industry. and for an example, there are 25 parts of the world economy, and we are at $3.3 billion with the marketplace. and there is another fun statistic, that today, youtube uses more bandwidth than the entire internet in 2001. . .

>> we are talking about creating the conditions where businesses can continue to perform. a vast majority of economic activity was untainted by these activities and has been slowed down but continues to operate. we need to turn to our public policy attention to that part of our economy and understand how high quality jobs are being created and reap the political regulatory potential bricken occur. there is a dearth of that discussion in this town. >> we have time for one more question. >> i am with the council on

foreign relations. looking forward at the value of the dollar, i think you correctly pointed out that this will have a significant impact, perhaps more on the developing world and i would point particularly to china in this regard. it also will affect the u.s. in terms of our ability to finance the national debt. i am wondering what the different scenarios are in terms of what the u.s. will have to do in order to be able to continue to rely on other countries to buy our debt while the dollar is depreciating. we have a lot of countries like china, russia, talking about maybe using str's as a better

unit in which to measure -- in which to issue debt. >> in the short term, there isn't much of an alternative. that is reflected in what happened to the dollar. there was not much appreciation to the dollar even though the u.s. was in the crisis. this is a reflection about the u.s. and compared to the strength of other economies. you have to be careful to distinguish between different types of cash flows. there was a continued flow of money into government introduce -- instruments. there was not as much flow in private-sector securities. i don't know if this is sustainable. the endgame is fairly clear to virtually everyone. there has to be a depreciation of the dollar and there has to be a change in the u.s. trade

balance position so that we start repaying our debt. in the short run, this is a potentially sustainable equilibrium. the bigger risk is that there could be a precipitous event like china getting antsy about trade issues and making a statement about whether they will invest in u.s. treasury bonds. if you think about the dependence on china by the u.s., private settings has gone up and the death has got up and you think about the china having over $3 billion worth of reserves which they put into the -- $300 billion worth of reserves. bond and currency markets are

very fragile right now. if you could have a precipitous movement. the one encouraging thing is when you think about the dollar value, what currency will the dollar strengthened against. these are not words of comfort but the reality is that eventually it will evolve into a more stable system. right now, i think a move toward an alternative could be -- could create fair amount of turmoil. >> a quick follow-up? >> i think it is important for us to move toward fiscal balance in this country. we cannot sustain the kinds of spending we have had in the last several years. we got the budget surpluses at the end of the clinton administration.

it is something we can accomplish. a key factor in creating a renewed american economic leadership in the world will be able to stanch the flow of capital in our country. we have to invest in our country. >> i think you provided us with an excellent topic for our next event. >> did i do what i was supposed to do? >> we are out of time but i want to thank each of the panelists for providing their thoughtful remarks and discussion. thank you all for coming. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009]

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majority leader steny hoyer. this is 45 minutes. ladies and gentlemen of the house, none of us, none of us is happy to be here considering this resolution. i know i am not. at the same time, my colleagues, what is at issue here is of importance to this house and to our country. and that issue is whether we are able to proceed with a degree of civility and decorum that our rules and our democracy contemplate and require. the house code of conduct requires that each member, every one of us, each and every one of us conduct himself, and i'm quoting from the rule, at

all times in a manner which shall reflect creditably on the house of representatives. there seems to be little or no disagreement that mr. wilson did not so conduct himself on the evening of september 9. senator john mccain was quoted as saying mr. wilson's behavior, and i quote, totally disrespectful. he went on to say, quote, there is no place for it in that setting or any other and he should apologize for it immediately. mr. wilson did in fact apologize to the president through mr. emanuel, the president's chief of staff. however, it was the house itself

whose rules were offended and as mr. inglis, mr. wilson's colleague, a report colleague from south carolina, observed and again i quote, he should apologize to the house, to the house. for the rule violation. mr. inglis went on to add, that would end the matter. i have made a similar representation to the republican leader. and i believe that would have ended the matter. i know that is what the republican leaders of the house thought would be appropriate and what the republican leader talked to mr. wilson about doing. he said so to the press. indeed last thursday based upon what a republican leader told

me, not mr. boehner, that morning it was what i expected mr. wilson to do. as a result i held open the last vote last week, or the time between the last vote and the very last vote, to give mr. wilson an opportunity to express an apology to the house. as all of us know, many members have done that in the past. reflecting upon conduct they thought was not appropriate. and as a result they came to this floor. that's happened on both sides of the aisle. where members have done things that they thought brought discredit to the house and they came to this floor, to that rot lot of rum and to this and to say -- to that and to think and to say, i apologize. mr. inglis is correct. that would have ended the matter.

however, for whatever reason, mr. wilson has decided not to take any further action. in light of that, this resolution simply states the house's disapproval of mr. wilson's words and actions. his republican whip cantor is quoted as saying, obviously the president of the united states is always wull come -- welcome on capitol hill and he deserves respect and decorum. surely all of us believe that's correct. surely all of us, hopefully all of us, believe that when we invite a president of either party to come to this house and address a joint session of congress that he ought to expect and we ought to expect that we will accord to him the decorum and courtesy of which mr. cantor spoke. the republican leader of the senate added, i think we ought to treat the president with --

with respect and anything other than that is not appropriate. that's what this resolution is about. it's a resolution of disapproval. this resolution is not about the substance of an issue but about the conduct we expect of one another. in the course of doing our business. senator john core unanimous, the chairman of the -- cornyn, the senate campaign committee stated this, quote, there's a time and a place for everything and that was not the time or the place for that kind of comment. in the absence of mr. wilson's expressing his regret for acting in a manner that almost all agree, and every republican that i've talked to as well as every democrat that i've talked to, was inappropriate, contrary to

the spirit of the rules of the house and the common courtesy that we should extend to all and particularly to the president of the united states of america, our president. i expected to extend that same courtesy to every president with whom i've served. be they republican or democrat. we consider this resolution as a result of mr. wilson's failure to follow the advice of his leadership and a number of his republican and democratic colleagues who have told me that they've talked to him. i want to say personally that i know mr. wilson. we've had a good relationship. i expect to continue to have a good relationship. i found him a man of measured conduct. i was surprised. i think he was probably surprised as well.

a simple apology to this house would have ended the matter. but this house ought not to stand silent in the face of conduct almost universally and by mr. wilson himself that was felt to be inappropriate. it is an expression of the people's house that presidents nor any of us ought to expect to be subjected to such conduct in the course of our business in this, the people's house. the resolution says simply what hopefully all of us feel, that we disapprove of the conduct cited and let others know that such conduct is neither welcome nor approved by the house of representatives. at this time, mr. speaker, i ask

unanimous consent that mr. clyburn of south carolina be recognized to manage the balance of the time on our side. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. the gentleman from ohio. >> mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield to the gentleman from south carolina, mr. wilson, for as much time as he may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from south carolina is recognized. mr. wilson: thank you, mr. leader. i appreciate your service for america and i further expect the majority leader, mr. hoyer. mr. speaker, i'm humbled and grateful for the support and prayers of my wife, rocks anne, my four sons, my staff, the people of south carolina, my colleagues and the american people. mr. speaker, i think it is clear to the american people that there are far more important issues facing this nation than what we're addressing right now. the president said the time for games is over. i agree with the president. he graciously accepted my

apology and the issue is over. however, this action today will have done nothing for the taxpayers to rein in the growing cost and size of the federal government. it will not help more americans secure a job -- secure jobs, promote better education, ensure retirement or reform health insurance. it is the democrat leadership and their rush to pass a very bad government health care plan that is bad medicine for america. it is -- it has muzzled the voices we represent and provoked partisanship. when we are done here today, we'll not have taken any steps closer to helping more american families afford health insurance or helping small businesses create new jobs. the challenges our nation faces are far bigger than any one member of this house. it is time that we move forward and get to work for the american people. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the

gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: thank you very much, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, this resolution addresses an issue of great importance to current and future members of this august body. the proper conduct of its members. despite statements made by various leaders of the other party, this is not about partisan politics or inappropriate comments. to the contrary, this is about the rules of this house and reprehensible conduct. i stand here as a former school teacher and the proud father of a current public school teacher who teaches in the congressional

district represented by congressman wilson. my grandchildren attend schools in that district. but, mr. speaker, this hall is the most prominent classroom in this great country. and all of us are teachers. we're bound by duty and the offices we hold to conduct ourselves as such. classroom teachers and schoolchildren across the country and around the world looking in on our proceedings should see proper decorum and hear civil discourse. our teachers are expected to teach our children to learn proper behavior.

all of us are expected to give appropriate support and deference to the institutions that help us develop and maintain a civil and orderly society. our three separate branches of government have defined roles to play in this process. and those of us who hold positions within these branches are expected and are duty bound to treat each other with proper dignity and respect. whether we like it or not, teachers and students see us as role models. but none of us is perfect. we all make mistakes. and sometimes fall short of expectations. but when we to proper

contrition is expected. when one of us while seated in a formal session severely violation of the rules of this body shamelessly hurling accusations towards the president of these united states, our commander in chief and refuses to formally express remorse, we at a minimum are duty-bound to express our disapproval. our teachers, our students and constituents deserve no less. with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i'll recognize myself myself. -- for as much time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. boehner: i think this is a

sad day for the house of representatives. this is nothing more than a partisan stunt aimed at trying to divert people's attention from the real issue that the american people want to talk and that's talk about health care. the gentleman from south carolina made it clear the other night when he told the president's chief of staff that his behavior was inappropriate. and that's why he was calling to apologize to the president. the president graciously accepted his apology. and last friday, none other than the speaker of the house herself said it is time for us to talk about health care and not mr. wilson. now, the speaker and i don't see eye to eye on every issue, but on this issue i think that i am in full agreement with her. joe wilson is a decent human being. he did the right thing. he called the president and apologized. and the president was gracious

enough to accept it. and i just believe that a man who spent 25 years of his life in public service in the state senate and here in congress who has four sons, all of whom are in the military, three of whom served in iraq. we all know joe wilson. he is a decent man. and to put him through this on the floor of the house i think is unacceptable and it is a partisan stunt. there's been behavior that's gone on around here for more serious than this. that didn't -- that didn't bring a resolution to the floor to condemn someone's behavior. yes, people are made mistakes. some have come down to the floor and apologized. others have not. but none of it, none of it required a resolution. and to think that the president that is -- precedent that's being set here today, the precedent. think about it.

never has this happened before. that we're going to bring a resolution of disapproving of his behavior. my goodness, we could be doing this every day of the week. the american people sent us here to work together to solve the problems of our country. they didn't come here to talk about our behavior. they didn't send us here to do that. what they wanted us to do is deal with the issue of health care. the president said we ought to work in a bipartisan fashion to get health care reform accomplished. i agree with the president. i'm here. i'm willing. i'm able. set the time and a place and we'll be there with our solutions to the health care problems in the country. but to divert the nation's attention from the issues that they care about, health care, trying to make sure that we get jobs back into our economy, trying to do something about record deficits and record debt, no, no, no. we're not doing any of that. we're here on some witch-hunt, some partisan stunt that the american people are not going

to respect. and with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from south carolina. the gentleman will suspend for the second. the chair will remind all persons of the gallery that they are here as guests of the house and any manifestations of disapproval or approval is in violation of the rules of the house. with that, the gentleman from south carolina is recognized. mr. clyburn: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i want to first of all say to my friend, the leader, that before coming to this congress i spent 18 years running state agencies -- a state agency in south carolina. in those 18 years i worked for four governors, two democrats and two republicans. many of you remember one of those republicans for whom i worked for eight years was

carol kramer, a former member of this body. we were good friends. we often consulted with each other in the evenings. but we always respected each other. even though we were polls apart politically. this is not a partisan stunt. i do not participate in partisan stunts. and i think every member here knows that. this is about the proper decorum that should take place on the floor of the united states house of representatives. and i'd like to say to the leader, and i think he knows that he has not represented the facts correctly. on october 23, 2007, a member of this body, representative stark, came to this floor and

apologized for a behavior, as i would read, "i want to apologize to first of all, my colleagues. and then many of whom have been offended." and then he went on to say to the president, to his family, to the troops. that took place on this floor in 2007, october 23. then, i will remind the leader on july 23, which incidentally, happens to be carol's birthday, on july 23, chairman thomas came to this floor, and he offered an apology. "because of my poor judgment, the stewardship of my party as the majority party in the house has been unfairly criticized." and he went on to apologize.

and so all we've ever asked is that this body, this house receive from mr. wilson a similar statement of contrition. it's all about the decorum of this house. and i will reiterate, i have never stood on the floor of this house in my 17 years and participated in any kind of partisan stunt. and i think the other side knows that. and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i yield as much time as he may consume to the republican whip, mr. cantor. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cantor: i thank the speaker. i thank the leader. mr. speaker, i'm having some

difficulty understanding how it is that we're on the floor today debating this resolution. and i'd like to first speak to the claims made by my colleague on the other side of the aisle, the majority whip, in pointing out what are alleged to be precedence for this resolution. and as he knows, those instances that he referred to, whether it be the gentleman from california, mr. stark, or the gentleman from california, mr. thomas, when they came to the well of this body to speak to our colleagues, it was as a result of conduct displayed, number one, in the case of mr. stark, during debate on the floor of this house. and number two, on the part of mr. thomas, conduct that took place among members in a committee on which i sit, the ways and means. two very distinct situations

from the one we have here at hand. again, i don't understand how it is a priority that we're here on this -- on this particular piece of the resolution. the resolution, as has been pointed out, creates no job. the resolution does nothing to do anything to increase access to quality health care. the resolution does nothing to address the issues of national security. plain and simple, this resolution does not reflect the priority of the american people. now, president obama came to this chamber last week, and he admonished us, mr. speaker. he admonished us to stop with the partisan bickering. and in fact, he echoed his sentiments that he expressed during his inaugural address when he said, "we may still be a young nation but it is time

to set aside childish things." now, as the leader said, as the gentleman from south carolina himself said, he admits that what he did was inappropriate. he was on national television indicating he shouldn't have done it. he wouldn't do it again. he also said to the nation he called the president. as the leader indicated, the president graciously accepted his apology. i'm told that the vice president also accepted the apology. what more does the gentleman want? that's why i am at a loss as to what this is if it's not a partisan stunt. so i believe we ought to accept what the president and the speaker and others have said, let's get on with the business of the people.

let's try and get over the divide and stick to the course of trying to work on things we agree on or things we have a potential to do away with the disagreements, not the partisanship. now, this is the bill, this is h.r. -- the famed h.r. 3200, mr. speaker. and there are several issues in here the american people have spoken out on. the first is the claim that we ought to be able to keep what we have if we're talking about health insurance. on page 16 of the bill, there is a section entitled "protecting the choice to keep current coverage." that's what we are all trying to do for the 85 or some percent of this country who has health insurance. now, you know what, our science says despite that title, there are provisions in there which begin to require -- require

individuals and their insurers to do certain things which make it somewhat difficult if not impossible to allow for folks to keep what they have. the next issue that is of import, certainly, to the american people and to this body is the question of access to federal benefits by those who are here illegally. now, the president stood on this floor in this body, mr. speaker, and said that he did not believe that there was any access for those here individually -- individuals to get benefits. in fact, on page 143, there is a section which speaks to the issue that there should be no federal benefit for those here illegally. the problem that we have on this side is there's no requirement of verification of legal status. and in fact, the white house,

in fact, senator baucus and others have sense come out and said, you know what, you're right. these are the kind of things we could be doing right now to try and accomplish what it is the american people have sent us here to do. and they expect us to do that in a deliberate manner that produces a positive result. which means we all have got to do that living within our means and to ensure that we do not break the bank in passing this health care reform measure. so i implore this house, mr. speaker, let's try and get back to the business of the people. thank you and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield to the gentlelady from washington state, mrs. mcmorris rodgers.

the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from washington is recognized for four minutes. mrs. mcmorris rodgers: mr. speaker, i thank the gentleman for yielding and i rise in opposition to this resolution. i think the facts are clear. congressman joe wilson admitted himself that his actions were wrong and that he shouldn't have done it and that he won't do it again. mr. wilson apologized to the president and that was the right thing to do. mr. speaker, how much longer does this -- does if this go on? what are we really accomplishing here today? the president accepted mr. wilson's apology and both the president and mr. wilson agreed it was time to move on. just late last week the speaker of this house said, and quote, it's time for us to talk about health care and not mr. wilson. i couldn't agree more. americans expect their elected officials to put aside partisan differences and work to solve the problems that are facing american families. and just last week we were told, let's put aside the partisan bickering. instead of pursuing this petty partisanship, now is the time to

work together on behalf of the american people. hardworking families back home are worried about the economy. they're worried about losing their jobs. hardworking american families all across this country want us to stop a government takeover of health care. let's stop wasting time, let's focus on tackling the challenges that face our country. thank you, mr. speaker, and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: continues to reserve his time. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield to the gentlelady from florida, ms. brown-waite. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from florida is recognized for four minutes. ms. brown: thank you very much. thank you, mr. speaker. i know joe wilson, i've worked with him in the halls of this congress in committees and i've traveled with him to iraq. a retired army colonel, all four of his sons followed joe into the military service. in the seven years that i have

known him i have never known joe wilson to say an unkind word about anyone. joe is a good and honest man. he's the kind of person who, if he disagrees with you, does it without being disagreeable. just as it was wrong for my democrat colleagues to boo former president bush in this chamber, it was wrong for joe wilson to speak out of turn. the difference is that joe wilson apologized and the president very graciously accepted his apology. every member in this chamber has uttered words they wish they could have said differently. i know joe made this comment out of frustration because there seems to be a large gap between health care rhetoric and reality. what the president said did not match up with the bill that came before the house. this is the same bill that was discussed last month in many town hall meetings across our country. his comments provided americans

with an opportunity to discuss the differences between the bill they've seen and the ideas that the president mentioned on wednesday's speech. on the issue of illegal immigrants in health care reform, in three committees here in this very house, republicans offered up amendments to clarify, to ensure that illegal aliens would not be included in the health care reform bill. in all three committees those amendments were resoundingly defeated by my democrat colleagues. all americans heard the president say, if you like your plan, you can keep it. but those words directly -- directly conflict with the c.b.o.'s findings that cuts to medicare advantage plans in h.r. 3200 would result in millions of seniors losing their current plan. that's not keeping the plan that they like. further still we heard the president say that his plan would not add one dime to our deficits.

again, that's contrary to c.b.o.'s findings that say that h.r. 3200 would increase deficits by $239 billion over 10 years. mr. speaker, there's a lot of frustration in our districts and throughout america about h.r. 3200. we need to stop wasting time and get down to the business of drafting a bipartisan health care bill that addresses the needs of all americans. think of how many americans lost their jobs and lost their health care coverage during this one hour of debate that we're having today. we need to get down to the serious business that our constituents sent us here for. that's the very least that we can do. that's our job. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore:

continues to reserve. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield to the gentlelady from michigan, mrs. miller. four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from michigan voiced for four minutes. mrs. miller: mr. speaker, last week the president came to this house for a joint session of congress to discuss how we as a nation will reform health care. and the debate over health care has made clear that the american people are actually paying attention to what is happening here. during the president's speech our colleague, joe wilson, made a mistake. a mistake that i believe was drisk be by both the substance and the -- driven by both the substance and emotion in this debate. immediately after he made that mistake, congressman wilson did the appropriate thing, he immediately apologized to the president and president obama very graciously accepted his apology. mr. speaker, recently president obama made a mistake when referring to actions of the cambridge police while acknowledging that he did not have all the facts and in the national uproar that ensued, he called it a teachable moment. and i thought that was a very human response to an incident that was blown totally out of

proportion, in my opinion. and some actually infered that it had racial overtones. i think what we have here today, mr. speaker, is a teachable moment. and it has nothing to do with race. joe wilson is a patriotic american who has defended our freedom in uniform as well as here in the united states congress. he is a father of four sons who also serve this nation in uniform to defend our liberty, our freedom, our democracy. and we have all heard joe wilson speak on this floor and he ends every floor statement with the same following words, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11. joe wilson simply made a mistake and was forgiven by the person who was harmed by that mistake, case closed. so why are we here? what can we be taught by forcing a vote on this resolution? well, i believe what is going on here, mr. speaker, today, is a reflection of the unease among the american people as they have watched this congress enact a

$700 billion wall street bailout, a $787 billion economic stimulus bill, a $1.8 trillion deficit this year alone placed on the backs of their children and their grandchildren. they have been watching as congress works on health care legislation that would fundamentally alter one of the most personal factors in their lives and that is how to care for themselves and their families. during the august recess we saw the frustrations of the american people when they came out in large numbers to exercise their rights guaranteed under the first amendment. the right to free speech, the right to peaceably assemble and the right to redress their grievances before government. and how were they treated when they did this? some leaders of this house called them unamerican or an angry mob. all of this for simply making their voices heard. i understand that democracy is sometimes difficult and it can instill passion. that passion, that love for our

nation and the belief in the idea that every american deserves to be heard, is what makes america great. and we who are honored to serve here have a duty to listen. the ac ro moan that has developed here is what needs to be stopped. we need to stop and we need to listen to one another. we need to focus on the needs of the people and do the work that they sent us here to do, most importantly, get our economy moving. i come from michigan where countless of my fellow citizens have lost their jobs and many have also lost their health care. and the resolution that we are considering today will not create one job. it will not help one pepper get health care for their family. it will do nothing to allay the concerns of seniors who are worried about their medicare. it will do nothing to get our economy moving again. it will simply inflame a debate that should have been over when president obama accepted joe wilson's apology. we can do better, the american people can do better and hopefully in this teachable

moment we will learn. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: continues to reserve his time. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i'm pleased to yield to the republican conference chairman, the gentleman from indiana, mr. pence, four minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from indiana is recognized for four minutes. mr. pence: unanimousen to con -- consent to revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. pence: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in opposition of the resolution in disapproval of mr. wilson. a friend of mine back in indiana likes to say that washington, d.c., is 100 square miles surrounded by reality. never felt truer than it does today. think about it. our economy is struggling, families are hurting and congress is poised to demand an apology from a man who has already apologized. extraordinary. first let me stipulate that joe wilson is a good man.

and a man of integrity. he's a devoted husband to his beloved rocks anne, a proud father of four -- roxanne, a proud father of four american servicemen. i've traveled with joe into some pretty tight spots like many of my democratic colleagues have. i've seen his devotion to our soldiers. i've never failed to be inspired by his love for the men and women of this country in uniform, his love of his country and his constituents. you know the old book tells us a harsh word stirs up anger. but we might have seen a little bit of that last week. in the midst of a highly partisan speech by the president of the united states, joe made a mistake. immediately after the speech was over, joe recognized his mistake and he offered his sincere

apology to the president and the president's staff. and he was right to apologize. but it's important to note that despite his admitted error the broader national interest was actually served. the american people didn't send us here just to get along. they sent us here to get it right. and ironically because of joe wilson's outburst we've been engaged in nearly a weeklong debate about what's really in h.r. 3200. in fact, now the american people know there's nothing in the democrats' bill in the house that requires an individual to verify their identity or citizenship, leaving open the very he possibility of undocumented workers receiving health care benefits. this was confirmed by the congressional research service, the note -- noted in the absence quote of a provision in the bill specifying the verification

procedure on documented immigrants could receive taxpayer subsidized health benefits. if you need any further proof, the white house clarified their position last friday stating their support for verification expressly of an individual's citizenship. so despite the controversy, congress has a shot to get it a little more right. than they would have otherwise. but let me speak as i close about the broader issue of bringing this resolution to the floor of the congress today. i was home in indiana yesterday. hoosiers were shocked with the news that one of our most storied companies, eli lily&co. was announcing lay justifies. i was in indiana on the day that whirl pool announced they were closing a factory and sending more than 1,000 jobs out that have city and out of this

country forever. more than two million jobs have been lost since the so-called stimulus bill was passed. 15 million americans were out of work and yet here we are taking time in the people's house to demand an apology from a man who has already apologized. the american people want better. the american people want less politics and more jobs. they want congress to set aside petty partisan politics and come together to take action to get this economy moving again. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. pence: i urge my colleagues to vote no. mr. boehner: i yield the gentleman one additional minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one additional minute. mr. pence: last wednesday was not a good day in the house. but today is worse. today we see politics overwhelming this institution. the american people are tired of

it. so let me say again, without the didn't of the gavel, i urge my colleagues to vote no on this resolution, put attention back on the work that the american people sent us here to perform and that is to serve the interests of their families and the interests of this nation with everything we've got. i'm with joe. vote no. i yield. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman continues to reserve. the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: we're prepared to close if the gentleman's prepared to close. mr. clyburn: i am. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, i yield myself the balance of the time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio. mr. boehner: mr. speaker, over the month of august when members were home in their districts, the american people were speaking loudly. and both democrats and republicans heard the message i think loud and clear.

but as we stand here today, i would think the american people are probably looking at us wondering, do they really understand? the american people are saying enough is enough. enough of the politics here in washington, enough of the spending, enough of the big government takeover, and yet here we are on the floor of the house today debating a resolution that should not be here. putting a man's name in the record books of disapproving of his behavior. the gentleman from south carolina admitted that he made a mistake. he called the president and apologized. and yet here we are on the floor of the house of representatives debating a resolution describing his behavior. i think it's wrong. and i think we will rule the day that we set this precedent

and brought this resolution to the floor. i would just ask all my colleagues, all my colleagues to remember what it is we are doing here and the precedent that's being set. it's wrong. so i'd ask all my colleagues to do the right thing, to stand up and to vote no on this resolution. let's all respect our colleague who admitted his mistake and apologized. let's all respect him. and the way we do that is to vote no on this resolution. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from south carolina. mr. clyburn: mr. speaker, i would like to close this discussion today using the balance of the time. mr. speaker, the leader, the republican leader earlier referenced the great preacher.

his reference can be found in the third chapter of the book who says there's a time and a place for everything. i agree with that. i believe very seriously that there is going to be a time for us to discuss health care, a time for us to discuss energy policies and education and the economy. but, mr. speaker, the rules of this house provide the vehicle by which we carry out those discussions. if the rules are not honored, if the rules of this house are not their to maintain order we can never get to these discussions and do so in a way that would make the people of our great country proud.

the gentlelady from michigan indicated that this is a teachable moment. yes, it is. this is a time for us to teach not just by percept but by example that which we say to our children, that which we say to our constituents that there are certain things that you do and certain things that you don't do. and when you do those things that you don't do, the proper thing to do is to show proper contrition. not the way you may think is proper but the accepted form of contrition. and the accepted form of contrition when the rules of this body are violated is to come to this floor and to

request the apology of these members. and until that is done, mr. speaker, proper contrition has not been made. my father used to teach me all the time, son, he would say, the first sign of a good education is good manners. i took that to heart. and i would hope that this body today would demonstrate to all of those schoolchildren who are looking in on these proceedings that we are here to demonstrate what is proper decorum for you to follow in your classrooms.

we must here today support our teachers and help them educate our children. silence gives consent. we cannot be silent in this matter because we do not consent to c >> there were 12 democrats that voted against the measure and seven republicans voted for it. later this week, the house is scheduled to debate hybrid vehicle research and federal student loans. live coverage when the house returns at 10:00 a.m., eastern, here on c-span.

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