tonight, get ready for the weekend with some friday-night fights. jon minus kate plus nancy grace. do the math on that one. >> that's why they're coming off -- >> that's why the show is coming to a stop. >> quit arguing and work on your marriage. wouldn't that be a better idea? and go back to a happy family? >> love her. then world record holder and television legend regis philbin talks about everything. and you may know him as the creator of an obscure little show. called "seinfeld" the very funny larry david joins me. all this and more tonight.

i had so much fun with him on wednesday i had to have him back for more. joining me now is actor, comedian and author, david alan grier. his new book is "barack like me." david, is barack like you? how is he like you? >> i hope not. i don't think he would have been elected president. it's a play on words. one of the things is i'm not barack obama. i couldn't make it through the press line of "dancing with the stars" without cursing people out. let alone president. >> he is extraordinary. >> yes. yes, he is absolutely -- >> the movie "guess who's coming to dinner?" sidney poitier had to have a ph.d., had to work for the u.n. and be perfect in that film. i thought when obama was elected that is how perfect the black guy had to be in order to get elected. >> you're absolutely right.

i remember one point during the election, and i -- how much time and energy was spent by barack obama and his organization just proving to america, i'm just like you. there's nothing to fear. i have a wife. i have two kids. >> they still don't believe it. the birthers still believe he wasn't born in the united states. >> well, he wasn't. other than that, i still voted for him. >> he was born in hawaii. but people still think that he's a muslim instead of a -- they just make up stuff as they go along, you know? you made your case for america to vote for obama last year. let's look at this. >> all i got to say is white america, wake up. i'm talking about all the white folks who refuse to vote for a black man. i got news for you. he's not black. he's half black. he barely passes the brown paper bag test. >> what kind of studying do you have to do to pass that test? >> it's very simple. brown paper bag next to the skin. yes.

>> you know, comedians have trouble -- white comedians are having trouble making jokes about obama. do you think that they're scared that they're going to be construed as racist? >> i think for a while they were. definitely when i was doing "chocolate news." that was during the primary leading up to the election, and i know "the daily news," "snl," a lot of people were afraid to really say any jokes about him for fear of being branded racist. it seems to have loosened up now. >> he wasn't doing anything wrong. when george bush was in office, it was a bonanza. he was so -- he didn't read. he talked crazy. sarah palin is a bonanza for comedians. obama is not that funny, frankly. >> he's not. i think for america, we like presidents that stumble down stairs. >> we do. >> or smack their head into doors. that vomit in the laps of foreign dignitaries. that's -- you know what i'm

saying? i don't think barack obama is going to go out like that yet. because he is so tight. his thing is so smooth. you have to find -- >> have you found anything yet? do you see a hook? >> i am looking very closely. >> we're relying in the comedy world on black comics to come up with the material. >> i find a lot of comedy about him but it's more along the lines of what you saw in the "chocolate news." it's not -- i mean, i don't see a lot of comic flaws or things about his character that i can exploit and say, wow, you know how he blinks his eyes? no, he's not that guy. >> the jokes are about how perfect he is. how boring it is to have a perfect president. >> how perfect i am. >> how perfect you are is even better. you are not that perfect. you did march with martin luther king. >> i did. >> that's a great thing. in 1963. how old were you? >> i was a little, little kid. i remember -- here's what it is. when martin luther king jr. came to detroit, it was his march on poverty.

and he gave a preliminary version of the "i have a dream speech," and he was invited to detroit to march by reverend c.l. franklin, aretha franklin's dad. >> oh. >> yeah, so my parents, our whole family marched whether i wanted to or not. i was a kid. i wanted to play ball. i wanted to play with my friend. i didn't want to put on church clothes and march all day with my parents. i was bribed with ice cream, but it was one of those situations where my mom said, look, this will be historic. you will remember -- >> sure, any kid could go to play baseball. that was an historic moment. on the other side of things, you also tried to join the black panthers when you were a teenager. >> yes, yes. >> that was kind of like the -- i mean, they were not exactly the most peaceful group. >> no, they weren't. >> martin luther king was nonviolent. the panthers, they were, and decided to riot in 1968 democratic convention. >> that was sexy back then. from '63 to by the time i was 15, i mean, to be revolutionary,

to talk that talk was sexy, was smooth, was cool. i couldn't wait to be, you know, a black panther. of course, they wouldn't let me join. in my book i talk about the death of the black man. when i was a kid, that's what we wanted to be. the death of the angry black man. i wanted to be link from mob squad with a big afro and telling white people, you know, forget you. i want to be that belligerent guy. because when we were kids, we were like, oh, that dude is cool. you know, you know? >> do you think you'll join the gray panthers? do you think that will be cool? >> probably. probably. >> your dad, your dad wrote a book called "black rage" in 1968. your father's a writer. >> yeah, he wrote a couple of books and he's still militant after all these years. >> he still is? >> yeah. when i was kicked off of "dancing with the stars," he wrote me an e-mail and said, is it too early to call racism? do you think these white folks

were jealous of a good looking black man who went to yale? they couldn't take it. i was like, calm down. calm down, eldrid. don't -- don't -- >> i love that. >> he was absolutely ready to, you know, marshal up the troops. and do another march. >> what an interesting father you had. my father barely spoke to me. now, you also write you're cool with gay marriage. i thought that was interesting. because as a rule, the black community is not that cool with gay marriage. >> who told you that? >> there's something called the down low we all know about. >> we all watched that ""oprah winfrey show"." >> i don't think the black community is cool with homosexuality. tell me i'm wrong. tell me i'm wrong. >> i can't speak for the majority of the black community, but i'll tell you this. there's probably the contingency of the black community that's very church going, that identify themselves as born-again christians, maybe they have a problem.

i, myself, identify myself as a heathen. i really don't care. >> you're a heathen? you don't care? >> listen, i'm getting a divorce now. if gay people want to get some of this, come get it. >> come get the divorce. >> they have a 50/50 shot at best for success, okay. i personally don't want to wake up next to me in bed, okay? i want something softer, more beautiful, feminine. that's my personal taste. you know, if gay people -- >> my field position is misery loves company. i totally appreciate that. >> i want to see gay couples stuck with their significant other that home depot with that faraway look in their eye "get me out of here." >> the glazed deer in the headlights, "please, god, help me." >> another indigo girls concert, no! yes, yes. >> david alan grier, thank you very much for coming on. >> your's welcome. >> it's really been a pleasure to see you. okay. back in just a minute with larry david.

i love this guy. he's a captain of the tv industry. he produced and co-created a little megahit called "seinfeld" and created a starring vehicle for himself. let's take a look. >> you know if there is anything i can do, you'll let me know. >> you know what? there is something you can do. >> what? >> yeah. you can come over today at 1:00 and visit with her. >> visit her? >> yeah. >> what are you kidding? >> what, you didn't mean it? >> of course not. >> joining me now from hbo's "curve your enthusiasm." my pal, larry david. welcome to the show, larry. does it feel like old times being here with me? >> in the sense that we worked together? >> yes. i don't think we've ever said -- i've never sat across the desk from you. >> you've sat across the table because in 1987 when i was doing

some show called "way off broadway" for lifetime, remember that? >> of course. >> you were writing for me on the show. you used to come over to my apartment with really a stack of notes and concepts. your mind was always filled with ideas. then we worked out the stuff and we would then order in and the show would pay for it and you would get so excited. they're going to pick up the check? they're going to pay for this? >> yeah. anything for free. you know, you'd take anything. i notice, now, like i have some stuff, you know, that i give away. you know, people in the office. nobody -- you can mention, like, a record from 1970 -- yeah, i'll take it. anything that's for free, people will just take. they don't discriminate. they don't care. >> they still want it. >> they want it, yes. >> but -- >> it's the best way to get rid of your garbage. really. >> after that, the staff, they hang around here. we have hank gallo and frank

santopadre. >> like gallo and santa padre. we call them the explorers. don't they sound like -- >> yes, yes. >> i want to show a little clip of you doing standup. >> no, come on. seriously. really? are you going to run this by me? >> come on, let's just show it. >> chuck scarborough, who's the -- he writes the anchorman. he's the kind of guy you want to play tennis with. he's such a nice guy, you can cheat the pants off. >> i didn't hear what i said. >> doesn't matter. doesn't matter what you said. i can't believe they dug that up. >> what the hell is that? >> that's you, i guess. >> yeah. yeah. >> you look better now. i like you. you're so cute now. >> see, that's young larry. he resents that. yeah. you know, last night somebody came up to me and said, my god, you know, you look so much

better in person than you do on tv. >> i hate that. >> i said, what is that? is that supposed to be a compliment? what, i look like a dog on tv? i don't get that. >> fix you up for television, so you should look better. >> look better, yeah. >> you are a very -- i remember you from the old days of "catch a rising star." you were what you would call a temperamental comic. >> yes. temperament temperamental. >> the comics always loved to come into the room and say, larry's getting up. everybody would look at their watches and see how long you'd last. >> they didn't know if i was going to have a break down on stage. yes. you didn't know what was going to happen. >> what would happen to you when you would get up there and didn't get the first laugh, let's say? >> i didn't? i don't like it -- i don't react well to adversity. i'm a baby. you know? really almost the way that john mcenroe used to be when he played tennis if a call went against him. "what, you -- what?" that's how i was. something went against me.

if a person -- i could be doing great. if i saw one person talking during the whole thing, i'd go "hey, hey, you!" "oh, what, you don't like this?" oh, look, you don't like this? >> then you'd walk off. then you'd leave. >> i can't do this. i'm getting out of here. >> that stops -- >> one time i actually -- i've done this story before. i went up on stage, it was "catch a rising star." went up on stage and looked at the audience and i went, i don't think so. >> just the way they looked. >> just the way they looked. >> was enough. >> and i left. yes. >> you didn't have any money in those days. >> no. >> you don't have cab fare. you were living in that dungeon for actors. >> yeah. >> the manhattan plaza. >> the manhattan plaza. now you have money. very successful. you made a lot of money on "seinfeld." really a lot of money. not like my kind of money. your money. big money. >> let's not forget i got divorced. >> i know.

california, she took half, didn't she? >> yeah. >> that is outrageous. >> isn't that crazy? >> you are the one who's funny. you're the one who made all the money. why should she get half? i don't get that. you must have got hit with the economy a little bit, too, right? >> yeah. so, you know, i really don't have anything near what's -- >> but you had. that's so good. you can't live -- >> i'm not complaining. >> no, don't complain about it. in the new season of "curb" you have arranged for a "seinfeld" reunion. am i right? >> yes. >> okay. let's take a look. >> why would we do something like this? i mean, i remember you talking about whenever a sitcom does a reunion episode, you say, isn't this pathetic? >> i said pathetic. >> desperate. pathetic. when we would watch other shows and see them do reunion shows you would look and make that face, that very judgmental face of yours. >> who did you call first? did you call jerry first? >> jerry. >> yeah, and then who?

>> people ask me that question and i'm not telling them. >> why did you decide to do it now? the reunion? just like that? >> i had the idea a few years ago, and hurricane katrina came along and the thought of the idea about taking in the blacks, which became the art for that season. that seemed topical at the time to coincide with katrina. i needed to exploit that tragedy any way i could. >> as only you could. >> so then i did that. so i still have the idea. and i thought this season -- maybe, maybe we could do this. but it was a very ambitious thing to undertake, really. >> to get them all together. >> to get them all together and to get all those schedules down and get all the sets and all that and then write the shows. what were the shows going to be? it's one thing to say you just want to do a reunion, but what's

it going to be about? >> you're thinking all the time about those shows, aren't you? always thinking about the plots. >> yes. >> everybody loves to work on "curb" because you don't have a script. they improvise and make it up within your parameters. you haven't exactly asked me to be on, over the years. >> i haven't exactly or haven't asked? >> haven't asked. one of my spies told me -- >> we had suzy epsin on -- >> we're the same person. one of my spies told me michael richards is in one of the things, something about him. i don't know what it is because the information is not out. could it be that hysterical craziness he went through saying the "n" word in the club. >> what about it? >> is the episode going to be about that? >> he's not on just one episode. >> one of the episodes. >> we will touch upon it, yes. we will touch upon it. >> let's talk a little. is there anything else you want to tell me about "curb?" any little secrets or any little things that are going to happen? you're single now on the show.

>> yes. "curb" larry is single and the real larry is single. >> yes. >> so we're seeing parallels, right in the scripts? are you going to meet another woman? >> i have a couple of dates. >> in reality or on the show? >> no. hopefully -- hopefully i will have a couple of dates in reality. i kept my fingers crossed. i've been divorced two years. maybe one day i will have a date, but, no, on the show i have, you know, two episodes, two dating episodes. >> two dating episodes. you dating anyone in real life? >> presently, no. >> no? you're loose? >> yes. >> oh, wow, i'm putting that out right now for all you women. woody allen -- >> i'm loose -- and promiscuous. >> my kind of guy. >> i run the gamut. >> you cam e to the right place. new york is full of women who are loose and promiscuous. >> i've heard that for years.

>> do you think they're more slutty in l.a. or new york? >> i was part of the hippy generation, free love and all that. i kept going, where is it? i don't see anything. >> i missed it too, the whole sexual revolution. i am so resenting. just passed me by. >> when i come back i want to talk a little bit about your past. larry and i will be back. stick around.

you want to know what else is acceptable? it is totally and unacceptable you would grill my daughter, gracie, about whether i took her to a birthday party and then you call me a liar? >> who was that? >> i would say julia -- louis dreyfus. >> we're back with larry david for our final segment which i'm dreading already that you have to leave. i am. i love this quote. "the more people i offend the better." that's you. >> i said that? >> yeah, you said that. you had one show where you had to tell a girl who has cancer that you're breaking up with her.

vivica fox. >> well, no, i didn't tell her because the doctor beat me to it. >> i know. but you wanted to before. >> i tried to beat the doctor before she got the diagnosis, yes. >> you and newt gingrich have this in common. he told his wife he was breaking up with her while she had cancer. did you get the idea from gingrich? >> yes. >> you did? he was helpful to you? that's interesting. >> yes, very helpful to me. >> you know, they always say comics and funny people have miserable childhood. did you? >> no. i don't think i had a miserable childhood, no. >> no. >> you know, i used to do a line in my act, i had a wonderful childhood which was tough because it's hard to adjust to a miserable adulthood, you know? >> i can relate to that. >> no, but i didn't have a bad childhood at all. >> they loved you. you had a bunch of aunts and uncles around you. >> they loved me, you know, there's a -- parents -- i don't know, back in the '50s,

whenever, they didn't love like the way parents do today. parents, today, you tell your kid -- you know, 100 times, i love you. they're so sick of it. yeah, you love me. shut the hell up already. i get it. you love me. there's more hugging and all that today. you know, you see it, but you see it amongst everyone. >> doesn't it make kids insecure to keep telling them -- do they really love me or are they just saying this? >> who the hell knows? i don't know. in my day, i never heard any of that. there was no hugging. >> no hugging. >> there was only watching, you know? how's he doing? >> where is he? >> how's he doing, where is he? he's talking to a girl. what's going on there? oh. you know, there's watching. >> did they worry you might be gay? >> oh, god, no. >> there was nothing gay in the '50s. no one was gay in the '50s. >> no one was gay. no one was allergic to peanuts. >> that's true. that basically tells the '50s.

that's it about the '50s. >> by the way, women had no problems getting pregnant. >> no, that's true. nowadays -- that's because they were under 30. now they're in their 60s getting pregnant. that's the reason. will you come back and sit with me again when you're in new york? >> i will. >> this show is going to be on, we don't know. it's a hit so far. >> good. >> yeah. thanks, larry. i so appreciate you coming. it was great to see you. >> good to see you. okay. done forget to watch hbo's "curb your enthusiasm." one of the funniest shows on television on sunday nights. easiest interview you ever had. >> easiest by far and probably the best. >> thank you. ddddddddd

earlier this week i had the pleasure of talking to a tv legend. he also happens to be the world record holder for most hours on television. that was before regis philbin did this show. we start with a rare clip from his first show. take a look. >> they package things -- they wrap things today like it infuriates me to open anything. >> what do you think when you see that, rege? how many years ago was that? >> i think that was one of my best shows. you know, i started a talk show

in 1961 and it ran 3 years then they brought me up to hollywood to follow steve allen on the "westinghouse" evening show. >> yeah. >> of course, i just wasn't ready for that. on my show in san diego i produced it myself, i flew the people in from los angeles. >> power. >> i put them up at the hotel. i did everything i wanted to do. i got to hollywood, i find out i got a producer, i got a associate producers, i got writers and i wasn't prepared for that. i blew that wonderful opportunity. >> look at you now, how many opportunities you've had since that. >> it took me a long time to accomplish where i'm at now. >> so many co-hosts. >> yes, over the years. so many is right. >> you've had -- what was the first one? >> first one years and years ago was mary hart. >> mary hart with the legs. >> she had legs then, too. >> was she sexually harassed at her job? >> not by me. no, i saw her, i was doing a local show in -- i was going to start a local talk show on television.

i was doing the news on kabc in los angeles. i knew the show was coming and they wanted me to have a co-host. so i asked mary hart. she was one of the first. before that it was sarah purcell and cindy garvey here in new york. then anne abernathy. then kathie lee who stayed 15 years. now kelly has been there eight. >> it's been eight years since kelly? >> yeah. >> i used to sit in with you a few times. >> i enjoyed that. >> they never offered me the gig. >> who denied that? >> i had a job already. >> of course you did. >> you know, you're such a character, in ape certain way in the business. "saturday night live" has captured it. let's look at that. >> my god. >> i love these. >> look who's back! >> i'm back. >> look who's back! i'm back. i never felt better. >> oh, come here, reeg. mwah. >> very funny.

>> you find that flattering when you see that? >> i kind of enjoyed it. i don't know. i thought he was very good. the guy who started this whole thing was dana carvey, though, when he appeared on "saturday night live." i'm out of control! he would say, you know? honest to god, i never said that. >> you scared me. but you do act like that. >> i can't believe you recoiled. >> you really scared me. >> what you go through every morning on that panel of women? i scared you? >> you scared me. there's, you know, i'm on this new show now and i'm all by myself here. >> let me ask you something. how does it feel? it's strange to be without four co-hosts, isn't it? >> it does feel different. i don't have people interrupting me. >> how do you think they feel about you getting primetime spot? >> i think they're happy for me. >> you think so? >> you don't think so? >> when are four women happy for another woman getting something they'd love to have? tell me that! >> you're assuming they'd love to have another show. i mean, i have how to work hard. >> they want so sit here. they want to sit right here. >> sherry shepard has a -- a new sitcom. >> i'm on this show tomorrow night.

>> you're really making the round. >> i'm not making the rounds. people invite me. >> how many hours a week do you work? >> four. i'm on four days a week except when weep go to sweeps and then -- >> what about the millionaire show? you're on that also. >> i'm not on the millionaire show. it went off six years ago. can somebody help me here? >> what do you mean? aren't you back hosting? i saw you recently. >> it was for ten nights. >> all right. >> but thank you for staying in touch. >> do you think you actually saved the network like they say? >> i absolutely did. in the years that millionaire show came on, abc was desperate, more desperate than they are today. that's saying a lot. so, anyway, yes, i went on there and, bang, the show was an enormous hit. >> yes. you did. kathie always said -- or was it kelly? i never get -- it was one of them. >> it was kelly lee -- i mean -- and then kelly. >> so now you like kelly the best? >> do i like kelly the best? i love them all. they're all my girls, you know? >> how do you feel about the fact barbara walters is

considered a living legend and you're not? >> maybe because she's lived longer than me. oh. hey, hey. don't ever tell barbara that. >> no, no. she's not watching. >> wait a minute. barbara walters is a true icon if you want to call anybody an icon. no, honest to god, she blazed a lot of trails in this business for women, for people -- >> she's a pioneer. we wanted to get her a stagecoach recently. >> thank you. no, but she's great. i don't consider myself in her league to tell you the truth. >> why not? you're on icon on television also. >> no, i'm not. she interviewed fidel castro, you interviewed who? newt gingrich. >> i never interviewed him. >> you don't do that? you don't like politics? >> i really -- as a matter of fact i don't like politics. >> really? >> i really don't. i think -- it's so jaded now and everybody has to follow the party line. >> what about when fdr was in

office? >> then i interviewed him. >> let me ask you something. what do you think about leno's show? let's talk show biz for a second. >> well -- >> do you think he made a good move or what? >> the first week he did. ratings went through the roof and that. >> curiosity. >> it's a tough thing, isn't it? to do a variety show with all of the best the networks have got to put up right now. >> yeah. >> he may survive. he will survive this few weeks until people either make up their minds about what they're watching on the other networks and come back to him or maybe they don't. >> why did he give up his desk? the desk, all comedians need notes in front of them. need a desk. >> yeah. >> that was a big mistake. i'm going to call him. >> exactly right. i was almost going to call him and say, jay, don't give up the desk. >> get the desk back. >> the desk is everything. >> exactly. >> he wanted a different look. he wanted to have more of a variety show than what he had. why not do what they were doing before which was a big success? >> i know.

it's a tough slot. it really is. anderson cooper has been sitting in for you. >> he wants my job so bad. >> do you think he has your mojo? >> anderson cooper every night dreams about getting my job permanently really. >> really. >> he doesn't want to grow up like the wolf. he wants his own job. >> i think he has grown up like the wolf already. now, what about this halloween show you have coming up? i've heard you're doing -- what costumes are you doing? >> i don't know this year. it's yet to be decided by my producer. gelman. >> oh, gelman. >> he makes all the decisions. >> yeah. doesn't he listen to you? >> we all -- >> isn't he really your bitch instead of you being his bitch? >> i hear kathy griffin say that. how dare her say that about gelman. it was funny. i think we started the whole thing about the host getting dressed up for halloween. do you girls? do you do it? >> we're going to get dressed up. >> do you do it every year? >> every year. it ruins my makeup and hair. i despise it. >> if something changes it drives you crazy. >> yeah. >> we always come up with a

pretty good show. you know, i think it's a lot of fun. i just hate going through it. >> well, i mean, one year you came out as a woman and kelly came out as a guy, right? >> exactly. i did that, i think, with kathie lee and then with kelly as well. she does a funny regis, kelly. >> she does. >> oh, yeah. >> before we go -- i have to ask you -- >> where are we going? i want few hang around a little while longer. >> now you want to stay? before you were -- you know what? i know you don't do politics, but how about pop culture. are you shocked and upset jon and kate gosselin are getting a divorce? >> you know, she was on the show. i may have made a big mistake. i want to tell you something, i have a thing against reality shows. i think they are so fake. i think they are all produced before they begin. i think people know where they're going, what they're going to say, what the situation is. these things just don't happen. you know that. you have eight cameras set up. those these guys, the producers tell them, hey, this is -- i thought it was -- i thought it was a setup. the divorce. now i think it's headlines like a divorce, especially with a woman who has eight kids. >> exactly. i don't care if they have

at all. >> well, i didn't say i loved them either. i'm talking about what reality shows can do. >> look, if these shows -- >> you're a very attractive woman. >> thank you, regis. >> honest to god, with this lighting you can go all the way. >> the lighting is fantastic. never a dull moment with regis. back in just a minute with something that's been bugging me.

tell me something. has anybody in this country ever heard of a salad? the new food fad sweeping the nation is the donut burger. 1,500 calorie bacon cheeseburger with a glazed butter krispy kreme donut in place of the bun. it looks gross like some kind of giant zit waiting to explode. all that's missing is the whipped cream, maple syrup and pepperoni pizza. the combo platter comes with a side of fries and defibrillator. according to the center for disease control, 65% of americans are obese or overweight. 66% if you count rush limbaugh's head. can i ask a question? exactly how big a burger do we

need? we have quarter pounders, half pounders, fat burgers, in-n-out burgers. i'm sorry. nobody needs to eat half a herd for lunch. a bar owner in georgia claims to have invented it and named it the luther burger. in honor of luther vandross who by the way, died of a heart attack at age 54. is this the best way to honor him by seeing how quickly they can get luther's fans to join him? heart disease is the number one killer in this country. which makes me wonder -- are the people selling these two tons of fun cooks or killers? that's a little harsh, but think about it. if tobacco companies have to put warning labels on cigarettes, why not do the same thing on donut burgers? hey, tubbo, when you're finally done chewing, feel free to call 911. that should do it.

i would love to be mom and dad. >> hey, you talk the talk but you don't walk the walk. go out with one 22 after the next while she's at home with the children and say you want to work it out. that's not working it out, jon gosselin. >> nancy seems a little annoyed there. here to talk about the latest in the jon and kate melodrama and a few other things, comedian kathleen madigan. editor-in-chief of "maxim" magazine. joe levy. comedian and commentator, chuck nice. he's nice. is there any woman in america this guy can get along with, jon gosselin? >> no, had he never seen her program? what did he think she was going to do? >> add stupidity to the list that he would think he would get along with nancy grace. >> completely dumb. every time i see him on tv, he's saying i don't want to be on tv. you know what, that makes you and 300 other million people, jon. quit going. quit showing up. that's where television shows are taped, at tv stations. >> tv studios. exactly. >> right. >> i watch that, i see a woman with blond hair laying into him really giving it to him.

i think he must be having a flashback to his marriage. >> yeah. he's used to it. >> he's panicked. >> that's a very good point. >> he was dumbfounded. >> kate is here. >> we have another sound on tape as they call it around here from that show. let's see this. >> i just love it. why is this always about you? why are we talking about you? she asked you about your children. >> because he's an important part of his children. >> can we speak without you piping in? i would look to hear -- how does it always get back to you? >> i don't know. i just thought, you know, you need -- >> that's a good place to start. >> does, does -- duh, duh, duh. >> you know, love and hate is so close. maybe nancy really likes him. >> you know, it's really good to see him actually hold his own with a tiger like that. you know? to be able to get in there and fire right back, you know? >> he's on television here. she's in new york on your show. who's in pennsylvania? who's raising these children?

like -- >> should change the name of the show to "plus 8." get both of them out. >> just "plus 8." >> two of the kids are super annoying. let's get rid of them too. and down to this six. >> come on. >> no, they're really annoying. >> here's what he said, jon gosselin. when we told the kids we were going to get divorced, the 5-year-olds said, they all speak at the same time, i guess, and they said, what's for lunch? they all said. >> see, even they knew it was coming. >> his point being they don't really care that the parents are getting divorced. you buy that? >> i don't. >> i just think they want to make sure they're going to be fed. they're worried about their parent's income. is there going to be food? these are basic questions. >> i don't think they realize these people are their parents anymore. >> there's a key grip they call dad. >> maybe it's the camera crew? i think they'd miss the camera crew, wouldn't you? >> those people are nice to them. service lady has hershey's kisses. you're going to like those people if you're a kid. >> why doesn't the crew adopt

those kids and dump the gosselins? that's an idea. >> that would be great. "the crew plus 6 minus the two annoying ones." >> speaking of the not bright groups, let's move on to levi johnston. he's going to pose for "playgirl" online. is alaska ready for this? >> is the internet ready for this? >> every gay man in america is ready for it. they're excited. >> did you see those photos of him topless in "gq?" shirtless, holding the baby. >> he's been going to the gym for six months. >> he's working out. >> may need more than six months. >> yeah. >> when you saw him in the pistachio commercial, he had a beer gut. he's been throwing them back. >> he's young. >> he'll work it out. he's a kid. you know? >> i say go for it, make the money now. two months from now no one's going to know his name. so if someone is willing -- >> if that were only true. >> no. >> he'll be gone. >> i'm not eating any of those pistachios if i ever lay eyes on that spread.

that's all i'm saying. >> do you think he knows -- >> it's not like he has a career plan that he might ruin by being naked. >> that's true. >> i was going to run for president, but i took naked pictures of myself. >> what about the apex technical school? can he go there? something like that, you know? >> something where he has a tool belt. >> does he realize playgirl is basically a magazine for gay guys? do you think he knows that? >> no. no there are only two gay people in alaska. they haven't told him. >> why don't we -- i'll tell you, you know what, why don't we put him in -- i don't think he's going to look that good in a bikini. i don't think he's going to do the waxing that's necessary. i question his commitment. >> that's where you're wrong. i say keep the mystique. go for the bikini. don't do the nude thing. go for the bikini. >> i think if you told him we'll give you $100 if you let us wax you, he'd be like, all right, dude. that's all it would cost. >> i think he'd give you change. >> he'd be on the first bus to

brazil -- he thin tick ticks thinks you get there by bus. you know who else is getting naked, serena williams. she's doing a magazine cover also. u.s. open something -- >> espn. the body issue. she's one of a bunch of athletes who have posed in some sort of state of undress. >> uh-huh. all right. >> i've seen enough naked men. there's no reason to see serena without her clothes on. >> oh. >> whoa. whoa. >> nice. >> she's not really naked, is she? >> she looks great -- i saw the pictures. >> is she really naked, though? >> covering the boobs and covering mrs. happy. she's like, you know, in a position. she looks very good, actually. >> really, isn't that a little too much? >> this one, i'll show you another one. oh, we have to break.

we're back with my fabulous panel. now, this one disturbs me. he spent 18 months in prison for operating a dogfighting ring, and now michael vick is getting his own tv show. okay, is it fair to say this show will not air on "the animal planet?" >> i'm going to say cesar millan is not involved. >> yeah. no, "the dog whisperer" will not be there. here's a deal with b.e.t. with for an eight-episode reality show. >> called "everybody hates vick." >> yeah, i mean, they keep rewarding these losers on television. >> if every episode was dogs attacking him, i would watch. >> they can just use him as a fire hydrant. >> that would make me happy.

do you think it will hurt b.e.t. at all? >> i think -- well, no. i think it will, actually. i take that back. there will be people who will not watch the show because it's about him. you know? there will be people who will just say, i'm not watching that. >> i don't think anybody is going to care. nobody watched t.o.'s reality show. >> whose? >> the football -- >> see, see, made a point. >> let's move on to another story we covered this week. everybody covered this one, according to a friend, alleged letterman extortionist joe halderman is a hell of a guy. i mean, they say he's very good. he's very nice. he was living with this chick, what's her name, stephanie. >> he only wanted $2 million. i mean, it's letterman. he could have asked for $50 million. maybe he is a nice guy. >> people have been talking all week -- "is it sexual harassment?" i felt it was a bit wrong. i thought that was a little bit

wrong. >> has letterman came on to you? >> he never had me on his show so i don't really care what i say. >> i was on six times and i never got hit on. that's depressing. >> he likes girls that work there because those are the girls he meets. he meets those girls. he never really goes out. he has a lair up at the top of the building. >> now we understand why he doesn't go out. there's no need to go out. the party's at work. >> i know. it's weird, isn't it? >> it's a little odd. >> i never thought it was a sexual harassment. what i came to this week, when i came to -- and i said it a couple times already, but if i was on that staff and i was not the one getting hit on, i would feel like, hey, she's getting a little bit of an advancement and what about me? >> right. >> let me tell you, i would feel the exact same way. >> she's in the sketches and you're running out getting coffee. >> exactly. i was talking to a comedian about the fact that if you were

in catch a rising star or the improv in the old days, you guys, the comics and somebody else was getting the 10:00 spots where you want to hone your craft and that person is not as funny as you are and getting the props because you're sleeping with the owner, you would not like that. i think that's how i would feel with letterman. that's the problem. >> don't believe anything you hear from these comics about me and the clubs i work at. i understand that's the rumor. but i think i'm funny and i think i deserve those spots. >> yes, you do. >> but you're also running on, what do the other women know? >> oh, they knew. come on, you always know. >> is there anybody who really thinks this is okay? he's the boss. he's basically signing the paychecks. >> thank you. that's right. >> it's david letterman. >> i hadn't thought of it that way. it does makes sense. he should have sex with women who work for him. >> he's very funny. >> if you're that funny you should do whatever you want. thanks for my panel for joining me tonight. that was a lot of fun. thank you for watching. good night, everybody.

breaking news tonight -- satsuma, florida -- a 5-year-old little girl tucked into bed. five hours later, she's gone, vanished, the back door propped wide open. daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little haleigh. the last person to see the 5-year-old alive that night, new stepmother, misty croslin. bombshell tonight -- little haleigh's disappearance. the nine-month search for the brown-eyed 5-year-old.

and the finger-pointing at the baby turned stepmom misty croslin, all finally take a toll. d-i-v-o-r-c-e, that's right, divorce. the two agree to formally split. but why now? has father ronald cummings worst fears been confirmed, that new stepmother misty croslin implicated in the disappearance of his 5-year-old girl? tonight, with us live, taking your calls, ronald cummings. >> last night at chili's. >> what did he do? >> said, will you marry me? >> the tensions are rising. she's taken off again. she needs her space. >> focus on my daughter missing and not what's going on in my

life besides my daughter missing. >> let me get some information from her. >> my little girl -- >> okay. can i talk to her? >> have you asked her what happened? >> i ask her. but that -- i don't get any answers from her about, you know -- i don't see -- what she's telling me is not inconsistent. >> -- they go out and look for the right person, they would have the answers. but they're trying to get all the answers from me. >> do you think misty holds some information that could help do that? >> i don't think that she holds any information -- >> everybody knows that i love haleigh and ronald and junior. i just want haleigh home. >> i have stated all along and i will continue to state that my grandchildren love misty and that misty loved my grandchildren. good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us.

tonight -- little haleigh's disappearance. the nine-month search for the brown-eyed 5-year-old. and the finger pointing at babysitter turned stepmother, misty croslin, finally all take their toll, d-i-v-o-r-c-e, divorce. but what, if anything, does it mean in the search for haleigh? >> everybody's probably going to take this marriage thing the wrong way, but it's not. it's still focusing -- things are still focused on haleigh. this is what haleigh wanted. she's always talked about it. >> when did you last see her? >> it was about 10:00. we were sleeping. >> what will it take for misty to come back home and tell us the truth? >> do you feel misty is the key to this investigation? >> no, i don't. i think they're barking up the wrong tree. >> ronald is doing the best that he can to encourage misty to get with law enforcement and tell them anything she may have forgotten. >> do you believe that misty was indeed home and that she's been telling the truth? >> yeah, i believe she's telling the truth.

>> i don't care who it is. but we want haleigh to come home. >> as you sit here, do you believe in your heart that they see you as a suspect? >> no, i don't. >> i don't either. i talked to the lead detective. his name is john legend. >> and he said? >> he doesn't think that she's a suspect. >> everyone, you are seeing earlier video from nbc's "today" show. i want to go straight out to marlaina schiavo, our producer on the story from the very, very beginning. she's joining us from st. augustine, florida. marlaina, divorces happen every day, they're a dime a dozen. why is this significant? >> nancy, this is significant because all along during this entire time, everybody's been questioning ronald. and they've been questioning

this marriage and why now, why after the last person to see haleigh gets married to the father of little haleigh. and now, after everything, they are splitting up. they've been saying for a long time that this has not been affecting them. they've been saying that they have not been fighting. they've been saying that, you know, misty was on vacation when she went to orlando. now we know why she's in orlando this time. it's because this marriage is ending. >> joining us tonight exclusively and taking your calls live, he's not afraid of the light of the camera or answering your calls. he has taken a lie detector test. we have been told that he passed. the biological father of little haleigh, ronald cummings. as you all know by now, cummings at work at the time little haleigh goes missing. comes home to find not a trace of her. all he finds is his then girlfriend at home with her hands wide open, "where's haleigh?"

ronald cummings, why now? why a divorce now? many people say your worst fears have been confirmed, that you along with the rest of the country, believe that croslin knows more than she's telling. >> miss nancy, i'm not sure that's the case. it's just we can't go anywhere without being -- you know, it's a hard -- it's hard enough to be a married couple, and then we can't go anywhere without being questioned or people staring at us or anything like that. >> okay. so you're getting a divorce because people stare at you? i don't believe that for one minute. >> no, that's not why i'm getting a divorce. i'm -- that's a part of the reason why i'm getting a divorce. >> then why are you doing it? >> the two of us -- the two of us have agreed to go separate

ways, and if in the long run something comes about haleigh then she can -- you know, it will be whatever. >> are you trying to say -- >> i still don't believe -- go ahead. >> are you trying to say in the long run you may get back together, in the long run she may finally tell you what happened that night? in the long run what? >> that, miss nancy, i'm not sure what's going to happen in the long run. i can't predict the future. but i would sure hope that just with the family problems and everything else it's just -- it's too much on the relationship. >> when you say family problems, are you referring to the fact that her family says she's not telling the truth about the disappearance of your little girl, her mother, her brother, and others? >> well, it's not only that. it's also, you know, the fight and everything -- it's just

everything. >> we are taking your calls live. with me, ronald cummings. today it is announced that he is divorcing girlfriend-turned-stepmother misty croslin, the last one to see this little girl alive, little haleigh cummings. the tip line -- 888-277-tips -- 8477. there is a reward for help in finding little haleigh. her family still believes she's alive. out to the lines. brenda in west virginia. hi, brenda. >> caller: hi, nancy. welcome back. >> thank you. thank you. and i'm going to thank you again. but thank everyone for your prayers for my mother. i really appreciate that. >> caller: yeah. what i wanted to know was why did they wait so long to search the pond? you know, that pond never went

nowhere, and all this time was wasted. why didn't they search that pond within a few days? >> good question. to ellie jostad, our chief editorial producer on the story, what about it, ellie? we heard all these stories about this pond. then, not one, but two letters emerged, detailing an alleged party late that night when haleigh went missing, a party fueled by drugs. there was an allegation little haleigh accidentally ingested oxycontin at that party, that she died, and that her body was disposed of in that pond. do i believe it? no. simply because, ellie, you know a bunch of people at a party are not going to keep their yaps shut. >> right. >> all right? that's the only reason i don't believe that story. go ahead, ellie. >> well, police won't say that the letter was the cause of the search. they said they already knew about this pond, they'd searched around it in the past and that they'd planned to do a more

thorough search. so they won't say there's a cause and effect between that jailhouse letter and the pond being searched. >> out to the lines. portia in florida, hi, portia. >> caller: hi, nancy. i'm actually calling from california. >> good to know. portia in california. thank you for calling, dear. >> caller: thank you for taking my call, miss nancy. >> yes, ma'am. >> caller: my question is has anyone, the police or mr. cummings himself, have they -- i understand that little haleigh has a medical condition. have they looked into whether or not she was given her medication that night, and if so, perhaps that would give them a better time frame of the last time, you know, that she was in the home. >> now, portia in california, that's an excellent question. to ronald cummings, he is taking your calls tonight on the heels of a divorce announcement in the last hours. he is splitting from girlfriend turned stepmother, the last person to see haleigh alive. her story has come under fire. misty croslin.

ronald, was she on medication for the turner syndrome? >> miss nancy, she was on medication, but at the time the only medication she needed was her albuterol treatment, which came in a breather. so all she has to do is a couple squirts and that's it, so that her asthma is -- so she can breathe well and she's not wheezing. >> correct me if i'm wrong, ronald, but the albuterol, the inhaler, you can't look at it and tell how much is in there, correct? >> no, ma'am. >> so you don't know if she used that before she went to bed or not. was her inhaler still there? >> yes, ma'am. >> so the inhaler was still there. everyone, with me tonight, ronald cummings, the biological father and guardian of little haleigh. the search is still on. but tonight, another wrench in the works. a divorce for ronald cummings and stepmom -- new stepmother misty croslin. we are taking your calls live.

ronald cummings answering your calls. as we go to break, i want to thank you for all of your thoughts and your prayers for my mother, elizabeth. i'm happy to report that tonight she is stabilized. once again, god answers prayers.

i love her like she's my own and i'll do anything to get her back. >> big news in the search for little haleigh cummings. we're hearing her father, ron cummings, and his teen bride, misty, are headed for divorce. >> ronald told her on sunday that he wants a divorce. on monday he headed to st. augustine to his attorney's office, and then by monday afternoon she was packing her stuff and she left town. >> just being married, it can be stressful, and there can be challenges. add on top of that everything that they went through during their marriage. i think it would be virtually impossible for any couple to survive that. >> she is the one that holds the key information to finding out what happened to this beautiful little girl.

i mean, who was with her? the last person with her? she was. >> miss neves, i don't mean to grill you, but it just doesn't all fit together. >> to me, it's a very dysfunctional family. and that's the best way i can describe that. >> they go out and look for the right person, maybe they would have the answers. but they're trying to get all the answers from me that i don't have. >> have you asked her what happened? >> i ask her, but i -- i don't get any answers. >> what, if anything, does a divorce at this stage mean in the search for little haleigh? taking your calls live tonight, haleigh's father, ronald cummings. let's unleash the lawyers. joining me tonight -- out of new york, family law attorney, child advocate sue moss. out of los angeles, eric chase. a defense attorney out of new york, renowned attorney jason oceans. straight to you, sue moss. weigh in.

>> he's divorcing her before the prom. maybe she'll go with her felon mom. i mean, only stevie wonder didn't see this coming. but this should be a simple case. and that's because florida's a no-fault state, which means either party's entitled to divorce for the asking. unfortunately, because of ron's being laid off, there's really no support issues, there's probably no property to divide, and certainly there's no children's issue because the couple never had a child together. >> to ronald cummings, ronald, who wanted the divorce? you or her? >> i think we both agreed on it. >> who brought it up first? >> i did. >> and what did she say? >> she agreed to it. >> immediately? >> not really immediately, but pretty close to immediately. >> so at first she did not want the divorce? >> not really.

>> eric chase, l.a., what do you make of the fact that a lot of people speculated she wanted to marry cummings so he could never testify against her? but in florida the law is very different than it is in a lot of other states. explain, chase. >> well, she would have been very wrong if that's what she assumed because in florida there's an exception to the marital communication privilege and that exception is if it involves harm to a child of one of the parents. she could have been forced -- i'm sorry, he could have been forced to testify about her if he knew anything. and by the way, nancy, it doesn't appear that he does know anything about misty's involvement in -- >> put up the lawyer. put up the lawyer. chase, he's divorcing her. all right? it doesn't mean he was there at the time the child went missing. but certainly, he has heard varying and conflicting stories from misty croslin. i mean, i have. and i'm 1,000 miles away. so don't say he doesn't know anything. okay?

>> well, you're right -- >> maybe he doesn't want to know anything. >> well, there's conflicting stories, but i haven't seen anything, any evidence connecting misty to her disappearance other than the fact she's been unable to retell the story the same way more than once. >> well, you know, jason oshins, to me, that's a problem. >> yeah. >> i've seen a lot of witnesses, a lot of witnesses, they'll add to the story. they'll say, oh, yeah, and i remember "x," and i remember it was a red car. and it had glass packs or it had -- this was the tag number. but they don't change the story. the story doesn't change. i have a problem with the story changing. >> well, it's -- >> to me that's evidence. >> nancy, it's the inconsistency. any good investigator will tell you that over time the consistency of the story, or for that matter the inconsistency will continue to lead investigators -- >> put chase back up. >> -- toward targeting someone. >> put the lawyers back up. chase, did you hear that? >> i did. but you were a prosecutor,

nancy, and you used to argue to juries -- >> so? >> you used to argue to juries -- >> so? >> that your witnesses had problems keeping the story straight as they told it time after time after time. >> i know you were going to make a point. somewhere in there. i'm wading through it. >> we don't expect witnesses to remember everything perfectly every time they tell the story. >> okay, not what i said. i said "the story changed." ronald cummings, did it ever disturb you that misty croslin's story actually changed? >> yes, ma'am, it did. >> i hope that they -- they find my child alive, obviously. but one way or another, i want my daughter to come home. i need some closure.

i just got home from work. my 5-year-old daughter is gone. i need somebody here now. >> listen, we got two officers -- >> if i find whoever has my daughter before ya'll do, i'm killing them. i don't care. i'll spend the rest of my life in prison. >> i didn't do anything to that little girl. i would never hurt her. i mean, they love me. they -- i mean, they look at me i would never hurt her. i mean, they love me. they -- i mean, they look at me like their mom. >> do you feel that misty has the key to this investigation? >> no, i don't. i think they're barking up the wrong tree. >> it's definitely an issue that she's 17 years old because she doesn't have those adult thinking skills that a lot of us would have, even though she's leading a very adult life.

>> the police have not -- still have not been able to put together a timeline on exactly what happened that night because of her inconsistencies. >> she took that police polygraph. i don't believe she took -- she passed it the first time. i don't believe she did. now this one. then there was that voice stress test. i mean, something is wrong with her story, ronald. >> i don't know, miss nancy. >> everybody knows that i love haleigh and ronald and junior. a family. just like haleigh wanted. >> the last holdout, the last person that is giving her an ability not to go out and not to tell the truth is ron. it seems to me that they should put their foot down and tell misty that the time for being vague is over. >> when you go to pick up your son and you see misty, have you tried to speak to misty croslin about what happened that night? >> no. >> why? >> i can't. >> why?

>> because she was the last one to see our daughter and i just -- i -- >> i mean, if somebody was the last person to be with my child, john david or lucy, and police say they have the key to what happened, i would at least say "what happened?" >> well, i haven't seen her since the results. but i did talk to her on the telephone, and she was telling me she had no problem with me and that she didn't have anything to do with our daughter going missing, that she was at home and all this stuff that everybody's saying is lies about her. that's the only time i've talked to her. >> okay. well, you know, you've got to take that with a box of salt because what do you expect the ex-wife is going to say about the new girlfriend, okay? that's never good. we are taking your calls live. to jane velez-mitchell, host of hln's "issues" and author of a fantastic new book we're going to talk about shortly. jane, what about croslin's

mother behind bars? they already put the squeeze on her brother, who coughed up quite a bit of information in a late night jailhouse interview. now mommy's behind bars on a forgery of a check. >> and she remains behind bars. and i think that the whole effort of law enforcement is to put the squeeze on this family because who would misty confide in? if she was going to tell one person what really happened that night? mama. of course she would confide in mama. and what's the best way to get mama to talk? keep her behind bars. it worked with the brother. it will ultimately work with the mom. although it will take longer. >> okay, jane, the mom is now extradited from tennessee to florida. in a nutshell, nutshell, what did the brother cough up? >> well, i mean, he essentially said he went over there that night, knocked on the door, and nobody was home at the crucial time when misty said she had put the kids to bed but she was still up and there was a tv on. so it just doesn't add up.

the brother essentially completely busting her story wide open. >> with me right now, mike brooks, former fed with the fbi. mike, thank you for being with us. weigh in. >> nancy, you know, as law enforcement says, the only thing about misty, the only thing consistent with her are her inconsistencies. two failed law enforcement polygraphs right from the beginning. they wanted tim miller to come back and help them look again, and he says no, i'm not coming back unless you take a polygraph. she took a polygraph. she failed that also. you know, there's just all the pieces in this timeline from the very beginning just don't add up. and if she wants to help law enforcement, then come back from orlando, sit down with or without your lawyer, and tell the truth -- period. >> with me right now, exclusively, ronald cummings. taking your calls. now, that's brave. not just talking to the police but talking to the country, live. ronald, mike brooks makes an excellent point.

why won't she come and sit down with police and talk to them? >> that, miss nancy, i can't answer for you. i'm sure that maybe her attorney can answer it for you. and hopefully that she will. >> uh-uh. uh-uh. no. you have to have talked to her about talking to the police. what did she say? >> we have talked to her about talking to the police. >> what did she say? >> she said she's talked to them. >> they want to talk to her again. why won't she do it? >> i have no knowledge of them wanting to talk to her where she wouldn't do it. >> okay. let's go to terry shoemaker, attorney for haleigh's father, ronald cummings. okay. you know, i know, the police know, the rest of the country knows the police want to talk to misty croslin. it's not a secret.

so how can she say with a straight face that she does not know they want to talk to her? please enlighten me, mr. shoemaker. you've got a good reputation. >> right. well, i think everyone knows the police would love to sit down and talk with her. it's my guess that probably her attorney isn't allowing her to do that, which isn't uncommon in this type of situation. >> okay. back to you, cummings. your lawyer knows police want to talk to her. so do not lie to me. you've never lied to me before to my knowledge. don't tell me you didn't know police want to talk to her again. we all know it. we've talked about it on this show, on national tv. now, i'm telling you, police want to talk to her. now, why is she back in orlando and not speaking to police? >> that i'm not sure, miss nancy. i already told you the same as what terry said. it's probably due to her attorney, his advice. >> she actually -- stopped by the putnam county sheriff's department today to inform them of where she's going and where she'll want to be if they wanted to speak to her. >> you know what?

i didn't get that whole thing. with me -- let me introduce you. brandon beardsley, family law attorney representing ronald. repeat, sir. >> my understanding is before she left for orlando that she stopped by the putnam county sheriff's department and reported in and told them where she was going if they needed her. >> did they try to question her? ? i don't represent misty -- >> did they try to question her at that time? >> not to my knowledge. all i know is what i was told. and of course it's hearsay. but i was told from a reliable source that she did check in -- >> well, mr. beardsley -- >> -- before she left town -- >> mr. beardsley, this is not a court of law so -- >> i understand that. >> -- you don't have to make your own objection on hearsay. all right? so, i find it very difficult to believe that she was at the police station and nobody threw a question at her. but who knows, for all i know she went in and -- >> well, they can't -- >> -- talked to the secretary. >> if she goes in and her attorney's not there and they know she's represented, they can't just question her.

you know that. >> yes, mr. beardsley. i do know that. but when someone voluntarily marches alone into the police station -- repeat, voluntarily -- certainly, you know, mr. beardsley, that even when one is represented by counsel, if they voluntarily speak to police, that is admissible in a court of law -- yes/no? >> yes, ma'am. you are correct. but -- >> we are taking your -- >> listen, all i -- all i know is what i was told. i don't know if they questioned her or not. >> well put. out to the lines. barbara in missouri. hi, barbara. >> caller: hi, nancy. >> hi, dear. what's your question? >> caller: i was just wondering why they aren't looking at misty's brother more. he put himself at that trailer. just because he said he knocked real loud and left does not mean he didn't try the door. we know one of the doors was not locked because there was no break-in. so what if he went in, everyone was sleeping, and he took the little girl? >> to marlaina schiavo, what about him? he does place himself there. >> he does place himself there. but to say that his door --

their door was not locked, we're not entirely sure what happened that night. we know the door was propped open on the side of the house, but we don't necessarily know who propped that door open. so we don't know if the door was unlocked, nancy. >> okay. we don't know if the door was open. that's not really knocking me out, marlaina. what about it? to you, ellie jostad. what do we know about the brother? >> well, we do know that the brother has spoken to police and they say that he's not a suspect, same with the rest of misty's family. police continually go back to their line they've said, especially since haleigh's birthday, that haleigh -- i'm sorry, rather, that misty is the person ho holds the key, that she's failed to give a detailed account of what was going on that night, and they want to know from any other citizen who might know what she was doing that night, they want them to come forward and speak to them as well. >> leslie austin, psychotherapist, new york, weigh in quickly. >> i'm not surprised ron is being really careful. he doesn't want to tick her off. she's the only one who has a clue.

she's not going to talk either. she just wants to save her skin. right now she's walking in the street, she's not in jail. why would she talk to anyone? like casey anthony. >> well, lesley austin, once again, you've made perfect sense. quick break, everybody. we're taking your calls. live with us tonight taking your questions, ronald cummings, haleigh's father, this on the heels of an announcement just hours ago, divorce. what does it mean in this investigation? and tonight, a special congratulations to liberty united methodist church, macon, georgia, hearing the call to serve others. they are building a beautiful playground, redesigning, painting, and kicking off their very first parents' morning out to serve others. today, the most beautiful playground equipment, swing set, tunnel, steps, the works, have arrived on the scene. it's love in action. and god bless the little children that are coming your way, liberty methodist.

it's not like a bicycle or a car. somebody stole my child from me. >> she's gone and that's all i know. >> there's a lot of tension. it's very tough for -- strain on a relationship when there is something that you think maybe needs to be told and you're not getting that information. >> we are taking your calls live. out to jane. thank you. okay.

ronald cummings, you want to take a shot of that one? okay, go ahead. go ahead, mr. beardsley. >> listen, this couple have been in the media spotlight for months. they can't go to the grocery store together. they can't go to the supermarket. >> mr. beardsley, no offense. you have a wonderful reputation. i've checked you out thoroughly. but nobody gets a divorce because somebody looks at them in the check-out line. i'm not buying that for a minute. what i am buying is that you guys don't want to tell me why the divorce -- or if cummings wants to admit he does not

believe croslin's story. that's his business. i asked the question, you guys didn't answer, but i want to bring this back to haleigh. a 5-year-old little girl is missing tonight. to dr. gwen o'keefe, pediatrician, and ceo and founder of pediatricsnow.com. dr. o'keefe, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure, nancy. >> a child with turner's syndrome, what problems does she face if she's still alive? >> you know, nancy, i've been thinking a lot about that. there's two issues here. the first is her asthma, and the second is her turner syndrome. with her asthma i'm very concerned that she doesn't have her inhaler. with the stress of being missing and with the change in season right now, especially if she's exposed to the flu, that is a gigantic concern. she's likely experiencing some asthma symptoms, and without that inhaler she's likely getting into trouble. with the turner syndrome we didn't hear about any known issues, but those kids have issues with growth.

they have issues with their endocrine systems. even if she doesn't have issues now, she needs very close monitoring of things like diabetes, possible heart problems, possible kidney problems, possible high blood pressure. there's a whole host of problems, including of her heart. so without very close follow-up, she could really get into trouble quickly. >> ronald cummings, along with lawyers terry shoemaker, brandon beardsley, thank you for being with us. mr. cummings, i can say that tonight for the first time i don't believe you. i think you do suspect your ex-wife, soon to be ex-wife's story. i think you don't want to discuss it in the midst of a divorce. why? i don't know that yet. but i'll find out. thank you for being with us. right now, with me, jane velez-mitchell. take a listen. >> the haleigh cummings case. did the little girl accidentally overdose on oxycontin?

we've got a copy of a letter that places misty cummings and little haleigh at a wild drug-fueled party the very night she disappeared. the author of the letter says she's just paraphrasing a theory police got from somebody else. the writer of the letter essentially claims the whole story is a big lie. tonight's big issue, keeping dark secrets. if misty croslin cummings does indeed know more than she -- >> you know, i've been reading my book, "eleventh victim," but forget about that. here is jane velez-mitchell, my friend, my co-worker, here on hln. jane, i'm completely knocked out. you know what? there's not a lot of ways to say it, but let me say it nicely. you've got a lot of guts. >> thank you, nancy. >> you've got a lot of guts. tell me about the book, "i want," by jane velez-mitchell. >> i wrote this book because i struggled with a lot of

problems. and why waste a problem? i've never thought about it like that. >> why waste a problem? yeah. i struggled with alcoholism for most of my life. i finally by the grace of god got sober 14 1/2 years ago. >> praise the lord. >> yes, praise the lord. it was a miracle. and i don't use that word lightly. >> hold on, let me step back. how did you -- i mean, look at you, you're young, beautiful, talented, smart, education, the works. how did you get in the bottle? >> well, i believe i have a genetic predisposition, which i describe in my book, which i dedicate to my father, pierce mitchell. my dad was a high-functioning alcoholic. so i think i had it in the genes. but i also saw it environmentally. i didn't realize people didn't drink every night until i got out into the world and started to see that other people didn't drink every night. >> you know what, that's crazy. because i never saw anybody drink until i went to college. >> and that's probably why you don't have a problem. >> somebody handed me a beer and i poured it into a plant because i thought it smelled bad. okay, now -- >> you're lucky. >> so you grew up in this environment. and when did you realize -- what made you realize you had a problem?

>> well, i blacked out. and that's the classic hallmark of alcoholism. i wouldn't remember what happened after a certain hour. and that was very, very terrifying. in fact, all the stories we cover, you and i, alcohol and drugs play such a huge roll. all the people are struggling out there and they don't have a clue, and i went through this whole process, they can save themselves a lot of hell and a lot of heart ache. drug addiction, it only gets worse, its progressive. >> and looking at you, i mean, nobody would believe you have ever had a problem. >> well, the people who knew me way back when would, because they saw me in action, and i was very lucky, i didn't get a dui, but i was a lush. >> jane velez-mitchell, you know what? she has a heart of a pioneer.

her new book, "i want." i'm so proud of her and i'm so proud she's with us tonight. and she's taking your calls. dd

right now on "showbiz tonight" this week. women at war over david letterman's shocking sex scandal. tonight, why are some of hollywood's most powerful women defending dave. >> it's not at all disturbing to me. but you know, men are men. >> tonight, the great debate. should women be supporting dave? tonight, the unbelievable two faces of jon and kate. kate cries poverty but then says she's buying an eight diamond ring. >> jon says he despises kate, then says something completely different. tonight, are jon and kate the

biggest hypocrites ever? plus, levi johnston goes nuts in a new ad. >> now levi johnston does it with protection. >> the father of sarah palin's grandson joking about unprotected sex. the weekend edition of tv's first most provocative entertainment news show starts right now. hello, i'm a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. this is "showbiz tonight" weekend. tonight, ladies for letterman. get your mind out of the gutter. there's a remarkable explosion for public support from david letterman from some of the biggest women stars on the tv and in the movies bespite his confessions about having sexual affairs with women who work for him. martha stewart is the latest to

come out in support of letterman. you have got to hear this interview with martha, including why she's saying men will be men. also in dave's corner tonight, barbara walters. why she's defending dave. "showbiz tonight" is also talking to stars in hollywood who are saying the same thing. hold on just a second, because the national organization for women is taking a powerful shot at letterman. what they are saying is getting women on both sides of the debate all riled up. right now new york is midwin charles, attorney with midwin charles and associates. and pat, investigative journalist. out of all the support dave is getting, the one that surprised me today was martha stewart, arnold the way she's defending dave. i want you to listen carefully. because to me it sounds like she's actually condoning dave's behavior with her justification. watch this. >> it's not at all disturbing to me, unless there was force involved, which knowing dave is not very forceful, by the way.

he's a very attractive man. very appealing. great sense of humor, obviously. i think all this was done when he was still not married. although it's probably still harmful to his wife of six months or however long they have been married. she probably didn't know all the details. you know, men are men. i've put up with it all. god. >> pat, let me begin with you and your theory tonight. you heard martha. she said men are men. does that make it okay? >> no, it doesn't make it okay. but i think in hollywood, a.j., there's this attitude that prevails that these are the evolved artist, we have a certain entitlement that others don't. we can do what we do because we're rich and famous and over 21 and we're free and we can make this choice and it's nobody's business. but i have to tell you something, i think a lot of people are afraid to say what

they truly think, because i think there will be a certain black list if you talk against david letterman. i think people feel, if i come out and say, oh, my gosh he's a heinous, horrific creech, something will happen to my career. martha stewart obviously doesn't have to worry about that. there's this quiet fear that we can't be the ones to come out and say what we really feel about what david letterman has done. >> i think you're making a terrific point especially as it comes to martha. they are friends to a degree. i think perhaps she wanted to support him, maybe didn't choose her words very carefully. midwin, let me come to you. i would think all women would be nearly unanimous in trashing him over this. what do you think? >> i think it comes to delivery. what david letterman did when he delivered that monologue, he delivered the truth. i think in this day and age when so many people are lied to by politicians, their employers, everyone down the chain, the way

david came out and told the truth, i think it was refreshing to people. that's why so many people aren't up in arms against him. did he do something wrong? clearly. having sex with women who work for you, sexual harassment, all kinds of things. the fact he came out, told the truth, didn't dance around it and was straightforward, people kind of respect that. >> i think that fogged the issue for people is what ended up happening. >> it sure did. >> martha has plenty of company in her support of david. showbiz was there for the premier of "good hair" one of my favorite stars told us, she didn't swear once, told us, she thinks letterman did handle the whole sex scandal perfectly. watch susie. >> i think he's been handling it brilliantly. it's not such a big deal. he's not like somebody that has been like the arbiter of

morality, he's a comedian. he's not out there telling people how to behave. he's not a senator or priest or a minister, he's a comedian. >> i'm hearing that from a lot of people, i totally understand what she's saying, he's not a senator or priest. but pat, he's still at the end of the day a boss having sex with staff members. >> he's also talked a lot about sarah palin's children. hypocrisy at the end of the day. he's another sleazy guy with power that yood used it to have sex with women. there's a lot of frat guys out there going, go dave. let me tell you who i'm really mad at. i'm mad at the women in the workplace, these young vulnerable women who still need their validation by the big powerful boss. oh, david letterman thinks i'm hot. what about these young women who didn't seem to care he was in a

relationship. who didn't seem to care they themselves were involved in relationships. they are using the workplace to do inappropriate things. i'm mad at these women. i hope they grow up before they bring young women into this world. >> it's interesting to hear that from you, pat. i'm not hearing that from a lot of people. let me move to another star supporting dave. barbara walters is making excuses for the behavior. watch what she said, lisa ling was a guest. barbara and joy didn't see eye to eye at all. >> he's a very attractive man. i can give awe list of executives and people in lower levels -- you know, where do you meet people? in the workplace. >> that does not eliminate the fact that if you're one of the girls who works there and you're just, you know, doing your job. and suddenly this other chick is getting the air time. >> that's not necessarily sexual harassment. >> midwin, let me ask you, barbara is a pioneer for women,

so it's a little surprising to hear her oncome out so strongly defending dave. perhaps her friendship with letterman is affecting her ability to think clearly or communicate clearly, which i can't do, on the subject. >> of course. let's be frank here. friendship will always trump these kinds of situations. have you to ask yourself, is barbara or martha stewart going to be unbiased in this situation. they are friends with dave. dave is someone who has been in the industry for decades like barbara walter and martha stewart as well. clearly if there's a friendship there, they are not going to say anything untowards toward him or anything like that. the point here is, it does trigger all kinds of sexual harassment things. if these girls engaged in a relationship with dave because they felt they had to because he's the boss, there goes the problem. i'm not necessarily agreeing with pat that these girls were all of a sudden wanting to do this. they could have felt the

pressure. >> hold on a second. i think the national organization for women really made a good point when they get involved with it today. they are blasting letterman, calling for cbs to take action against him because he's a boss in a sex scandal. here is the powerful statement they released. it's strong. multi-million dollar host of a popular late night shows. in that he weelds authority who gets fired, hired, fired -- very quickly, pat, how do you argue with that logic, even if you support david letterman? >> i don't argue with that logic at all, but i'm also seeing two sides to the point. these young women in the workplace that say, you know what, this isn't right. it stinks. a lot of women involved in the same thing with him. i'm not going there. >> i have to end it there. pat, midwin, thank you both. i think it's fair to say i'm not the only one sick and tired

of jon and kate gosselin talking about of both sides of their mouths. >> can't sit on the couch with that woman. i can't sit with someone right now i despise. i want kate and i to mediate, become friends. >> he despises kate now he's saying something totally different. you have kate crying boohoo, she doesn't have any money, then she's buying a diamond ring. are these the two biggest hypocrites ever. then we have levi johnston," the father of sarah palin's grandson joking. the ad for pistachios. >> just because he's saying he has swine flu doesn't give him the right to act like a pig, marilyn manson. he's videotaped at a concert blowing his nose on his fans. >> that's disgusting. pass me the hand sanitizer.

you've got to hear about the stars hit with the swine flu. "showbiz tonight" on hln. time for the ticker, more stories from the "showbiz tonight" newsroom making news right now.

welcome back to "showbiz tonight" this week. i'm a.j. hammer in new york. it's swine flu stardom. yes, even hollywood isn't immune to the scary, deadly illness. swine flu catching on with celebrities. jeanne moos with "showbiz tonight" with a revealing look at all the stars that have been hit with the h1n1 virus. >> reporter: it's the who's who of swine flu. the latest victim, one of the back street boys, brian latrell. >> unfortunately i was diagnosed with the swine flu. >> using youtube to apologize to fans for missing appearances. >> my job right now is to stay away from as many people as i can. >> is he almost crying? big boys don't cry, not even in boy bands. even harry potter's best friend

caught the h1n1 virus. >> it was just like the normal flu. >> news anchors are dropping like flies. cbs early show anchor harry smith called in sick from his apartment suspecting swine flu. >> they won't get within 10 feet. >> rachel maddow dropped the viral f bomb. i had the flu, capital f flu. >> which one, swine? >> yes. >> what? >> shared hand sanitizer with jimmy fallon. after tom arnold mentioned swine flu to tmz, he added insult to injury. >> actually i got the flu named after my ex-wife. >> reporter: that's polite compared to this. just because you say you have swine flu doesn't give you the right to act like a pig marilyn manson. on his myspace page he posted, i have been officially diagnosed

by a doctor with the swine flu, at the same time he was videoed blowing his nose on the fans. >> i don't know if they were necessarily rockets. >> at least one fan thought it would be an honor to get swine flu from manson. his concert promoter denied he had h1n1. cnn's sanjay gupta got it in afghanistan. anderson cooper got sick with something. >> i was freezing cold despite being in the desert. are you coughing? >> i'm still coughing a little bit. >> how swine flies when you're having fun. >> you have virile infections. >> it's the a list for h1n1. >> that's why i keep these right here. that's jeanne moos for "showbiz tonight" weekend. another victim of swine flu, the entire cast and crew of "bones."

fox announced shooting would be halted because the star of the show coming down with a swine flu-type illness. moving on tonight to director tyler perry and his horrific abuse claim. tyler is the super successful director of several hit plays that have been turned into films like "madea." he's telling his tragic childhood story about physical abuse. in a startling letter on his website he recalls one incident when his father beat him, writing -- tyler also claims as a child his grandmother actually tried to kill the germ that caused his asthma by bathing him in ammonia and that the mother of one of his friends sexually abused him.

tyler said he was compelled to tell his story after seeing the highly anticipated movie "precious" based on a novel about a girl's abusive life. tylerer perry and oprah winfrey are executive producers of the film. certainly a no slowdown coming on on calls about jon and kate. we got a call from ginger in arizona who thinks both jon and kate need to shut their face and stay off tv. >> i think it's totally ridiculous and i think it's outrageous that every time one of them has a problem, how do they end up on the "today" show or one of these news shows. it's totally ridiculous. i think they should both go away. >> we also heard from tammy, "showbiz tonight" on call in louisiana. tammy thinks kate needs to quit whining about not having any money. >> she was a nurse before she started the show. they make good money. i do believe that if she gets off the air, gets her life together, gets them kids off the air, where they won't be

exploited and grow up to regret this, then she can make an excellent living as a nurse not at mcdonald's. i do not feel sorry for kate. she brought this on herself. >> all right, tammy. i appreciate your call. you can call and let us know what you think about jon and kate or anything else on your mind. the lines are open all the time. just call. you can leave a voice mail so we can put your calls on "showbiz tonight." your calls to "showbiz tonight" on call are online on our home page, that is cnn.com/showbiz tonight. kate gosselin went on tv and told this sob story saying jon cleaned out their joint bank account and now she can't pay her bills. >> i have a stack of bills in my purse i can't drop in the mail. we discussed a ring i might buy at some point. it has eight little diamonds and mother-of-pearl. >> hold on. kate says she can't pay her

bills, then she says she wants to buy a diamond ring. what the heck is she thinking. then you have jon saying he despises kate, now he wants to be friends. really, are they just total hypocrites. michael lohan says his daughter lindsey is hooked on prescription meds. i have to ask, should this guy shut up. the ad featuring the father of sarah palin's grandson. >> now, levi johnston does it with protection. >> levi johnston joking about unprotected sex. yeesh. this is "showbiz tonight" weekend on hln. it is time for showbiz news ticker. these are more stories from the showbiz newsroom making news right now. they said it would never last.

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i have a stack of bills in my purse i can't drop in the mail. we discussed a ring i might buy at some point. it has eight little diamonds and mother-of-pearl. >> now on "showbiz tonight" weekend, kate says jon left her dead broke but she wants a diamond ring. jon says he despises kate and says he wants to be friends. what? tonight are jon and kate the biggest hypocrites ever? lindsay lohan making shocking claims lindsey is hooked on prescription drugs. should he just keep his mouth shut?

>> levi. >> now levi johnston does it with protection. >> levi johnston joking about unprotected sex. is the father of sarah palin's grandson totally nuts? plus more stories breaking from this showbiz news ticker. the weekend edition of tv's first most provocative news show continues right now. welcome back to "showbiz tonight" this weekend. it is 30 minutes past the hour. i'm a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. tonight "showbiz tonight" demands to know are jon and kate gosselin the biggest hypocrites ever? "showbiz tonight" did some serious digging around. what we uncovered will absolutely astound you. this "showbiz tonight" investigation made for big news breaking.

jon, kate, we're begging you, make up your mind already. why have you got to talk out of both sides of your mouth. jon's hypocrisy leaves us scratching his head, all the comments how he really feels about kate. he can't make up his mind. which is it? who can remember when he said on prime time that he despises kate. >> i can't sit with someone i despise. >> despise. >> i despise because she's not speaking from the heart. >> "showbiz tonight" wants to know where is jon speaking from. less than a month later in a sudden and dramatic move jon announces he wants to postpone his divorce with kate and get on better terms. >> i want kate and i to mediate, become friends. i didn't mean despise. i regret saying that word.

>> jon, where did despising go. there's the small matter of $230,000 kate took from jon's checking account. tmz caught jon saying this. he didn't take the money. a few days ago he told another show something different saying, quote, i have withdrawn roughly $177,000 over the course of a year. all right, jon. whatever you say. that whole money fiasco with jon had poor kate crying on the "today" show, how without that money jon took she couldn't care dpor her kids. >> i have a stack of bills in my purse i can't drop in the mail. >> we felt so bad for kate until an hour later when she decided to dish about the new ring she's buying. yup, she, too, was talking out of both sides of her mouth. >> we discussed a ring i might buy. it's -- at some point it has little diamonds and mother-of-pearl.

>> to top off, kate's special brand of hypocrisy, let's listen to all the different versions she's given the media about how she really feels about the father of her kids. >> for the sake of my children, i only speak positive. >> but we weren't hearing positive on monday when kate went off on jon for supposedly taking all that money from the checking account. >> you have left your children and their mother unable to pay for the roof over their head. it's not acceptable. >> a little tip for jon and kate as they go on tv and blab, blab, blab about their lives, stay consistent. think about it, already eight mouths to feed and now jon and kate have added two more on both sides of their mouth. are jon and kate the biggest hypocrites in hollywood. leslie marshall a top radio host for the leslie marshall show. "showbiz tonight" did dig deep today. we found more contradictions

than should be legal. carlos, please, may i ask this of you. after what we just saw, are jon and kate simply the biggest hypocrites ever. >> anyone that gets divorce is a hypocrite. you say until death do us part, then, not so anymore. all couples do this. i hate you, i love you, it goes back and forth. the problem is jon and kate aren't true celebrities. true celebrities have handlers, managers, a little, assistants all kind of keeping you from saying these things in public. either kate and jon don't have them or they are getting bad advice. they are allowed to say these inconsistencies constantly for us to write down, record and feed back to them. >> just so happens i've been writing them down, recording them and feeding them back to them. the big thing is, some of these contradictions are coming out in one sitting. let me go through a few we dug up today. i want to start with kate, exactly what i'm saying on the "today" show in one interview

she's all upset, jon wiped out the bank account, so she can't pay the bills. again, during that same chat she talks about buying new jewelry. watch this. >> he took $230,000 of the $231,000 that we have liquid, and i have a stack of bills in my purse i can't drop in the mail. >> we discussed a ring that i might buy at some point. it has eight little diamonds and mother-of-pearl. >> leslie, off to you. is that not pure hypocrisy right there? >> not only is it hypocrisy, either these two better learn to tell the truth or they have to learn to lie better. i agree with carlos, they need some handlers to put some spin on this. i'm sorry, i'm not choked up about the little pearls and diamonds. they may have $200,000 liquid in the account to get out of an atm but she's got over a million dollar home. she's got a book deal. she makes a lot of money per episode on the television show. i'm just not buying it. jon is living in an apartment.

she's living in a big house. when they first started with these kids, they got all their strollers and bottles and diapers for free from companies. i'm not buying the poverty. she is being a hypocrite. the little sparkle in her eye about the jewelry shopping list, i'm just, please, stop it. >> diamonds are a girl's best friend. isn't that what they say? listen, if you think jon is doing better talking about the money problems oh, no. on one hand, in one interview he said just this week he did take money out of his joint checking account. this is what he said. i have withdrawn roughly $177,000 over the course of a year. that stands in stark contrast he said brand-new today jon caught on tape saying, i didn't a take any money. carlos-of- theory here. we're trying to figure out how he could say he's taken hundreds of thousands out one minute and have amnesia the next. maybe he hit his head. >> maybe the hair implants.

who does have amnesia, the fans. why did we watch this show? there's a quick story about an nba player ten years ago asked about making millions of dollars. we as nba players make a lot of money but we spend a lot of money. that's what i feel like with this jon and kate thing, 177,000, $230,000, it's way too much money. way more money than anyone in the down economy is making. it makes us not relate to you like we once did. >> we don't relate to how they feel about each other or claim to have felt about each other. that story is changing all the time. i refer you to the interview with chris cuomo, who says he can't stand sitting on the jon and kate sofa with kate, then he turns around and says he'd like to is the down and have a little talk with kate. listen to this. >> i can't sit with someone i

despise. >> despise. >> i despise because she's not speaking from the heart. i want this to stop. i want kate and i to mediate, become friends. >> leslie marshall, i get the impression, tell me if you're feeling this way, jon has no idea what he wants. >> i want to get married. i want to do this reality show. no, i don't want any of that. i think what's happened here, guys, it's one of those the grass is greener. he goes around, does some dating, slept around, now he's like i want to come home, mommy. that's what he's saying with kate. i think he likes the control aspect of their relationship and i think he misses what he had because the grass was not greener. the guy doesn't know what he wants. i think if he goes back he might stray again. >> quickly off to you. i know you got the "showbiz

tonight" abacus. who is the big ehypocrite. >> i have to go with kate, she was on the "today" show crying. jon does get points for being overall brutally honest at all times which doesn't work with him. >> a name, jon or kate bigger hypocrite. >> kate. >> you win. >> carlos diaz, leslie marshall, i appreciate it. the father of sarah palin's grandson has a new job. he's going nuts for a new commercial. the ad is so edgy, it's bound to spark a brand-new debate from alaska to new york. >> levi. >> now levi johnston does it with protection. >> that is really levi johnston joking about unprotected sex? is he nuts? it's the showbiz great debate. another showdown brewing, michael lohan's shocking claim

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welcome back to "showbiz tonight" this weekend a showbiz great debate as levi goes nuts for pistachio nuts.

the father of sarah palin's grandson is being paid to ties for nuts. has showbiz asking, has the whole world gone nuts. the great debate over lindsay lohan's dad. michael lohan made the shocking confession lindsey is hooked on prescription meds, when she's trying to get her career on tra track. should michael zip it already? let us kick off this great debate with levi johnston and this nutty new ad campaign. it's got everybody buzzing today. take a look. >> levi -- >> levi. >> now levi johnston does it with protection. wonderful pistachios, get crackin. >> i don't know about their tag line and what about it is going

to make anybody go out and buy pistachio nuts. let me ask you, was the company nuts to hire levi for the ad campaign or perhaps was this the bess train wreck ever. >> honestly, i really don't want to think about his sex life when i'm eating pistachios. secondly, i don't know if he's that recognizable figure. >> are people going to want to buy nuts because he's in the commercial. >> not because he's in the ad. all the buzz, it's genius, the person in the advertising company needs an award. it has scandal, sexuality, sexual innuendo. they are talking about birth control. they are talking about sex, all of it into this one little commercial. i think people are talking about it and that's going to get people interested in the company, by the way, which is called wonderful nuts. >> look at us, we're sitting

here talking about it and playing the ad and not charging for it. for me i'm not going to buy pistachio nuts because leaf irngs is in the commercial. the ad is getting a lot of attention it might not have otherwise gotten. levi would sell bricks if somebody asked him to. do you think his phone will ring off the hook with more endorsement opportunities. >> unfortunately yes. i think sarah palin will freak out because he keeps going on shows, talking about his sex life with bristol. i think he's possibly going to be starring in a reality show," survivor. >> good for all of us. let us move on to another great debate tonight. lindy lohan's dad michael spilling the beans today that he fierce lindsey will die if she doesn't kick what he claims is a prescription meds addiction. here is exactly what michael is telling radaronline.today.

well, "showbiz tonight" did speak with michael lohan late today. he confirmed, yes, he said it. and he thinks linney is on prescription drugs and wants to get her off of them. suzanne, back to you. if you ask me, the bigger problem here is that her dad is blabbing about his claim that she has a prescription drug problem. if she did, isn't this mongolia that they really should be handling privately? >> you know, honestly, i completely agree. lindsey, i haven't seen her parents anywhere in the past few months. she's partying her butt off in l.a. and around the world. she's in paris with her sister partying. no one is really standing by her. by the way, michael lohan loves to come out and say these sort of things when he's promoting something.

he's got a reality show with jon gosselin he's trying to promote, celebrity dads that he's promoting. >> we did call lindsey. as of showtime we didn't hear back from her of she's pretty busy. this is youtube by mod tv. she's busy at a paris fashion show during fashion week there. she's trying to basically launch her on fashion line with a major designer. april, it seems to me that lindsey is doing what she can to get her career back on track one way or the other, fashion, films, whatever she's going to do. her father is certainly not doing her any favors right now. >> maybe he's not doing her favors. there's no good time to talk to somebody about drug abuse. maybe he's not able to reach her. maybe she's too busy to take a call from her father. some of his behavior has been quenlg in the past. when i've sat down and talked to him, i do think he loves his daughter. love doesn't always equal good parenting. maybe this is the best way to address these issues. >> i've gotten that from him,

too. do you think lindsey, her hand is going to be forced and she'll have to respond one way or the other. yes, i'm on prescription drugs, no, i'm not, it's nobody's business. >> a lot of views on her fashion shows, i thing she's going to be talking about this. >> i appreciate you both being here tonight. thank you. >> tonight, beyonce is speaking out about what kanye west did at the mtv music video awards when he swept the microphone from taylor swift and said beyonce should have won. tonight beyonce is standing up for kanye. this is "showbiz tonight" this weekend on hln. time for the showbiz news ticker. making news right now.