>> right now on "showbiz tonight," kate strikes back. big news breaking. kate gosselin goes on and accuses jon of wiping out their bank account. >> he took $230,000 of the $231,000 we have liquid and i have a stack of bills in my purse i can't drop in the mail. >> kate's disturbing warning that their kids necessary jeopardy and the new plea to jon today, come back, jon.

big news breaking in the letterman ex-extortion scandal. the attorney for the suspect makes a startling claim today. and the joke's on dave. >> i came here for sex with a talk show host, you have the wrong studio. >> the brutally funny jokes about dave from his biggest rivals. can dave take a joke? has the mystery of the espn peep hole sex tape been solved? a shocking ra arrest. will erin andrews be forced to relive the nightmare in court. 's most provocative tv news show starts right now. >> i'm a.j. hammer and tonight, jon and kate craziness. america's most infamous divorcees went at each other's

throats again. this time in a vicious public fight about money. money that claims jon took from the joint checking account. the extraordinary developments made for good news breaking. jaws dropped as kate gosselin went on live national television and claimed that jon took $230,000 from their children. kate accuses jon of taking the money she needs to support the family and said in tears, she can't pay their bills. jon said today kate is spewing lies, lies, lies. he said she has plenty of monand is fabricating the claims. he said he has the paper trail to prove it. they both say that. whose side are you buying. kate slams jon's claims that the kids asked him to end their show jon and kate plus eight. kate said the kids cried at the news that the show is indefinitely on hold. wow.

carlos is a correspondent for extra and carolina bermudez. tmz is saying kate filed legal papers demanding jon return that $230,000 she claims he took from the joint checking account and wants him cited for contempt. she gave a tearful interview with nbc's today show and didn't hide the details. watch this. >> he was literally buying erratic purchases, randomly performing things and -- i'm sorry. the last thing i wanted was to do this show and not being able to pay my bills. he took $230,000 of the $231,000 we have liquid and i have a stack of bills in my purse i can't drop in the mail. >> if what she claims is true, jon took the money and he's the

biggest loser. >> if it's true, yes, he is. how has he not figured out whatever he does, kate will talk about the next day on the today show or "good morning america." you can't get away with anything, jon. how in the world? what are they doing with a joint checking account? the first thing they would have had is here's your money, here's my money. we're all good. it amazes me that jon would take the money and say i will do it and she won't talk about it. she talks about everything. part rules are supposed to have been that they have to each agree if money is with drawn from the account. apparently he did it without her knowing according to her. jon is saying this is not true. it's all lies. he issued a statement to another entertainment news show saying he's with drawn some money, but certainly did not tap out the account. i would like you to hear what he has to say. this is as read by our editor,

matt. take it away. >> kate's claims are a fabrication. i withdrew $22,000 last thursday. i have never taken any money out because kate handled the banking. after four years, we accrued $2,250,000. she said in the past week i took $230,000. i have with drawn $177,000, less than 10% of what we have made. that's like my paycheck. >> they are claiming different things and adamant that what they are saying is true. >> neither of the paper trails are working out and they both lost sight of what's important. the kids. they're battling each other on national television yet again. they need a mediator and a child advocate and they need to go to room and figure out what is going on.

they can't keep snipping at each other. it's at a proportion where people don't believe either of them. >> kate said jon is full of it and she has the paper trail. look at this. >> i have the accounting over the last few months and it's exactly $230,000 beginning on august 10th and his last withdrawal was september 29th. you have left your children and their mother unable to pay for the roof over their head. it's not acceptable. >> both jon and kate claiming the other is lying. they say they have paper trails to prove it. whose side are you buying? >> it doesn't matter, a.j. they are using terms like liquid. they made $2.25 million. have you heard this is a down economy? the reason your show was great is because we could relate to you.

we can't anymore. i don't know anyone who has got $230,000 in the bank they can withdraw. i don't know anyone who uses the term liquid when talking about their money. what they are doing is further distancing themselves from not only reality, but the people who watch their show on a religious basis. >> well said. i think the reality is out of the equation. listen to what jon told another entertainment show and this is read by our editor, matt. this is what jon said when asked if really didn't have the money. >> no. she's hiding money. we have 11 bank accounts. that was just our joint account. she had a best selling book. where is that million dollars? i didn't want these things to come public. i didn't want it to be embarrassing for her. >> i am embarrassed for both of them to be honest. shouldn't they be embarrassed that they are doing this so

publicly? they are talking about the numbers of the bank accounts and all along, is saying she is revealing this to protect the kids so they know the truth one day. >> please, kate. don't start trying to say you can't pay your house bills. i can't pay my bills. you have so much money in the bank and i believe jon on this one. here's my theory on why jon is taking the money. if this show goes ka put, he has to pay al moany and child support. he is looking out for himself. kate, you think we believe you can't pay your bills? tlc would not let it happen. it's unbelievable. >> let me get to the other revelation. kate reveals she is finally no longer wearing the ring. look at this. >> it's a different -- it's my hawaii wedding thing. i'm changing them out. switching them out to give the kids a little bit of -- we discussed a ring i might buy.

at some point. it has eight diamonds and mother-of-pearl so it's symbolic and they are happy about that. >> women i know who have gotten divorce when they take the ring off it's a big deal. is it a sure sign that kate is moving on. >> she will put it on her middle finger so she can show them that. kate is definitely moving on. >> the best advice she had so far this week. kate did tell the "today" show that she still wants her old jon back. look at this. >> i'm still hoping that at some point i will receive a phone call and the old jon is back. >> what are we supposed to make of kate's unbelievable plea to jon. does she want him back and is it possible? we will be talking about that and so much more in a half hour. plus, we all know, david

letterman is famous for making fun of big star scandals. he makes them the butt of his late night jokes. now that letterman is under fire, can he take as good as he gives? >> if you came here for sex with a talk show host, you have the wrong studio. >> the biggest rival delivering brutal jokes. can he handle it? has the espn peep hole mystery been solved. an arrest has been made, but will the reporter videotaped be forced to relive the nightmare in court? it's the "saturday night live" skit that has everybody talking. >> when you look at my record, it's clear what i have done so far. that is nothing. >> who said it would be tough to make fun of president obama? this is "showbiz tonight" on hln. now the "showbiz news ticker." more stories making news right

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this guy was trying to black mail letterman was a producer for 48 hour. could have been worse. at least it wasn't the producer of to catch a predator. that would be bad. >> the joke's on dave after a shocking on air confession after confessing he had sex with people who worked for him. i'm a.j. hammer in new york and there is plenty of big news breaking on the letterman sex and extortion scandal. "showbiz tonight" producers dug up brand-new clips of letterman. comedians are not laughing with him, but laughing at him. you have to see what we are about to show you.

the attorney for the suspect charged with trying to extort $2 million from letterman went on the attack, but did he do more harm than good? you may be startled when you see the results of a poll and the shocking result it is os came in late today. cooper is a psychologist called the cult of celebrity. the editor for stylist.com. the name of the producer charged with trying to extort money so he would keep quiet about an affair dave had with a staffer who happened to be a woman he recently broke up with. this morning, his attorney went on the today show and called letterman a master at manipulation. you have to watch this. >> he has access to the media and access to a huge audience. >> you are not actually giving

your client's side of the story. >> david letterman didn't give his side of the story. he gave what he wanted the public to know. he wanted to get out ahead of the story and that's what he did. he's a master at manipulating audiences. >> that's weird. here's what struck me. in no time did the attorney deny that his client halterman tried to extort money from letterman, but said he tried to paint him at a not great guy. he needed to come out of the box and say my client didn't do this. >> exactly. we know david letterman. he's not a new talent. most of us have grown up watching him. you may not like what he has done, but i don't think i would call him a master manipulator. it's a bizarre comment. >> he made an apology and apologized to his wife. i can tell you, "showbiz tonight" poll is giving major

kudos to dave for the way he handled this. results came in on air and online, the letterman sex scandal, was his confession the right way to go? we got a high response. 84% of the vote said it was the right way to go. only 16% disagreed with the way he handled this. let me ask you this. if as the suspect's lawyer claims dave is a master manipulator, seems like he has done a darn good job. >> i'm sure he had a frosty weekend at home with his wife. i'm sure he apologized to her and she deserves the apology, frankly. david letterman did not make his announcement because he thought it was the right thing to do for his young son or wife or even for workplace law, but he made the announcement because his hand was forced by an extortioni extortionist.

he had to do it. he loses points for that. >> he is not in the clear. at least one other woman came forward claiming she had an affair with him while working for him. i saw barbara walters come to dave's defense. >> i want us to stick to the facts that nobody said that david letterman didn't get a job because you didn't do that this or that. nobody claimed sexual harassment. >> that's her take, but the former "the view" host who sat in as a guest host sees things quite differently. >> when you are the boss though, you have to keep your friend in your pants. >> very quickly, does it matter that no one claimed sexual harassment, or if you are the boss, you need to -- >> the bigger issue is women that thought i would like to further my career i would sleep with david letterman and i didn't have the opportunity. that would be the only problem. people on the letterman show

said nobody knew it was going on. they found out when we found out and they are just as shocked. clearly nobody had an issue. >> he made a career poking fun about people getting into messes like his. it didn't take long for this to happen. >> folks, if you came here tonight for sex with a talk show host, you have the wrong studio. >> there is a new book called why women have sex with 237 reason yes women have sex and letterman knows the top 10. >> a producer for 48 hours was arrested thursday for attempting a stupid human trick. they reported that the black mailer joe halterman was revealing to secrets about his

personal life. after sex he would say stay tuned for craig ferguson. as we move on tonight, this jon and kate divorce is getting so ugly and out of hand. why is kate telling jon today to come back? >> call me crazy, i said it before. i'm still hoping at some point i will receive a phone call and the old jon is back. >> kate's new plea to jon, the same day she accuses him of wiping out the bank account and what the kids did when they found out the reality show had been stopped. has the mystery of the stocker been solved. the man has been arrested for filming erin andrews half naked. will she relive her nightmare again in court? mackenzie phillips's half sister chynna speaks out. >> i'm walking through the fire and it's scarey that it's on such a public platform. >> chynna phillips opens up

about mackenzie's claim of having sex with her dad. it's the interview you will see only on "showbiz tonight." >> more stories from the "showbiz tonight" newsroom making news right now. >> stay put because right now i want you to watch the bottom of your screen for more of "showbiz tonight" that you won't see anywhere else in the show.

nothing some time at home cooperate cure. the real housewives of atlanta is mourning the death of her fian fiance. he died of blunt force trauma to the head after a fist fight he was in on saturday. in a statement to "showbiz tonight" she said i had spoken to aj two hours before i got the call that he was in the hospital. never in a thousand years did i think it was going to be the last time i heard his voice. he was only 34. kate gosselin was in tears when she accused jon of taking more than $200,000 from their joint bank account. our facebook page blew up after we asked you if you feel sorry for kate. teresa said kate needs someone to save her from herself. i mostly feel sorry that her

desperate need to cloel led her to marry a goofball and have eight kids with him. she is dealing with the fallout from her own bad judgment. did kate ever stop blaming jon for everything. she has done nothing wrong? i 78 so sick of her pity party. you can sign up for our pages simply by going to cnn.com/showbiztonight. here's what's coming up at the bottom of the hour. the startling plea to jon. >> he has gone way far off the trail. i will keep peace where i need to keep peace. i'm very upset and i can't sleep at night. >> the same day she accuses jon of wiping out the bank account, is she saying come back? a peeping tom is arrested for the nude peep hole nightmare,

but will erin andrews be forced to relive it in court. does levi get nutty for a new ad campaign. now more stories making news right now. don't go anywhere. you have to keep watching the bottom of your screen for more of "showbiz tonight" that you won't see anywhere else in the show.

call me crazy, i said it before, but i'm still hoping that at some point i will receive a phone call and the old jon is back. >> kate gosselin's startling plea. today as kate accuses jon of wiping out their bank account, is she really admitting she wants him back. breaking developments today in the espn nude peeping tom case, the man accused of peeping at erin andrews is behind bars. will she have a courtroom showdown with this guy? "saturday night live's" big time slam of the president. >> when you look at my record, it's clear what i have done so

far. that is nothing. we have the snl obama sketch that has everyone talking. more stories breaking from the "showbiz news ticker." tv's first most provocative news show continues right now. welcome back to "showbiz tonight." it's 30 minutes past the hour. i'm broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city and tonight, the brand-new jon and kate craziness. it is just nutty. absolutely brutal war of words broke out today after kate gosselin went on the today show and accused jon of taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from their bank account and everywhere you look today, there was big jon and kate news breaking. a weepy, tearful kate struck back in a remarkable no holds

barred interview covering everything from the missing money to her claims that their kids cried when they were told that the show is on hold indefinitely. why you can almost smell the bitterness oozing from kate about jon. she drop this is blockbuster in the same interview. a virtual plea for jon to come back. also breaking today, the new that is a man is charged with being the peep hole cameraman who shot erin andrews snaked in her hotel. carlos is a correspondent for extra, carolina is say senior editor for "in touch weekly." i have to tell you our heads were spinning and trying to keep up with the newest and most bizarre jon and kate developments. i swore at one point dave levine were popping dramamine to keep it level. you have kate accusing jon of taking money from their joint bank account and leaving her with a mere $1,000.

jon denying that and on the "today" show, kate claims her kids started crying when she told them that production had been halted on the show, jon and kate plus 8. >> the kids have over the weekend i told them we are not filming at this point and actually times eight, there was whaling and sobbing. they love our crew. they love the interaction. they love the events and there is nothing harmful about it. they are angry. >> when are he said the kids have said they want the filming to stop, your response is -- >> i'm not present all the time, but it has not happened. not the response i saw this weekend. >> let me begin with this. if this is true, the kids are crying over being told they can't do the show that led to the family falling apart which said they are growing up dependent on having cameras around. that cannot be healthy. >> it can't be.

the show is the cool activity. if you watch the show every time they are on the kids, they do something cool as far as taking them here or building in the back yard. when they see the cameras, cool activities are coming. here's the thing. bothicate and jon are using the kids and jon is saying they don't like the cameras and kate saying they need them. they are both using the kids way too much to garner public sympathy. >> they both want to protect the kids. i'm so confused. >> exactly. >> as you pointed out, it was last week when jon was on "larry king live" claiming the kids don't top the do the show and they shut the whole thing down. are you buying what is selling? i don't think either one has credibility. >> they are looking out for their own best interest. i agree with you. like you said, the dependence on the camera crews and on being on a show, it's disturbing. they have a skewed sense of

reality. the show will come to an end soon anyway so what will she do to explain this and get them ready for that? seems like she is holding out for another season. >> i'm not one for throwing around suggestions, but to the guests and the audience, if you are throwing a party, i have two people you shouldn't put on the guest list. kate gosselin and lisa ling. she is a former "the view" cohost and had a message for kate. kids and a reality show are not a good idea. watch this. >> i don't see what the problem is with 1207ing the show or taking the kids off the show for a period of time until things can get resolved. >> she needs to make money and this is how she will make more money on television than mcdonald's. >> you can't work at mcdonald's and take care of eight kids. >> are you thinking kate is so desperate for money and can't see any other way to make the

money she never sees lisa's point? >> i am trying to think back a few months ago when i said they should have the kids off the show and jane velez mitchell said what's the show going to be about, my point is the show can be about them getting a divorce, move the kids off the show and have the two of them not duke it out physically, but verbally on the show and get their act disciplining when everything worked out, bring the kids back in. >> if they have to do something, that's the most viable. let me recap what we are looking at. kate at war with jon over the kids. they are at war over the show and money and at war over pretty much everything. perhaps somebody can explain this to me. in the same interview, i was watching this morning on the today show. kate said she would welcome the old jon back. watch this. >> he has gone way far off the trail.

i will keep peace where i need to keep peace. obviously i'm very upset. i can't sleep at night. i can't pay my bills. i think he is receiving bad counsel. he has been to listen to the person next to him and think he is receiving bad advice. i think he is making bad decisions and i honestly, call me crazy, i said it before. i'm still hoping at some point i will receive a phone call and the old jon is back. >> hello! kate, are you there? that's delusional. >> she said call her crazy. you are crazy, kate. you don't like it and it's not going to happen. >> from the jon and kate nightmare, the naked peep hole nightmare. erin andrews has to be feeling better after a man was arrested in chicago and being charged

with being that creep who shot videos of her naked through the peep hole in a hotel room. he put them on the internet to boot. the guy's name is michael, a 48-year-old insurance salesman who stalked andrews around the country. remember what she told oprah when the tape first appeared on the internet? >> it was a painful phone call. having to call my parents and they thought i was physically injured how bad i was screaming. i screamed i'm done. my career is over. i'm done. get it off the internet. get it off. >> quickly, she felt violated and i'm sure she is relieved about the arrest, but mortified to face this guy at a trial. >> it's important to get her version of the story to go ahead and prosecute this guy and put him behind bars. she has done things the right way for her career and no reason why she shouldn't defend herself. >> thanks so much. i appreciate you being here.

here's somebody i feel sorry for. president obama because the joke apparently is on him for the first time. "saturday night live" is slamming the president in a big way. >> when you look at my record, it's very clear what i have done so far. and that is nothing. >> wait until you see this. the hilarious obama sketch that everybody is talking b. wait until you hear what has sarah palin cringing today. the father offer e her grandson starring in his first commercial. it is funny, but probably going to make sarah palin mad. you can't miss it. new revelations by chynna phillips to me about her half sister mackenzie's incest claims and what it's like to be one of the few people standing up for mac. >> i'm just walking through the fire right now essentially. it's scarey that it's on such a

public platform. >> chynna's interview you will see only on "showbiz tonight." now the "showbiz news ticker" from the newsroom making news right now. keep on watching the bottom of your screen for more news you won't see anywhere else in the show.

welcome back to "showbiz tonight." the joke's on president obama and i'm betting that the president is not laughing. "saturday night live," the same show considered responsible for destroying sarah palin has done a devastating skit that had everyone talking from washington to hollywood and there is big buzz today that the honeymoon is so over. snl's fred armson put on obama ears and slammed the president for not keeping one of his promises since taking office. you have to watch this. >> on my first day in office i said i would close guantanamo bay. is it closed yet? no. i said we would be out of iraq.

are we? not the last time i checked. i said i would make improvements in the war in afghanistan. is it better? no, i think it's actually worse. how about health care reform? hell no. immigration reform? no. gays in the military? uh-uh. exative powers no. i am seeing two two big accomplishments. jack and squat. >> we have in new york, cooper lawrence, a psychologist and author. remember back in the beginning, comics were bummed out about obama getting into the white house. they liked the guy and he's pretty cool for a president, but the tide is turning. to paraphrase what was said

about walter cronkite, if obama lost snl, has he lost the country. >> we will have to say as snl goes, so goes the country. whatever happens in the next four years, that will be the mildest. it's all downhill from here. >> more to obama's credit, it's lame going after a guy for so much stuff when he has been in office for barely nine months. what do you think, cooper? all that said, while obama is probably cringing, sarah palin may be around hunting moose and gloating. see how it feels? >> she can see russia from her house so it's different for her. "saturday night live" had a history of going after presidents, but they went after the policies and not after him personally. they have to tread lightly. >> do you think this will be the beginning of it all? again, they really were loathed to try to hammer the guy too

badly to get him into office. they wanted to help him out. >> if snl is not gently ripping the president, they are supposed to be ridiculing people in power and letting them know we are watching them. i say bring it on. that's their job. >> we will watch it unfold. thanks so much, guys. moving on and making news right now, chynna's phillips about her half sister ma kenzie and her claims of an incentuous relationship. the mamas and the papas, was china and mac's dad. mackenzie made the claim that she and her dad had a sexual relationship spanning 10 years. chynna was one of the people who said she believes ma kenzie and in this interview is you will see only on "showbiz tonight," she said she knows her faith will help her through this tremendously difficult time. >> i can't hold resentments. i can't and love my sister and

i'm really, really proud of her. it's definitely had a somewhat of a negative impact on my family and some of the relationships, but i know that will be healed because jesus is on board. i have the lord on board. >> how can you go wrong? it's nice to see what you say about ma kenzie and hearing what she said about you. there is an obvious closeness and a connection. i want to take a look at what she said. you can see it in her face and i want to watch your reaction. i think i can see it in your face hearing her voice. >> okay. >> chynna and i sat down several months ago and had a beautiful dinner together and i told her the story that i have told and you chynna has known this in form or another for a while. chynna has a christian album coming out that is brilliant. she's human amazing artist and i can't tell you how much her support means to me. >> was there any doubt in your

mind and you knew it was tough, but was there doubt you had to support her publicly the way you instantly did? >> not really. i knew that it must have been some sort of divine intervention that my album came out a day before her book. what are the chances of that? i figure like god was caressing me and saying i know this is tough and it will be difficult, but i have a reason for it. >> everybody has been asking mackenzie in the aftermath how she is doing. how are you doing? >> thank you for asking. >> i have been wondering that and it struck me. the family. of course you. how are you doing? >> you know, some days are better than others. sometimes i just have to have a good cry. it hasn't been easy, but today i'm having a good day and i have my husband is supporting me and a good therapist.

it's like i'm just walking through the fire right now essentially and it's scarey that it's on such a public platform. that's the way it's supposed to be right now. >> one of the difficult things for me is watching how people have been going after her saying wow, no way she is making this up. were you right from the start saying how can you make this up? among those who have said she is lying essentially have been members of your family. have you had a chance to speak with any people who are saying that and help them reconcile this? >> there is nothing i can say or do. everyone has their own personal opinion. i choose to believe her and others don't. >> fair enough. >> you have said you wish that she handled this privately. >> well, yeah. it's a huge revelation and it's something my poor dad is not even here to talk about. that makes me sad he can't defend himself or at least come

out and talk about it publicly. he doesn't have a choice and that makes me sad. i don't condone what happened between my father and my sister, but it is helping people and the incest i don't condone the behavior what happened between my father and sister. it is helping people. the incest and rape hot lines have gone up 50%. that is a miracle. a miracle. my sister was able to change and touch so many lives. i hope people find healing and peace. >> there is much more of my revealing interview with chyna fill ises, what made her break out into song on set with me. a special moment the i will play it for you coming up next. tonight, levi johnson goes nuts in a brand new commercial released on line today. this thing is hysterical, provocative and an ad that will have everyone talking except for the palins, speechless, not in a

good way. the commercial you have just got to see. now, the showbiz news ticker more stories from the showbiz tonight newsroom. making news right now. you are watching showbiz tonight. on hln. do not move. watch the bottom of your screen for more that you will not see anywhere else in the show.

welcome back. levi johnson's eyepopping commercial is released father of sarah palin's grandson got his first acting gig for wonderful pistachios, he pokes fun at himself as part of the get cracking campaign. the joke is bound to make the palin's furious. >> now, levi johnston does it with protection. wonderful pistachios, get

cracking. >> tonight moving on to my amazing chynna phillips' serenade. in the hit group wilson phillips. now after a long break, part of the duo chynna & vaughn. as she deals with the massive fall out from her sister's insert claims she is leaning on her faith. a new song "eye for an eye" in the middle of our interview she spontaneously broke out in song. you have to watch this. ♪ i'm not going to hate even if i ache inside ♪ ♪ i'm not going to hurt someone even if i'm justified ♪ ♪ i'll not going to lie even if i've been deceived an eye for an eye it's not the life i choose to lead ♪ >> look at this. >> how could that not be inspirational.

a song written by vaughn penn. all about forgiveness, about not returning an eye for an eye, all about redemption, and you know? it's just one of those songs that, yes, it definitely, definitely correlates a lot to what's going on in my life. >> chynna's voice is as good if not better than ever. the album fan -- is fantastic. moments ago, jay handed me the final results. david letterman sex scandal was his tv confession the right way to go. # 4% said yes. 16% no. among e-mails. ann marie from georgia. enough is enough. well that is showbiz

tonight. thank you for watching. i m al a.j. hammer in new york. you can always catch showbiz tonight -- the first 600,000 doses of the h1/n1 swine flu vaccine are going to health departments in 21 states and four large cities. hospitals in memphis and indianapolis began inoculating monday. first batches are in the form of nasal spray. in a week or so, vaccine for injections will be ready. investigators have several people under 'round-the-clock surveillance in connection with a suspected plot to explode bombs in new york. sources close to the investigation say some traveled to pakistan and are now back in the u.s. and mild winds and cooler temperatures are helping crews on the scene of a fast-moving

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tonight, the david letterman scandal. are his interoffice activities turning him into a late-night punch line? then barack bashing -- president obama extended the olive branch to the right wing over and over again and they keep chopping me off. joining me in the studio, the man who is like sarah lee, nobody doesn't like him. fabulous regis philbin. all of that and more from new york york city and the time-warner building. tonight.

sex, money, extortion. is this an episode of "law and order?" no -- it's the real life goings-on of "the late show with david letterman." new details are coming tonight including an alleged love nest above the ed sullivan theater. makes sense -- who was a bigger babe magnet than ed sullivan? joining me to discuss this ongoing scandal are comedian sandra bernhard, judith regan, jeanine pirro host of "the judge jeanine pirro show." and the fabulous lloyd grove. welcome to the show. i want to show a picture of this girlfriend of his first. okay. there she is. very nice looking, sweet girl. do you think there were others, lloyd, or this it? >> there may have been others. i have to say i hung out on that show for three days running for hours on end and maybe i'm not

the best judge but i didn't get a vibe that there was a sexual harassment vibe there. in fact, three of his top producers are women and all of them have worked for him for, like, 30 years. >> i heard that. je jeanine, you are a lawyer. sexual harassment means a lot of different things. >> it's two things. there are two standards under title 7. that is -- a quid pro quo -- do you in exchange for sex get a promotion or get to keep your job or is there a hostile work environment which means is it raunchy, people patting you on the butt, that kind of thing. it doesn't appear based upon the promotion of so many women, a strong women show in terms of the executives, that that seemed to be the case. the issue is consent. was it voluntary consensual sex and if it was, there's no sexual harassment. >> owe ska, before we move on -- it seems everybody is talk ing about the admission from thursday. look at this. >> the creepy stuff was that i

have had sex with women who work for me on this show. now, my response to that is, yes, i have. i have had sex with will ebb om work on this show. [ applause ] and would it be embarrassing if it were made public? perhaps it would. perhaps it would. especially for the women. >> okay. a couple of things. first of all, he said it was creepy, which really struck me because creepy to me -- i don't think what he did was that creepy because creepy is consensual incest. we heard about that last week. roman polanski was creepy. i don't think this is creepy. they're both adults. what about the fact that other people at the show -- other women at the show might feel the hostile environment. not a welcoming environment.

if one girl is sleeping with the boss and getting promotions or going on the air, what do you think? >> i thought when he said creepy, that was the thing that resonated with me. i thought we don't know details of what went on. maybe it was creepy. maybe he was doing creepy things. maybe the guy who extorted him has a lot of details about the kind of sexual behavior he engaged in. we don't know anything. was it sexual harassment? we don't even know that. if it was sexual harassment, wouldn't these women have come forward before and said something before? >> you would think so. you would think so. >> there is such a thing -- consenting adults here. are we surprised gambling is going on in casablanca? come on. where do you go where there are powerful, rich, successful men who are not having sex with the women around them? i don't know. i lived in new york city. this is not an alarming situation as far as i can see. the only alarming thing is the extortion. if it's true. >> really?

>> if it's true. >> well, you used to flirt with dave on his show. >> i did. i always found david incredibly attractive. i still do to this day. just because of his self-effacement and his sort of mock embarrassment of his whole being. i find that very attractive in a man. >> i don't think it's mock. i think he has a lot of issues. >> we all have issues. you know, he makes up where he draws his humor and it's funny and it works and even his confession i found -- i laughed out loud. it was genius. >> it was a p.r. coup. >> it was genius. the show is doing so well. i don't know. i think once you hit 21 and no matter what the workplace is -- unless he's twisting their arm, which i doubt is happening because he is very appealing. he's an appealing guy. i'm not surprised that women wanted to sleep with him. >> if i was a girl working on the show and some other girl is getting on-air time because she's sleeping with the head of the company, i wouldn't like it. >> you would hone your five

minutes. come on, joy. you would be in there sharpening your tools and be ready to roll. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> jeanine, come on, don't you think this is -- not hostile but not a welcoming environment for other people. >> the question is a fair question. how do you compete with someone who is sleeping with the boss? the problem is that the case and the statutes don't contemplate that. they contemplate two grounds, hostile work environment and you want to extrapolate from that that it is hostile because you can't get in there and sleep with him too. or you can't move up because someone else is. the cases don't support that. what's curious is that no one ever complained and one of the young women said i love this guy. he was hilarious. i would have married him if he asked me. >> sure. he's rich. of course she would have married him. duh? >> just because you sleep with the boss doesn't mean you'll get ahead. sometimes it can be detrimental to your career. >> only if you break up. >> i'm not sure where were they trying to get to?

i don't think most of the women were trying to be performers or they would be guest on the show like we've been. i don't understand ultimately what they were trying to achieve through their sexual relationship. >> she does get an extra check on the air. you get an after check if you go on the air. >> wonderful insurance. >> he paid for her law school. hello. >> plus she was at the olympics reporting. >> he doesn't want to sleep with every woman and not every woman wants to sleep with him and not every woman will get those treats. if you're not dating someone, you won't send them a diamond bracelet. it doesn't make sense. i don't find this to be that scandalous or off the charts. >> he's not dating rupert on the hello deli. he is on the air a lot. >> this is true. over the years he's had a lot of interesting characters. >> the interesting thing is extortionist and what could have happened there. jerry chargral is one of the best criminal defense attorneys in the world.

>> didn't he defend gotti? >> he defended mark dryer. i was there at mark dryer's sentencing and his performance was impressive. the way they'll spin the story is he was trying to sell his book or screen play and giving david letterman the opportunity to buy it first which happens by the way all of the time in the book business. people used to come to me all of the time and -- people would come to me all the time -- >> not a chance. you have the manhattan d.a.'s office in the middle of this thing. you have a wiretap. you have a transfer under their auspices. you had an extortion clear and simple. i agree with you judith, gary is a phenomenal attorney. at the end of the day -- this case is one supervised from the das office from start to finish. >> i'm going start dating gary. he sounds like the one to go after. for crying out loud. >> he is the one. >> this is what the attorney for the accused extortionist said today on "good morning america." >> i look forward to

cross-examining david letterman the i don't think that the full story is before the public. i think that every day, every hour of every day, i'm gather ing new facts and there's much more to this story. >> lloyd, who is this guy, halderman? who is he? >> a long-time cbs field producer. which means he has a huge ego. >> what do you mean, a field producer has a huge ego? >> somebody that goes out on the streets? >> this is somebody that goes around the world. he's a war correspondent. you have to have a lot of self-confidence. you have to get the story. you have to be brash. he was somebody who liked to have fun. he had a reputation for being a bit of a womanizer. >> he sounds bitter the he sounds angry. >> i haven't seen one picture of this man that conotes fun. >> fun? get it going. wow! fun. >> he's going through a bad patch.

>> honey. very bad. >> his motivation is that he had problems with child support, foreclosure issues, maintenance issues. >> so what? who doesn't? what does that mean? that's half of america. >> what about the gosselins. you think this is bad. >> i just want to say one thing about jerry shargel and what he said. because i have been involved -- >> back to jerry. my man. >> i'm going after him, too. he's an incredible guy. >> you've had enough problems. >> that's true. with men. when he said i'm looking forward to taking david letterman's deposition, that's a veiled threat. he wants david letterman to know he'll sit in the deposition and ask him every sordid detail about his sex life from day one and it will all be made public. what do you do in bed? are you into choking women? >> he is kind of nerdy. and just finding girls at the

office. weird. >> what's telling is that no one has complained about letterman to this point. no one said a word. >> not yet. >> not yet. >> these other girls may come out now. >> this will make an opportunity for them. >> i think the problem with this guy is he was rejected by letterman. letterman didn't invite him to parties. apparently. and he was like, the guy had a lot of, i know you got to go to commercial break. >> we'll come back and have more on the letterman scandal when we come back. but we are out of type right now.

>> if you came here tonight for sex with the talk show host, you've got the wrong studio. what is going on? first conan hit his head and then somebody tries to extort money from letterman. i'm so glad i'm out of late night. >> letterman's rival jay leno took his shot on friday. i'm back with my panel. sandra, you and jay did have an affair at one time.

i heard that on howard stern. >> he took me for a ride on his motorcycle back in the day. >> that was it or you had sex on the motorcycle? i don't get it. >> i was, like, 19 years old. i was just starting on the comedy scene. i wish i had been more impressed by letterman. i find letterman to be a sexier man. just in general. >> do you think women will stop watching letterman? >> i think they'll watch more than ever. >> you know he has a 58% female audience. this is what's interesting. they always tell women comedians, us, that late night is for the boys because only men watch it. p.s., 58% of his viewers are female. >> baloney. >> i think women, you know, ultimately have a better sense of humor than a lot of men do. women have learned to laugh at themselves and laugh at their lives and the problems that we have to deal with day-to-day. i think that ultimately we're much funnier than men and want

to laugh more than men. >> why is late night dominated by men? >> it's a misogynistist and sexist world, joy, in case you didn't notice. >> women are exhausted from cooking and cleaning and everything else. >> i'm not. i love to stay up late. i would like to be in that slot. >> 58% are women. it won't affect him one bit other than ratings will go up. >> people will continue to be more interested. >> scandal sells. >> scandal sells. that doesn't mean it will hold. >> he has been doing better than conan in the past couple weeks any way. i think this will just kind of take it to another level. >> do you think that sarah palin thing and that problem where he made a joke about sarah's daughter has something to do with the spike in his ratings? >> i think it all helps. everything he does that's outrageous like everything else in culture, the screamers and yellers and those more outrageous when there is a scandal, you sell more books. >> david surprised people by getting political. never really was. >> we didn't know he was such a liberal.

now we know. he's an obama fan. >> i always knew he was a liberal from way back. that's who he is. >> how come you never hear about powerful women sleeping with underlings. you never hear that. >> good question. >> what is the reason? >> because women want to sleep with men who are more powerful than they are. >> i don't agree with that at all. >> i think so many women want to sleep with grips and electricians. >> especially grips. >> are there any grips in the house? let's see the grips. >> where is my best boy? >> they carry the -- you know, they lift the bales of hay. and the wires. they're sexy. they're built. and they shut up. they're not interested in political conversations. they get down and they want to get into it. >> as a comedian, how awkward is it for him to make fun of other people committing adultery or whatever he's doing? >> he'll bring it back to himself again.

he'll have to if he wants to stay on and keep doing it. >> given the fact he is self-deprecating, he understands that he is in a position where he's being seen as hypocritical. i think in answer to your other question, a lot of times you don't hear about sexual harassment as it relates to men, number one, women are not in as many positions of power as men are. also, there is a certain embarrassment factor, what's acceptable and reportable? it's like domestic violence. in the beginning, it was all women reporting now men are coming forward and reporting. >> have you been harassed by a woman in a position of power? >> no, joy, i have not. >> would you like to start tonight, lloyd? >> you're scaring us, lloyd. jesus. whoa! >> some comics have been quick to latch onto this scandal. >> a new book out called "why women have sex" with a list of 237 reasons why women have sex.

letterman knows the top ten. >> a producer if "48 hours" was arrested for attempting a stupid human trick. it is reported that the blackmailer was threatening to reveal embarrassing details of letterman's personal life. for example, after sex he would always say stay tuned for craig ferguson. >> now, craig ferguson stayed away from it because he's on cbs and letterman is his boss. conan hasn't said a word and jimmy kimle -- >> it's hard to make it funny. >> they go for the easy laugh. >> there's nothing complicated about it or layered. it is what it is. it's really hard to come up with something that's really going to knock people's socks off with this story. >> they should make fun of it. he makes fun of other people. why shouldn't they.

that's their game. i think they should do it. it's cowardly not to. >> exactly. comedians are getting a bad rap for not making fun of obama. that's another thing. we have to step up a bit and start making fun of the people whose side we're on i think. >> exactly. equal opportunity. >> when there's something to say, you know, it can be made funny, then we'll make fun of it. until now there hasn't been anything to mine from obama or david letterman. >> there's been plenty of stuff. >> there's plenty of stuff with you, sandra. i hear you have a new album out. >> i do. it's a world music album. great guest stars from africa and the middle east that i co-wrote with ted mason. >> what's it called? >> it's called "whatever it takes." also i'll be in san francisco starting next tuesday for two weeks. at the raz room. >> very good. >> anybody else want to plug anything? >> i think you should go on the letterman show. >> jeanine, sandra, thanks. lloyd, you're going to stay there. we're talking about jon and kate when we come back.

>> randomly purchasing things. i'm sorry. the last thing i wanted was to do this show and end up not being able to pay my bills, and he took $230,000 of the $231,000 that we have liquid and i have a stack of bills in my purse that i can't drop in the mail. >> that was kate gosselin on the "today" show this morning. kate says that soon to be ex-husband, jon, took over $200,000 from a joint bank account but left her with a thousand bucks. what a prince. okay.

he also said he's more famous than paris hilton. this guy is a character out of i don't know what. a dickens novel, what? lloyd, how do you feel about this couple? >> i hate them. >> you hate them? >> pretty much. >> what did they do to you? >> we're talking about them. they're inflicting themselves on me and there's no way most people can go anywhere without hearing about them. >> they really have made a lot of money for that network they were on because it's a top rated thing. it's the biggest thing. >> people are interested. they love children. they love all of the antics. they love marriages that fall apart and people who fight and the utter stupidity of all of reality television and tabloidism and these are stories as old as hills and people are endlessly fascinated by it. >> she has her own show now. he's not on it anymore.

will it be boring without him? >> i don't know how boring it will be or not. i think that at this point -- i'm not quite sure what motivates her at this point. whether she's really trying to do something for society and to really talk about the experience of having eight children or whether she's really gotten into just dining out at nobu, which i know she likes to do. >> i think she's addicted to fame. >> where did you hear that? >> i heard from reliable sources. >> this is what happens with reality stores. reality stars. they become very full of themselves. very grandiose. they think they're elizabeth taylor. they really do. >> he took all of the money. what is she supposed to do for money? >> we don't know -- >> he says there are other bank accounts floating around and there is over $2 million that they received -- >> they have that much? i didn't know that. what's the crying about then?

>> it's about ratings. she has to take care of these kids by herself while he's off carrying on over there. the kids are upset i hear. i believe that because they probably miss the crew. with parents like this, i rather my crew take care of me than jon and kate. >> the crew are the only people they know who have a job. >> exactly. >> responsibility toward the kids. >> what will happen now? how will this play out? >> you know what i think will happen? they'll do whatever they can do to get everybody interested, to stir the controversy so people watch when the show comes back. that's what it's all about. it's about creating drama and stirring controversy so that everyone watches. >> she needs a job. don't you think? i wouldn't want to raise those kids without a job. >> she has a job. she's hoping that she can parlay this into an endorsement deal or talk show. watch your back. she'll be over here. >> there she is over there.

>> seriously. she's hiding in the chrysler building. >> she's on the terrace. >> that's on the terrace. >> thanks to my panel. the latest outburst from rush limbaugh when we come back.

when president obama took office almost ten months ago, a lot of us hoped for change in tone in washington. a little more civil. a little less nasty. so much for that idea. listen to what rush limbaugh said on friday. >> barack hussein obama. trying his best to bring hope and change to chicago with the olympics and what did we do? we let him down. barack hussein obama was trying

to make chicago a bright shining cesspool on a hill and now look at what happened? >> okay. >> does he need another interventi intervention? what do you think of that, megan? >> i'm not a fan of rush limbaugh. i'm not a fan of keith olbermann. >> why? >> i don't like extremism in any form, when it comes to politics. i don't know how old you are but we look around the same age. we tune out. >> thank you. >> i start tuning out when people start yelling. it's not good for america and politics and it's bad for this generation and what it's getting to be a success in politics. >> it's interesting. david brooks agrees with megan. he said that the rise of beck, hannity and o'reilly has correlated perfectly with the decline of the gop. what do you think of that and then we'll ask susan, our resident republican, the question.

>> i'm not a resident republican. >> a young republican. i thought we just went over that. >> don't say that. susan is a young republican. >> okay. i think that david brooks is in competition with these guys. you have to take it with grain of salt. they're all in conservative movement. there's this debate going on. there was a long piece in "the washington post" saying we have to get back to ideas for conservatives and not just attacks. the big problem is there's a false comparison. we hear about the left and right. left gets mad about certain things and you have voices. you don't see the overt appeal to racism and other personal attacks as much on the left as you see right now on the right. the barack hussein obama clip you saw is wrong. >> it's rude. susan, do you see the decline of the republican party right now? >> i see a party that lost an election and just like other political parties when you're out of power for a while, it takes a while until you get your footing again and you decide who your spokespeople are going to

be in terms of elected officials who will run for office. so i don't see us in decline. as a matter of fact, some of the numbers are starting to come back up again. unfortunately for president obama some of his numbers are starting to go down which means that republicans and democrats can now compete for the independents and people in the middle and i think we'll start to see now that president obama has superman has fallen to earth and is on level playing field, you'll see the conversation become more about ideas as both political parties try to move towards the center. >> the question is do conservatives care more about obama losing than what's good for america? look at the drudge report, after chicago lost the olympics. it said weekly standard employee wrote in a blog that the staff cheered when chicago was eliminated. that's obnoxious. why would they cheer for something like that? aren't we all americans? don't we want the olympics to be in the country? >> if you saw what people did

when george bush was president of the united states, it was pretty fair in terms of the way the liberal media dealt with president bush and his success and failures and everything that went wrong was because of president bush. i think there's a balance here. >> i heard that argument a lot. do you agree we were just as rough with bush as the right wing is with obama? >> i don't think that argument is borne out. if you go into a year in bush's term, he had high approval ratings, there was not scepticism, in the so scald liberal media. arguments on taxes and economic policies that didn't work out were not scrutinized at the time. obviously everyone understanding the media's role in iraq. i don't remember people saying it was a liberal media on the march to war. it's where that talking point keeps surfacing but it's not what happened. >> what do you think, megan? >> i know what it's like to be a republican and just recently i had some one- >> tell us what it is like?

>> it's not a joke, i've had people scream republican at me. it's hard in some places. i've had people scream republican at me on the street. like it's a bad thing. obviously with president obama for me the frustration was that he spent so much money going over there, coming back right now, when we have everything that's going on in this country. look at the income rate. look at what's going on. it's a scary time right now. for him to fly over and then come back bothered me more than anything. >> if he didn't go, he would have caught a lot of flak. >> do you really think if he hadn't gone? >> if he hadn't gone, he didn't give it the old college try. what do you think, ari? >> people love having the olympics here. america gets it more often than other countries. there's a lot of good reasons for that. it's a boost. >> a 16-year-old boy in chicago was beat to death in chicago and chicago loses was on the front page and "chicago sun-times" and chicago newspapers and we're putting our emphasis on the wrong thing. on the olympics instead of hate crimes and things going on in chicago right now. >> that's not obama's fault. it's what the newspapers right. it's what the newspapers write. if he had control over that -- >> we're emphasizing the wrong things in general in the media and politics.

>> media loves sports. olympics is about sports. sports get a lot of coverage. >> for somebody like me that doesn't care about sports at all. i care about violence in chicago, violence, teens, on the street. i have a little sister more important to me than the olympics. >> i think it's personal attacks that people are getting frustrated with. it's not just rush limbaugh. we have a controversy because senator mccain called into question whether general jones is trying to make decisions for national security interest of the country or as mccain put it for personal political maneuvering. i was surprised by that attack. it's wrong. i don't think there's any evidence. no one is pointing evidence that general jones is trying to play politics. they're trying to do a review of afghanistan strategy. >> senator mccain is playing politics? >> senator mccain made a personal attack against general jones and hasn't pointed to evidence that general jones is playing politics and they're trying to figure out what to do in the region. >> i would look to say that -- ten soldiers died in the biggest assault in afghanistan yesterday.

i have two brothers currently serving in the military. it's scary for me. scary for me when obama met with the head general once during his administration. people are scared and worried. it's very personal. i'm worried about what's going on in afghanistan. i was recently asked what the media hasn't emphasized the most. i said, it's afghanistan. it's sad that i have to call my brothers on the phone to understand what's going on. a lot of people are really frustrated. you can hear me getting emotional about it. it is very emotional. >> it's emotional for a lot of people. in this case president obama is working through the chain of command. he has meetings with field commanders and meetings every week with secretary of defense. >> it's not what obviously the -- >> do you think general jones is playing politics trying to conduct this review? >> i agree with my father on this one. >> what is the evidence that general jones is playing politics? this man served the country for 25 years in both administrations for both parties. senator mccain said that on the senate floor but didn't provide evidence. this is a personal attack without evidence. >> we'll agree to disagree. >> susan, do you want to jump in on this?

>> there's nobody who has more equity in terms of questioning the military status and what we need to do in the u.s. military and our armed forces than senator mccain. i would yield to him and his opinion and his right to stand on the floor, someone who really has never crossed the line and been the more possibly bipartisan, apolitical members of the united states house of representatives. i think he earned the right to call into question of the motives of our leaders in the way he just did. i don't think he crossed the line at all. >> that being said, obama is in trouble right now. it worries me that dick cheney will be next. next time the election comes up, it will be dick cheney because people will say let's go back to that again. >> i think it could be right -- but i don't think it will necessarily be. >> the pendulum swings. >> it scares me. thanks to my panel. thank you very much. >> regis philbin will join us later in the show.

this is a potpourri of a show. first, i'll be back in a moment with a few choice words on the whole letterman affair.

i have to be honest here. i never thought of david letterman as a sexual being. he was a whitey mr. rogers for me. when he married his longtime girlfriend it seemed sweet. they had been dating for 23 years but the kid was almost in high school by the time he married her. you can imagine my surprise to find out that dave turns out to be hugh hefner without the pajamas. i wasn't born yesterday and i know that powerful men like to screw around. clinton had lewinski. kennedy had marilyn. thomas jefferson had sex with a slave. there's even talk -- listen to this -- there's even talk that the great emancipator, abe lincoln may have found sexual freedom outside of marriage in the arms of a man to which i say so long ago so what who cares and good for her. i don't think this letterman

thing would be such a course for laugh if members involved weren't dave's employees but peers like oprah. i don't see that happening. truthfully. ellen. i don't see that happening at all. women shouldn't have to sleep with the boss to get ahead in the company. they should have the right to advance their careers like everyone else in showbiz by stabbing other people in the back. so i say if you're going to get canoodle with someone in the office, don't do it with a subordinate. do it with an equal. is regis philbin still around? i saw him in the green room. he's looking very hot. but that's just me.

>> one of the songs is on the album. how about you? ♪ i like new york in june ♪ how about you ♪ i like a gershwin tune >> how can you forget that? >> how could you forget it? >> whether daytime or prime time, my next guest is a television icon and also in the guinness book of world records for spending the most hours on the air. here's a rare clip from his first show. >> they package things. they wrap things today like -- it infuriates me to open anything. >> what do you think when you see that? how many years ago was that? >> i think that was one of my best shows.

i started a talk show in 1961. it ran three years. then they brought me up to hollywood to follow steve allan on the westinghouse evening show. and of course i wasn't ready for that. on my show in san diego i produced it myself. i flew the people in from los angeles. i put them up at the hotel. i did everything i wanted to do. i got to hollywood and i found out i got a producer and associate producers and writers and i wasn't prepared for that. i blew that wonderful opportunity. >> look at you now. how many opportunities since then. >> it took me a long time to accomplish where i am now. >> so many co-hosts. >> over the years so many is right. >> you've had -- what was the first one? >> first one years and years ago was mary hart. >> with the legs. >> yeah. she had legs then, too. >> was she sexually harassed in her job? >> not by me. i saw her doing a local show

in -- i was going to start a local talk show on television. i was doing the news on knbc in los angeles. i knew the show was coming. they wanted me to have a co-host. i asked mary hart. she was one of the first. before that it was sarah purcell and then cindy garvey and then mary hart, then ann abernathy, and then kathie lee for 15 years, and now kelly for eight years. >> they never offered me the gig -- a awe. >> who denied you that? i had a job already. you're a character in the business. "saturday night live" captured it. let's look at that. >> look who's back! >> i'm back. >> look who's back! >> i'm back. i never felt better. >> come here.

>> very funny. >> do you find that flattering when you see that? >> i enjoyed it. i don't know, i thought he's very good. the guy who started this whole thing was dana carvy. when he appeared on "saturday night live." i'm out of control! he would say! >> you scared me. honest to god i never said that. >> you do act like that. you scared me. >> with what you went through on that panel of women, i scare you? >> i scared you? >> i'm on this new show all by myself. it's weird. >> it's strange to be without four co-hosts. >> it does feel a lit bit different. >> it's different. i don't have people interrupting me. >> how do you think they feel about you getting a prime time slot? >> i think they're happy for me. >> you think so? >> you don't think so? >> when are four women ever happy about another women getting something they would love to have? tell me that! >> you assume they would love to have another show. i have to work hard. >> they want to sit right here. don't kid yourself. >> sherri shepherd has a new show. >> i'm on the show tomorrow

night. >> you are making the rounds. >> i'm done making the rounds. people invite me. >> how many hours a week do you work? >> four. i'm on four days a week except when we go to -- sweeps. then i -- >> what about the millionaire show. you're on that. you're doing -- >> i went off millionaire show six years ago. can someone help me here? >> i saw you hosting recently. >> it was for ten nights. thank you for staying in touch. >> do you think you saved the network like they say you did? >> absolutely. in the years that that millionaire show, abc was desperate, more desperate than they are today, that's saying a lot. anyway, yes i went on there. bang. the show was an enormous hit. >> kathie always said or was it kelly? i never get -- >> no, it was kelly lee and then kathie and then kelly.

>> do you like kelly the best? >> i love them all. they're all my girls. >> how do you feel about the fact that barbara walters is considered a living legend and you're not? >> maybe because she's lived longer than me. hey, hey. don't ever tell barbara that. >> she's not watching. >> barbara walters is a true icon if you want to call anybody an icon. honest to god. she has blazed a lot of trails in this business for people, for women. >> she's a pioneer. we wanted to get her a stage coach recently. >> thank you. >> she's great. i don't even consider myself in her league to tell you the truth. >> why not? you're an icon on television. >> no, i'm not. no i'm not. >> she ebts viewed fidinterview. and you ibts vinterviewed who? and newt -- what's his name? newt gingrich. >> we don't do politics.

>> you don't like politics? >> as a matter of fact, i don't like politics. it's jaded now. everyone has to follow the party line. >> what about when fdr was in office? then i used to --

what is day and night? >> no. >> night and day? >> day and night, night and day. all right, we'll give it to you. >> couldn't wait to say no, could you? no, regis, no. >> select again, regis. >> thank you, judge, for overruling mr. big shot here. >> all right. >> see, you were doing dana carvey. >> i was, yeah. >> regis, let me ask you something. what do you think at leno's show? let's talk show bez biz. do you think he made a good move? >> the first week he did. it's a tough thing to do, isn't it, to do a variety show with all the best the networks have got to put up right now, he may survive.

he will survive this few weeks until people either make up their minds about what they're watching on the other networks and come back to him or maybe they don't. >> why did he give up his desk? the desk, all comedians need notes in front of them. need a desk. that's a big mistake. i want to call him. >> you're exactly right. i -- i was almost going to call him and say, jay, don't give up the desk. the desk is everything. >> exactly. >> he wanted a different look. he wanted to have more of a variety show than what he had. why not do what they were doing before which was a big success? >> i know. >> anderson cooper has been sitting in for you. does he have your moe joe. >> anderson cooper every night dreams about getting my job permanently really. he doesn't want to grow up like the wolf, he wants his own job. >> i think he has grown up like the wolf already. now, what about this halloween show you have coming up? i've heard you're doing -- what costumes are you doing in. >> i don't know this year. yet to be decided by my

producer, gelman. he makes all the decisions. >> doesn't he listen to you? >> we all -- >> isn't he really your bitch instead? >> how dare kathy griffin say that about gelman. i think we started the whole thing about the host getting dressed up for halloween. >> we're going to get dressed up. >> do you do it every year? >> every year. it who who ruins my makeup and hair. >> something changes. drives you crazy. we come up with a pretty good show. you know, i think it's a lot of fun but i hate going through it. >> one year you came out as a woman and kelly came out as a guy, right? >> exactly.

i did that i think with kathie lee and with kelly as well. she does a funny regis, kelly. >> she does? >> oh, yeah. >> before we go? >> where are we going? we're done? >> now you want do stay? before you were -- you know what, i know you don't do politics. how about pulp culture? are you upset jon and kate gosselin are getting a divorce? >> she was on the show. i may have made a big mistake. i have a thing against reality shows. i think they're fake. i think they're produced before they begin. i think people know where they're going, what they're going to say, what the situation is. these things don't happen. you know that. thee guys, the producers tell them, hey, this is -- i thought it was a setup. the divorce. now, i think it's headlines like a divorce, especially when a woman has got eight kids. >> exactly. i don't care for him at all. >> well, i didn't say i loved him either. i'm talking about what reality shows can do. >> i know. >> is this a big rush? you're a very attractive woman. >> thank you, regis. >> honest to gorksd and with this lighting you could go all the way. >> the lighting is fantastic. my thanks to regis philbin. made him look gorgeous, too, staying up past his bedtime. good night, everybody. >> good night, everybody. >> good night. good night, john boy. q

breaking news tonight. to satsuma, florida, where 5-year-old haleigh cummings gets tucked into bed, just five hours later she's gone. the back door wide open. last person to see little haleigh alive that night? stepmom misty croslin. tonight, we've just confirmed haleigh's stepmom/baby-sitter/new wife, misty croslin, skips town again. that's right, again. this time headed to orlando with a female friend. why? we also learn misty still has not spoken to police since she's been back from her last out-of-town trip. all this as misty's mom is now in a florida jail.

has she finally talked to police? what does she really know? >> they go out and look for the right person, they would have the answers. but they're trying get all the answers from me that i don't have. >> huge bombshells in the search for haleigh cummings as tensions rise. nancy grace confirms new wife/baby-sitter misty croslin has left satsuma, florida, again, now for a second time. this time heading to orlando with a girlfriend. why? what is misty hiding? >> what misty needs to do is come forth and tell the truth. and she's obviously not doing that because there are inconsistencies in her very self-serving story and the truth doesn't have versions, at least not coming from one person. >> misty croslin still hasn't spoken with police since her last trip out of town. why not? >> i'll answer any questions i have to because i know i didn't do anything to that little girl. i would never hurt her. >> miss neves, i don't mean to grill you, but it just doesn't all fit together.

>> to me it's a very dysfunctional family, and that's the best way i can describe that. i just don't know what to think of the whole thing. >> all this while misty's mom now sits in a florida jail cell, extradited from tennessee after being arrested for allegedly stealing checks. now that she's back in florida, have police questioned her about haleigh? >> they're going to have to come up with enough evidence, or she's going to have to get an overwhelming amount of fear or pressure from her family to come clean. otherwise, she's just going to hide and run like she's doing right now. >> i'm not hiding anything for anybody, and if somebody has something to do with it, let them fry. so be it. and tonight, breaking news to kansas. a beautiful teen girl vanishes. police say she's in danger. 18-year-old coed keighley ann yalea disappears just after witnessing a violent fight between her friend and her ex-boyfriend.

in the last hours cops find keighley's car just five miles from her home. but no keighley. law enforcement searching for clues. tonight, where is 18-year-old keighley? >> a beautiful teen girl simply vanishes into thin air. >> a beautiful teen girl simply vanishes into thin air. and tonight, kansas police looking for your help. 18-year-old keighley ann alyea last seen in her own home. police say they're urgently concerned because just days ago keighley witnessed a fight between a friend and that friend's brother. which escalated until the police were called. the friend's brother is keighley's ex-boyfriend. >> my gut's not telling me good things right now. >> since reporting her missing keighley's family has been worried sick. >> i've been through a lot of things in my life and i can honestly say i've never felt

this way before. >> police unable to locate keighley or track down her vehicle about five miles away from her own home. that green mazda now being processed for evidence. police hit a dead end checking keighley's cell phone activity as three men have been questioned and released in the desperate race against time to find keighley. >> it's just like there's a huge part of me that's missing, and it's not going to be right until i find it. good evening. i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. tonight we just confirmed haleigh cummings, stepmom/baby-sitter/new wife, misty croslin cummings, skips town again. that's right, again. this time she's headed to orlando with a female friend. >> okay, sir, let me talk to your wife. let me get some information from her. okay. can i talk to her? okay.

>> how the [ bleep ] can you let my daughter get stole? >> breaking news. shocking developments in the case of missing 5-year-old haleigh cummings. after weeks of rising tensions, stepmom misty croslin leaves town and comes back. but now nancy grace confirms misty has left town again, this time with a female friend to orlando. what's going on? >> she doesn't have a job. ronald cummings has put so much effort into trying to find his missing 5-year-old daughter he has been let go from his job. how does she manage to stay down at disney world for a week? >> we need to find my daughter. >> okay. do you think misty holds some information that could help do that? >> i don't think she holds any information that's going to find haleigh. >> misty still hasn't spoken to police since she's returned from per last trip out of town. why not? when will the last known person to see haleigh finally talk again? >> if i knew where she was we wouldn't be sitting here today. we would have her.

>> it may very well be she doesn't know what happened to the little girl that night. but that doesn't mean that she was there or wasn't there. >> now that you've been told, whether you accept it or not, that your wife has flunked a poly, have you asked her what happened? >> i asked her, but that -- i don't get any answers. >> okay. gone again. where is misty croslin-cummings now? is she on a vacation? i doubt it. she doesn't have a job. no income. what is going on down in satsuma? or orlando? i want to go straight out to marlaina schiavo, nancy grace producer, on the scene there in florida. marlaina, come on, what is going on now? >> mike, i mean, the tensions are rising between ronald and misty. she's taken off again. she needs her space. now, we know that the investigation has heated up -- >> whoa, whoa, wait, she needs her space? >> you got it. she needs some space, mike. she -- you know, a couple weeks ago the investigation was kicking up again, we saw a lot

going on. there was a draining of a pond. there were allegations against misty, she was failing these polygraphs, and you know, she took off, she went to orlando, she got some space from ronald, she came back last week, but now, mike, she's gone again. she's on her way back to orlando with her friends. >> okay. who is this friend of hers that she's on her vacation, walkabout, whatever you want to talk -- whatever you want to call it? who is this friend? >> it's a girlfriend of hers, mike. it's a person she's met somewhat recently in the past year that she's become close with. and it's someone who is helping her out right now during this rough time. >> now, i know it's a rough time. she disappeared -- the bottom line is, where is little haleigh right now? she doesn't have a job. no income that i know of. help me out there if you know of any job she's got or how she's

earning any money. maybe she's down in orlando sitting by the interstate with a little cup in her hand and a little sign, hopefully "help find haleigh." also joining us there in florida is teresa neves. she is the grandmother of the missing 6-year-old, haleigh cummings, and father -- and mother of father, ronald. miss neves, thanks for joining us again. >> thank you for having me. >> look, what is going on with this family feud? and i'm not talking about the tv program. >> okay. which family are you speaking about? >> with the cummings family. you know, with ronald and misty. what is going on down there? >> there's a lot of tension. it's very tough, strain on a relationship when there is something that you think maybe needs to be told and you're not getting that information. you know, it puts a very big strain on a relationship. >> recently you spoke to nancy

and she says, and i have to agree with her, the facts of what's going on and her actions, everything just doesn't fit together. >> i agree with you. it does not fit together like it should. and we are working to cure that i hope. >> i want to go to ellie jostad, "nancy grace" producer joining us from the control room. ellie, when is the last time that misty croslin held a job and was making any kind of money? >> well, that's a good question, mike. we don't know of any jobs that she's held recently. and as we explained earlier, her family is out of jobs. ron cummings has lost his job because he's been looking for haleigh. i don't know where the money is coming from. >> miss neves, how is your son, ronald, supporting himself, and how is misty supporting herself now, you know, and her son? >> ronald received unemployment from his time and misty, the

friend that she's staying with tends to pay for everything. >> is she independently wealthy? >> i think maybe her husband is independently wealthy. >> okay. so ellie, is she staying with this woman in orlando, or is she staying at a disney hotel somewhere? >> you know, that's not really clear exactly where she's staying. now, the last time she was in orlando she was spotted at universal. apparently, she was taking in the sights there, but she did have on a "where is haleigh" button while she was there. >> i'm glad she had on that "where is haleigh" button. so she's out at disney world on vacation from a job that she doesn't have and she's just kind of hanging out just to kind of get away. let's unleash the lawyers. eleanor odom joining us from

atlanta, prosecutor in a nearby county just outside the city. peter odom, defense attorney. and alex sanchez, noted defense attorney out of new york. alex, if misty -- she's got an attorney. if misty is your client, what are you telling her? are you telling her, hey, why don't you go on down, cool your heels down in orlando, you know, take in the sights, enjoy yourself? while her daughter's still missing? >> i tell you the truth. i'm mystiied at the criticism that you're leveling against her. she's 17 years old. for months she's been under the scrutiny of the police. what is wrong with her going down to orlando? even if it's for a few days to take some vacation and clear her head and maybe when she comes back maybe she will be prepared to speak to the police. >> okay. >> and reveal some important information. >> ask me -- answer me this. if she is so concerned about finding her stepdaughter and she's the last one that had -- that knows where -- who was with haleigh at the time, why isn't she here talking to police out there looking for her stepdaughter?

>> because she has answered every single question that could possibly have been leveled at her at this point. there's no additional questions i think the police could ask her. >> oh! >> she's gone there. she needs to clear her head. and i think it's in the advantage of the investigation for her to go there and maybe speak to a friend and come back and say you know what? i want to reveal more information. >> okay. >> what's wrong with that, mike? >> did she do that the last time she was down there? no. no, she didn't. >> hopefully, she'll do it now. >> we're going to talk more about why she's on vacation when we get back. but as we go to break right now, a special get well tonight to nancy's mom, elizabeth. nancy's not here with us tonight because she's at the hospital with her mother. mrs. grace, everyone at the show wishes a speedy recovery, and you're in our thoughts and prayers.

what we need is for misty to come down here and tell us the truth. >> i'm trying to do everything to find her, you know? answer any questions i have to because i know i didn't do anything to that little girl. >> misty can relieve this pressure by telling her attorney we need to go town to the sheriff's office and really lay out in clear terms what i was doing from 8:00 p.m. to 3:00 a.m. >> do you believe she left the home and left the children alone, ronald? >> absolutely not. >> you stand very strongly behind misty croslin's story. what do you make of police saying that she has the answers?

>> i have to leave the investigative part of this to law enforcement, because, you know, if i go with every whim and every accusation then i'm going to be flipping back and forth in my life, and you know, what we stand, you know, we just stand for haleigh here. we just want haleigh to come home and i want them to find whoever this is and i don't care who it is. but we want haleigh to come home. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. okay. help us answer this question. where is haleigh cummings? where is stepmom, misty? she's in florida with her friend at disney world in orlando. she's not at home in satsuma. she's not there looking for haleigh. handing out flyers. she's not helping ronald, her father, her husband and haleigh's father look for little haleigh. she's down cooling her heels because she needed to get away.

we're taking your calls live. straight out to lakisha in indiana. thanks for joining us. >> caller: hi, mike, how are you doing tonight? >> good, thank you. >> caller: thank you for covering for nancy. all her viewers wish her mom to get better. >> we all do. as soon as we heard this today, you know, nancy always says prayers work and they do. we need your prayers also. >> caller: i believe in god totally. without god, nothing's possible. >> absolutely. >> caller: you answered my question when you spoke, his mom is nervous about where misty is at and if her and ronald was arguing. i was wondering about the letter that was written by someone that was sent out from the jail. i was wondering if law enforcement investigated that letter that was taken to the newspaper company? >> yeah. marlaina, there was this mystery letter that came about. what do we know about that letter? it was very strange. it was to the "st. augustine record." can you tell us about that? >> that letter, mike, came from a party friend of misty's, it's a girl who knew misty and was partying with her before mailly haleigh went missing.

the contents of the letter had something to do with the night haleigh went missing. police have investigated it, and for the most part nothing really came of that letter at all. >> ellie, there was also a mystery letter. what do we know -- i mean, very, very strange. it was basically -- it says, i'm reading right from the note, "check the back of father's mobile home from the right end of the mobile home extending out. continue for 540 yards straight and at that point go north 12 yards, dig 2 1/2 to 3 feet. will strike metal covering an old well. inside check black plastic garbage bags. circumstances extend statewide and beyond." it's signed capital s.a.m. what is this?

>> mike, this letter was dropped off by a woman who walked into the st. augustine record. she was a brown woman wearing blue scrub. after this video was aired on tv, the woman came in, identified herself and said she was the messenger. she was dropping off this letter from a man in his 80s. she says he's a former fbi informant, that this guy has special information and that he was able to give her this very detailed letter. now, police did check it out. they did go search this area and didn't find anything. they still want to talk to this man, if he exists, and find out what he really knows. >> did they drill this woman? i mean, did they really talk to her, finding out what her relationship is with this guy, and, you know, having been -- having been, you know, assigned with the fbi for six years i can tell you it's pretty easy if she knows his name or have an address to find out whether or not this guy truly is an fbi informant.

we call them -- they are called serialized because when you're an informant for the fbi, you come in, get finger printed, photographed and do a background check on you so they know whether or not this is true. >> right. right. >> her story's changed several times and i know my kids did love her. they told me that, and i just hope she would not have nothing to do with this. birth.

>> this is [ bleep ], we need to find her. >> they haven't left me alone for six months. i've been the one, the main focus. they just need to move on and look for the right person. >> i'm not hiding anything for anybody. and if somebody has something to do with it, let them fry. >> i believe haleigh is alive. i have faith in god to take care of my baby girl and find her. and i don't care who had

something to do with it. those are the people who need to be put away and bring my baby girl home. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. well, little haleigh cummings is still gone. vanished in the middle of the night. and the one woman that i think holds the key to finding her is down in orlando, again, vacationing or getting away with a girlfriend of hers. i want to go back out to our attorneys. eleanor odom, peter odom, alex sanchez. eleanor, with her going away now for the second time, and when she got back the first time, didn't go with her attorney over to talk to police. you know, as a prosecutor this doesn't look good for her. >> no, it doesn't. and why is she going out of town?

what's the motivation? i mean, i've had a rough day at work but i don't get to go to disney world and have a good time. but look at some interesting things. the very first thing i'd look at is how ronald referred to her when he made that 911 call and said, what did you do with her? and then how she failed the polygraph. her story's wishy-washy. she's traveled. she won't answer questions. all those things look very suspicious. >> yeah, you know, and also the initial police report that i've always said, he called -- he came home. and the whole timing of everything, as a former investigator, was very suspicious to me, too. and he just happened to say oh, yeah, and my dumb b-word wife. peter, i know you used to be a prosecutor, now a defense attorney. i asked alex. i want to ask you. would you tell your -- would you tell your client, if misty was your client, stay in town, cooperate with police, or go on down to disney world, relax? >> mike, she's not a person of interest. she's not a suspect. you know what i'm telling this kid? first of all, go on with your life. >> first of all, person of interest, you know, as far as

i'm concerned either you're a suspect or not. she hasn't been named. but when you fail three polygraphs now, two from law enforcement, one private polygraph -- >> and not a shred of evidence after all of that that she did anything wrong. she's a citizen who has the right to go anywhere she wants, and i would tell her misty, go and live your life and -- >> she's the one that holds the key to what happened that night, period. >> and she's told the police everything, mike. >> no, she hasn't.

i want to get to the bottom of what happened. i don't know if hypnosis is going to do it. they already tried to hypnotize her. >> aren't you of the mind that you should try anything? >> absolutely. if that's what we need to do, then that's what we can do. >> i wish they could have took me instead of her. you know, because i could have fought. you know, she's only 5. she can't really do anything. >> everything she says is crazy. >> i don't know where she is. >> we would love to have a break in this case, and we really would not care who it implicates as long as it brings haleigh back to us. >> what is her story about what happened that night?

>> the same thing that she's telling police, or whoever, that she put haleigh to bed, done some laundry, went to bed, and woke up to the door propped open. >> investigators have received well over 4,000 tips so far. >> you never know when the one's going to come in that can make the case. our main goal is the same main goal, and that's to find haleigh and get her home. >> i do not think that that many people, with a $70,000 reward, are going to sit at home and not say anything. anything that would bring haleigh home, that's what we want. >> was the bed made? >> no. i was sleeping in that bed. how would the bed be made if someone's sleeping in the bed? i wasn't the only one sleeping in it. but how would it -- me and his son. how would the bed be made if we were in the bed sleeping? >> they've been on me for six months. they haven't left me alone for six months. i've been the one, the main

focus. they just need to move on and look for the right person. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace, and we're taking your calls live. right now i want to go back out to teresa neves, grandmother of missing haleigh cummings. miss neves, when is the last time ronald spoke with misty? >> today. >> and what did she have to say? >> about what? >> about what's going on with her, when she's coming back, if she's going to talk to police when she comes back? >> she has not made any arrangements to talk to police as far as i know. i know that we have encouraged her to do so, ronald has encouraged her to do so, and right now i don't know what her return plans are. >> so right now what you're saying is she's not -- there's no plans for her to come back to satsuma at all right now? >> well, no, i'm not saying that. >> okay. >> she's not gone forever, i'm sure.

>> but when is she coming back? ronald didn't talk to her to say, hey, you know, when are you coming back to go talk to police? >> ronald may have said that. i cannot tell you. i do not live with ronald or misty. i do know that when she left -- i mean, before she left we have all encouraged her to speak with the police. so. >> and i know the main thing here that we want, miss neves, and please understand this, is to get little haleigh back alive. >> absolutely. >> that's the bottom line here. that's why we at the "nancy grace" show are here talking about this all the time, because we want to find out where this little girl is and who's responsible for taking her. that's the bottom line here. i want to go out to -- >> i appreciate it. >> absolutely, miss neves. thank you. i want to go out to noted medical examiner dr. joshua perper, author of "when to call the doctor," chief medical examiner broward county. dr. perper, great to see you

again. >> thank you. >> we know that haleigh has turner syndrome and she needs medication. without her getting the proper medical care, you know, i hate to say this, how long can she survive? >> well, it depends how severe is her condition, because her syndrome has a whole range. her syndrome is due to a genetic disorder in which instead of having xx sex chromosome she's missing one sex chromosome, one "x." so she's xo. she has certain physical abnormality and has a certain degree of mental abnormality, and some of those children do not need any life-saving medication, so it depends exactly or what stage of clinical impairment that she is. >> i want to go back out to marlaina schiavo, our nancy grace producer there on the scene in florida.

marlaina, as law enforcement, you know, as part of this task force, are they on a regular basis going to hospitals, emergency rooms to take a look to see if maybe someone possibly has visited there with a little child that fits the description of haleigh with -- exhibiting signs and symptoms of turner syndrome possibly? >> well, mike, the investigators are doing everything possible to find little haleigh. so, i mean, you know, you can imagine that they're going through all lengths to find this little girl. i mean, they follow up on every single possible tip. and they have checked in with every possible person they can talk to to find her. >> i want to go back out to the lines. melody from rhode island, thanks for joining us. do you have a question or comment? >> caller: yes, i have a question. when casey anthony was lying to the cops, they arrested her for lying. now, i know they're saying misty

is being -- she's -- everything's not measuring up, a nice way for saying she's lying. they can't arrest her for lying? >> well, to arrest someone you need probable cause, a set of facts and circumstances that would lead a reasonable and prudent officer to believe a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed. and with that case they had evidence and they -- i mean, she took the cops around and basically, you know what, i'm not telling you the truth, but in this case i don't think they have enough probable cause to charge her with lying yet. but i still think that she has the key and knows what happened that night. but time will tell. i want to go out to dr. jeff gardere, psychologist and author of "love prescription." jeff, thanks for joining us. >> mike. >> you know, everybody has different coping mechanisms. is -- you know, is this -- could it be a coping mechanism for

misty to just take off and just try to get it out of her mind in dealing with her stress? >> i think that's an excellent point and a great question. this is a young woman who is exhibiting self-defense mechanisms that are certainly highly inappropriate. haleigh is missing, maybe dead, god forbid. she had a very close relationship, misty did, with haleigh. so this is not the right thing for her to be doing. i think it's simply a case of if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. she's close to a nervous breakdown. ronald's all over her case. the media's all over her case. the "nancy grace" show is really pushing her to get the truth. and i think she's just skipped town because she can't stand the pressure. >> you know, that's a good possibility. but you know, i still say she should be here with ronald, trying to find haleigh. i don't care if it's out there passing out flyers. go down to orlando, pass out flyers down there. but to be seen wandering around

universal, having a good time, you know what? it just doesn't look right. back out to the lines. janet from alabama. >> caller: yes, mike. i have a question about the pond that was drained. could it be deep enough that if her body was in a black bag that it could have sunk under the mud and so forth that was in there? >> that's a good question because, you know, a lot of ponds have a lot of silt at the bottom. marlaina, you're down there. this pond that they drained, did they find anything? >> unfortunately -- well, actually, fortunately, mike, they did not find anything. i mean, teresa neves sitting here with me right now, she wants them to be looking for a live haleigh. but yes, this pond was drained and there was no signs of anything like -- >> quickly, ellie, what led them to that pond to begin with? >> well, mike, there's a couple of things that led them to that pond. first, we know that they were searching bodies of water around the area where haleigh went missing.

also, there was this letter that marlaina referenced earlier, that suggested the bold could have been disposed of in a pond. now, police won't say one thing led to another. they say they were planning to drain that pond anyway. >> well, you know, it's unfortunate that they didn't find anything, but i'm glad that they could at least check that off their list of somewhere that haleigh is not. to tonight's safety tip. the last person you want coming in through your front door is a burglar. here's what you can do to stop them. make sure all doors have dead bolt locks. if you don't have them, buy them. never, ever, under any circumstances leave a key under your front doormat. i don't care. and always, always check the peephole before answering the door. verify the person at the door who is there to claim -- are they a delivery person? make sure they are who they say they are. make sure to stop newspaper deliveries and mail deliveries if you're going away.

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i just got home from work. my 5-year-old daughter is gone. i need somebody to be here now. i'm telling you. >> listen to me. listen to me. we've got two officers -- >> if i find whoever has my daughter before you all do, i'm killing them. i don't care if i have to spend the rest of my life in prison. you can put it on recording. i don't care. >> it's okay, sir. we've got them on the way. can you give me any -- what kind of description of the pajamas that she was wearing? >> i don't [ bleep ] know. i was at work. >> your back door was wide open. what are you talking about a brick? >> yes. >> what is the brick? >> it's on the back door, on the stairs. we have, like, a walkway. >> uh-huh. and there was a brick laying there? >> yes. it's still there. >> was your back door locked, do you know? >> yes. the back door always stays locked. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. what you are listening to is the 911 call from haleigh's father, ronald, the night that he got home and found that his daughter had vanished from her bed in the middle of the night.

i want to go back out to our attorneys, eleanor odom, peter odom, and alex sanchez. all right, alex. you and i talked. you don't think -- you think that she can go and do what she wants to do. but when she comes back, if she was your client, are you telling her to go to police and -- because come on, you've got to agree with me, alex, she knows more than what she's telling. >> i'm interested, and i'm sure she's interested, in seeing that child returned. so the first thing i would do is have her come to my office. we would sit down, have a full discussion. and i would certainly encourage her to speak to the police and provide any information which would be helpful in the return of this child. >> peter. yes or no? does she know more than what she's telling? yes or no? >> no. absolutely not. she's told the police repeatedly. >> thank you. that's no. eleanor? >> well, i think, of course, she should talk. of course, i'm the prosecutor.

i'm looking at a completely different light from these two defense attorneys. but her actions speak louder than words, mike. look at what she's doing and what she's not doing, and that's talking to the police. >> her inactions speak louder than words. >> exactly. >> listen to law enforcement. you know, i'm a former investigator, and i agree with them. she knows more than what she's saying. back out to the lines, lisa from louisiana. thanks for joining us. >> caller: yes. i have wondered -- i know ronald had supported misty early on saying he believed that she was being truthful. is that still his opinion now in light of the new things that have become -- surfaced in the last week? >> well, let's ask ronald's mother, teresa neves, joining us there in florida. is he still supporting misty's claim that she doesn't know anything? >> ronald is doing the best that he can to encourage misty to get with law enforcement and tell them anything that she may have forgotten, may have left out. ronald is -- he is trying to do both, you know? he wants to support his wife, but he wants haleigh home more

than anything and he is going to do whatever it takes to get her home and get those answers. >> and we want to see little haleigh come home. thank you, miss neves. we're going to switch gears now. we're going to go to overland park, kansas, where a beautiful 18-year-old coed has been missing for almost a week. take a listen to this. >> the urgent search for a beautiful 18-year-old kansas girl is on after she's disappeared. how could it happen somewhere like kansas? but tonight, it has. cops on the lookout for keighley ann alyea last seen at her own home. >> at the louisburg apartments by 87th and grant is where she was last seen by a girlfriend staying with her but it's here 62nd and foster where police recovered the missing teen's

mazda although one neighbor tells us he first spotted it parked by a dumpster the day she went missing. >> it was just parked there with the windows down and it had actually been there for a few days so i just wondered because it had been raining. >> after days of searching, law enforcement finally tracks down keighley's green mazda. keighley, nowhere to be found. >> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. a beautiful 18-year-old coed, just seems to vanish into thin air in overland park, kansas. what happened to this woman? i want to go straight out to marcus moore, reporter from cnn affiliate knbc joining us by phone there at the overland park police department. marcus, what's the latest from overland park? >> mike, the latest information we have is that they are still searching 18-year-old keighley, who was last seen tuesday night or early wednesday morning. and we know that over the weekend on sunday around 6:00 they found her car. that car was impounded as they started to look for -- or

they're going to look for some evidence. i know for some time they didn't go into that car because they were waiting on a search warrant. and so the question for us tonight is what, if anything, have they found inside this car is going to point them in the direction of where keighley may be or what may have happened to her? >> marcus, have they said whether or not -- or any witnesses who saw this vehicle parked there, have they said whether or not there was any visible evidence, possibly a sign of a struggle? what do we know? >> we know very little, mike,

about the car. and i can tell you that one of the witnesses we spoke to earlier today said he saw the car parked there and that the windows appeared to be down. if that was the condition the car was in when police found it, we don't know. but i can tell you the car was involved -- did have some front end damage done to it which was related to an incident that happened earlier in the week, where her car was damaged. now, that's all we know. we don't know what the circumstances were surrounding that or exactly how it got damaged, but we do know from police and family members that there was some damage done to that car, that there was a police report filed that would have been on monday of this week. how it plays into all of this, we don't know. we do know, mike, that they have talked to a number of friends and acquaintances, including a pair of ex-boyfriends, and at this point police have not named any suspects. but they have questioned a number of people, including one man who they later released. so that's where we are with this right now. we know police are looking for this girl who they believe is missing and in danger. they haven't said whether or not they believe foul play that i have played a role in this, but they are concerned, mike, that they haven't heard from her, she hasn't called and -- >> and they believe because of the circumstances that she could

be in danger. i just want to let everyone know one of our guests tonight, who is not going to be able to join us now, was pat hayes. he is the father of keighley, and he and his wife apparently have been called to the police station. for what, we don't know, but we hope to find out very, very soon why they were called to the police station. and the way he describes it is that she had taken in a friend of hers. a friend who was having some sort of ongoing dispute with her brother. the friend and her own brother. and incidentally the brother happens to be her ex-boyfriend. the friend and the brother got into a fight that night. they were arguing. apparently it became physical.

she was not directly involved but when the brother was leaving the scene, he apparently hit the car damaging it. that's why she's listed as a victim on that police report. >> more about this when we come back, as we go to break, a special get well tonight to nancy's mom, elizabeth. nancy is not here with us tonight because she's at the hospital with her mother. mrs. grace, everyone here at the show wishes you a speedy recovery and you will be in our thoughts and prayers.

>> i'm mike brooks in for nancy grace. so what happened? 18-year-old beautiful co-ed seems to have vanished. she was last seen in the wee hours of early wednesday morning but her car was discovered on sunday and some witnesses say it had been there for a while. now, i can tell you, as a former member of the fbi's evidence response team, there's a lot of evidence that they can glean from that vehicle. they should be able to tell if there's any kind of her dna,

anyone else's dna, fingerprints, hairs, fibers. do you agree? >> absolutely. they are going to look for evidence if any stranger was in the car that was not supposed to drive the car. they'll look for evidence of blood. they're going to look for any kind of damage to the inside of the car which may point out some kind of a struggle. they look at it very carefully whether they find something is another question. >> there's a plethora of things you can get from inside the vehicle. if i was the tech working that scene, i would be vacuuming that with a special forensic vacuum cleaner to find anything that we could in there. i want to point out, this police report they said that the cause of the accident was battery and criminal damage. we'll hear more of what happened.

tonight, let's stop to remember army sergeant titus reynolds, 23 of columbus, ohio. killed in afghanistan. a talented musician. loved god, his country and playing video games. was one month away from celebrating his first wedding anniversary with his wife, nicky. leaves behind his grieving parents, two brothers and sisters. titus reynolds, an american hero. thank you to our guests and thank you for inviting us into your home. see you 8:00 p.m. tomorrow night. until then, stay safe.

in new york, this is a show biz tonight news break. kate strikes back. she goes on tv and accuses jon of wiping out their bank account. her disturbing warning that their eight kids are in jeopardy. and the attorney for the suspect in the david letterman sex scandal makes a startling claim. plus the joke is on dave. tonight as the mystery of the peep hole sex tape finally been solved? but will erin andrews be forced to relive her nightmare in court. and i talk to china phillips. at the top of the hour. here on hln.