here's some stunning news. another man in a powerful position admitted to an affair with a younger assistant. i know. i was shocked, too. yep. okay. this time the cheater is espn analyst steve phillips. what makes this affair extra tabloid friendly, his 22-year-old mistress has apparently watched "fatal attraction" one too many times. hide that rabbit, kids. joining me to talk about men and the ambitious younger women who love them are comedian nick depalo, lauren lake, attorney and author of "girl, let me tell you" and the author of "divorce sucks," mary jo eustace. welcome, everyone. >> thank you. >> so this guy has an affair with a young woman.

then he breaks it off. she goes to his house. listen to the 911 call from his wife, marney. >> 911, what's your emergency? >> please hurry and come to --. i have a crazy woman who is involved with my husband and she's coming to my house to harm me and my children. >> okay, ma'am is she outside? >> she's pulling down my hill right now. she's in a blue prius. she just pulled past me. >> okay. so you're -- >> going down my driveway. it's a blue car. it's a blue sedan. >> okay. i'm sending officers right now. what's your name? >> please hurry. >> okay. it's a little scary, but isn't this what happens when you fool around with a 22-year-old girl and you're, like, 30 years older than her or whatever he is? >> a real love story. >> a wacky environmentalist, she drives a prius. >> that explains her behavior. >> a left wing nut case.

>> what is this guy thinking? >> she's very, very unattractive. >> how is that relevant? >> wait a minute. >> he's not thinking. >> it is interesting. it is interesting. that is a good point. his wife's a real babe. the 22-year-old -- i don't want to say anything derogatory, but it's always interesting when you meet the other woman because she's not quite what you expect. >> never are. >> know how it reminds me of? prince charles. he drops diana the beauty and goes with the -- >> horse face. >> the rottweiler -- >> the guys are not thinking. >> i'm quoting what -- >> i'm -- >> they're not thinking. >> it's a different part of the body. >> you get a little money, power, success, halfway decent looking. it's a recipe for infidelity in many cases. it's unfortunate. 22 years old. >> how unfortunate. >> i love this argument. i love this argument. >> 22 years old? >> i love this argument from women. 22, she's so young. like you guys don't drool over young guys. >> i married a young guy. my husband is ten years younger

than me. it's not the point. >> i married a hot guy and he left me. i married a hot, young guy. i'm going for an old 90-year-old billionaire. >> emotional needs. >> thank you. >> she contacts this 16-year-old son, this crazy girl, on e-mail. she poses as a teenager when she does that. asks questions about the parents' relationship, and it's now being reported that she hired a stalker through craigslist to harass phillips' wife. >> you can hire stalkers? >> he didn't know the gun was loaded. >> i'm doing my own work. >> you're terrible. >> been hiding in bushes. >> you don't know what you're getting. >> look at this picture from "the new york post." look at the picture. have it? we will get it. there it is. he posed with her. he's a moron. >> clearly -- >> she's mentally a little off, right? >> the picture was not a setup. >> no. >> she definitely is two sandwiches short of the picnic. however, she was credible enough to get a job at his network.

production assistant, but she was there. >> as an intern. >> i think she's got a crush on jack black. >> i read you part of the letter. she writes, i may be 22, but i'm not stupid. to top it off, steve has a big birthmark on his crotch -- >> that's not true. >> which part? how do you know that? a big birthmark on his crotch above his penis and one of his inner left thigh. you know i'm not being fake. that is tmi. >> that's disgusting. >> maybe he spilled coffee on himself. >> you know what's interesting about that? she did the whole letter. she said, i want to -- hi, it's just writing you, the wife, to let you know i'm having an affair with your husband. it's serious because we're not just having sex in parking lots. by the way your last two kids were just because he was guilty over bad affairs. in case you don't think we're talking about the same guy, let me describe his crotch. that's bizarre. >> that's how paula jones got clinton in trouble in the first place when he was the governor of arkansas. remember that? >> yeah. >> she identifies his genitalia and that led to the impeachment case.

>> when will these men learn? now she's written a letter driven up to his house. >> thank you for saying my next statement. they're not going to learn. >> will you quit acting like we're wired the same, men and women? we're totally different. you call us pigs and dogs so are we pigs and dogs or aren't we? >> the point is we are wired differently. i don't know what your beef is with me. i'll tell you my beef with men -- my beef with men who continually cheat but expect sometimes there's going to be a ramification. this girl is a nut case. granted, however, at the same time, when are you going to learn? i'm not talking about you -- >> one at a time, please. otherwise if everybody talks at once -- >> okay. hold on a second. that argument just doesn't go. i'm sorry, it doesn't. men are pigs. yeah, i've had some experiences. >> not all of them. >> some men are pigs. present company excluded. you're a lovely man. i talked to you in the

green room just before you hit me. you're lovely. listen, this woman is 22 years old. women going into the field, they like getting hooked up with powerful men. clearly she's mentally off. but you can't blame it on the men. these women are conclusive. >> you guys are missing my point completely. what i'm saying is that once you make the vow and you're married to someone -- i'm not yelling, i'm passionate. once you make the vow to someone and you're married, all i'm saying is don't you owe the duty and care to your wife to not cheat? >> absolutely. >> that's my point. it's not about her being -- >> let him talk. >> can i ask a question? in the history of show business, has it never been a famous woman who cheated on her husband? where's that story? would you even cover it? >> we're not doing that one now. >> you hear what she said? we're not doing that right now. >> i know. i'm making a nice argument. >> would you cover that story if it happened, joy? >> don't you think married men pay attention to this story? remember "fatal attraction?" >> we learned this stuff in high school. >> a lot of women say their husbands calmed down after they saw that movie. for good reason. remember that movie?

>> i lived through that. >> here's the interesting thing about that movie. this whole argument about cheating. michael douglas had this swanky life this hot wife. >> the actor? >> in "fatal attraction." sorry about that. he had this perfect life and all of a sudden, one weekend, the wife went away up north. he's like i'm going to take advantage of this opportunity. i'm going to take it. he thought he could get away with it. >> the letterman case, even jimmy kimmel is going out with someone on staff. he's not married so we're not getting too upset about him. letterman wasn't married when he was fooling around but he was in a very committed relationship for the past 23 years while he was doing it. what is it about men? why do they feel they can risk everything in their personal lives with their wives for a few minutes of nooky? why? >> you're assuming first of all it's a risk. how do you know the wife didn't cut a deal with letterman?

you know you can do whatever you want. some people do this. as married people. you can do whatever you want. if you're going to make $40 million a year and i can live like a queen, i'm going to turn a blind eye. >> that's cynical. >> cynical, you're right. i just made that up. >> the interesting correlation to that is john edwards who was running for president. clearly he had an affair and probably an illegitimate child and thought he could pull it off. i think it's the ego -- >> at the same time if you don't know who you're with -- >> it doesn't have anything to do with ego. >> yes, it does. >> let's hear from the men. i like to hear, what is the motivation? >> he's telling us. >> it's a need that needs to be scratched. it's nothing to do with ego. it's stupid what he did. but men are risk takers. are we not? >> so it has nothing to do with ego at all? >> it's more risk than women.

>> how come he gets so ticked off when the wife does it? the men go crazy when the wife is having an affair. which doesn't happen as often as men. >> who goes crazy? >> the men. their egos are injured. >> men go crazy when -- when they're married and there's a custody suit and they lose their kids because all the laws benefit the wife in that situation. that's when they go nuts when they take the kids. >> oh that's not true. >> of course it's true. >> men go crazy when women cheat all the time. >> are we in a parallel universe here? everything i have said is a lie? >> it's absolutely not. how long were you married? >> 6 or 22 years. one or the other. >> six years. but i've been with her for 15. >> 15 years. what if she was having an affair on the side? >> she would be doing me a favor at this point. no, i'm kidding. i'd say, look, don't put it on youtube. i don't know. >> you don't really care at this point? >> i do. of course it makes me nuts. >> well, you just agree with what you said we were -- come on, now. >> i have a feeling that you can't even imagine it happening. >> with my wife? it's baloney.

i most certainly can. i picture it every night. >> she lives with him. she knows. but, listen, can i ask you a question, nick, because you are the expert here. >> okay, we have to go. you can ask him off camera. thanks to my panel. by the way, the very funny nick depaulo will be at the houston improv october 29th through november 1st. back with the legendary gore vidal. what a show.

this man once said his greatest achievement was not killing anyone. let's hope that doesn't change tonight. i've been an admirer of his for years, celebrated essayist, novelist, playwright, satirist. we don't have enough space on the prompter to fill in everything that this guy has done. his new memoir is entitled "gore vidal, snapshots in history's glare." welcome to the show. pleasure to have you on the show. >> it's a joy to me, joy, to be on your show. >> now, i started with you wanted to kill somebody. you have anybody in mind right now? >> yes. of course, i do. nobody present, may i say. >> nobody present. that's good. >> we have to get down to the district of columbia where i will go to work to cleanse the republic. >> so you don't want to name names? >> no, i won't name names. >> all right. let's talk about -- i'll name a couple of names. barack obama. >> i like him.

>> mm-hmm. >> i wish he knew more about the united states. i was for hillary at the beginning on the ground she knew how to be president. having sort of done the job as a spouse. and i realized that he's too intelligent for the job. >> obama is -- >> of course. we have the worst-educated population of any first-world country. and i hope you're listening and i hope you know that your lack of education is the joke of the world. it's not a very nice joke. >> you're talking to the americans now. >> the americans, yeah. >> do they make fun of us in italy where you lived for all those years? >> no, because italians are kind. >> i think you have a point. he's a little too smart for the country in a certain way. i mean, after bush, i don't know if the country could take the shock of such a smart guy. >> they didn't. what happened was, for the first

time the american people are people. we're listening on primetime to a president of the united states duly elected officially, anyway -- duly elected president who is speaking as one intelligent, well-educated man to his fellows. well, they never heard anyone like that. i'm a wartime president. you got that? i'm a wartime president. and he's marching along there. and let me tell you, if we don't fight them over here, we're going to have to fight them here. i'm all for fighting them right here at that moment, you know? but i couldn't jump into the screen fast enough to kill him off. that's one murder that i missed not committing. >> yeah, too late anyway. >> right. >> so, you know, obama, the other thing about him is he's always trying to be bipartisan. you know?

>> it don't work. >> it's not working. >> no. and i think he realized it's not working. and feels like he's been president, you know, since mckinley. and i wish him well. and he comes up with nice ideas. i mean, but his health care thing has me in knots. my brain is in knots. >> it does? >> when i think about it, i don't know what it means. >> none of us understand it. it's to our credit we don't. we aren't working for the banks that got, what is it, $700 trillion or something? from the previous administration. which was, god, they were generous to a fault. >> they loved to give money to the rich in this country. >> the rich deserve the money. you see, if you're a really a good protestant -- i suspect you might be catholic -- but we

protestants firmly believe if you're a good person, you're rich. >> yes. >> if you're a poor person, you're poor. >> and you deserve to be -- >> otherwise, god wouldn't have made you that way. >> that's right. that's calvinism. >> oh, honey, i knew you'd drop his name. are you still dating him? >> no. he -- he wasn't that good in bed. >> well, i don't know, everybody swore by him in washington in the old days. but it's the new regime now. >> last night at the "y" -- or the night before, wherever it was, it was interesting. we were talking about comedy. you're very funny and you're a satirist. and i'm in the comedy business myself even though you can't tell from this interview. >> i can tell. >>ier, you said something interesting. you said comedy is cruel. now, that would make dick cheney funny. and he's not. >> come on.

vice president of the united states, a working sadist who is trying to get more prisons to lock up people to give them the water treatment? i mean, come on. i can't think of any higher comedy that we've had. >> yeah, that's a riot, all right. >> wowy. that's about as funny as it gets, you know? >> so, that's -- the other thing i want to ask you, so many things, i could just stay here all day. but you -- you have a longtime partner, howard -- >> mm-hmm. >> i read you said the secret to the success of the relationship was no sex. >> of course. >> ever. >> i thought that was clear. >> no, i wasn't sure if it just petered out like everybody -- >> no, we were virgins. >> that's interesting. that's a platonic relationship, no? or do you call it a love match? >> i never knew what plato was up to. we only have his word for it. >> so that's interesting

because -- so you were able to really stay together because there was none of that sexual jealousy going on, i guess? none of that. none of the sexual jealousy going on? >> no i can't imagine being jealous of anybody over sex. of all things. >> it appears all the time. >> yeah, go out in the street and grab something passing up it's like you are just as well off as you were looking out. >> i presume from that that you are not interested in gay marriage in any way, it doesn't interest you? >> no, both put me to sleep. >> we'll have more coming up. >> i think our tradition now has shifted in my lifetime we were in the center stage the poets

had been pushed off. what do we have in the center? we have the film which is one of the most ridiculous expressions on earth.

a beautiful silver space-like balloon soaring through the clouds.

tonight, and apparently it all ends in felony charges. police sheriff, national guards, volunteers the faa, and even a whole airport and commercial carriers trying to save the life of a 6-year-old boy, falcon heene who his brothers and parents say is trapped inside the homemade balloon racing through the sky. eyewitness reports something or somebody falls thousands of feet to rough terrain near the colorado rocky mountains. after 16 miles of terror, the balloon lands. no boy! was he dead? was he injured? was he lying down some reconvenient with every bone in his body broken? no. he was hiding. hiding in the family attic the whole time, blurting out on national tv that it was all

quote, for the show. and that same child, no service he vaumomits when asked the same question. bombshell tonight, just released, destraut and seemingly heartbreaking 911 calls from the boy's father and mother, both breaking down over their son's life threatened. but was the stunt in the works for months. tonight, more disturbing news about the little boys' home environment. in addition to domestic abuse 911 calls to the home, the little boys ages 6, 8 and 10 appear on youtube, and a rap song allegedly their dad wrote and taught them full of filthy

language. the title is so shocking we are disallowed from saying it on the air. but you can hear the children spewing it out age 6, 8 and 10 on youtube under the direction of their father. looks like bye-bye reality show hello cellblock.

>> the first thing that came to my mind was who would possibly do something like this? it has to be richard heene. so when i actually saw this on tv, i didn't realize how serious this was until later on in the

day. i was actually helping my friends move. as the news stories progress and the buzz sort of built and watching falcon actually say on tv, well, we did this for the show, that's when all my questions were answered. and tonight, satsuma, florida. a 5-year-old little girl tucked into bed. five hours later, she's gone. vanished. daddy comes home from the nightshift to find not a trace of little haleigh. the last person to see the 5-year-old alive that night, new stepmother misty croslin. just hours after croslin handcuffed by cops on alleged road rage, she flies to new york taking to the air to declare she's innocent. in that brief interview, she can't keep the story straight. first claiming she knows nothing about haleigh's whereabouts, then blurting out the other side of the family took haleigh. then a 180 on the failed lie detector, claiming she passed, then admitting she failed. after her brother tells cops he

was at the home that night, no sign of croslin, completely debunking her story, her own mother saying croslin's not coming clean. croslin's tv response? they betrayed me. they're the bad guys. look at them, not me. minutes after that debacle on national tv, her lawyer dumps her. breaking tonight, croslin back at police headquarters. but this time she claims she's the victim, claiming she was robbed at gunpoint. but did the alleged robbery go down in the middle of a drug deal? was croslin scoring dope? if so, what does it mean in the search for haleigh? this as we learn croslin's mom is interrogated by police about her daughter's involvement in haleigh's disappearance. what does she reveal?

>> breaking news. the ex-wife of ronald cummings, the last known person to see haleigh alive, misty croslin, has been robbed while she and friends were allegedly trying to buy illegal drugs. police say misty and two friends were robbed by two or three men outside an apartment complex. >> you made an accusation that she was on a drug binge. do you have any evidence to support it? >> no i don't. it was just a thought. maybe she was and maybe she wasn't. >> the cops say at first they were told the woman where there to visit friends but learned they were actually there to

score drugs. police didn't know what type of drugs they were allegedly trying to buy. >> what does it say about her and who she is willing to betray? is she betraying ron? is she betraying haleigh? >> mr. cummings, i can say that tonight for the first time, i don't believe you. i think you do suspect your ex-wife, soon to be ex-wife's story. >> his main concern is finding his daughter. he don't care who it implicates. >> this, as misty's father, tells journalist art harris there's no way misty hurt haleigh. >> are you saying you didn't fail the polygraph like people and law enforcement are kind of claiming you did? >> no, i did not. >> okay. so bottom line, you don't know where haleigh is? >> bottom line. good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. live, colorado, the whole country on pins and needles. a little 6-year-old boy's life hanging in the balance and a beautiful silver space-like balloon soaring through the clouds. tonight, more of the stunning 911 calls from mommy and daddy and, tonight, surfacing on youtube, a profanity-laced rap

song. these three little boys apparently learned at home. what does that say about their home environment and what do these 911 calls prove?

>> he's a very creative individual, very hyperactive. >> he's a very creative individual, very hyperactive. unfortunately i think he's a little driven by his fame and really interested in kind of promoting himself. i think he had the, you know, the ego from "wife swap" and appearing several times on "wife swap." >> i hate these pajamas. these pajamas always stick to me. ahhh! ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> you are seeing, we are seeing the rap song that the heenes thought was okay to put on youtube, a song they wrote and produced their children to sing. we have bleeped out most of what we could understand of the profanities. i can't even say the name of the

song. it is a sexual slur on women, is the name of the song they have taught these children to sing. 6 years old, 8 years old, 10 years old. the "f" word, the "s" word, calling gay men faggots up trees is in this song. okay. let's get back to the whole balloon stunt. out to sarah hanson and thank you for being with us sarah. what can you tell me is the latest? >> the latest is we are waiting until next week when the sheriff's office investigators and the attorney's office will meet to discuss possible charges. >> and to the senior editor, what do we know about the proof

prosecutors may have to show this whole thing was a stunt, and the heartbreaking 911 call was nothing more than a performance, and mommy included. >> we do know the heenes had a long history of playing up for the cameras. this is something that they reared their children to do. we do know that investigators were tipped off after they saw the family on cnn when little falcon slipped up and said i thought this was for the cameras. that's what tipped them off and made them realize this is what was for show. >> tonight more stunning parts of the 911 call and it breaks your heart to hear them break down in tears. this is heene's former researcher. thank you for be with us.

>> thanks for having me. >> you know, more mr. thomas, as a hardened felony prosecutor, i put people behind bars on rape, murder, child molestation, dope, trafficking investigation. this is a stunt. do they need to go to jail? now that i'm hearing about a prior 911 domestic abuse and this rap song using the children has surfaced, i want to talk to you about how far you believe mr. heene would go? was this all a stunt with the balloon? using his boys? >> i, personally, believe that it was a stunt. my perspective isn't just based on the media. it's based on my own personal experience with mr. heene.

how many legitimate 911 calls came in that day? how many people needed police, needed sheriffs, needed help? but no, everybody was consumed trying to save this 6-year-old boy's life up in a balloon. he was never there. back to robert thomas a special guest from new york. thank you for being with us. at first your mind was open and then it r quickly it came to be this was a stunt. what have you told police? >> i first met richard back in march. i have a few renewable energy projects i am working on and a website designed to bring people together with technological ideas to benefit humanity. so i saw richard heene's science detectives and thought this is a

great opportunity to collaborate with somebody. i was kind of shocked, you know to see how things would transition after that point as the months progressed, and i worked for him doing various activities, and things got weirder and weirder, and they culminated to a point where this took place.

stunt? was that whole 911, eh eh eh, my son's going to die, was that all b.s.? a lot of people think it is. you seem to have answers. why do you think it was a stunt? >> well, i started working with richard back in march and one of the things i did for richard was help put his ideas down on paper. in this case, his idea is his

outlandish attempts to become famous in any way he possibly could. he needed help writing a proposal for abc. one of those sections in the proposal is so similar to this event that when this started actually happening on tv, i was completely taken aback. i knew right away there's really no chance -- the odds of it not being a hoax are so slim it's like getting struck by lightning repeatedly. >> okay. let me get this straight. robert, you're telling me he had a list of proposals, tv ideas, and one of them was so similar to this stunt. what did it say? wait a minute, i have one. can we attract ufos with a homemade flying saucer? a modified weather balloon? it resembles a ufo. we'll get the footage on film and utilize the media as the means with which to make our presence known to the masses? generate a tremendous amount of

controversy. does that sound familiar, robert? >> yeah, it sounded so familiar that a friend of 15 years called me and he remembered me discussing this with him months prior. i want to clarify, i had nothing to do with this event. i had nothing to do with the planning. >> absolutely, you did not. in fact, you after much consideration actually spoke with authorities. with me, robert thomas. we hardly think you'd rat yourself out. unleash the lawyers. john burris, alan ripka. the rap song aside, the alleged 911 domestic abuse call to the home aside, and that's another can of worms. first of all this. this is exactly his proposal except he used his own children,

according to authorities. >> it's a fraud, no doubt about that. i think the man has to be prosecuted, flat-out for this kind of conduct involving the public and his children. >> alan ripka, what's your best defense? >> one thing has nothing to do with the other. in this case it would not be unlikely for a child to climb into that flying saucer, nancy.

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♪ watch richard heene, psycience detective ♪ ♪ see and explain everything on earth ♪ ♪ comets and tornadoes and the secrets of earth ♪ ♪ he'll give you information from a new perspective ♪ ♪ watch richard heene, psycience detective ♪ everyone, you are seeing the balloon that went through the air, allegedly with a 6-year-old boy inside it. you're hearing the theme song to "psycience detective." robert thomas, have you ever heard that theme song before? was that part of one of his reality show pitches? >> that wasn't one of his reality show pitches. i never personally heard that song but did catch a couple clips of his psycience detective videos on the internet. that's why i reached out to him.

he seemed to be interested in studying nature and how it could apply to making new technologies to benefit mankind. that was really my goal. >> robert, you said one of his treatments for a reality show is almost identical to this particular stunt that we're showing right now. did you have conversations with him about the stunt? not the one where he claims his kid is up in the air, but prior to that, what was the plan? >> we were just sitting down and getting a bite to eat and were discussing a book i was reading at the time on roswell. when i say roswell i'm referring to the event that took place in 1947. my question for richard was richard, do you think this was real? do you think something actually crashed or do you think this was an elaborate media hoax? i was completely taken to a new level. richard at that moment in time stood up, his eyes got all wide. he said, that's it! that's it!

that's exactly what i'm going to do and goes running into his office and basically, i follow him in there, we start talking about his idea which his idea was to -- exactly what you read. it was to use a weather balloon and basically spin off of roswell and try to do something on a much larger scale because we live in such a technological society now that, you know, the news spreads incredibly fast. >> a larger scale. i mean, it's put together with tinfoil and duct tape. what do you mean by larger scale? by including his 6-year-old boy? >> i wasn't aware of that at the time -- >> okay. let me back it up. take a listen to this. this was a couple hours ago. listen. >> he's got talent, but he abuses it by going after these crazy things. >> he was always looking for this kind of thing. he was always wanting a big moment. >> any stardom to him is good

stardom. whether it's good or bad, it's still good stardom. >> former co-worker and friend of heene's on nbc's "today" show. just a couple hours ago. would that describe him? >> richard was all about the controversy and about creating a buzz of any kind. i think this all really started with "wife swap." he got a little taste of stardom and wanted more and more and more. >> take a look at heene on "wife swap." he made several appearances on the show. there you see his children involved, obviously, in the show. it seems as if a lot of his endeavors to get fame for himself involve using, utilizing his children. i want to go back to the rap song. norm, if you could cue that up for me. mike brooks, former fed with the fbi, weigh in. >> nancy, i tell you what. i'm looking forward to next week

to see what charges he gets locked up for. conspiracy, delinquency of a child, attempting to basically con a public servant and i hope that the fbi goes after him for some federal charges. now, the faa, they're taking a look, too. they can only charge him with faa violations, f.a.r.s for civil penalties. i can tell you what, they can get in your pocket. >> look at this, mike brooks. show me, norm. >> they call this guy a detective? i was a detective. that's an insult to me. look at this, with these kids. ♪ >> to dr. jeff gardere. dr. gardere, we went round and round and round about whether i could even tell you the title to the song, and ultimately we

decided that we shouldn't. not that i don't want to not give you the news, but it would be giving such a bad example to say that word on the air. it is a horrible slur on women. >> all right. >> that's the title to the song. >> sure. >> the "f" word. s-h-i-t is in there. >> references to gays are in there. >> i would not let my kids hear filthy talk like that. to have you child -- to teach your child to say that, to sing it? i mean, all of this was put in singing lyrics and then you saw the shot where the little boy is sitting on a commode and he is covered with fake excrement. i guess fake excrement.

dr. gardere, help me out. >> what cost the price of fame. we look at richard heene, he's not just obsessed with being famous. >> listen. i wasn't down on him to begin with. i thought this was a bad idea. the more i'm hearing about it, he may have utilized this children. >> i have to tell you this, nancy, i was one of the first in the media as a shrink to talk about i thought there was something wrong going on with a lot of the interviews that they gave. he seemed very disingenuous. turns out he was a cheap actor with this. my concern here is exactly yours, nancy. what is he doing to the character of these young kids? as a publicity stunt. he's teaching them negative values about people. it's wrong. >> clark gold jan band, what can you tell me? >> is there a fracture in the family? i can tell you mayumi, the wife of mr. heene, has her own

attorney. this attorney telling abc news he doesn't deal in divorce, only criminal manners. he is inferring if there are charges against mr. heene then mrs. heene should not be charged. she's been manipulated. >> everyone with us tonight, not only robert thomas, richard heene's former researcher, his colleague, but also his attorney, linda lee on joining us. thank you for being with us. no one suspects your client of any wrongdoing. i'm grateful to the two of you being with us. we'll all be right back. to tonight's safety tip. nearly 800,000 children reported missing each year. many kidnapped going to and from school. your child should travel with at least one other person. have a safe route to walk. avoid alleys, stairwells, shortcuts. children at school bus stops must be supervised. know where registered sex offenders are located. your child must avoid walking near their home. they must.

children over 10 should have a cell phone for emergencies. teach them how to react to threats by telling them to run, scream or call for help. for more information go to klaaskids.org.

that last call you were hearing is an alleged 911 domestic abuse call. when police get to the home, clark goldband, what do they find? >> yes, nancy. law enforcement arrive at the home because of the 911 call and found red marks on wife, mayumi. they hear yelling. they ask about it and he says that was the kids you heard. law enforcement didn't believe it, but not enough probable cause for an arrest. >> isn't it true her eye appeared to have blood vessels broken in it? as they were there, police noted swelling began on the wife's

face? >> yes, law enforcement said it became progressively worse. >> very quickly, mark klass weigh in on this. this is touching more and more on the home environment of these children. >> sure. well, nancy as one of the teaming masses i am struck by the irony that heene has achieved his goal. he is now one of the most-talked about men in america and it's not for his stellar showmanship but exposed himself as a third-rate con man, and he uses his own children to dau mean woman and gays and to swear and lie. whatever this guy has coming to him, he totally deserves, and i hope he gets it. beyond that, i hope he is forced to pay restitution for the

public resource that went towards pulling this balloon down and ultimately uncovering the hoax. >> he will probably have to get his own reality show to pay the rest of the institution. maybe that would be the reality show "how i paid my restitution." >> to linda lee, attorney for robert thomas. linda, again, thank you for being with us and you, too, robert. you know, your client, robert thomas, had a series of e-mails back and forth with heene. which were, in my mind, probative not necessarily of the hoax, itself, but of his relationship that he did have the relationship he claimed to have with heene. >> that's correct. >> now sold those e-mails to gawker.com and faced a lot of criticism for that. i always wonder -- i would never be happy as a prosecutor that a witness sold a story. why does everybody focus on that, that he sold e-mails as opposed to what could be the real crime here? >> well, nancy, i have no idea

why they are focusing on that. as a former prosecutor, myself, i agree. it's not really about what he did in terms of selling this. believe me, it was a minimal, minimal amount that he received. that was long before i joined the case. however, as a prosecutor, what's more important is justice here. the reality is we now have proof this was a hoax. we have proof that mr. heene is not who he claims to be and, in fact, he was trying to deceive everyone. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. he fooled the police in the beginning but i hope he doesn't get to fool the jury. now, we're switching gears. believe it or not, misty croslin, the new stepmother of missing girl, haleigh cummings claims to have been armed robbed. here's the kicker. was she in the middle of a dope deal web when the robbery went down?

what does she say to 911? i want to report somebody just stole my dope. listen. >> it's just a divorce. i mean, i don't want a divorce, but it's what he wants so, whatever. >> the last person to see haleigh alive is the last person to finally sign divorce papers. will these boost the investigation into what happened to 5-year-old haleigh? >> the whole relationship right from the very beginning has been tumultuous from the time the police report was taken. maybe now that, you know, ronald's not there to protect her -- >> to art harris at artharris.com. what can you tell me? >> misty cummings has made another controversial 911 call, not about a missing child, haleigh, but herself as a victim of a possible drug deal gone wrong. she was out with two girlfriends, they were driving around monday night. she was in the back seat when one got out to meet a friend at an apartment complex, comes back, two or three unidentified men grab misty, grab her purse, get into some kind of fight and they take her purse.

misty then calls 911 and makes this report. >> what evidence, if any, do we have she was involved in a dope deal? >> we only have the statement of the driver and a friend that they had gone to this place to buy dope. i talked to her father last night. >> wait. art, so are those the two people who were with her at the time? >> that's correct. >> they are incriminating themselves by saying that. >> that's right, nancy. it's a strange situation that police would be out investigating victims of a possible dope deal gone wrong with misty in the backseat. she told her father who i talked to that she was not there to buy dope. he thought they were there to buy pot. misty had stopped smoking pot a long time ago. >> pot. pot. okay, art, what did the other girls say they were buying? >> they did not specify the drugs they were buying, but police did find a crushed bottle of pills outside the apartment where one girl lived. later, when they spoke with

them, they took it into evidence, nancy. >> a bottle of pills is not the dope being sold at the scene of the crime. to marlaina schiavo, what was it they were allegedly buying? i'm not buying into the theory that they go that far and get in that much danger for a joint. okay? >> yeah, that's what hank croslin is saying, misty's father. police are not telling us what the drug was at this point. we may find out down the line, though, nancy. >> ellie jostad, what more can you tell me? >> as art and marlaina explained, they did find a bottle of pills at the scene. that was taken into evidence. we may find out from that what drugs they were trying to purchase. misty and her friend has their purses taken. misty had her cell phone taken. misty called 911 saying her arm hurts, her leg hurts, she was injured in this accident. >> okay.

art harris, what's to be done about it? what, if anything, how does it affect the investigation? does it seem more possible that misty croslin was using drugs that night or was not in the home? >> nancy, there's lots of speculation. this report was forwarded to detectives with the putnam county sheriff's department that were investigating the haleigh cummings case. the pollacka police were not involved with this. this shows misty cast adrift. she's living with girlfriends. who were also teenagers. she hasn't gone home yet. although i heard that may happen. she's out there and anything can happen with misty. i want to go to the doctor. thank you for being with us tonight. why i am so interested in what particular drug it was, if a child injested a couple rocks of crack, like ate it say you got a $25 rock and a child ate a

couple of those, what would it do to the child? >> it would have narcotic affects. it's not absorbed as strongly as when it's snorted, but could stop your normal breathing. we have seen people commit crazy crimes against their own family members, even at times selling of a child into prostitution because the drive of these drugs are so strong. >> doctor if she did injest several hits of crack could it kill her? >> yes, it could kill her at high doses, yes, nancy.

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