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right now on "showbiz tonight" this weekend. the jaycee dugard miracle. the very first picture and look at the woman who was kidnapped as a child and allegedly sexually abused for 18 years. revealed for the first time how jay see is recovering from her nightmare. the remarkable picture of her too hard to believe. >> jessica's fat furry. jessica simpson strikes back with a fox cartoon making fun of her weight. >> tony, is jessica around? we could use a defensive tackle.
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>> tonight, jessica's furious response as stars battling their own weight battles rush to jessica's defense. brace yourself for a "showbiz tonight" debate, is jessica's weight fair game. the outrageous new barbree controversy. is barbie really being replaced because her ankles are too fat? the weekend edition of tv's first most prok pro-voktive entertainment news show starts right now. hello. i'm a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. >> i'm brooke anderson, welcome to "showbiz tonight" this weekend. a picture and story so remarkable it almost defies description. for the very first time since
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she was rescued the world got to see what she looks like for 18 years and virtually held as a sex slave. "people" magazine reveals the amazing picture of jaycee and how she's recovering from her nightmare. this is one story and picture that made for big news breaking. it's the first photo of jaycee dugard we've seen since her miraculous rescue. the smiling young woman on the cover of the "people" magazine shows no indication of the unthinkable ordeal she endured. >> jaycee looks amazing in these photos. she looks full of life, happy. >> what a turnaround for a woman who has been through so much. kidnapped at age 11 outside her california home in 1991 in a case featured on america's most wanted. >> have you seen jaycee lee dugard? >> held captive and raped over 18 years during which she had two daughters. in a miraculous break, she and her daughters were freed.
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now, "showbiz tonight" can tell you jaycee dugard and her reunited family are telling the world how they are putting their lives back together after their long ordeal. >> they are inseparable. they are spending every minute together talking, laughing, doing activities together. >> they tell "showbiz tonight" dugard and her daughters, 15-year-old angel and 11-year-old starlet are now living with jaycee's mother in exclusion somewhere in northern california. >> jaycee's stepmom tells "people" for right now, the healing process is going to be a lot quicker and easier from them if they stay away from outsiders. >> as part of that exclusion, jaycee was not interviewed for the "people" away. in a statement to "people" she says, quote, i'm so happy to be back with my family. nothing is more important than the unconditional love and supportive from them. >> this joyous reunion with her family is going very, very well. >> this morning on nbc's today show, a family spokesperson said even though they are staying private, jaycee's family feels it's time for the world to see
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how they are doing. >> this is her way of thanking everyone for their support and really letting them know this she's doing okay. >> after she was kidnapped in front of her own home back in 1991, jaycee's desperate mother pleaded for the kidnapper to return her baby. >> it's time that she comes home to her family. >> authorities say jaycee was held captive in these tents behind the home of her alleged kidnapper phillip garrido and his wife nancy. garrido allegedly raped jaycee and fathered her two girls who lived with jaycee in the hidden backyard camp. they would probably still be there if it weren't for two heroes who now are also telling their story. >> the hairs in the back of my neck stood straight up. >> these university of california at berkeley police workers, tell the oprah winfrey show that when garrido brought his daughters to the campus, something just didn't seem
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right. >> they were pretty girls. they just weren't animated, interactive. it was non-verbal communication. it was as though they were props. >> the women contacted authorities. soon after jaycee and her daughters were freed. now garrido and his wife have pleaded not guilty to kidnapping jaycee. a family friend tells the "today" show, jaycee is cooperating with prosecutors. >> she's well aware for that prosecution to move forward she's has to cooperate and she's fully prepared to do that. >> they tell "showbiz tonight" both jaycee and her daughters are in therapy. >> part of the therapy is horse back riding, which is helping jaycee and her daughters get over the emotional turmoil. >> as for jaycee's daughters who had never been to school before, families say they are coming along well in her studies. as for jaycee, she's not dwelling on the past.
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>> right now jaycee's prior is looking to the future in deciding what's next in really starting this new life with her daughters and her family. >> the new issue of "people" is on news stands now. tonight there's new jon and kate money madness. jon gosselin had to be scrambling to figure out how he's going to come up with $180,000. this made for big news breaking. that is exactly how much a judge has ordered jon to put back into a joint account he shares with kate. jon, show us the money. startling results of a "showbiz tonight" poll, we asked whether kate should pay jon spousal support and not the other way. judge alex and suzanne, senior editor for star magazine. as of today, i'm watching the calendar, jon gosselin has days left to return the $180 grand he took from the bank account or face contempt charges. i'll begin with you, my friend. if you were the judge, based on what you know, would you have ordered jon to do the sale
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thing? >> absolutely. you can't result to self-help, take money out of the account, especially when there's an order that says no significant amount of money should be removed without the other party. people do this all the time in a divorce and they don't think ahead. a judge is going to look at that unfavorably on how property will be split. if you take out $100,000 that doesn't belong to you, expect that much or more will be extracted from your half of the proceeds when things are settled out. >> i just have a feeling he's not holding onto it in a high-yield cd. >> for the first time he tried to explain why he thought it was okay. well, it was just after arbitration, we weren't supposed to take money out of the restrictive account and we both did. i was found in contempt for doing so. i didn't realize i was just like taking my paycheck out. okay. on the one hand he's acknowledging he wasn't supposed to tat money out. in the exact same breath he says he didn't realize it was just like taking my paycheck out. >> i am on team kate here.
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jon knew very well he can't take that money out. jon has some cash stashed aside. he's working on a reality show. he has some other things in the mix. he better put that money back. >> part of this legal battle may have kate say she's going to demand jon pay her temporary spousal support. we turned the tables. we asked in "showbiz tonight" question of the day, jon and kate money battle should kate pay jon spousal support? look at the reports, 33% said yes, 67% said no, no way kate should pay jon any spousal support. let me ask you this, from your experience, if jon decided to push it, do you think there's any way he could make an argument that kate should be the one forced to pay him spousal support. >> sure.
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it's not a popularity contest. if it was, he'd be losing hands down. >> right. >> it's based on need and ability to pay. if a judge determines alimony is appropriate in this case, regardless of whether it's for the wife or the husband, the judge is going to look at whether there's a need for al mope and an ability to pay. based on that if she has the ability to pay and he has the need, it certainly could go that way. >> from everything we see, she's the one with the money rolling in, him, not so much. if there was any doubt "jon & kate plus eight," the tv show, is on its last legs, i want you to look at the promo. next monday on "jon & kate plus eight." separate lives. >> girl, are you? rhyme not. >> separate adventures. >> we're going to do destructive man stuff.
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>> with only a limited number of episodes left. jon and kate spend quality time with those who matter the most. >> you heard it there in the big voiceover. only a limited number of episodes remaining. we do know tlc is taking jon's name off the show. should we be reading into that, because there's gloom and doom. >> who wants to watch a show about boring old kate with the kids. it was more fascinating when you had the divorce with jon and all his relationships on the side. she's got a cooking show with paula dean in the works. her own tv show. this is going to last so much longer. >> be interesting to see how much longer indeed. i appreciate you both being with us tonight. brooke anderson, i've got to tell you, i'm glad to have you back. i know you were out being a great mom to your beautiful daughter victoria. do you have the baby pictures with you? >> i do, a.j. take a look. there she is. >> look how beautiful she is. >> i have a lot more pictures to share with everybody in just a bit. also, the jessica simpson great
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weight debate over this disgusting new fox video. >> man, i still can't believe tony dated jessica simpson, even after she blew up bigger than flozell adams. >> i can tell you big stars are now rushing to jessica's defense. there are also people that say knocking jessica's weight is a clean hit because her looks are a big part of the way she sells herself. this is "showbiz tonight" on hln. ♪
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>> did you see this? of course you have. this bundle of energy has become a genuine internet superstar. this video of little ava dancing to beyonce's single ladies has more than 4,000 hits on youtube. her parents say they just did it for family and friends. they had no idea little affair, a would become a massive hit. welcome back, i'm a.j. hammer. "showbiz tonight" told you about celebrities famous for nothing. you know who i'm talking about. reality show stars who get all kinds of attention and star treatment even though they have no talent to speak of. these are stars who get all kinds of attention even though it seems no one can name a single movie. do they get more attention than they warrant? look out hollywood a-litters, if you think you're having thunder stolen by famous for nothing, you should look at famous for
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something. unlike reality show counter-parts, they do act or sing. but let's say their professional and artistic achievements don't match the amount of attention they get. >> there are people who are sort of famous but you've never seen their movies, you've never heard their music, you've never seen their tv shows. >> there's jessica simpson, a big media darling despite one simple fact. >> let's face it, no one is buying her music. >> tabloid sienna miller. >> also pin-up girl megan fox. >> i have people asking me, amy, i hate to ask you this but who is megan fox.
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>> even ashton kutcher. >> name an ashton kutcher movie, name one. not, dude, where is my car. >> they have coined a term for this class of famous little stars. >> not famous, famesque. >> jessica simpson is the patron saint, her love life, weight issues and the loss of her dog made headlines everywhere. her singing and acting not so much. >> when was the last time jessica simpson got a song on the chart. she gets so much more attention than any singer performers of that caliber. >> jessica simpson is far from alone in the realm of famesque. sienna miller famous for romance with jude law. her movies are a different story. >> she was on the cover of magazines. we knew all about her love life yet none of us in america had seen her in any movies. >> congratulations, duke. you saved paris. >> even though the last movie, g.i. joe was a hit, no one is
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giving her credit for that. same with megan fox. >> she was in a movie," transformers" while big wasn't a showcase for actors. >> while megan fox tried, she flocked her way to the list of famesque. >> she's giving all these interviews, saying sassy things, giving photos, yet she's detached from any kind of product or art form. >> and then there's ashton kutcher. >> i got so many letters, so many e-mails, saying this is not true. ashton kutcher, he's a big, big star. granted he was in that show called "that '70s show" years ago. he hasn't made a lot of movies a lot of people see. we pay attention to him as famous, famesque, because we like him.
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he looks great on a red carpet omega self-deprecating jokes with demi moore. >> maybe we should feel sorry for famesque. after all they don't make as much as true superstars. >> you have invasion of privacy and give up sense of self that julia roberts yet you're not getting the $20 million a picture. that has to be difficult. >> they probably aren't too happy about being famesque. >> it's not something people seeks out or look for when they get in this business. they want to be famous for great acting, people buying their cds and that's not what's happening here. >> the one thing about being among the famesque, may not be an oscar or grammy winner. at least we know who you are. that means you're in the hollywood game and you're one
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big hit away from graduating from famesque to famous. well, jessica simpson is still a big attention grabber, not always in a good way. in fact, in the last week she had to take to her twitter page to beg fans to stop swamping her with false sightings of her dog that went missing last month. >> i think the way people treated jessica simpson about her dog was so wrong. now there's a new absolutely famous fox video dising her weight. >> i still can't believe tony dated jessica simpson, even after she blew up like flozell adams. >> some big stars are rushing to her defense. others say because she's a star, her looks are fair game. >> also barbie weight debate. is barbie really replaced because her ankles are too fat? yeah, i said ankles. this is "showbiz tonight" weekend tonight on hln.
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man, i still can't believe tony dated jessica simpson, even after she blew up bigger than flozell adams. >> now on "showbiz tonight" weekend, the great jessica simpson weight debate. stars rush to her defense after a cartoon skit making fun of her weight. fair gain? >> seriously is jon getting
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parenting advice for lindsay lohan's dad? bizarre or brilliant. when president obama said the president has to be able to. >> walk and chew gum at the same time. >> he didn't mention nicorette. >> the down right embarrassing things people do to get rid of gum. the weekend edition of tv's first most provocative news show continues right now. welcome back to "showbiz tonight" this weekend. it is 30 minutes past the hour. i'm a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. >> i'm brooke anderson coming to you from hollywood. tonight the great jessica simpson weight debate. the debate over a fox skit poking fun at jessica simpson's weight has exploded. jessica is firing back. some passionate stars are backing her up including valerie bertinelli. watch what she said. >> i don't get it. she's a very beautiful young woman.
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>> but not everyone agrees with jessica's defenders. brace yourself, there are some who are also saying making fun of jessica for her weight or anything else is fair game because she's a celebrity. come on, a.j., are jokes about jessica's weight fair game. >> i don't think so. some of our fans on the "showbiz tonight" facebook page say yes. right now a public lis from hollywood, jim, senior editor for "in touch weekly." we're going to get to the debate and what jessica said in just a second. first, i want to you take a look at a bit of what fox played on sunday. frankly i think they should be ashamed of themselves for this. take a look. >> man, i still can't believe tony dated jessica simpson even after she blew up bigger than flozell adams.
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>> hey, tony, is jessica around, we could use a defensive tackle. >> very funny. fox has now apologized for this, but jessica is still ticked off. she fired back on twitter. i thought it was great what she wrote. i will never understand why people attack for a laugh. own your beauty and don't listen to a judgment. there's so many ways jessica could have responded to it. i think she handled it with great class. kim, are you with me? >> it was in such poor taste. it wasn't funny. it's not relevant. the last time they were talking about her weight was when she worry mom jeans. she wasn't fat then, she's not fat now. she's not even dating tony romo. it doesn't make sense. compare her to a 350 pound lineman. i don't think people found it funny. i think it will give her more sympathizers. >> here is the thing. this is exactly what's happening today. a lot of people are saying, you know what, she's a celebrity.
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she's fair game. even jokes about her weight are fair game. do you think jessica has a right to be mad about this? >> certainly she has a right to be mad. as a pioneer, someone that opened up her life to a reality television show. her weight, unfortunately is fair game. for fox to drag themselves in the middle of really is something insensitive to their consumers. they are forgetting about focusing on their consumers and focusing on jessica simpson. it is fair game but out of line and i think their consumers are going to speak loudly. >> you make a great point. you wonder what people are thinking. who really gains when a joke like this is made and done at somebody else's expense. megan mccain, the daughter of john mccain, she's been attacked about her weight in the past. she blogged about it. what does anyone gain by this? the media can do better. the country can do better. if not for women like me than my
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little sister and all the young girls in the country. my only answer is not to take it. i refuse to take it. i refuse to be bullied and i refuse for jessica simpson to be bullied. is there underlying target, is it easy for people to attack her, her weight, even if it's a few pounds. >> that's a good way to look at it. i think there's make people that get a sick thrill out of kicking a man or a woman when she's down, and i think that's what's happening here in some way. i think it's pitful, malicious, uncalled for, and, besides, she looks beautiful. more power to her. >> the sad thing is, we see this go on all the time. i'm hoping for the day it comes to an end. i don't know if that takes
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place. valerie bertinelli certainly battles her weight issues over the years. she's speaking out. in a brand-new interview she makes a stronger point about the thing. jessica is not even overweight. watch what she told joy behar on hln. how brutal can the media be about press and people making fun of jessica. poor girl, she put on -- she doesn't look heavy. >> maybe five pounds, the camera adds weight. i don't get it. she's a very beautiful young woman. >> on the other hand you have to look at what andrea t. wrote on "showbiz tonight" facebook wall. it's not fair to go after her but they are going to go after someone famous, if she's skinny, fat, got implants, that's the price they pay for being in the spotlight. that was your point before. shouldn't the line get drawn. if she had blotchy skin, if she was missing a foot, would that be okay to go after her just because she's a celebrity. >> unfortunately it does. you open up your life for ridicule when you're a public
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figure. i don't think it's right but it's the price you pay when you're a celebrity. the issue here is the example it's setting for women around the country and all around the world that you will be ridiculed for being overweight. like they said earlier, she's really only a few pounds overweight. this is a bad example to set. corporate giants attached to this corporate example is alarming. it's a big issue, problem. >> it's a terrible example to set. pardon the phrase i think it should be a teaching moment. people need to wake up, making fun of people for their weight, especially a celebrity with the last thing from a real weight issue is a dangerous thing to do. here is something i want to read from the facebook page. lauren f. no, it isn't fair, but jessica simpson used her sex appeal to become famous so she has to deal with people criticizing her weight. this is really more an attack than criticism. do you buy that logic? a lot of people are saying this as well.
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>> i disagree. she first became famous as a singer, then newlyweds, then ditzy girl. it was really in the dukes of hazards she was known for sexiness. i have a pair of jessica simpson shoes, makes me want to get another pair, right now. makes me think she's trying to be a businesswoman, trying to focus on her singing career. she's not trying to be a sex symbol. i think that's unfair. going back to that little spoof they did, i can't believe tony romo dated jessica simpson. are there really a lot of guys who would say, i can't believe somebody would date jessica simpson. >> speaking of guys, are there any guys who if they gained a couple of pounds would be made fun of so brutally by cartoons like the one we saw for jessica? i don't think so. our phone lines have been ringing. susan makes a point about this
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double standard. >> it's getting to be ridiculous when people are constantly picking on females for being overweight. how come a woman 20 pounds overweight is considered fat. a man can gain all kinds of weight and he's considered stocky. there's still the same double standard. i guess there will be. >> brooke anderson, we just have a few seconds. we cover this all the time. would we be having this conversation if it was george clooney. >> no way. i certainly agree with the caller. the same old double standard applies, a man's weight fluctuates, nobody says a word. a woman, five, ten pounds, it's disgusting. >> i appreciate you being here tonight. brooke, myself, the whole game, we're thrilled to have you back from maternity leave. glad to have you here. >> i missed everybody, too. i did not come back empty handed. i have a photo album of my little girl kate.
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i can't wait to show pictures tonight. i know i'm new to this parenting thing. this sounds like a really bad idea. is jon gosselin getting parenting advice from lindsay lohan's dad? are you kidding me? michael lohan giving advice to jon in the middle of his own nasty divorce. you've got to wonder if this is the worst duo ever or could it be pure genius. who is calling barbie the f word, fat? the outrage new barbie controversy. fat ankles? will she be replaced? "showbiz tonight" weekend. >> time for the showbiz news ticker. more stories from the "showbiz tonight" ticker, making news right now.
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welcome back to "showbiz tonight" this week. i'm a.j. hammer in new york. jon gosselin's new mentor. you're not going to believe whose giving him advice. look at this picture, michael lohan. sure, lindsay lohan's dad does know a thing or two about a nasty divorce. but should he be the guy giving advice to jon? is this the worst idea ever or pure genius? also outrage over a barbie doll makeover. is a famous french shoe designer saying barbie has cankles. is he ordering a makeover, slim down ankles or else. psychologist and author of the cult of celebrity, ben, celebrity editor for stylist.com.
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take a look at his picture again. michael lohan, hours ago we talked to michael about his visit to jon's house. michael said he was there to talk about business deals and also said he was giving advice, man--to-man, from a guy who went through a messy divorce himself. of course he divorced lindsay lohan's mom dina. here is what he told him. as soon as the lawyers got involved in my own marriage. that's when things went wrong. when others get involved, everyone pulls at you and you get torn apart. who is going to suffer? the kids. once attorneys get involved, they have other motives, and they both want to win. cooper, given his shaky past, a criminal record, public battle with his ex-estrangement from his daughter lindsay lohan,
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is it a bad idea for jon to take advice from lindsay lohan's dad? >> it's a horrible idea. he screwed up his kids. they have nothing to do with him. he's been in jail, been divorced, like every other father who has been divorced. has he no advice to give them other than i don't know what. michael lohan comes out and says lindsey is going to have a drug problem. they are going to have an intervention. first of all, if you have an intervention, you don't tell people. lindsey doesn't talk to him, his children don't talk to him. he's a terrible role model. he's going to help jon with his kids? >> he says it's not all about the money. of course it is about the money. kate accused jon of taking $230,000 out of a joint account. jon claims kate took money, too, like a million bucks. new tonight kate won the first round in court. a judge ordered jon to return $180,000 bucks or face contempt
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charges. i have to say, no matter what everybody thinks of michael lohan he is hitting the nail on the head saying they ought to focus on the kids. what do you think, is this a great move getting advice from this guy or totally stupid. >> i think it's great he's giving business advice, because he went to prison for security fraud. michael is a crazy guy. if there was a show of michael and jon, i would watch it in a heartbeat. >> regardless of the advice, he may can be strapped for cash. clearly kate holds the purse strings. in jon and kate money battles, should kate pay jon spousal support. keeper, as outrage as it sounds, what do you think? should kate have to pay jon? >> no. they both had opportunities to make money. the show was about both of them and the kids. they should split everything. it's ridiculous. >> as much as i should talk about this for hours, i want to
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move on to barbie's cankles. a firestorm over shoe designer slimming down barbie's ankles. yes, barbie, the doll. look what i've got right here. hold on. i've got a brand-new statement today from barbie. this is what barbie tell us. i can't believe i'm even saying that. ben, besides the fact that barbie herself released a statement, arches, cankles. >> i'm with him. i think she could lose a few. she's an idolized toy. guess what, superman isn't that buff either. mickey mouse isn't a mouse. she should be skinny, ideal.
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lop them off. >> facebook page on fire, comments coming in fast and furious over barbie's ankle makeover. >> listen what holly b. writes. they are 22 millimeters we just learned. quickly, what do you think, cooper, does that person holly put her foot on the pulse of america? >> what year is this? didn't we have this conversation 20 years ago, is barbie an icon? is she relevant, is she not? come on, a. j., ridiculous. >> i'm ready. tonight we're going to show a doll of our own. it's okay i call her that because i think she is. adorable edition to "showbiz tonight" family. brooke anderson introducing her baby. proud mama to show pictures. you've been at this motherhood thing for almost six months now. >> yeah, five months. you know, it's fantastic, a. j.
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the best thing that has ever happened to me. pictures on this show. she is more beautiful than anyone i've ever seen before. congratulations to you and your husband, wow, amazing. >> thank you so much. i love her. >> moving on now. doesn't spit out that gum. it's the number one rule when you're on tv, and trust me, i know, but sometimes famous people get totally busted in sticky situations, and now it's all caught on tape. >> when president obama said that the president has to be able to -- >> walk and chew gum at the same time. >> he didn't mention the ability to talk and get rid of nicorette at the same time. >> tonight i've got some of the most embarrassing and downright bizarre gum-chomping moments that sure to make you go ew. this is "showbiz tonight" this weekend on hln.
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