy as suggested by our friends across the aisle. on healthcare, the president again last night attempted to sell the democrats' government

takeover of our healthcare system. and even the president is backtracking on his clain that americans can keep the coverage that they have. do you all know the c.b.o. report the can bedy bill in the senate made it clear than 23 million americans would lose their coverage under the kennedy bill in the senate. we haven't seen yet the c.b.o. score on how many millions of american coverage under the house democrat bill, but i suggest the number will probably be higher. study shows that it could be up to 100 million americans could lose their coverage if this government option is part of their plan. listen. the american people want us to reform healthcare. they want it done in a bipartisan way. and they want us to do our best to reduce costs in this program. i don't think americans want a big government-run program. they don't want their care rationed. and they clearly don't think

they should be paying more. and all the proposals we've seen on healthcare are going to cost somewhere between 1 trillion and $2 trillion of new taxes on the american people to spend more on healthcare. most americans think they're already spending too much on healthcare, even the president said. you know, the problem with healthcare is they're spending too much. well, we are spending too much. i think republicans have a common sense proposal that will help reduce costs, help ensure that all americans have access to affordable health insurance. we ought to be doing these common sense things like lawsuit reform which we don't see in any democrat proposal because they worship at the altar of the trial bar. the trial lawyers in america. shouldn't do it. you know, a lot of estimates out there that say we could save $175 billion over the next five years if we had lawsuit reform as part of this. this is what the american people

want. find ways to make the system more efficient to bring down the cost so that it's more affordable for all americans. with that, i will be happy to take your questions. yes, ma'am. >> is there any doubt that this energy bill will pass when it comes up? >> first, let's not -- i don't know whether it's going to come up or not. rumors. they're clearly pushing to bring it up. but we'll see. i don't think they have the votes yet. >> you don't think they have the votes? >> no, i do not. >> what are you telling the g.o.p. monitors who have been meeting with them and considering voting nor their bill? >> i think most of our members, frankly and members on the other side of the aisle, have been talking about this issue for several years. clearly over the last six months there has been a lot to talk about this bill. so i don't -- members have a pretty good feel as to where they are. i doubt that there's very -- i think there's very few mrs