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the frantic search for the monster who killed 7-year-old summer thompson. crime scene tape and investigators all over her roof, home from school and in the cross hairs. an abandoned home guarded by cops 24/7. are we any closer to finding out who killed summer? and vile threats popping up online for anyone who calls the cops and tells what they saw in the death of this football player. jasper howard murdered in the crowd of 300 people. no one's talking. someone is so bold, they post on his website memorial, rest in
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peace, jasper howard. and if anyone talks, you'll be stabbed, shot, or beaten. that's where we are here. call in at 1-8877-tell-hln. e-mail us at prime news. it's your chance to be heard. welcome. this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. right now a quiet street torn apart in the search for a child killer. investigators in florida are retracing every step 7-year-old summer thompson ever took walking home from school on monday. get that picture. 7-year-old walking home from school, and she ends up dead in a garbage heap. the center of this investigation, a vacant house roped off and under 24-hour guard. guys digging through a dumpster in hazmat suits. neighbors say it is pandemonium. just into us, those 161 registered sex offenders living nearby, not one is being called a suspect at this point. summer's mom, so brave.
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we heard her yesterday, speaking again this morning on the cbs early show. dena thompson, she is resolute, wanting to find who killed her daughter. >> we heard you say you hope the killer pays. what are your feelings towards this person? >> i hate him. i hate him. >> when you say you hope he pays, what do you think would be adequate payment for this? >> oh, that he needs the death penalty. and i hope they put him in a cell with someone who absolutely can't stand a child predator and let them have fun with him. >> the little girl's autopsy is done. police know the cause of death. they're not letting it out, though. we'll ask why are they keeping it under wraps? we'll take your calls on this. 1-877-tell-hln. let's bring in our experts on the ground near mom's home.
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tisha lance from the nancy grace show. and mike brooks, law enforcement analyst. let's start with you, tish. any new leads on this, or is everything centering around that home? >> everything is centering around that home, mike. i was out there last night until about midnight. they were in those full white suits, the hazmat suits. they're doing all types of investigations. there was a bulldozer out there late last night. they said there was heavy debris they needed help moving. there is also a construction dumpster right by this house. that dumpster has not been emptied since the time somer went missing or up until now. they went thoroughly through that dumpster. also going thoroughly through that house. they were doing sensitive light testing. if you looked inside the house, you could see bright blue lights going off, bright green lights going off. they're saying this is standard procedure for an investigation such as this. they're not saying any such physical evidence led them back to this house, but multiple witnesses place somer in front
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of this house as the last point of her being seen. >> do we know, natisha, how many people saw her? this is a residential area, this walk home, right? somewhat populated. somebody probably saw something, right? >> absolutely, mike. you would think so. it's a purely residential area. for around and round this area, it's just a neighborhood, just houses. you would think somebody had seen something. what they're saying, there's multiple witnesses. not giving a specific number. but they're saying that includes adults as well as children. there's also a park directly across the street. they also collected some evidence from that park. they were inside a men's room at that park that is connected to that park for about six minutes last night. we don't know what evidence was collected from there. >> let's bring in mike brooks. mike, let's hit on both of those. this is the first time i've heard of this park and the men's room. let's start there. what would take authorities there? some sort of physical evidence? some trace that somer was there
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at some point? >> if they were only there for six minutes, as natisha was saying, they were probably there to make sure they crossed the ts and dotted the is. what i find interesting is natisha says she was there at midnight last night and saw blue lights and green lights. we call that alternate light sources when looking at a crime scene. also luminol, you spray that around the house, and it looks for even tiny specks of blood spatter. you can use it for looking fibers. certain kinds of fiber will glow under a light source. and look for the presence of e semen, other bodily fluids, to see if it's present in that house. there's something that led them to that house. i understand this was the last vicinity she was seen, but did they find something in that landfill around her that led them back to there that may be connected to that house?
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or was there something as we talked about yesterday, was there something on her clothes that may have led back to there? they're in those white tyvec suits. they have those on to make sure they don't transfer any possible evidence from their clothing onto a possible crime scene. >> guys, let's take a quick break. more with mike and natisha coming up. we have phone calls and facebook comments as we try to come to the grips with the brutal, tragic death of 7-year-old somer thompson.
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♪ you are my sunshine ♪ you make me happy when skies are gray ♪ ♪ you'll never know dear how much i love you ♪
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♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ >> heartbreaking. that is one of somer's favorite songs. "you are my sunshine." mom, deina thompson, singing with a crowd at a vigil last night. you know she will well up with tears for the rest of her life when she thinks of her little girl tragically taken so soon, found at a garbage site. it's just awful. tracy from pennsylvania writing this. "it's horrible to think that a child in america cannot walk home from school without being afraid of being abducted. it is outrageous." and tabby writing this, "when will these crimes against kids stop? how can anyone hurt an innocent, defenseless child?" again, we bring it back to that. a 7-year-old girl walking home from school with her twin brother and older sister. they will have scars the rest of their lives through all this. let's take a call. china is with us in connecticut.
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your thoughts here? not there. okay. again, we take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln. mike, do you think investigators have spoken to the kids? we heard from deina thompson yesterday saying the kids have pretty much been taken away from the media that have been around the home. the kids were also two of the last people to see little somer. are you talking to them at this point? >> i think they probably have. that's probably how they were able to get the proximity of where they were from where she was and where they last -- where she was last seen in front of this vacant house that they've been concentrating on. most likely they have, mike. it's very, very difficult. they may go back later on after -- you know, after they've had some time to think about things and ask them additional questions as the case develops. i think, you know, today we know the autopsy was done. law enforcement is holding their cards extremely, extremely close to the vest in this one. not telling what the cause of death is.
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you know what? i don't have a problem with that. do we need to know? absolutely not. is it paramount to the investigation that none of this gets out? it is. absolutely. >> real quick, i want to go back to natisha. natisha, what is the number of sex offenders interviewed in that area? are they all in the clear at this point or just for now? >> mike, they have all been interviewed. i'm not going to say they're all in the clear because nobody has been cleared in this case. they've all been interviewed. there were five that were outstanding. they did gelt those interviews face to face as well as searching the homes and speaking to family members. they were able to locate those five people. all of them have been spoken to and located. they were saying it's 90-plus sex offenders in a five-mile radius in this area. >> natisha, any -- what are the funeral arrangements? public memorials? is there going to be a public memorial? >> funeral arrangements were made today. it is being donated to the family. and as far as a public memorial,
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don't think it's going to be a public memorial. however, there is going to be a procession that with the family, the wake is going to be on monday from 5:00 to 8:00 p.m., and the funeral is going to be tuesday morning at 11:00 a.m. >> natisha, mike, we appreciate it. we'll continue to follow this as we try and find out who killed little somer thompson. coming up this, the sweat lodge situation. we're hearing from another woman who survived this horrifying incident. three people have ended up dead. she was between two people that died. we're going to hear her story through her lawyer, and we'll take your calls on this at 1-877-tell-hln.
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greetings from the twin cities marathon. as you may know, over the last four months, i've been on a sort of campaign to get in the best shape of my life by the time i turn 40 years old. it's been tough in many ways. i decided to get a checkup on how i was doing from personal fitness trainer jillian michaels. let's go talk to her. for the first few days i did this -- again, i don't count calories. i was laevening food on the plate, definitely taking smaller portions, really conscious. i was hungry the first few days. >> that's so hard. >> i was hungry. but i knew once i got beyond that -- >> did you get past the physical feeling of hunger? when that happens, i go with
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volume. get the salad this big. fiber and water, nutrient dense, low calorie when i struggle with that. >> some people tell me that thirst is often perceived as hunger. you think you're hungry, and you're dehydrated. now i just drink more water. it's funny. jillian, like you, i've studied this to the core, fitness, exercise, physiology, all of this. some of the simplest things make the biggest difference, so drinking water, pushing the plate away, and exercise when i can. >> how are you doing with sleep? sleep really affects my hunger levels? >> i won't pass the jillian test on sleep probably. >> you've got three kids and you're all over the world. how much sleep are you getting? how do you feel that affects you? >> it definitely affects me. i feel like, if i get more sleep, i'm going to be in a better groove. the thing that worries me the most is i've had this whole inspiring time over the last four months to do this because
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of 40th birthday. an arbitrary milestone. how do i make this a habit? >> you're going to the gym every day after work. are you finding that manageable? if that's not manageable, then it becomes okay. if you can't get the fitness in, then you push the plate away and you eat less calories. you make the quality of your foods count as much as possible. you steal sleep on the plane, if that's the only way that you can steal it. and you've got to make time. >> getting the compliment from you today. >> you -- i mean, like, i just was like, wow, he looks great. not that i didn't think you looked great before. let me just clarify. you were hot before, and you're hot now. you just -- yeah, you look like you're just lean and mean. >> i feel great. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks so much for your help. obviously, the key to all of this is to maintain this for the rest of my life and hopefully the rest of yours as well. we've got lots of great tips. cnnhealth.com. also on twitter at sanjay gupta cnn.
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>> that had to have been the most memorable segment he's ever done in his life. hugs from her, and also you've got to wonder what was with the blazer over the sweatsuit? i'll ask him. now this. as we cover this story about the sweat lodge, new horrifying revelations. we're hearing another account of what went on in arizona. three people died, we know that. today we're hearing from a woman who was right there, sat between two of the people who ended up dead. sidney spencer, she herself had major organ failure, liver, kidney failure. she is lucky to be alive. she has a lawyer on with us right now, ted schmidt, who's going to relay her account, what happened inside that sweat lodge. also joining us, eric chase, criminal defense attorney, as we look at what could be the defenses of mr. james arthur ray. and also joining us, dr. somi, a critical care surgeon with cornell medical center. we want to find out from the doctor what happens with our body in intense heat like that. first, let's start with ted.
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how's your client doing? sounds like she really went through the ringer, ted. >> she did. she was in intensive care for four days. she's now living at her daughter's home convalescenting. she's walking and talking. >> is she going to be okay? >> well, we don't know. >> you don't know? >> she's definitely going to survive this, and frankly every day she seems to do a little bit better than the past. she's going to be seen by a number of doctors and neurologists and neuropsychologists. one of our biggest concerns is that she suffered some brain injury. she had respiratory arrest. as best we can figure out at this point, she went for well over an hour without medical care before they could actually get her to the hospital. >> okay. what can you tell us?
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has she told you about what happened inside that sweat lodge? >> basically, the sweat lodge experience itself -- you know, i think i should back up just a little bit. these people had just completed a 36-hour plus vision quest. in other words, they were taken out in the desert alone without water or food and left there on tuesday night until thursday morning. they were brought back to the facility, given a very short breakfast, and then rushed into lectures that they sat down and listened to for most of the rest of the day. they all thought that at the end of the lectures they were done. but at the conclusion of that, mr. ray said, i have a surprise for you. we're going to do a sweat lodge experience. you have 15 minutes to go back to your rooms, change your clothes, and meet me out front. they then went into the sweat lodge. they were told just prior to
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going in that the purpose was to have an altered mind experience, that they were likely to experience physical distress, that that was expected and intended, and that they needed to endure that. they needed to, as he likes to say all the time, play full on, break your barriers. the way you're going to have the experience that we need is for you to stick it out. they went inside. she was in the very back row. >> she was in the back row? >> right. up against the wall of the tent or sweat lodge opposite -- not directly opposite, but fairly well opposite the one door in the lodge, which was covered with a flap. >> ted, let me stop you there so we've got the picture. when we come back, we'll get to the details of what happened to his client. again, she had major organ failure. pick up the story after a break.
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