service and visited intelsat board. i do not think there is any reason to believe that there is any point to go to hyannis port -- the secret service had visited hyannis port. hold on. i have to get to reuters. . >> none that i know of. >> and what about the talk that the secretary of state may have gotten involved? do you know anything about that?

>> i don't know anything about that. i would direct you over there. dan. >> yes, on the new unit, the elite unit to question these terror suspects, what does the white house hope to get from this unit that it -- you know, information that couldn't have been garnered in other ways? >> well, for starters, i can confirm the washington post report is largely accurate, and that the president, at the consensus recommendation of his interagency task force on interrogations and detainees, did put in place a new group, the high-value interrogation group, which will be housed at the fbi. the director will report to the director of the fbi. and it'll bring together all the different elements of the intelligence community to get the best intelligence possible based on scientifically proven methods and consistent with the army field manual. the president's view is that intelligence gathering is best left to the intelligence community, and this is a way that the intelligence community can best operate, especially in these high-value instances. >> so there's a sense, then,

that what was in place before, other kinds of experts who were used to interrogate these suspects, this will be more efficient, you'll get better information? >> well, the president's view is that we can always work harder to protect the american people, and when he signed an executive order that put this task force in place to find new methods by which we can get more intelligence by scientifically proven means, he thought that they would be able to come up with a good plan in order to do just that. he has full confidence in this plan. and he's going to continue to support it going forward. >> and one other thing on afghanistan. is the president at all concerned that perhaps there are not enough troops on the ground to get the job done, as he really has ramped things up there? i mean, there's the sense that we don't have enough people on the ground there to get the job done. >> well, as the -- let me start

by saying that the men and women who serve the united states in afghanistan are performing courageously and bravely under the most dangerous conditions in the world, and the president appreciates their service and is humbled by it. and the reason that we're there is because the people who plotted and executed the attacks of 9/11 operate there still and are still plotting against us. and the reason that we're there is to stop them. the president put in place a strategy by which we would disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al qaeda and its extremist allies. and his view is that the -- when he laid out his policy earlier this year to put more troops on the ground, put a new strategy in place is a winning strategy. as you know, general mcchrystal has only been there for a short time. but he's undergoing a thorough review and assessment of the progress that we've made and what else we need to do in order to continue to make progress. so i think that we're going to hold off until we get that assessment back, not prejudge or predetermine based on reports

that are coming out of the region, and make a decision accordingly. chip. >> on the investigation of abusive interrogations, you referred us to the justice department. are you suggesting that the president will accept whatever recommendation the attorney general comes up with? >> i'm not just suggesting that. i'm saying that the president thinks that the decision of who to investigate and to prosecute is in his hands. >> and does the -- are you saying the white house has no role? is the white house now communicating with the justice department on that? has the president himself had any communications? >> when the president appointed attorney general holder to the job, he said specifically that he wanted him to be independent and he wanted the department of justice to be an independent entity. he has great faith in attorney general holder, but he ultimately is going to make the decisions. >> so it's completely hands off, absolutely up to the attorney general, no matter what the decision -- >> the decision is in the attorney general's hands. >> does the establishment of this group within the fbi mean that the cia is effectively out of the interrogation business? >> i'm sorry, say that again. >> does the establishment of this group within the fbi, under the fbi's purview, mean that the cia is out of the terror interrogation business? >> oh, no, absolutely not. the cia is obviously --

obviously has a very important role to play as it relates to interrogations. they've done a brilliant job in doing it so far, gathering intelligence. a lot of people don't know that half of the fbi's mission is actually to gather intelligence. so what this does is it houses all these different elements under one group where they can best perform their duties. the intelligence community is going to have a deputy who will be in that group, and obviously the cia will be very involved in this. >> sthe cia will have a seat at that table? >> yes. yunji. >> bill, what is the president doing to stay in front of the health care debate? he's out of the spotlight, obviously, out of washington, behind the scenes, playing golf. is he doing anything to maintain the message? >> well, as you know, there's no calls or meetings on his schedule right now. but i will say that he's obviously staying up to date with it. he's getting daily briefings,

and he's talking to advisers as appropriate. but back at the white house, you can bet that nancy-ann deparle and her team of folks is still working very hard to find some bipartisan consensus to move forward. >> but is there a concern that they might lose steam? i mean, the president obviously is the strongest advocate on that? >> i think that the president has a lot of faith in his team, and he also is due a little time to recharge his batteries with his family. so he's happy to be here in martha's vineyard. the health care debate i think is moving forward at a good clip. if you listen to what john mccain had to say yesterday on this week, he said there is broad agreement on some of the key things as it relates to health care from bringing down costs to getting more folks covered to not spending too much money to do it. so the president thinks that there is still a real possibility of getting a bipartisan plan through. he's going to continue to work towards that end. and right now -- he's probably at the golf course by now. >> you just said he's not -- there are no calls on the schedule, but we were told by another press guy -- blond guy, glasses -- that he would be making calls to individual

members of congress on health care. >> sure. but there's nothing on the schedule. he's going to do that as appropriate. and stay tuned. if there's any readouts on anything that he's doing, i'll be sure to keep you -- >> will you wait until the next day, or will you tell us right after that happens? >> we'll go case-by-case basis. >> senator kennedy, as you know, has asked the governor and the legislature to change the law to appoint someone to his seat if something should happen, if the seat is vacated for whatever reason. the big concern is about the health care vote, if it's close. is the president concerned at all about losing senator kennedy's vote, and what might happen if the senator's seat is vacated? >> i don't think that there are many people in the history of our country who've worked harder towards health care reform than senator kennedy. so obviously any support from senator kennedy is critically important. the issue that you brought up isn't one that he's discussed with senator kennedy. i don't know that we've had any

discussions, even on a staff level, with the governor of massachusetts. but that's something for folks in massachusetts to decide, not for the president to decide. >> but is he concerned if it's a very close vote? i mean, if it's a real close vote and the senator's vote isn't there, does that concern him? >> well, obviously, we'd like to get all the votes that we could for health care reform. the president would love to get 100 votes in the senate for health care reform. we're going to work towards getting as big a majority as possible in order to achieve exactly what the president is trying to achieve. but decisions like that, that you're talking about, are up to folks in massachusetts. >> there are some making an issue of the president, that his arrival was not open to the public, and that the public wasn't allowed in. i mean, how is the -- the president was obviously aware of the greeting that he got on the roads and everything, but how is he going to balance that out, the security, with the fact that people want to see him? >> well, as you know, when we were originally coming in and the reason we had to delay was there were real weather concerns over whether or not we could have a big public arrival when we got here. so i don't think we were able to organize something like that knowing that the weather was going to be in such tough shape. so the president -- as i said,

he really appreciates being here in martha's vineyard. folks have been very warm in welcoming him. he's been coming here for some 10 years now and he plans to come back. so hopefully, going forward, there will be some opportunities for him to be out in the public, but for right now he's just spending a little time with his family. >> is the foursome with congressman clyburn, i guess, is he the only member of congress who will be playing golf with him this week, or will there be other people visiting him throughout the week? and what's the president's relationship with mr. wolf? >> he's friends with mr. wolf. and right now that's the only member of congress he's scheduled to play golf with. you know, he's on vacation, so everything is a little bit loose. you know, you wake up, you have some breakfast, you workout, and then you decide, what do i feel like doing today? he's doing that just like anybody else. >> is he here specifically to play golf today? >> i'm pretty sure he was already here. >> bill, governor david paterson in new york has given a couple

interviews recently in which he said the criticism he's received as governor is racially based because we haven't reached a post-racial society. he suggests that governor deval patrick's problems are similarly based, and he said that president obama would be the next victim of this kind of bias in the media. does the white house agree with that assessment that the criticism of african american politicians is often racially based? >> the president's view is that -- and i'll be honest, we haven't been following that race with the sort of granularity where we might know the ins and outs of what's going on with david paterson. but i will say that we're obviously in close touch with governors from time to time. in terms of media coverage and the president, he thinks that there are a lot of people who agree with him in the media, there are a lot of people who disagree with him in the media, and there's a lot of folks who just report it straight.

whether or not race plays into that i don't think is the case. the president doesn't think it's the case. what he thinks is that there's a lot of people who have different opinions, and one of the great parts about the american tradition is that people are able to do that freely. and that's the sort of thing that makes our democracy so strong. it's major's birthday, so i'm going to go to him. (laughter.) and i understand that on your birthday you don't have to ask too many questions -- >> no, i don't. senator schumer has asked for a u.n. resolution condemning the release of megrahi. does the administration have any position on that, number one? and number two, there are reports that if ghadafi wants to see the president at the united nations general assembly in september, the white house has already decided that meeting will not happen? can you comment on either of those two? >> i don't know about schumer's resolution. i would suggest that you contact my good friend mark up in ambassador rice's office on that.

as for seeing ghadafi at the general assembly, as you know, this year ghadafi is the head of the general assembly, and so i assume that at some point they'll run into each other, but there is no scheduled meeting and no plans to schedule one. >> is anything with libya different now after the megrahi welcome than it was before? >> the president's view is that, as you've seen members of his administration say, from robert gibbs to robert mueller, it was disgusting to see a convicted terrorist welcomed the way that he was in libya. so obviously the president feels like that was a particularly bad idea, that they shouldn't have done -- that we said beforehand -- that they should not have done. but in terms of our relationship, we'll just work on a case-by-case basis on whatever is appropriate going forward. >> senator lieberman said over the weekend it might be worthwhile -- the white house's while to start over on health care. what's your reaction to that? >> i think a lot of folks have a lot of different opinions. we're dealing with 535 members

of congress, some of which this weekend, like john mccain, said that there is great agreement. kent conrad said there also is great agreement. we think that the reason we've been able to make more progress on health care than any other president in the last 60 years is because the american people are foursquare behind getting something done. costs have gotten to a point where they're completely out of control. and the president's view is that until we get costs under control, until we get health care reform passed in this country, we're not going to be able to get everybody covered, we're not going to be able to get in place the kind of insurance reforms that the american people need, like not losing your health insurance just because you get sick, not being able to be stopped by getting health insurance because you have a preexisting condition. and so the president feels like the process we've got moving forward is a good one. we've already gotten the support of doctors and nurses, hospitals. aarp has said that they are for health care reform. the president feels good about the progress that we've been able to make, and we're going to continue to move towards getting

a bill done and getting health care reform passed this year. >> what's your surrogate activity this week? >> i don't exactly know. i will get back to you on that. >> bill, what kind of challenge does the administration face with half of its senior positions not being confirmed by the senate yet? >> i saw that report in the new york times today, and i will say that what it missed was the fact that it's possible to slice presidential appointees in a whole bunch of different ways, and the way that that report did it specifically made it look like actually we're not doing very well. but if you compare where this president is to the most recent previous presidents, we're actually far ahead of where they were when it comes to presidential appointees. now, are there individual frustrations along the way, like the fact that congressman mchugh is being held up for partisan purposes and not able to serve in his job as secretary of the army, which people broadly think that he is able to do capably? sure, absolutely. but if you look at the progress we've been able to make in this administration in just seven months, from what we've done on

the auto industry, what we've done on the financial industry, to iraq, to afghanistan, to children's health care, to stem cell research, to equal pay -- we've been able to do a whole lot. and the president is confident in his team and the team that he's putting together in order to continue to make the progress that he promised on the campaign trail. >> but just comparing it to other administrations, maybe they had problems, too. i mean, is it making the job harder when half of these positions are unfilled? >> like i said, i think that that report did not accurately reflect the fact that there actually are a lot more folks in our administration and the pace is a lot quicker than it had been in previous administrations. so the president's view is, do we have some more hiring to do? sure. but are we able to make a lot of progress with the team that's in place right now? absolutely. so i think that, moving forward, the president feels good about his team and is going to continue to put together a

strong team. >> (inaudible) in confirming these positions? >> in some cases. but there's other cases like congressman mchugh that i mentioned, for secretary of army, where the answer is no. sir. >> why does the administration seem to be so thin-skinned with regard to fox news? >> thin-skinned -- that's interesting. i wouldn't say that we're thin- skinned. i would say that we appreciate that there are people not just at fox, but in all aspects of the media who are -- who come to this with sometimes very sharp opinions, sometimes very tough questions, and the president has, in the past, obviously been happy to take tough questions, and the administration certainly has. we've appeared with conservatives with michael smerconish as recently as this week. the president has appeared with chris wallace, even bill o'reilly. so the president welcomes a vigorous debate.

he hopes that people keep an eye on the facts, as they're having it, but i don't know what you would base that assertion on, frankly. >> it just seems to be singled out a lot of the times, especially with regard to cable chatter. some people consider that maybe code for the fox news channel? >> oh, really? where do you think they've been singled out? >> i don't know. it seems like it's been mentioned by gibbs, by the president himself, and by others. >> when? >> over the course of the last six months. >> fox news? >> yes, the fox news channel. and it just seems like on a number of occasions -- >> i'm not sure i agree with the premise of your questions. >> it seems like in a number of occasions we've been singled out for maybe being a little more critical than some of the other cable networks, some of the other media outlets. is that a strategy or is that some -- is that more haphazard? >> yes, like i said, i don't agree with the premise of your question, and so i wouldn't really know how to answer it. sir. >> could you address the sort of complaints from republicans (inaudible) nrcc -- is this really the best time for the man leading it all to be sipping wine (inaudible). >> who's that release from, i'm sorry? >> nrcc. >> nrcc. as i recall, the previous president actually had taken quite a bit a vacation himself, and i don't think that anybody

bemoaned that or bemoans this president trying to take some time with his family to recharge his batteries and get ready for the fight ahead. he's obviously worked very hard this year, as have some members of the staff. i don't know about all of them; i know tommy is in flip-flops today. but i think the president feels good about the progress that we've been able to make, but i think that it's important for the president, just like it is for any other individual, to take a little time, spend it with their family, recharge their batteries, so they're ready for the final push for the year. >> you mentioned surrogate activities and phone calls, that there were none set today and you didn't know of surrogate activities going forward. is it possible that we'll go

several days without any of these sorts of activities? and also, following up on chip, are you going to let us know in advance or after these things take place? >> if the president decides to pick up the phone and call a member of congress, i'm not going to let you know in advance. but i will encourage you to stay in touch, talk to reid cherlin about any surrogate activity that's happening this week. but we'll keep you posted on any information about -- >> so it is possible we'll go for several days without -- with him just relaxing and not doing any of these activities? >> sure. christi. >> bill, over the weekend, senator lieberman made the argument that there may be a good moral argument for expanding coverage, health care coverage, but not a good economic one right now. could you respond to that, and also say whether you think that might be a concern (inaudible) starting to creep through congress? >> well, i didn't see senator lieberman's remarks, so i can't respond directly to that. but on the economic argument for health care reform, i think it's pretty clear -- and the president has been talking about it for quite some time -- that if we don't get costs under control, the way that

they're going up is causing the health insurance industry to shed tens of thousands of americans each month as a result of rising costs. and those higher costs are causing medicare and medicaid and state-run health care programs to create budgetary problems that are just fiscally unsustainable. so the president's view is that health care reform is important for health care's sake. but if you look at the long-term fiscal health in this country, it's critically important, as well. >> can i ask, now that he's here, can you give us more insight as to why the president chose to come to martha's vineyard as opposed to any place else? and can you give us an assessment of his level of desire to in some way engage the public here? because, as you know, there is a lot of -- a lot of desire sort of for them to be seen in some public setting. >> sure. the president has been coming to martha's vineyard for some 10 years. he's probably been five or six times over the course of that time period. he enjoys it. it's comfortable. the beaches are nice.

the people are particularly nice. there's really good food to eat. (laughter.) if you're lucky and you go down to the sand pit [sic] on a sunday night, charlotte is singing. there's a lot of great things about martha's vineyard. and the president enjoys coming here, and he probably will continue to. in terms of engaging the public, if he decides to put anything like that on the schedule -- be it a public event or just going out for dinner or anything like that -- we'll be sure to let you know. >> are they interested in doing anything? >> his desire in martha's vineyard is to get a little break. he certainly appreciates the hospitality of the folks who are here. but his desire here is to relax and spend time with the family.

all right, just last one. mike. >> do you know if he's got any plans to host any sort of big dinner or anything at his place with other folks on the island? >> no. at this point, there's no plan for that. i wouldn't foreclose that notion. but there's no plan for that right now. >> tomorrow, a discussion on the will of immigration and other raw wedge issues in modern politics. a washington post columnist is among the panelists. live coverage begins at noon eastern. later in the day, we will get an update on the presidential election in afghanistan which was held last week. no official results have been released as votes continue to be counted. live coverage begins at 3:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. >> how is c-span fund? >> private donations. >> taxpayers. >> grants and stuff like that.

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he will give a presentation on russia and china. he is a member of the foreign military studies office that works under the doctrine command. the command conducts analytical programs focusing on asymmetrical threats that includes issues that define evolving operational environments around the world. please go ahead. >> good afternoon, everyone. like several of our other speakers, also had the pleasure, years ago to meet and work with

mary fitzgerald. clearly, her work on military affairs really began a lot of the discussion on information technologies. as richard mentioned, i am out at fort leavenworth. our office is called for military studies office. in 1985, we were founded as the soviet army studies office and as the world changed, we changed as well. however, for those of you that are familiar with the soviet army studies office and some of the officers in the military, a lot of those faces still remain out there. our director is now tom wilhelm.

mr. less brown is still there. -- mr. les brown is still there. we have mr. scott anderson looking closely at chinese hackers. roberts looks at your -- rob curtis looks at europe. some things have not change of fort leavenworth. we still have a lot of prisons. you will notice you were near fort leavenworth if you go to the kansas city airport and you see a t-shirt that says leavenworth penitentiary, a gated community. what i would like to discuss

today are some of the consequences of the georgian/russian conflict. i am also prepared, if anybody has questions about chinese information warfare techniques, tactics, whatever, i will answer those questions as well. interestingly enough, there seems to be very little confrontation between the russians and chinese in the information area. we see that mostly from china, those alleged attacks that you read about. they hit every country except russia, significantly. there may be a reason, there. i am actually want to divide this talk about the consequences into three parts. the first part, i will give you

a definition from a russian perspective of the information warfare. i will tell you what i see as the three theories and practices in russia. i will talk about some of the lessons learned and the consequences of those lessons learned from the georgian/russian conflict. then i want to conclude with a few comments about some other cyber related terms that seem to have evolved out of this conflict, such as a cyber capabilities, cyber maneuver, and some of you may have read an article entitled "george's silent what took a -- left hook.

here is a russian definition of information warfare. this is from april 2009. information warfare is a conflict among states in the information space with the objective of inflicting damage on information systems and resources and the critically important structures. this really covers what we refer to overtime as the information technical component. they have always broken information warfare into two parts, information technical and information psychological. the rest of the definition goes, undermining the social systems and massively brainwashing troops and the population with the objective of destabilizing in any society and the state as a whole. there is this information psychological and information technical aspect.

we have broken this down into different pillars at one point in time. we have been readjusting our definitions accordingly. but the russians have stayed pretty stable with their information technical and information psychological aspects. also of note was the statement. the mission of information warfare is to destroy the foundations of national self awareness and the way of life of the opposing side. there is quite a focus, it seems, on this information psychological aspect as well. especially for a country that lost its illogical foundation. now, the three levels but i would break them down into what i call the international level and in the military level. for years, i was there for the

past 15 years, at the international level, and the russians have really pushed the united nations trying to formalize the u.n. approach to the permission of warfare -- to information warfare. in okinawa, in geneva, and so on and so forth. they are also running to conferences so, there really is an interesting international bush that they have to try to discuss this issue and bring it out for a wider audience. domestically, they have a program called electronic russia that they have been working on for a number of years.

you have to ask how you information liealize. in 2008, the put together a doctrine for the development of an information society in russia. they have been quite active overtime in both international and domestic level in writing very formalized doctrine. the other document that steve alluded to was a national security strategy. surely there was an imperative there. we saw, in 2007, the appointment of the minister of

information technology and communications. after -- he was one of the consequences. they replaced them. he is now acting deputy minister of defense. at the very top level, they had a change that occurred quite rapidly. i was looking through a few articles before i came here just to try to give you a flavor for what is happening here. here are a few of them. prime minister putin put

together a policy. he saw some shortcomings that we will discuss in the second. the second thing that occurred was that there were several articles, one by a man who has been nbc. this is mostly the cognitive side. there certainly was a huge discussion about this cognitive morale. third, in april 2009, one of the generals in charge said that the information war is a future challenge. we had the head of the communications troops call for a unified system.

in july, president maduabebe developed strategic technology. he said that we should talk to others. in july, there was a long series of articles there were civilians being appointed. another july article said that the armed forces is another

russian general. as you can see, there was a whole list of developments on the military side that have occurred recently. and these really seem to be the most significant. the first is -- they are now talking about putting up systems to do e-mail intercepts and secret communications. not that they do not happen already, and the second plane is the development of command-and-

control resources. that is something that mary fitzgerald royal about. in this country, we have another name for it. they do not feel they have gotten those components which requires a global satellite positioning system to the level that it needs to be. the third thing is the other issue. within russia, there are some domestic issues.

the ministry of internal affairs. they are asking why we can have them. we were caught short. those seem to be the three most significant areas that the russians are focused on at the moment. the other thing that developed after this conflict, we saw some people writing in their military journals. whenever the russians talk about theaters, we know it is on a massive scale. i will read you what the definition was it is unified by

any name and plan. it would accomplished strategic objectives of war. software and electronics strikes, systematic actions and this is the most important. it gains a central control. as well as task forces and ordered to disorganize the government and military administration. if you go back in time, of a lot of -- if you go back in time,

when they talk about gaining superiority, the way to do that is to disorganize the other side's force. just attaining informational security is not enough. they say time and again that you have total security were no one was shooting at you. yet, you could not employ your weapons. when you did, you would see a tank in the daytime. the serbs were able to disorganized. somebody could still fool your systems. one other thing they had to say our operational tasks.

those tasks are disorganized. the damage to its economic potential and conduct intelligence operations. they are fairly intelligent. this is the idea of survivor -- cyber maneuvering. what is important is how neutrals can be pulled into some conflicts if there is not illegal parameter. in the example that they're talking about, when the initial attack was shut down, the georgians looked to pull into the united states in order to

reestablish communications. the question became this cyber maneuvering to a neutral and if that mitchell supported that, did involve that in the conflict? in the case with georgia, the georgians were using commercial sites in the united states. it is doubtful our government knew that was taking place. a nation could be poole then and not even understand. there certainly are a number of issues that came up that we need to explore in the near future. perhaps we'd better crisis management system, one that has a special section between countries on cyber issues.

that was certainly one that could have gotten out of control. in conclusion, there are issues that you should be aware of. remember that there is a big infrastructure that the russians created on the theory side. they are very good at that. they do an excellent job of putting this stuff together. i have some excellent mathematicians. if we are down to the 20's and 30's. it may take only a couple of good software writers, and one where you can do it is taking control of someone else's

resources. >> a thank you. >> he was kind enough to send us his paper. dr. blake is very familiar with his work. >> j.k. is going to be retiring as dean of the school military studies. he was a leading member for many years. for all that study this, he has been a mentor in the field and works very closely with mary. in a consequence of the

relationship, he has written a paper on the concept of operational art. it is entitled operational art. since he is still with the army, they represent -- the term has come in the last generations. this brought to all of us an understanding. operational art has to be

understood, and it has a long and providence as far as historians are concerned. he used all the forces, not just to the tactical battles, but to use battles as a basis to to achieving the objectives. it means bringing all the instruments of power together. the origins of the term it to be traced back. whether one looks at napoleon's battles, where napoleon drove his -- from the field, that

individual battle does not bring a campaign to an end. it is no accident that napoleon fails treated he will finally have defeated them in a decisive battle. from that. the -- from that time friend on, there were modern means of communication and control and intelligence. in u.s. strategy of the civil war, you have all the parties.

we see them using something like this as well. we get into the whole concept. somehow, until we get to world war one, the problem is converting tactical gains. failure to do so leads to rest -- leads to a still but -- leads to a stalemate. the germans still lost the war despite overrun western russia. it was developed -- the most outstanding -- for those who

want further elaborations on the subject, i would recommend to you the author who is a military thinker. a couple of years ago, he started quoted folks that nobody knew. the idea being that we need to understand how to use operational. the term comes into favor in the 1980's. in the '80s, the army's focus shifts back.

the army wanted to forget vietnam. it did not want to deal with grow worse again. it refocus its energies on what we call for armed forces attacked and on the integration into the middle military is of the first generation of precision guided weapons that was coming on board. this is the series of weapons that were foreseen in vietnam that led him of -- that would transfer he was urging the soviet union to make the leap forward to the generation. they also argued for this.

nonetheless, the concept of operational art was developed in the u.s.. they took concepts like the operations. we wrote on operation desert storm and we all got confirmation from the soviets that from their point of view, we were implementing the soviet attack planned for europe. this is important because the next generation military thinkers have grappled with what they expected the future wars. the armed forces of the two sides did not come into contact

with each other. you do not have force on forcing engagements. you have long-range cruise strike capabilities. that is the preoccupation of these men carry it they saw nato do this in kosovo. but seldom do it in iraq and the original offensive. it completely dumbfounded russian military analysts who had no idea we could do something like that with ground forces. they expected a coastal attack -- echoes of all -- a kosovo attack. they did not predict the kind of a conventional strikes that have

materialized since then. nonetheless, the term operational art is system analysis. if you're dealing with large will tour forces -- large military forces, you need to think about military systems in system logical terms. he traces the evolution of this term through the 19th century and into the soviet period. it had been suppressed by stalin. he had him murdered. he enshrined his own thinking as the ultimate in military wisdom. the soviets learned how to do

deep operations in world war two. and typically the manchurian style became the template for them. they have begun to understand that technology led to the collapse. this is political, not just military. they were being superseded by new developments. we materialized that concept in 1991 and 1999 may be in 2003 as well as jenna pointed out -- -- 2003 as well. as kate pointed out -- as jake pointed out that this should not be confused.

they are not according people like that in their riding. they are talking about noncontact wars. the next war could be strictly an information warfare campaign. it is not inconceivable that you could have that. this whole concept of setting up theaters to wage these wars intercepts the perception that new technology requires that kind of organization. kim's case would be the theater of strategic action. and they saw this as leading to space for and weapons would be in space or from space.

therefore, this needed to be counted. the point of this is that the russian military tradition, although it has suffered grievously and does not produced anything in the past 40 years, is nonetheless a live. there are new types of warfare and it is a rich tradition. it is a tradition that needs to be understood. this is in terms of a broader society. these types of art is the

thought process i >> b one to te comments or go straight? >> what coaster to questions and answers again. still free to e-mail me the dominics to you? >> i am bob miller. this is a question for tom thomas.

does the current concept extend into there? if so, how? >> >> i would imagine that it does. the evidence in russia is less clear than it is. it is just not as numerous as it is. when you look at russian society, you see the role of packers increasing in their hair was some and their public image. there was an old soviet film where they had a jeannie come out of the bottle. this young kid would show all

the benefits of a soviet system. the updated that version, now. when the genie comes out of the bottom -- the bottle, he needs a hacker. it shows how corrupt a lot of society has become. so, the put a whole new spin on this ancient and very popular soviet film from the past. certainly, with what we saw in estonia and then in georgia, we know that there are groups of people who are interested in hacking. the came out with some description of loggers. we know that there are -- these were not people from the kremlin. these are just folks who wanted to gain some type of notoriety.

there are people who are interested and hiking. if you really want to read, they have their own journals. . . .

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[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> once the dust settles " -- from the last unsuccessful test, they will decide that they will fix that because we do not have a choice, and eventually russia will fix this. part of the problem is their own exploitation, every time that there's a car they start to give little announcements to the media, about another great victory. as the chief designer of this, they launched one of the missiles, many of them did fly and no one would talk about them. they also, in order to save money and time, they would skip

on some of the testing, and they were promising miracles, which is what happened -- what happens with the defense industry. regarding the condition of the defense industry, the basic problem is that this is lost in transition. there are big chunks of the russian industrial network -- the soviet network that are in the market economy. and there are enormous possibilities for individuals to build up something in the cayman islands, and you have to have the educational system and all of these things because money is not enough. this is a major effort. and i think that you deserve some magic and we will have a role -- revelation.

we talked about the classified section on nuclear weapons. i will tell you what will be there. the same thing. there will probably be some things from -- the numbers of systems that we know anyway. there can be nothing serious about the defense doctrine. this is not the operational plan. there is nothing that can be said about this. this is only working one way. how do americans do this? they classify this -- and this gets more interest. the russians may have a trump

card up their sleeve. that is my magic for the day. >> this is a good pal to get your comments on. >> one quick thing, it is of interest that the largest combatant that they will build -- is a 4,600 ton forget -- frigate. >> he is turning over in his grave. but they more they talk about his sacred memory, the more they try to do the reasonable thing. >> i heard a story about his grave stone but that is later. >> first -- this is not

indicated to be nuclear. i searched as deeply as a person can go. and there is no indication of a nuclear warhead. if they say anything, they say that they now have accuracy and do not need this. they have three batteries, and these are for the different military districts. the other thing i would say, i remember sitting in his office in 1963 when he paid a visit, and that it was shocking when the russians discovered that the nuclear bombs were not just

another form of artillery. the russians accepted every concept as we had known it, and this was reaffirmed in my in- laws discussions. so i think that your basic analysis of this scenario -- this is wild. i do not know if we can get the russians to say all of these things. they know that nuclear bombs -- they simply are not useful, they can only destroy something. and all this talk, year after year -- nobody would know that we have broken the nuclear threshold.

and just after we say that you can use a few weapons -- if there is a massive retaliation, they think that we would attack massively. we all need to investigate the concept of deterrence. there is not anyone who seems to understand this anymore. >> my sources are to what the russians themselves say. i have seen where they have spoken about lowering the threshold for nuclear usage in 1999, where they implied that nuclear weapons may be used in

the interest of the survival of the russian federation. i do think that they believe in this, i think that their concept is the same as wolfgang, who is famous for a 1970's article and for them, strategic stability is the united states and russia locked together, and no side should be allowed to get a decisive strategic advantage over the other. and that they are put together to deter attacks on each other. i think that in many contingency plans, that they have in many scenarios, they think that they will have to go first, and they

will have to drop a nuclear bomb to force people to go back to the table. i think the -- they believe that nuclear weapons can be used in a war. and if you look at the statements out of the u.s. military, there are contingencies that say that we do as well. >> the reason that he said what he said, is that this is not up to the military. >> the decision to launch a nuclear weapon is taken by the supreme command authority. the minister of defense will not be the person making this decision. but nonetheless, the options are there. >> i have a question over the internet, about the chance of

the russian navy, i think that these are good, and what we see right now is hard ball on both sides. each side is seeking this -- and you had not seen any destruction? >> i have not seen anything in the last 58 years, so i would not know. i would guess that this would be some time. and this is always expensive to construct a base. and if you put yourself in the place of russian politicians and military officers, they have to invest in something, and that the officers may go without housing in the north. there was a short window in 2007

and 2008 where they thought the money would be rolling in. in the oil is there but this is $115 a barrel. >> they can only break even -- >> i heard that this was 68. >> this fluctuates. >> what i have read says that building another -- i have never been there and i do not know what this means. but the question all depends on who is president. in january we will have a new president, of the ukraine, and we will see what happens. i am of the opinion that the russians will have to leave and not everyone is thinking this way. many people in the russian government are not happy about

this for different motives, but i cannot see the ukraine tolerating a russian base -- with all of the security problems that this would pose for them. >> i will just say -- it depends on who will be the president, but whoever is the president, in moscow they do not understand very well. this is not how it works. the only possibility of keeping that base -- this is not a possibility. that would have to pay a lot of money to the ukraine and keeping quiet, something that the kremlin has not been doing very well. they escalated this issue.

political and existential conflict instead of saying, instead of putting -- minimizing the issue to a ratio of money. and as long as they make a political deal of it, they will not tolerate the military base. if this is driven down to the issue of paying that much money -- this may be a different story but i do not see that happening just yet. i see quite the opposite. >> and there may not be anything left. >> this is a difficult question. >> there are many c-span questions. just take notes and answered what you feel are best suited to your interests. one microphone here and one back

there. >> i had a question about the arctic forces of russia. how much is this going to cost? and how realistic is this? will this be part of the navy or another separate force? >> are there other questions? please keep your hands up so we can give you the microphone. >> what about the warheads in a tactical war? >> my question also deals with this. the arctic fleet would be better than investing money in the black sea. >> my question is one of the big lessons of the 21st century --

prevents the coercion from the outside states. if that is the case, some of the other states around russia may decide that they want nuclear weapons to prove it -- prevent coercion. >> the questions that we received over the internet, what are the security implications of the energy policies? can russia provide them with energy security and the need for the blue water navy of china and japan? and what about the hijacking in the arctic sea? that is a good one. and russian leaders who are representative whose reputation is more positive than negative may improve the russian navy -- is there any remnant of john

paul jones on the navy doctrine. i think that is everything that i see. are there any other questions? there was one earlier for this session. there was one about the submarines of the u.s. coast, what was the intention and how did this play out? in the last question, what can he say about the nuclear stockpile? please answer what you feel most comfortable with, >> on the security of the warheads, the fact of the matter is there has not been any substantive evidence of any sale of nuclear

warheads, there have been people attempting to sell nuclear material, radioactive material, from time to time but they have been caught. i do not want to sound cynical, but i suspect that the russians are doing a good job guarding those materials. i think they understand how essential that this is that they should be guarded. there are organizations who want a budget about this, and are constantly beating the drum about the threat, i do not know if this is more important than this. i have not seen any evidence that the nuclear stockpile in russia, that they are at risk of being smuggled out of the country.

this is an awfully corrupt place. there is that. the submarines of the u.s. coast were there for two purposes, to let us know that they were in business and so the navy can say that they can perform important missions for the state. we are important, and we show the united states they cannot do what they please. let me talk about china and japan. i do not even know that the russians will be able to have enough energy in the future for the domestic market. this is where the demand has been rising. unless the russians change their way of doing business and invest more in the development of their own infrastructure, they will have to go to china and japan to get loans unless they find

american properties or british petroleum, willing to give this to them. the japanese will not give the money, for the islands and because the japanese have very little confidence in russian business practices. lithified natural gas, maybe. they are going to japan and this may actually work. but that is not enough for japan. they are investing all over the world. they do not want to be tied excessively to russia, and the experience of negotiating with russia has not been that great. i think the influence on -- of john paul jones is only in memory. >> let me say a couple of things, on the submarines i

think this is public relations. using this for public relations is -- this is a bad idea because once it surfaces, this is failed. it is bad for them to be doing nothing, we will let them deployed far away from home, good for the morale. as far as the arctic forces, one of the members of the audience noticed doing anything in the arctic is enormously expensive. i do not see any ground forces that are there. there is nothing for them to do. as i have said, they will try to

find more ships like the size of this, for the northern fleet to protect this zone, but -- they plan to buy more ballistic missile submarines. i do not see any other major plants. the it vantage is there. they have the knowledge of the arctic and the conditions and the ocean, and what they can build, they have 20 icebreakers, they can keep on building. this was by the shipbuilding

corp., and by another state holding. if they really open the navigation, this gives them a significant economic and advantage, and it will change the geopolitical situation in the far east. this is still supplied by one railroad, which is not very good. i think the russians will understand this. and this is something with the black sea fleet. with the budget process the navy gets a pile of money, and they have to figure out what will go where. they have been told that the black sea is important. but this is related to the

economy. the admiral said that they will buy the ships from abroad. russia -- they got ships in the 1930's, and they were using the bounty -- but this is not a return to the tradition from before 1917 -- 17, where they had to buy the ships. they exported raw materials. and this is kind of retarding to that. if you begin to buy the ships, this and the other weapons systems are cooperating -- this will be affecting the foreign policy and the national security policy. you cannot be proclaimed as a

threat. this is not going to work very long. >> the last questions about nuclear weapons -- this is unlikely. this is prevented in many states. we are banning them from having nuclear weapons. >> they do not want them. >> this is enormously expensive. >> please, join me in thanking the panelists and i want to thank everyone who came today, i want to thank the people who came in this morning so early, and to -- who will help me clean up the conference room. >> thank you very much.

[unintelligible] >> you are watching public affairs programming. next, nick jonans on juvenile diabetes. then rising health care costs from the rand corporation. on "washington journal," the decision to look into cia interrogation and spending. "washington journal" starts at

7:00. >> carrie johnson on cia interrogations and the decision to review them. daniel domenech will review the study on stimulouus money. then barry ritholtz on "bailout nation." >> go inside the supreme court to see the public spaces and rarely seen spaces. the justices talk about the building. the supreme court, the first sunday in october on c-span. now singer, songwriter, and actor nick jonas, who spoke about juvenile diabetes. this is 55 minutes.

>> thank you, donna and members of the national press club. it is an honor to be here. i was diagnosed with type one diabetes in 2005. i had lost 15 pounds in three weeks. i was thirsty all the time and my attitude changed. i am a positive person and this changed in a few weeks. the normal range of blood sugar is between 7120, my blood sugar was 700. my doctor said i had type 1 diabetes. the first cast as if i would die.

she said, i would not. but you will have to live with this for the rest of your life. we went right to the hospital. i would spend the next three days, and i learned about getting my blood glucose level in control and the diabetes. i wondered what good could come out of this, how can i turn this into something that could encourage and inspire other people. it was not there. it began to rain, lightning strikes and you think, where is the good? and it just was not there. like something out of a movie, you feel bad for the character but you never think that this will be you.

that was me on that night. as i looked to my dad -- as i looked to my dad, in my moment of frustration and disappointment, i thought that something good could come out of this. we are on a journey that will take us to places that i cannot even begin to imagine. this last february we performed with stevie wonder. moments where you have to pinch yourself, to even begin to feel the reality in this. i knew that was coming on sunday, and i said that enough is enough and you cannot feel sorry for yourself and i made a commitment but i would not let this slow down. it has been an incredible

journey, and at my young age, i know you say, he is still a child. but that night i was a child with a dream. i was not going to let diabetes slummy down. and it has not slowed me down. there are times when blood sugar is high or low, you could say that i would like to have a day off from this. it does not work like this. when i meet the kids who say that i have inspired them, i will laugh and say, that is hard to believe. when i share my story, this is just what happened. to think that this could inspire someone is an amazing thing.

it is crazy to think that a song that i wrote, a little bit longer, is something that helps someone, somewhere. one day my blood sugar was out of range and this was a tough day. but the song came so easily. this was there before me, in that moment. but last night -- i met 10 kids with diabetes who said that that song touched them and it is hard to believe. i always had a hard for helping others and i have been given a platform to encourage and inspire people living with diabetes. reaching out and sharing my story is one way to give back to others. we give to organizations that

help children. last year we rage -- we raised $1 million for charities that are close to our hearts. this included diabetes research and camps. i have been an ambassador for young people with diabetes, and the goal that we have is to encourage and inspired children with every day victories in managing diabetes. each day i accomplish things i would not be able to do without my family and my friends. everyday i need to monitor my blood sugar. i need to test this 10 or 12 times a day. when i am visit, other people

can carry around the tools to make certain i will be able to test. i have won the dog tag to let people know i have diabetes. i want to create something that anyone can use to support people with diabetes. this happened when i began the program last november. proceeds from each of these -- and another program allows young people to express their victories through the online contest, inviting young people with diabetes to demonstrate their simple when. this can be a demonstration of a song lyric, a drawing or painting or any other form of creativity. so far we have had the monthly winner since april -- and you may have seen the video submissions coming in today.

in september i will select the grand prize winner, and the partnership has made an impact on my life but on the lives of so many people with diabetes. this is through the ongoing support of the change for the children foundation. i am so grateful for everything that they have done to help us reach our goals. i want to thank all of you for coming here today. i see many familiar faces life -- i have found during my efforts to raise awareness on diabetes. we want to make people feel supported and less alone. i would like to welcome her back up to speak on the partnership.

>> i want to do this. this looks fun. good afternoon. i am the regional head of diabetes care in north america. i cannot think of a more fitting place to share your story and the historic national press club, and there is no better group of people to share this with than the people who put out the news. a couple of years ago we took notice ofnic nick jonas, who mae public that he had diabetes and we were impressed with how open he was with this news. we saw the family and how they embraced the diabetes to support him. we spoke about partnering with them, to help people with

diabetes and we were thrilled when he said yes. it was in august when we announced the partnership and we continue to be amazed by the number of children and adults who are impacted by diabetes. it is clear that when he talks about diabetes, people listen. until there is a cure the greatest weapon is increased awareness and knowing how to manage this. the work that they are doing together enables young people to connect with his experience. there are small and every day victories that can lead to big differences over time. he has come into his role as a diabetes ambassador. we could not be more proud about how he has touched so many

lives, raising money for treatment and awareness, and a key element of the partnership that has proven to be a very successful fund-raising tool is a gift to you today. hopefully you were all given a dog tag when you came in. he designed these, similar to what's he wears, and these are available for a $5 donation, with all the money going to change for the children. this has raised $75,000 and thousands of people are showing their support by wearing them. there was an initial donation of $100,000 to the change for the children foundation. in celebration of the ongoing commitment, i am pleased to

present you with this. this is for the jonas brothers change for the children foundation. i am very proud to work with you. [applause] >> are you done with your speech? >> ok. we will go to the many questions that you have for him, and the first one comes from a 16 year- old who was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes at age 12. you serve as an inspiration to those of us living with juvenile diabetes. how did she make the decision to share this very personal struggle with the public and what were some of the things that you had to think about before you went public?

>> the main thing is making certain that i have this under control before i talked about this publicly. i continued to learn on my own with my family how to manage my diabetes, and to feel comfortable speaking in front of people. >> you probably had to go to the doctor, many kids are very scared about going to the doctor. how do you get yourself ready to go? >> i have a great doctor and she has been a great supporter of me and everything that i am trying to do. i think that you just have to do this. i would try to choose a finger -- i would have to do this once a year. the being selective when away when i had to do this 10 or 12

times. she is a great dr. and i am always happy to see her. >> are you the only one in your family with diabetes? >> my grandfather has tied tw well diabetes. i am the only one right now -- i hope they do not get this. it could happen but if they do i will be right there, helping them every step of the way. >> is it hard for you to talk about your diabetes? do you ever want more privacy? >> there are times when i keep things to myself. for the most part, i try to be as open as possible. i know what it is like to feel

alone because i did not know anyone who have this. this means the world and i am happy to do this. >> stress is known to make the city -- the symptoms worse. how you cope with your exciting but potentially stressful schedule? >> there are times when this is hectic but you have to take this one step at a time. you have to make certain that you have the right tools and can take care of this, and everyone is watching out for you and they are right there with you every step of the way. >> can you tell me how your family supports you, and supports you in managing your diabetes? >> one thing i say is that diabetes is not something that affects the individual but the entire family. it is important that everyone is

educated, in the staff that we have around. they all know how to take care of a problem, it is important to have people around to help you get through this. >> you mentioned that you were scared when you first found out that you had diabetes. what were the other motions and how you feel now, when you have to do this to your finger? >> my concern is that i would have to drink diet coke, i am ab drinker of soda. but this was disappointing but i got over this. i cannot get enough of this right now. it was rough at first. >> what is your favorite food? >> i always have to be very careful as much as i would like

to have cake, i will have to hold off on this. when it comes to food, i am a steak eater. i like to have a steak. [laughter] >> fruit, too. big fruit fan. >> my son is a diabetic and he has the same pump. do you wear your pod and have your pdm during performances. >> i use the first tubeless pump. i do not use the meter on stage. we wear tighter pants right now. [laughter] i did not know i was being this funny. i am just being honest.

>> how do you know if you have too little sugar? >> i feel a difference if this is high or low. making certain that i checked regularly -- regularly is important. my mother is usually on me about making certain that i am good before i go on stage. making certain that you have good people around you. >> what do you keep for emergency snacks? >> make certain that there is always orange juice and apple juice, just in case there is a low level. everyone has something at any given moment, in case there is a problem. we are all prepared for the situation. >> what is a typical day for you? >> a typical day for us -- this has been a light schedule and we

have been able to go out of different cities for more than one night, which is nice. we will get up about 7:00 and we will do press or i will play golf. and then you go to the city that we played that night, we have a sound check party, we answer questions and we have a couple of meat and greets, and then we do all of this over again. >> because you have to prick your finger so often, how does this affect how you play your instruments? >> with my doctor -- when he first checked my blood sugar on november 16, 2005, she asked which finger, and i was being selected because i am and guitar player.

after a minute, she said, just give me your finger. we will probably have to do this a few more times. i think trying to switch this up, sometimes you hit a spot but this is good. >> how much of your time to use spent checking on your blood sugar? >> there were five! after this? thank you. how many times a day? about 10 or 12 times a day. i have been good about this lately, and this came down substantially which is excellent. >> what are the down sides to having diabetes and have you missed out on anything that you wanted to do because of diabetes? >> there are some things i have

to be cautious about, sports, making certain i do not go too hard before the show. just making certain i keep this in control before we go on stage. >> is it hard to manage your diet and watch the food that you eat when you are on tour and traveling? >> it was a little bit difficult in the beginning. now we have our own catering, so they give me the carbohydrates and let me know what is in the food so i can manage this. it goes back to what i set about making certain that everyone is aware. when it comes to diabetes, i have to let other people help me manage this, or else this could get out of hand. i want to make certain that

people are on top of me taking care of this. >> what is the best thing about being a rock star? >> i think being able to play every night in front of so many people. we remember when there were 10 or 15 people, and that's what we would say, living the dream, kind of sarcastically. and once the crowd was a little bit bigger, we played in front of 20,000. this was living the dream in a good sense. i definitely love this. >> what is the toughest thing about being a rock star? >> there are early mornings and late nights and this can be difficult. i like to sleep. waking up so early can be difficult.

but getting out there to play and of your fans is what matters. >> when you were younger and found out you had diabetes, how did you deal with all of the temptations that your friends were eating? everything has hearts on this. [laughter] >> i think that first it was difficult to see things -- at that moment. but the thing about diabetes is that you can have whatever you want, you just have to take the right amount of insulin and have smaller portions. learning about this, i can just tell you about this. it was difficult to go through a grocery store and know that i should not have anything in the candle -- became the aisle. but i have a lot of sugar free

snacks -- -- candy aisle. but i have a lot of sugar free snacks. >> have you had to miss a show from diabetes? >> we have never canceled a show. we had to reschedule something because of weather but nevertheless. this has never led us to cancel a show. >> >anna asks how she can support her cousin who has diabetes. >> one way to support your friends and family is to be there for them. when i talk about is how nobody can really with what you are going through as an individual. nobody knows what is going on inside your mind. they can say that they cannot

really with you directly, but they are there for you if you need them. >> speaking of this song, the line, you don't know what you got until it's gone. what are you trying to express? >> probably the chocolate cake. [laughter] i think that there is a deeper meaning to that, i hope so. what i wrote this i was at the piano and this was a tough day, i was just wishing to be normal. like everyone else. we have a lot of fun but i was watching them they were not being rude but they were doing what they wanted. and i had to think about everything, and i was wishing i

could just be normal and not have this for a day. the song goes on to talk about the fact that you don't know what it's like to feel so loved -- the little bit longer and i will be fine. that is the story. >> what got you into singing and writing songs? >> i always had a hard for music from when i was 4 years old, i wrote my first song at 6 years old. i grew up in the house of music, and just fell in love with this. i did a few broadway shows first, and i went into recording music and writing. i notice on with my brothers and we became a group. that was about five years ago. it kind of just happen from there.

we are having a good time. >> out as being on broadway compare with a concert? >> this is much different -- it was good training for what i am doing right now. but this is very different, in the sense that the broadway show is the same thing every night, you never know what this is going to be. you never know how the crowd will be and you have to be ready for anything. >> what is your favorite song from lines liens andnes and tryg times. >> this was the most recent album and it came out in june. there is a song, black keys. this was written about the first

song i had written and as i began to write this, the concept changed into looking at life and sing that looking at things in black and white is harder -- and it stood out as something that meant something to me personally. i see this as a mash up as a little bit longer and black keys. >> when you were little, did your parents make you practice the piano, and did it make you mad? >> there was never too much pressure on us to practice the piano in particular. i was with the guitar and drums first. i would follow my dad and he would show a few things. learning this on my own and watching other musicians is a

lesson in itself. my dad and others have trained me. >> who is your musical idol, and why? >> i like elvis costello, johnny cash, stevie wonder, and prince. >> what makes them special? >> i liked cash's storytelling. teh storytelling -- the storytelling stood out to me. i want to tell a story in a song. costello is an intellectual character and it is fun to see that. >> were you listening to your ipod, and if you were, what were you listening to. >> i was watching sports center.

last time i listened to this, i was listening to the zootons. >> what is your favorite song you've written. >> this would be "a little bit longer." it is my favorite song to play live. >> will there be a "camp rock 2?" >> there will be. we leave next week to shoot this. we end the tour on the 31st, we get a 12 hour break. >> can you give us a preview about camp rock 2? >> "camp rock 2" is good and the cast is great. one of our friends just had a

number one album and we are proud of her. we look forward to shootign the se -- shooting the second installment. >> do you think you'll get your own action figure? >> i was asked this before we started. i hope so. joe had one. an action figure, more like a barbie. [laughter] as long as i look like a g.i. joe i am fine. >> it sounds like you have a hard schedule with a 12 hour break. what is the hardest part of touring? >> the best part is being able to play every night. we remember when there weren't as many people.

and the tough part, it is all good. we have a great team when we are on the road. we are near the end of the u.s. isntallment -- installment. we are going to europe after we shoot camp rock in canada. we are having a great time. >> how long does it normally take you to write a song. >> it depends on the topic. if it is personal it is quick but some have taken longer. for the most part it takes an hour and it is fun. it comes easily. >> do you have time for a social life, and what do you like to do? >> when i have time for fun, i am in to sports. we have a softball team.

we play a lot of softball. we have time to watch movies and hang out. we have a good time together and love each other's company. >> do you ahve a girl-- have a girlfriend? >> i want to figure out who asked. >> somebody with a lot of hearts. >> i do not, actually. [laughter] it's crazy. >> ok. oving on. -- moving on. what is your favorite book? >> amazing. my favorite book. there is a book i have, the best 1,000 quotes of all time. it has a lot of amazing quotes.

i will say it, and they will ask, but i can't take credit. it is a great book. >> why did you give away a guitar on friday in charlotte? >> i like to give away guitars if i see soembody who -- somebody who would like it. they are playing air guitar. it is a fun thing to do. a sweet girl took it and it was good to see she liked it. >> mary tyler moore spoke about the juvenile event you attended. what was it like testifying about your diabetes? >> it is such an honor. i