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if you thought jon and kate's marriage was ugly, wait until you see the divorce. then richard belser, new york's favorite detective, and he's a comedian too, he joins me to discuss among other things his new book, "i am not a psychic." and actress and ar author valeri burt nell bertinelli will be on with me in the studio. she's thin and she'll be on with us tonight. welcome to friday.
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well, i don't know about you, but i've had a long week and i want it to end. lucky for all of us, our long national nightmare is also at an end. i'm talking about jon and kate. sources say the tlc show is being put on hold until the excouple work out their differences. this is really crushing me. joining me to discuss this and so much more is sara bernard, new york magazine, contributing editor. danny bon due chi, actor and talk show host of 94.1 wysp in philadelphia. and judy gold, comedienne extraordinaire. welcome to the show. is that show finished? please, tell me. >> it might be. jon is putting a stop to filming. they'll show a couple more episodes until november. that's stuff they've been taking. they're stringing it together. the reason he's trying to stop it is because he wants to star in a show of his own. and believe it or not, he's teaming one michael lohan, as in
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lindsay lohan's father. >> another bargain. >> so the show called -- to do a show called "the divorce dad's club". >> that's going to be a hit, don't you think? >> i don't know, who wouldn't want to watch that? >> do you pay attention to the story of jon and kate. >> i have been paying attention to jon and kate. i find it fascinating that anyone would want to lay out their dirty laundry like that. >> i do it for a living. that's my job. >> he's -- he wants to bar the tlc cameras from filming his kids. >> when he was on the show, he didn't want to bar them from filming the kids. >> now it's kate plus eight -- kate plus no one now. >> a vendetta thing. i did the same thing. i did a reality show with my family. at the end of which i ended up getting a divorce and they said we're going to put it on hold until you work out your differences. i will be ten years before you'll see that tv show on.
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it's pretty much dead. >> they're problematic. he's a bad guy, he cheated on her, took money from her. she was the shrew on the show, though. who do you like better? >> it's hard to know who to like better. but the thing is they're not actually going away. she's tape add pilot for a talk show already. >> the paula dean -- >> and i believe someone else we know. >> doing the pilot too. >> perhaps. >> perhaps. >> it's like "the view," a ripoff of "the view". >> i have no idea. >> that's what my sources tell me. i could be wrong. >> i could make an educated guess. no matter what move she's making today, they're both gone. >> they'll be a thing of the past. >> they're already a thing of the past. >> john loves it jews -- he loves jewish people and his girlfriend is jewish and might be converting to judaism. >> it's a another show. >> heard the same thing about mel gibson. >> i want to turn now to the
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first lady of california. tmz snapped photos of maria shriver talking on the cell phone and driving which has been illegal since her husband signed a law banning it last year. if he can't get his wife to follow the law, how is she supposed to control california? >> this cracks me up. >> why? >> first of all, the guy passes a law and she's sitting on the phone. who was she talking to? >> probably to the kids. >> probably talking to the kids. it's hilarious. it's her getting back at him for being a republican. >> he's a democrat. [ . >> he's really a democrat? >> it's completely overblown. i can't believe it. i was caught at one of the red light cameras talk on the phone drinking with my mistress in the passenger seat and i thought, it's not a big deal. governor arnold schwarzenegger while governor of the state of california was pulled over on his motorcycle and he was not and never had been in possession
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of a motorcycle license. he's quoted saying there's swift action in my house tonight. there will be swift action between me and my girl tonight and it doesn't mean he'll be reprimand reprimanded. >> danny, macho man. >> she's younger than i am. >> by the way, she's donating the phone to charity. maybe she -- >> she's not going to get another phone. >> i think she needs a phone. >> maybe the $70 would be better to bail out the state of california. >> actually donating it to mad -- mothers against dialing. >> david letterman had an awkward conversation with tina fey about sex on wednesday. take a look. >> did you know about this? maybe i shouldn't bring this up. >> i happened to be reading one of the magazines. >> virgins in to their 20s. >> yeah. >> it says -- >> old virgins. >> it says you, tina fey -- >> yes. >> 20 -- >> we don't have to read that. >> 24 -- >> 24. >> this is nothing wrong with that, is there? >> no. >> yeah, up -- and --
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>> couldn't give it away. couldn't give it away. >> she's cute, isn't she? >> if she had been working for letterman, she would have done it before. >> is letterman going to come off of this creepy -- every time the topic of sex comes up now? how long will this go on, do you think? >> he looks like a creepy old guy, don't you think? >> do you think to is. >> i love him. it's the elephant in the middle of the room. he acknowledges it. >> it's certainly a difference of opinion between genders. i can't believe the creepy old guy still gets laid. look at that. >> hero. >> he's a hero to you. >> he's a hero to you? is he a hero to you? >> it will last five more minutes. it helps his ratings. first of all, before the whole thing two weeks ago, he was killing everyone else, he was number one. this is only -- when we get over it a little bit it will help him. cbs will renew the contract and it will not the be end of
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letterman. >> what's the point of having your own show if you're not sleeping with your staff. >> that is so retro. >> i want a deli tray and i want to sleep with one of the producers. >> the sound guy. but i think he's not a politician. he's a comic. that's what happens on these shows. >> they're talking about it. gloria allred is talking about it, her daughter, lisa bloom is saying it's about favoritism more than harassment. the other girls are not sleeping with them and they're not on tv getting actress scale. that's the real problem. >> i don't think gloria allred -- you want to talk about something. she turns the screws on people. it's an entirely different subject. she's bitter about the whole thing. >> interesting that the men -- practically every man who's discussed it on the show this week, they think it's fine. the women have issues. >> i have noticed that. women have issues. i don't have much of an issue. but it's true. they're pissed off at him. >> you're not are you? >> no. i want to know it's not a joke. i've been dead serious and
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honest. i have had three television shows and i've slept with the member of every single staff. >> how long is the extortion case going to go on with the other guy. i didn't know if he thought he could have cashed that check for $2 million? >> i think he believed he could. actually, that's the best part of the whole story. >> do you think so? he seemed to be in pain because the girlfriend was cheetsi ingc him? >> this guy is a respected producer of a respected news show? who walks in to the bank with a check of $2 million, by the way, can i have $1 million out in cash, please? >> he's a little -- >> he's a single guy. he's available. thanks, everybody. richard belzer when we come back.
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> i'm back with my fabulous panel. talk about the magazine, "teen soeg." they're in hot water by putting an unmarried pregnant 19-year-old jordan dunn on the cover. you're in the magazine industry. is someone really losing it over there? >> probably. but i have to say i sympathize with "teen vogue" in this situation. i bet they booked this model. she's doing a lot of great things. she was the first african-american model to walk the prada runway since nigh youmy campbell. they were trying to highlight her life. it ended up after the photo shoot they found out she was actually pregnant. she's due in december.
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that's tricky. if they had cancelled it, they would have gotten a lot of coverage for the fact that they canned this pregnant unwed mom. >> after she had stretch marks. >> don't hold your breath. >> she's 19 years old. that is young, not as young as jamie lin spears who star in a nickelodeon show while she was pregnant. >> or sarah palin's daughter. >> that's a brilliant point. she's in two protected classes. african-american, female, pregnant woman. ever try and fire that lady? >> my question is, they didn't know she was pregnant, she's a model. she weighs 12 pounds. a grape would show. >> it depends on how you look at those things. if you're rush limbaugh, you're screaming at the democrats decline of western civilization. if you're like i am, the father of a teenage daughter, you don't mind them saying, look, you
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could wind up pregnant. be careful. >> it's okay to be pregnant if you're unwed. everybody is complaining about this. >> or you're beautiful. >> the readership is not 19, their readership is 14, 15. but it's gotten the conversation going. so it might be okay. >> it opens it door. >> is it okay to be pregnant and not marry? am i behind the times on this? >> it is. it's -- >> if you're republican and your mother -- >> "time" magazine is a new study that it's pretty much jumped about 30% since the '70s, unmarried, married women. >> i didn't say it was right. >> it's not -- >> it's not immoral, it's impractical. >> a lot of people want that baby. it's evolution. >> that need. >> you have to think about it, come on. i have two kids, it's annoying. you warned me, joy. and you were right. >> and you were a lesbian. you didn't even have to do it. >> i went way out of my way. oh, god. >> meanwhile, let's go to another story. across the atlantic, "french
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vogue" is in hot water. they did a photo spread of white supermodel lara stone in black face. okay, judy, who's the editor? rush limbaugh? what do you think of that? >> black face is coming back. i asked the makeup people to do black face on me and they didn't have enough time. i don't understand. what is the point? black face with white lips, isn't it? >> it's insulting to african americans. >> i don't understand that. >> yeah. >> if it's not insulting to african-americans, then everybody owes ted danson a huge apology. if, on the other hand, it is offensiv offensive, we need to dig up al jowlson what a rack he turned out to be. >> that was a long time ago. >> never been okay. >> never been okay. they could be forgiven because they were that dumb. it's inexcusable today. >> the first amendment will cover you if you're trying to incite insurrection. they're trying to incite
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anorex anorexia. a whole different thing. >> a news reporter was in black face while reporting on obama. >> episode of "mad men" one of the characters was wearing black face. that was in the context of the time and trying to point out that that was offensive and wrong. what's bizarre about this "french vogue" situation is there's no context. is she trying to be funny or -- >> i don't know. i don't know. they're crazy. >> they want us to be talking about it. >> here we are. >> exactly. >> one more story, the obama administration is in the middle of a heated feud with fox news, predictably glenn beck brought the feud to a whole new and ridiculous level. listen to this. >> when they're done with fox and you decide to speak out on something, the old "first they came for the jews and i wasn't jewish" when they're done with fox and talk radio, do you really think they're going to leave you alone if you want to
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ask a tough question? >> okay, before we discuss this, can i point out that calling the president a racist is not a tough question, it's not a question, you idiot. ite's a declarative. >> he's a mental patient. he's out of his mind. >> isn't he trivializing the holocaust a little bit? he's bringing the jews in to this. >> why do we get brought in to it. sara, you're jewish, aren't you? >> i am. you don't need to be involved. >> why drag the jews in it -- >> we get dragged into everything. i'm sick of it. >> it's horrifying. it shouldn't be taken that lightly. he says when they're done with fox news. he compares wit the holocaust. the holocaust is just a word. 6 million people were gassed to death, how dare he say that? how dare he -- >> but he's making -- let's switch this -- stay what the point is at least. let's forget about the jewish part. >> he can say whatever he wants
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about whomever and there's no censorship. but the minute someone says something in retaliation, then he brings up the holocaust. >> then he's a victim. >> he is a victim. >> but he is -- he is rooting for the first amendment in a certain way. >> but i'm not -- i think he blurs that line because it's -- after a while, you blur the line between the news and entertainment. there are only a few things -- in a recession, there's only a few things that are recession-proof, drugs, prostitution, and entertainment. and i'm for all three. >> you know, i think what's interesting is what's the white house going to do about this, right? the more attention they pay, the more ratings he gets. so it's the kind of tricky situation that -- >> is he a ratings idol for you, danny? >> he's an idol of mine because he is in recovery for alcoholism. the second he started talking -- i've been recovering for years, i immediately started drinking again. and -- i can thank him for that. >> do you see a trend?
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rush limbaugh, oxycontin. glenn beck, alcoholic. dan nny bonaducci, alcoholic. george bush, exalcoholic. >> they're jumping on the wagon. i jumped off. >> you think you're an alcoholic or a drug addict and you quit, you have that addictive personality. you have to put it some place else. where did you put it? >> i put it back in the bar where it belonged. >> where did you put your addiction? what are you addicted to now? >> talking incescively. it's horrifying. i can't stop. >> glenn beck's addiction might be getting more and more publicity. >> why do republicans align themselves with people like glenn beck and rush limbaugh. these zealots. they don't say -- >> who aligns? >> the republicans. >> they're not aligning. >> they don't say anything. >> they have a base. just like sarah palin. they knew she was dumb, but she has a tremendous base in the
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republican party on the right. >> i think that's the right analogy. they handled her so well because they didn't attack her as much as they could because they knew it was going to add fuel to the fire. if they keep attacking him and pointing this out over and over, if the communications director keeps doing that, he's going to gain and they're going to lose. >> they should chill. >> rush limbaugh, such a conservative. >> he is. >> took so much oxycontin that he went deaf. that's god blessing him so he doesn't have to hear his show. >> that's funny. you ought to be a comedian. thanks for coming. i enjoyed it. did you have if un? >> fun. >> thank you. >> thanks to my entire panel. stephen bald winn joins me next. don't go away. what a night.
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my next guest is from hollywood royalty. he and his family play a big role on the breast cancer fight through the carol m. bald winn breast cancer research fund. joining me is actor stephen baldwin. welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> if you're hollywood royalty before we get to the cancer situation, who's the king of the family? alec? >> oh, without question? >> without question? >> i have to ask the question -- have i ever seriously needed a large amount of money, who would i go to? i said, alec. he's got the most. probably bail money. $5 million. i'd have to go right to alec.
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>> all right, your family is very close. you're talking about your mother's illness. she survived cancer. >> 19-year survivor. >> must have been difficult for all of the children to have a mother very ill with breast cancer. tell us about that. >> when my mom was diagnosed, a year before my wettin iwedding, been married 19 years. in typical baldwin fashion, she kept her mouth shut and she didn't want to ruin the wedding. she's had a double mastectomy and has been a crusader since. >> when was the carolyn baldwin fund started? how long ago? >> ten years ago. >> which two? >> two chamters, upstate and long island organization. daniel and myself work on the upstate and alec and billy do most of the stuff on long island. we do lots of different
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tournaments, events, black tie galas. they have a motorcycle ride that mom puts on the old pink helmet and rides in the side car of the harley davidson. >> a wacky group but they're fun, the baldwins. get along with each other? >> very well. >> do you fight with alec politically? he doesn't agree with you on politics. >> i put it to you this way. we were hanging out a few months back. he said, who would ever thought? little stephen, born again, conservative, and republican. i said, i'm a registered independent. he said, we all know you're a republican sympathizer. >> born-again christian too, right? >> that's correct. >> do you think god has helped your mother get better. >> absolutely. i think god is sovereign and he allows and doesn't allow for things to happen so if she's still here, then i say it's his will. >> really? but i don't understand that when people talk like that.
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there are a lot of bad things as well as the good. >> god allows the bad. >> what do you mean he allows it bad? >> god allows it devil to do what he does. >> what does the devil look like? >> do you have any children? >> i do. >> did you ever discipline them? >> never. >> she never needed it. she was a perfect child. >> never? >> no. >> you asked before the program if i was scared of you. >> what are you scared of? >> you're ferocious. >> ferocious? >> oh, my goodness -- >> alec is not afraid of me. >> alec is alec. come on, babe. >> i wish he would come on the show more often. >> he hasn't been on yet? >> he was not on this show. on with larry king. >> he'll be on. >> heel talk about you if you want him to. >> he'll say nothing but how much he loves me and how much fun we have. >> okay, kid. no nice to have you. i hope you didn't scare you too much. >> survived. >> i just have questions that i ask all the time. dddddd
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