this hour a community on high alert reeling from the murder of an innocent 7-year-old. somer thompson kidnapped walking home from school and killed, thrown in the trash, it is heinous. mr. is are warning people to be on the lookout for any suspicious, shady changes in behavior. is there a killer living among them? plus schools cleaning up the dance floor banning kids from getting down. face it and they are getting dirty. kids even have to seen a contract meaning no bumping, no grinding, enough the racy outfits. well, good, it's about time. come on, you want to see kids out there basically having sex on the dance floor?

call in, we love hearing from you, the number 1-877-tell-hln. e-mail us or text us. start your message with the word "prime." your chance to be heard. welcome once again this is "prime news" i'm mike galanos. this just into us at "prime news." a short time ago four suspects in the brutal gang rape of a high school student appeared in court and only one pleaded not guilty. police in california say, again, a story we continue to cover and grapple with, a 15-year-old girl sexually assaulted in a dark back alley outside of a homecoming dance, brutalized two and a half hours no. one did anything. we want to know how. now some students say the school knew it didn't have enough security. they did nothing about it. >> we were laughed at last summer for asking for 13 security guards. we were laughed at when we said

we needed $80,000 worth of cameras. i went to dejohn middle school myself to look at their camera systems to make sure that those would be the best quality for richmond high. our school approved them. we never got them. >> we'll take your calls on this, 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number. joining me to talk about this prosecutor robin saks, henry lee, reporter "san francisco chronicle" and joining us cammy baker, junior at richmond high school where the attack took place and friend of the victim starting with you, take us back to that night. did you feel safe at the dance or did you feel something was not quite right some. >> i felt safe at the dance mostly. i mean, there was police officers, there was security officers. but, i felt if i left the dance floor and left out of the gym, i knew that something bad would have happened. so, i stayed inside. >> so, you're telling me you didn't feel safe walking outside

that dance and anybody who did could get in some trouble. >> no. richmond is [ inaudible ] city at night, you have to be careful. i was lucky enough to have a ride to and from the dance, so i felt mostly safe. the only problem is when i saw the security officers leave, i said, there is a higher percentage that something bad could happen. >> i mean, was there security there or not, and did you -- >> there was four security guards. >> and they were inside? and were any of them patrolling outside? >> there was a police officer who was patrolling the perimeter of the gymnasium outside of it. >> okay. >> -- phone call. >> and the attack took place how far away from the gym? >> about a block. >> so quite a ways away. this officer would not have seen that. did you get word like others an attack was going on when you

were in the dance? >> we didn't figure out about the attack until the next morning. >> okay. so, you get owe you find out there was an attack and when you found out it was a friend, what was your reaction? >> i started crying. i mean, it was a friend. i mean, she's not a close friend. she's actually an acquaintance of mine but still nonetheless she was a nice girl, she was outgoing and i had an idea straight from the start i had a gut feeling it was her because i did see her leave early but me and my little sister only thought of it as she was going home early because it seems like 9:30, 10:00 is a reasonable hour for a sophomore to go home. >> yeah. do you feel less safe now at the school? >> my parents feel like i'm less safe in richmond in general only because if happened so close to ho home. but my dad just said he's scared to let me go back to school, back and forth alone but he just

has to trust -- >> right. do you feel that the school is adequately protecting students there? >> during school hours, it's protecting us perfectly. the security guards, if you are outside of your classroom, they hall sweep, which means they send you back to your classroom and give you detention if you are late because they know that the safest place for you to be at campus at all times is in the classroom. >> what would you like to see changed at your school after this tragedy? >> not necessarily with the school but with men in general, i want to see men in general to know that females are not -- they just dehumanize the female. this did all these things to her and they didn't have any kind of self-conscious like that was a female attack and you shouldn't think of her as just some piece of meat, she has feelings and human and you have to realize you have mothers and sisters and

grandparents. >> you are speaking beyond your years so. many of us feel that way. we can't fathom students students 15, 14 could do this to another 15-year-old. what are your thoughts on that? i'm sure it's hard for you to fathom, as well, isn't it? >> i was talking to the principal this morning and he was telling me he doesn't feel like any of the students at our schooling could do this with a level mind. i personally feel that it was mob mentality. >> yeah. >> and conformism. the age ranges were from 14 to 21. that is crazy. i feel like it was probably like they say a brother doing it and forced by say a brother or cousin and had to do it in order -- like the snitching, we need to stop snitching. they were scared they were going to snitch on so they participated even though they felt how wrong it was. >> kami, thank you again for coming on. i know it's a difficult topic and difficult for you and your

fellow students to go through but thank you for coming on. want to bring in robin saks -- again she brought up great points in all this. talk about what the school could have done in listening to that. obvious -- i mean, any of us know outside of the school dance you have to have a pretty good -- that's where you need your security, right? let's start there. >> absolutely. security is a must all over the place and i think one of the great ways that we are failing our students and failing children all the time is in our fear of proactively dealing with these situations. so often, question look at these in retrospect and people think if we get security guards that will somehow mean our school is unsafe or talk about these issues of safety it can somehow mean it could happen here i think protocol and proactive protocol is in order. we heard a few weeks ago on

mackenzie ph mackenz mackenzie phillips and people still doubted her. >> we have henry lee a reporter on the case and we'll find out the latest on this investigation and take your calls as again, we try to come to grips and figure this out. call in, the number 1-877-tell-hln.

this is one of the most brutal crimes i've seen in my 15 years as a cop. on saturday night after a dance here on the richmond campus we responded and found our victim, unconscious. we caught one individual as the officers made contact with the

victim found she was unconscious and was stripped naked. what we do know is that multiple suspects physically beat her, robbed her, and sexually assaulted her. and only a few hours ago was she released from the hospital. >> just a brutal description there of what happened to a 15-year-old at richmond high school, gang raped and beaten taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. want to bring in henry lee, reporter "san francisco chronicle." couple things real quickly first off how is the victim doing, do we know. >> as, indeed, the police said she is out of the hospital physically relatively okay but as you know rape and sexual assault is a life-altering event that will leave lasting scars. >> five arrests, henry, where we stand now? >> today, four of them were in court. three of the four are juveniles but tried as adults, mike. and they have been charged all four of them with enhancements that could mean life in prison if convicted. the juveniles were in court today wearing bullets-proof vests because of the notoriety

of this terrible case. >> henry -- are authorities releasing any other information, number of attackers, number of bystandingers anything at all. >> they are saying at most probably a dozen attackers, several specific participants and, indeed, up to two dozen people who did nothing and didn't talk to police about what happened until they were forced, to when arrested. >> wow. let's take a call, jeff with us from iowa. your thoughts? >> caller: i was kind of curious how all of the bystanders couldn't be charged as accessory to the crime. >> let's go to robin sax on that. we heard from henry up to 24, two dozen people watching and doing nothing. is there a way they can be charged? >> there actually is a way for them to be charged as an accessory after the fact or even as coconspirators depending the evidence how it shakes out and proves. if it shows they were actually encouraging and inciting the crime, therefore, contributing to the length of the assault, they actually can be charged

with the specific rapes themselves. so, that's what we're all kind of holding on and hoping for that little bit of justice there. >> robin, i'll looking at a couple of facebooks and paraphrase since the clock is ticking on uls. one blaming lack of school security others saying no, the suspects and bystanders to blame. robin, as you look at this case, who do we focus on now? did the school fail these kids, this one victim especially? >> i think that you can't look at one circumstance. it is, it's a combination, the perfect storm of the most debraved, hard suspects combined with not the best security and add in our lack of knowledge and our lack of appreciation for sexual assault, mix it all up and this is what we've got. >> wow. guys we have to leave it there. we appreciate it. coming up the latest on somer thompson who killed her. are police closer to finding out? the feeling we are getting from authorities, it's someone in this tight-knit communities,

maybe a neighborhood someone who knew somer and her family.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. a monster roaming free and police are turning to the public to find somer thompson's killer. cops in orange park, florida released a profile of a possible suspect things to it watch for her, is it someone within that tight-knit community? family and neighbors out rage

who had could murder an innocent 7-year-old dump her body in a landfill like a piece of trash? taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us criminal profiler brent turvy also with us natisha lance from the "nancy grace show" update us. anything new in the search for her killer. >> like you said, mike, investigators are for you looking to the public to help them find the person responsible for somer thompson's death. some things they are saying that people in the public should look out for unexplained injuries, cuts or bruises on a person, increased nervousness or irtality. what they are saying there are people out there who they believe have information pertaining to this investigation and may not even know it, it could be something very simple and very small they could know this person who is responsible for this. and they want to hear from as many people as poblg. they have said they have had an increase of calls that have come in since they released this behavioral profile rekrent but still do not have that final piece of the puzzle to solve the

case. >> let's go to brent turvy, criminal profiler. you hear this, that simple someone's change of behavior, change of appearance, a bruise, a cut, could be that simple? >> it really isn't. this profile, as she's calling it or they are calling it that's been released is very similar to those that have been released before in many cases throughout the years. in fact, this particular profile has its origins back in the 1980s. it is' the kind of standard stock response that you give when you really don't know what happened and i think that's a fair comment here. we have a lot of investigating that still needs to be done and need to know was she put in a dumpster transport to the landfill or taken there. the victim's house, has that been treated as a crime scene collecting evidence from there to compare. what are the other steps being taken? at the break, there was a mention of it may be somebody she might know. that's really important. making the time line of the last known activities doing the friends and family list, running through those names trying to

eliminate as many people close to home as possible to focus on a parallel investigation of a possible stranger, because those are far less common, the stranger crimes -- >> from what you have seen what we know, are you seeing a serial killer who has done this before? >> no, i'm not seeing that at all which is kind of amazing that we're hearing that from people in the media. i'm not seeing a lot of skill or competence. i'm seeing a very immature sort of tv-like behavior of putting the body in the garbage. in fact if you are a competent skilled serial offender where you will dispose a body is far away and the potential of discovery as possible. putting a body in a landfill is a lot of risk. you are taking a risk you are actually going to have the body identified or be seen when you are doing things in the city. there's obviously a chance of being seen by witnesses along the route, a chance of being videotaped because dumps tend to be associated with businesses. there are a lot of risks there. someone who is skilled and

profit or done this before wouldn't necessarily want to take those risks. >> brent is talking a lot about the landfill are they still going through, the garbage, i hate to talk about this where little somer was found. >> there are items they have found in that landfill to the crime lab in jacksonville. he was also talking about whether or not she was taken to the landfill or was she transported there, what we do know is that she was in one of those trucks one of the nine trucks that had 25 tons of garbage in each one of them. they have narrowed it down to the truck she was in and then eventually dumped at the landfill. so, she wasn't placed at the landfill. she was transported there. >> i believe we have a call from paula in massachusetts. your comment or question here center. >> caller: hi, mike. i was wondering two days ago there was the report of an armed robbery at the child's home, the day that her body was found. i haven't heard any more about that. could you tell me anything. >> natisha, can you update that? had you heard that report? >> there were some reports of

that. we did ask the public information officer about that and they said it was an actual computer error that because someone had had this address on their mind so much, they put in the wrong address. >> one other thing before we go, the vacant house, authorities, we assume were gathering evidence. are they still looking over that home? >> that home has been cleared at this point there. was evidence that was collected there, as well as the park that was across the street from there and that park, mike, i think we have talked about before. there is a bathroom that is connected to that park, a men's room there, is a women's room. they also collected evidence from that men's room. so, once again, it's still being -- still at the jacksonville crime lab. >> okay. guys, thanks again. natisha, brent. we appreciate it. coming up a jury says the maker of baseball bats failed to warn about the dangers of their aluminum bats. basically holding them responsible for the death of an 18-year-old. call in, 1-877-tell-hln. @@@@

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. coming up, freak dancing, to the point where two schools in california are making parents and students sign contracts so no more bumping and grinding, no more simulated sex on the dance floor. good. hey, you've got to do something to clean things up. what do you think? is this the right action, going too far? call in on this 1-877-tell-hln. that's coming up in a little bit. meantime want to hear from you on this topic, talking about louisville slugger being held responsible in the death of an 18-year-old. brandon patch. happened in 2003. because basically they did not give proper warning that the bats could be dangerous. let's read the statement from the makers of louisville

slugger. here we go, it's somewhat lengthy but need to get it out there. here we go. this was an emotional case and we believe the jury responded to that and issued an emotional verdict. our company did nothing wrong. we made a bat in accordance with the rules that. bat was approved for play by baseball's organizing and organizations. in fact, the jitter found in our favor that the bat was not defective however the verdict that our company failed to adequately warn of the dangers of the bat has left us puzzled. it seems contradictory for the jury to say the bat is not defective but our company failed to warn that it could be dangero dangerous. it appears to be an indictment. unfortunately, this verdict seems to be a statement on the society we live in today that everything must have a warning label. almost finished here hang with me. we sympathize with the patch family over their loss as we have since we first learned of this terrible accident but we still believe this was an accident on a baseball field.

perhaps this will give the patch family some closure. we hope it does. there's the statement there, they were puzzled there. let's get the reaction of two guys on separate sides on this one. attorney, sports writer, well versed in the study of aluminum bats their potential danger. steve, basically an advocate of wood bats and mike may from the don't take my bat away coalition. first off steve, were you surprised that the ruling went in the family's favor. >> i'm not surprised, mike. it's good to be with you. i understand that louisville slugger that said this was a indictment of baseball. in fact, i think it's an indictment of the aluminum baseball bat. we've discussed this over the years, in fact i've discussed it with mike may at times. we think the whole aluminum bat controversy could be ended and the dangers could be ended by putting the game back to wooden bats, where it's been for 100 years before them. >> mike, i'll let you respond. you guys are familiar with each other? >> yes. i respect his position and first

of all i have great sympathy for the entire patch family as does the entire baseball community. it's a loss that no one should suffer and it's an accident which we hope will never be repeated again but the metal bat or non-wood bat has been around since the early 1970s, 40 years a fromdation with baseball right now and hopefully will be for years to come and the bat was, again, was made to specs created by the associations that govern the game, by people who work every single day for the game of baseball. that work for the best interests of the athlete. they would not approve a bad that would any way pose a danger to the athlete. >> let me ask you, this bob. the bat i used as a kid in the '70s, reynolds's aluminum, you know the aluminum foil people, the people who made bats then that bat is a lot different from those of today. the bats of today are -- that ball is popping off a lot harder than it was then, right? we can admit that or agree on that? >> no, that's not true. >> you think the reynolds bats i

used, the ball is tram leaning off the same as now? >> today's bat does not perform -- it performs to a lower standard than that of the early years because bat standards have changed, bat standards have tightened. in fact in 2002, they looked at old bat standards and said bats are okay then the baseball industry regulated itself created the besr standard and that was in 2003. >> okay. >> and that's the bat used unfortunately in the brandon patch case but it's bean very safe game forever and especially safe since the besr standards in place. >> steve, do you agree with that assessment? >> not at all. you talked about when you played, mike. you know that bat at that time was a heavier, deader, it was not made for people to really whip the bat through the zone, to have more bat speed. i mean, you know how it is. i would suggest that anyone go out and look at these bats, play with these bats, pitch -- pitch to kids with wood and aluminum, you will see the difference

immediately. >> okay. to that point, mike, i got to challenge you, i mean, when i played -- going back to the stone ages but anyway, there was not a 30-winch a 20 ounce difference. i mean, i had a 30 inch bat and that was it. that bat my kids use now i can whip that through the zone, they can whip it through the zone a lot quicker than i could. >> the bat standards have changed a lot over the years. i'm not sure exactly how many different standards we've had but the current standard of bats at the college and high school game as well as american legion is the besr, in place since 2003. before that, we had a bat that probably did out-perform wood but it's been regulated and changed and a great bat -- >> okay. let me get -- the clock is ticking. i want to get both of you on in this starting with you, steve. don't you think we should take a new look at bats after this tragedy and ruling just to make sure we're -- our kids can be as

safe -- i'm worried about the little ones more so than high school kids but go ahead. >> absolutely, mike, i think we should do that. i think there has to be independent testing not testing funding by frankly either side a bat company or proponents of wood but i think the test will be clear. i don't think there's any doubt there's a difference and i would suggest anybody who's listening to go out and see, go out and look, do your own study, in effect. i'll just give you one example, mike quickly, the richfield, connecticut little league in 2006 switched from aluminum bats to all wood bats. in 106 regular season games they hit five home runs. for the williamsport little league tournament they then switched to look numb numb bats and in five games hit six home runs playing on the same fields, they hit mour home runs in five games than they did in 105 games with wood. obviously, that's proof of what i'm talking about. >> mike, clock's ticking on us. do you think we should take a fresh look after this case to make sure the bats just aren't to dangerous levels and some

pitcher out there is a sitting duck? >> you'll be glad to know, as we speak in the state of rhode island is conducting tests on youth bats followed by another test on larger bats so the baseball industry is analyzing itself but right now no proof out there other than these rare exceptions with the brandon patch case, which was six years ago, there is a higher level of risk of injury with the non-wood bats than the wood bat. >> guys, good discussion. i think at the end of the day we want to make sure baseball is a safe playing field from the time the little guys take the field to the high schoolrs on up. appreciate it, steve and mike. >> he would gree. >> coming up, the dance floor should be a safe place, as well and two california high schools are taking action. enough with the freaking, enough w the bumping and grinding making students and parents sign a contract. you bump and grind, you're gone. what do you think? call in, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news." a couple of california high schools have had it with the dirty dancing. you know what action they are taking making students and parents sign a contract no mere bumping and grinding. here's what we are talking about a look-see a clip from youtube. i think you get the idea there. sex with clothes on, basically. it's so bad the school even has a freak patrol. so, mrs. smith washes the chalk board and mr. jones has freak patrol. that's what's going on here. where the teacher walks around

and warns students of the hyper sexed-up moves. i sa, good if kids are practically having sex on the dance floor we've got to clean it up. james peterson is with us and tom houtz principal of downey high school where of this was going on the starting with you what was going on you had to have parents and students sign a contract. >> well, the dancing got to where it was -- i mean, i don't know how else to say it but basically sim plated sex on the dance floor. >> we just watched some of tharchlts was embarrassing. i mean, i was embarrassed and we just, we had to do something about it. this is a school dance. it's just not appropriate. >> did students complaint? did it parents? i mean, who soundthe alarm or people just say it and said, hey, we've got to do something here? >> a few students did, intimidated, influenced like they almost had to dance like that and i had a few parent complaints call in and say what's going on at the dances

and i talked with my administration, particularly my student body and i told them what we were doing and got the p.t. a on board and said let's make a stand and we did. >> okay. you are getting cheered for that or booed? >> at first, we got booed by the students. they weren't too happy about it but, you know, that's sometimes you're not popular when you make a stand. >> parents in your corner? >> yes, yeah, the vast majority of them are. >> here's some of the rules we're looking at, no touching of breasts, buttocks or gentles or straddling each other's legs, both feet on the floor. we looked at the video. let's bring in james on this. don't we have to take action when the dancing gets to that level of practically sex on the dance floor? >> sure. i -- i'm curious about what's the best action to take. first of all, let me just support the principal and support that community for coming together and doing what they're doing. i think in general i'm a little bit leery of these kinds of proscribed kinds of dance codes

things because i wonder how the students themselves take them. i actually teach students who have come out of the school districts on the west coast that have had some of these dance codes and sometimes this may not be happening in the principal's school but sometimes the students take this as an excuse to kind of laugh at the rules and they don't take it as serious as they should and i wonder what else are we doing as a community, what else is going in our communities in the public's sphere on tv, in the films, in video games and in music that shapes this kind of behavior and i wonder if we might raise awareness about those issues. so, i want to kind of use this as an opportunity to educate students more about sexual behavior. >> you know, so i'm with you on that, james. like you want to get to the heart of the matter. why is a student dancing like this. >> exactly. >> with no shame. right? you know. >> exactly. >> we want to have that conversation. tom, get you back in. you did have that conversation or did you just not enough hours in the day and must to put this rule in place. >> what we did is we -- we

started the rule. at first, we would change the music to stop the music, tell them to stop. kids would boo and all that. and what we finally did is just made the stand and once we made the stand with the contract, it really got the conversation going. >> okay. let's get a call, in george wants in on the conversation from pennsylvania. george, what do you think? >> caller: yes. i think that the parents should have a say in what goes on at school, because due to the fact they pay the school taxes, and this is like, you know, operated by the state and the district, school district. >> do you agree with the move, george, do you think it's good? >> yes, i do think it's good just because of that reason. i think they should have a say. if the students want to do something on their own time it should happen not in school but happen like somewhere else meaning like at home. >> yeah, a different story altogether. and, tom, you mentioned at the top you did consult parents, right. >> oh, absolutely. if you don't get the parents on your side, you're going to lose. >> good point there. james.

>> tom, can i ask a quick question. >> go ahead. >> what kind of sexual education do you have in the school system? is it -- i mean, what else is going on that's more productive as opposed to being reactionary to this particular situation in your system. >> well, we at our high school every ninth grader take as health class which has sex education in it and every student in our school is required to take it. and that's not the case in a lot of high schools where they don't even have health class. >> it's not. it's not you're exactly right. again, i think this is an opportunity -- a teaching opportunity for schools districts, in general, especially with the richmond high school story that came up this week obviously young people need a more wide-ranging sense of sexual education. >> to have a morale comp pass. >> yeah. >> and i think common decency, as well. >> i think not even the sexual part but just how to handle

yourself in front of other people. >> hopefully we can atalk again. coming up, we'll be talking about jon gosselin on a couple of fronts. what do you think of him hooking up with nadya suleman? some kind of a reality all-star duo. think of that 22 kids in the middle of all that. is a show brewing with these two? call in, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back. all right. is it reality tv's next big thing, "in touch weekly" reporting jon gosselin will possibly hook up with nadya suleman. yes, octomom a reality dating

show. he denies you this but admits he sees would believe this because of his recent behavior and turning to a rabbi for help who joins us now. let me read his statement and we'll talk about what's going on here. i know you guys are going to get together on sunday. here's his statement. all right. first off, what do you know about this show? >> first of all, jon can't date anyone right now technically married and it's immoral. i believe even his dating of haley who i have not met is inappropriate at this time.

what jon needs to do to return to his moral center. america fell in love with this family, two parents and the eight children. what you have is a man with a good heart whose life is derailed by fame. it's happened to people before. he said to me when i asked him, what do you want to most be? i want to be most like my father who was a dentist who helped children without money. i said then stop being this narcissist that people believe even the most scurrilous rumors. >> i'm all for the redemption and forgiveness, with him or anybody who's made wrong moves. but doesn't he need to go away for a little bit and, like you said, pray, pray with you, before he's going to a synagogue in some public forum? maybe in six months we want to hear that. your thoughts on that? >> a synagogue is a holy place and not exactly a television studio. there is merit in what you're

saying. here is the problem, jon gosselin is no longer a private citizen. if he re deems himself in a synagogue, that how do people believe that ends in a catastrophic result. we in america have to accept celebrity is destroying far too many lives. when you become famous, it's like winning the lottery. you'll spend the money on yourself or benefit the cause of others. fame is a giant spotlight that shines on you and you'll say, hey, look at me or reflect that light on causes larger than yourself. that's why he has to do this. there's no going pack to his private life right now. what he can do is utilize fame for a noble calling. >> good talking to you again. i would say i think there is still a redemptive story after he has that time to get himself together. maybe this will work. more on this topic coming up. take care.

this hour, a community on high alert, reeling from the murder of an innocent 7-year-old. somer thompson kidnapped walking home from school, killed and thrown in the trash. heinous. people are warning people to be on the lookout for shady, change in behavior. maybe a neighbor. is there a killer living among these people. plus, schools cleaning up the dance floor. banning kids from getting down, and let's face it, getting dirty as well. these kids had to sign a contract. their parents signing as well saying no bumping, no grinding, not with the racy outfits. i think it's great. you've got to do something to clean up the dance floor. love hearing from you, as

always, call in, the number 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews. or text us at hlntv. just start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com e this is hour number two of "prime news." i'm mike galanos. we're still trying to find answers. this just in to us as we talk about the gang rape in california. short time ago, four suspects in this brutal gang rape of a high school student appeared in court. and only one pleaded not guilty. police in california say a 15-year-old girl was sexually assaulted in a dark back alley outside of a school homecoming dance. raped and beaten for two and a half hours. no one did anything to help. we want to know, how could this happen? students and teachers say it's a lack of security. larry king told this theory on this. >> there's an epidemic in our

urban communities and amongst our young people and in schools of emotional dysfunction, emotional retardation, lack of emotional development, violence, and this is a rampant epidemic actually. and it goes back to emotional retardation as a child. these people who are perpetrators of these crimes, they think this is normal. because they have grown up in violent environments. frequently they have been emotionally abused themselves. >> quite a statement there. what do you think, call in, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, we welcome back prosecutor robin sax. henry lee with the "san francisco chronicle." also joining us, aquia jackson with programs for youth together. your take on what deepak choppractice had to say. living and growing up in a

violent community, where, and what got me is when you get the feeling that he's saying that this is normal. your thoughts on that? >> you know, when we speak with our students about what happened over the weekend and also what happens just in their lives, growing up in richmond or oakland or any sort of urban city area, you do get the sense that these kinds of crimes and these kinds of situations happen often. i'm not so sure about, you know, saying that the children are emotional re retarded, or dysfunctional. there's one thing to grow up in an environment where the conditions permit these kinds of things to be normalized. and there's another thing to say that the children are sick. is it the children that are sick or society, the community that needs to come together and heal as a community. >> what are you seeing here? on so many levels, obviously it's so disturbing, the attack, two, two and a half hours, so many attackers, up to 12.

24 bystanders doing nothing. how do we get to a place like this? kids brutalizing kids. >> yeah. i think that, you know, we had a press conference yesterday, and one of the things that we really wanted to highlight, coming from our students, the students we work with, students who know the people who are involved in this situation, is that really, this situation is -- has a little bit to do with everyone. it's kind of everyone's responsibility. as a community organizations, what are we doing, what can we do more of. students, you know, how can you sort of be aware of yourself and be aware of what's right and wrong and how to make the right decisions. you know how not to succumb to peer pressure. the school itself, the school administrator administrators, community organizations, we all kind of have a responsibility to bear. parents, all of us do. >> let's bring in henry lee. as you've covered this, and you've gauged reaction, does it get people just as much the fact that so many watched and did nothing? >> it does. there's a sense of outrage.

how is it possible that so many people, up to two dozen, mike, could have done nothing. not reported it to police. it was only through a well-meaning person who heard it secondhand from two people that the police were called. there's a sense of concern. why was this allowed to happen in this area? >> let's bring in robin sax, prosecutor, who has dealt with sex crimes like this. robin, let's hit it again. when we've had this call from our viewers numerous times already, what can be done? can a bystander be prosecuted for watching this and doing nothing? >> a bystander can be prosecuted, especially in a case like this, where it's not just a few minutes, and failing to act. this is a potential aiding and abetting or co-conspiracy or conspiracy after the fact depending on the theory the prosecutors want to look at. did the behavior that the group surrounding contribute to the continued abuse of this child. >> robin, would you need to

prove that someone, say, shielded the victim, went that far as to conceal this crime? or is it not that specific? >> it's not that specific when it comes to whether or not the conduct of the people who were watching actually aggravated the circumstances. made the crime then continue, or a crime may have stopped, but for the involvement of the people surrounding then encouraging and incited it to last longer than it should have, that's where the culpability is. >> donna in maryland, your thoughts here? donna? donna in maryland? we lost donna. go ahead and call back, 1-877-tell-hln. let's go back to henry lee. five arrests at this point. are more to come? sounds like up to 12 attackers, i'm sure we're expecting more arrests. >> more arrests are expected. four of the five arrested suspects were in court today. of those four, three are juvenile and all charged as

adults. they are charged with enhancements that could result in life in prison if convicted. the juveniles were in court today wearing bulletproof vests because of the notoriety of the case. >> we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, we're going to hear from students who were at the dance. what were their feelings? did they feel safe? do they feel there should have been more security? and then we'll take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln.

at the dance, there were four officers. none of them patrolling the area. i looked outside of the gym and i saw 12 to 15 guys sitting there with no i.d.s. the officers, not only did they

not check the i.d.s of those students or men sitting outside of our campus, but the security officers who are employed here did no job checking either. the assistant principal looked outside and actually saw those men and did nothing about it. >> kami baker, an acquaintance of the victim. we had a chance to talk to her last hour. we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. let's bring in henry lee. henry, is the school making any comment about security or lack thereof? again, that's quite an indicting statement from that student. >> mike, the district has said that the dance itself was safe. now, clearly what was happening outside was anything but. now, it's kind of a darn if you do, darn if you don't situation. this attack, rape happened in a secluded part outside the dance, in a different part of campus. obviously there wouldn't be pointing fingers if there had been a fight or assault or god forbid a murder at the dance. then we would be asking why were

your officers patrolling the periphery and not the dance itself. two supervisors were sent home around 9:00 p.m. half an hour before this incident began. one had a prior commitment. the other one did not have overtime authorization and the police said they could handle the security. >> let's bring in robin sax on this again. we listened to kami baker last hour. you've seen culpability on the school or not? >> i absolutely do see culpability on the part of the school. parents entrust the schools to take care of their kids, both within the campus, surrounding the campus and near the campus, on field trips or outside the school or wherever else. while there may not be a direct responsibility in terms of, you know, were they going to be able to prevent the actual incident, there certainly was enough to cause a group of people outside and other students to be talking about it from within that should have raised some flags and asked for i.d.s as the people suggested.

>> let's get a call in. sean is with us in georgia. sean, your thoughts? >> caller: i was just wondering, i went to the west high school here in macon, georgia. we had enough security we were able to control the dance inside or a football game. and it was -- i don't understand how they don't have enough security, or video cameras to catch this going on. >> good point there. about the video cameras. henry, that's a heartbreaking element to this. aren't the cameras in place, or they're going to be used, but not until january, right? >> there's an existing security camera system that is defunct, mike. now there are plans to kind of -- before this incident to replace the security system. now everybody's clamoring to get a move on to get the new system in place. >> robin, we go back to patrolling a dance. you have to patrol outside. because let's face it, that's where kids get into trouble. where they might try to sneak a drink or that kind of thing. that's what you have to patrol outside the dance setting.

>> protect the kids from the own harm they do to themselves. in schools, security and security cameras are looked down upon by the parents because they don't want to create the feeling of fear in kids. but i think we need to stop worrying about creating fear and let's have some of these preventive measures in place. >> let's go back to akua jackson. in talking to this student, listening to others, there could be a fear now. how do you reassure, especially some of these young ladies, about going back to that school after something like this? >> well, you know, the unfortunate truth is this is a horrific incident that occurred to the student on saturday. and it's also not the first time that this has happened. our young students are dealing with this on a daily basis. so it's not like now all of a sudden there's going to be fear and people are afraid. the students go to school, they wake up every morning and they go regardless. >> wow. thanks again, you giflgs. we appreciate it. coming up, the latest on little somer thompson. who killed this innocent 7-year-old? could it be someone in that tight-night community?

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. there's a monster roaming free and police are now turning to the public to find somer thompson's killer. they've released a profile of a possible suspect, things to watch for here. is it someone within that tight-knit community? family and neighbors, they are outraged. who could murder an innocent 7-year-old, dump her body in a

landfall like a piece of trash. taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us, criminal profiler, brent turfy. also with us, natisha lance, producer from the "nancy grace" show. anything new in the search for somer's killer? >> just like you said, mike, investigators are now looking to the public to help them find the person who is responsible for somer thompson's death. some of the things they are saying, that people in the public should look out for are unexplained injuries or cuts or bruises on a person, increased nervousness or irritability. what they're saying is that there are people out there who they believe have information pertaining to this investigation, and they might not even know it. it could be something very simple and very small. they could know this person who is responsible for this. and they want to hear from as many people as possible. now, they have said that they've had an increase in calls that have come in since they released this behavioral profile recently, but they still do not have the final piece of the puzzle that will solve this case. >> brent, criminal profiler. you hear this?

is it that simple? someone's change in behavior, change of appearance, a bruise, a cut? could it be that simple? >> it really isn't. this profile, as she's calling it, as they're calling it, that's been released is very similar to those released before in many cases throughout the years. in fact, this particular profile has its origins back in the 1980s. it's the kind of standard stock response that you give when you really don't know what happened. i think that's a fair comment here. we have a lot of investigating that still needs to be done. we need to know, was she put in a dumpster transported to the landfall or taken to the landfall. we need to know, has the victim's house, has that been treated as a crime scene? they're collecting evidence from there to compare back. what are the other steps that are being taken. at the break, there was a mention of, it may be someone she might know. that's really important. making the timeline of the last known activities, doing that friends and family list, running through those names. trying to eliminate as many people close to home as possible. so that we can focus on a

parallel investigation of a possible stranger. because those are less common. >> from what we've seen, are you seeing serial killer who's done this before? >> no, i'm not seeing that at all. which is kind of amazing that we're hearing that from people in the media. i'm not seeing a lot of skill or competence. what i'm seeing is a very immature, tv-like behavior of putting the body in the garbage. in fact, if you're a competent, skilled serial offender, where you'll dispose the body is as far away from the discovery as possible. putting a body in a landfall, that's a lot of rifblg. again, we don't know if it was put in a dumpster and taken there but put in the landfall itself. but you're taking the risk that the body will be identified, that you'll be seen. there's obviously a chance of being seen by witnesses along the route. the chance of being videotaped, because dumpsters tend to be associated with businesses. there's a lot of risk there. somebody who's skilled and proficient who has done this before wouldn't necessarily want to take those risks. >> interesting. natisha, brent's talking a lot

about the landfall. are they still going through the garbage? i hate to even talk about it. this is where little somer was found. >> there are items that they have found at that landfall that they have taken to the crime lab in jacksonville. and they have moved this to the top of their list. he was talking about whether or not she was taken to the landfall or was she transported there. what we do know is that she was in one of those trucks, one of the nine trucks that had 25 tons of garbage in each one of them. they have narrowed it down to the truck she was in and eventually dumped at the landfall. so she wasn't placed at the landfall, she was transported there. >> we have a call from paula in massachusetts. hi, paula, your comment or question here? >> caller: hi, mike. i was wondering, two days ago there was a report of an armed robbery at the child's home, the day that her body was found. i haven't heard any more about that. could you tell me anything about it? >> natisha, have you heard that report? >> there were reports of that. we did ask the public information officer about that,

and they said that it was an actual computer error. because someone had had this address on their mind so much, they put it in the wrong address. >> let's hit on one other thing before we go. the vacant house, where authorities, we assume were gathering evidence. are they still looking over that home? >> that home has been cleared at this point. there was evidence that was collected there, as well as the park that was across the street from there. and that park, mike, i think we've talked about it before, there is a bathroom that is connected to that park. there's a men's room, women's room. they also collected evidence from that men's room. so once again, it's still being -- it's still at the jacksonville crime lab. >> got you. guys, thanks again. natisha, brent, appreciate it. coming up, the maker of baseball bats failed to warn about the dangers of their aluminum bats. basically holding them responsible for the death of an 18-year-old. call in, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. coming up, freak dancing. to the point where two schools in california are making parents and students sign contracts, so no more bumping and grinding. no more simulated sex on the dance floor. good. hey, you've got to do something to clean things up. what do you think? is this the right action? have they gone too far? call in on this, 1-877-tell-hln. we want to hear from you on this topic, as we talk about louisville slugger, held responsible in the death of an 18-year-old, brandon patch. happened in 2003. because basically they did not give proper warning that the bats could be dangerous. let's read the statement from the makers of louisville

slugger. we need to get it out there. this was an emotional case. and we believe the jury responded to that. and issued an emotional verdict. our company did nothing wrong. we made a bat in accordance with the rules. that bat was approved for play by baseball's governing organizations. in fact, the jury found in our favor the bat was not defective. however, the verdict that our company failed to adequately warn of the dangers of the bat leaves us puzzled. it seems contradictory for the jury to say our bat is not defective but our company didn't warn of its dangers. everybody understands there are risks inherent in baseball and the object is to use a bat with wood or aluminum to hit the ball hard. unfortunately this verdict seems to be the statement on the society we live in today that everything has to have a warning label. we sympathize with the patch family over their loss since we have -- since we first learned of this accident. we still believe this was an accident on a baseball field.

perhaps this will give the patch family some closure. there's the statement there. they were puzzled there. let's get the reaction. steve is with us, attorney, sports writer, well versed in the study of aluminum bats. steve, basically he's an advocate of wood bats. mike mays is with us as well from the don't take my bats away from us coalition. steve, were you surprised that the ruling went in the family's favor? >> i'm not surprised, mike. it's good to be with you. i understand that louisville slugger said that this was an indictment of baseball. in fact, i think it's an indictment of the aluminum baseball bat. we've discussed this over the years. in fact, i've discussed it with mike may at times. we any the whole aluminum bat controversy could be ended and the dangers could be ended by putting the game back to wooden bats, which is where it's been for 100 years before aluminum bats. >> mike, i'll let you respond. i take it you guys are familiar with each other? >> yes. i respect his position.

i have great sympathy for the entire patch family, the entire baseball community. it's a loss that no one should suffer. it's an accident that we hope will never be repeated again. the non-wood bat has been around since the early 1970s. hopefully it will be a tradition for years to come. the bat was, again, was made to specs that were created by the associations that govern the game, by people who work every single day for the game of baseball. that worked for the best interests of the athlete. they would not approve a bat that would in any way pose a danger to the athlete. >> let me ask you this, bob. the bat that i used in the '70s, the aluminum foil people, reynolds, made the bats back then. the bats of today, that ball's popping off a lot harder than it was then, right? we can agree on that? >> no, that's not true. >> you think the reynolds bat i

used, that ball's trampolining off, is the same as now? >> today's battle performs to a lower standard than the bat of the early years. bat standards have changed. bat standards have tightened. in 2002, the cpsc looked at old bat standards and said the bats are okay. but they created the standard and that was in 2003. and that's the bat that was used unfortunately in the brandon patch game. especially safe since the standards have been in place. >> steve, you agree with that assessment? >> i don't agree with it at all, mike. you were talking about when you played, mike. you know that aluminum bat at that time was a heavier, not made for people to rip the bat through the zone, to have more bat speed. you know how it is. i would suggest that anyone go out and look at these bats, play with these bats, pitch to kids with wood and aluminum, you will see the difference immediately. >> okay.

to that point, mike, i've got to challenge you. when i played, going back to the stone ages, but anyway, it was not a 30-inch with a 20-ounce difference. i had a 30-inch bat and that was it. that bat my kids use now, i can whip that through the zone. they can whip it through the zone a lot quicker than i could. >> bat standards have changed a lot over the years. i'm not sure exactly how many different standards we've had. but the current standard of bats, the college and high school game, as well as american ledge is the ratio. that's been in place since 2003. before that, we had a bat that probably did outperform wood. but it's been regulated. it's changed. and it's a great bat. >> let me get -- the clock's ticking. i'll start with you, steve. don't you think we should look at -- take a new look at bats after this tragedy and this ruling? just to make sure we're -- our kids can be safe? i'm really worried about the

little ones more so than the high school kids. >> absolutely, mike. i think there has to be independent testing, not testing funded by, frankly, by either side, by a bat company or by a proponent of wood. but i think the test will be clear. i don't think there's any doubt that there's a difference. i would suggest anybody who's listening, to go out and see. to go out and look and to do your own study in effect. i'll just give you one example quickly. the richardfield connecticut little league in 2006 switched from aluminum bats to all-wood bats, in 106 regular season games they hit five home runs. the little league tournament they then switched to aluminum bats, and in five games they hit six home runs playing on the same fields. they hit more home runs in five games than they did in 105 games with wood. obviously that's proof of what i'm talking about. >> mike, clock's ticking on us. do you think we should take a fresh look after this case to make sure the bats just aren't to dangerous levels and some poor pitcher out there is a

sitting duck? >> as we speak in the state of rhode island, they're conducting tests on youth bats and it will be followed up by another test on larger bats. the baseball industry is analyzing itself. right now there's no proof out there, other than these rare exceptions, with the brandon patch case, six years ago, that there's a difference between the wood bats and non-wood bats. >> we want to make sure baseball is a safe playing field. appreciate it. steve, mike, thanks again. coming up, the dance floor should be a safe place as well. two california high schools are taking action. enough with the freaking, enough with the bumping and grinding. they're making students and parents sign a contract. you bump and grind, you're gone. what do you think? call in, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back. a couple of california high schools have had it with the dirty dancing. you know what action they're taking? they're making the parents and students sign a contract. we'll give you a glimpse here. a clip from youtube. there it is. okay. you get the picture of what's going on. imagine that, your kid's going to a homecoming dance and that's what's going on on the dance floor. so bad at one school they have to have a freak patrol. the teacher walks around warning students, hey, tone it down. cool it with the hyper-sex

moves. i think it's good. if kids are practically having sex on the dance floor, you have to clean it up. earlier i had a chance to talk to the professor at bucknell university, and principal of downy high school. tom, i'll start with you. what was going on that you had to have parents and students sign a contract? >> well, the dancing got to where it was -- i mean, i don't know how else to say it, but it's simulated sex on the dance floor. >> we just watched some of that. >> it was embarrassing. i was embarrassed. we had to do something about it. it's a school dance. it's just not appropriate. >> did students complain? did parents -- i mean, who sounded the alarm? or people just see it and say, hey, we've got to do something here? >> a few students felt intimidated and influenced almost like they had to dance like that. i had a few parent complaints calling in, saying what's going on at the dances. i talked with my administration, particularly my student body, and i asked them, told them what

we were doing. i got the pta onboard and said, let's make a stand, and we did. >> you getting cheered for that or booed? >> at first we got booed by the students. they weren't too happy about it. but, you know, that's -- sometimes you're not popular when you make a stand. >> parents in your corner? >> yes. yeah, the vast majority of them are. >> here's some of the rules we're looking at. no touching of breasts, buttocks or genitals. no straddling each other's legs. both feet on the floor. that's what's going on. we looked at the video. let's bring in james peterson on this. the don't we have to take action like this when the dancing gets to that level of practically sex on the dance floor? >> sure. i'm curious what's the best action to take. first of all, let me just support the principal and support that community for coming together and doing what they're doing. i think in general i'm a little bit leery of these kind of prescribed dance code things, because i wonder how the students themselves take it. i actually teach students in

college, and who have come out of the school districts on the west coast that have had some of these dance codes. this may not be happening in the principal's school, but sometimes the students take this as an excuse to kind of laugh at the rules, and they don't take it as seriously as they should. i also wonder what else are we doing as a community, what else is going on in our community in the public sphere on tv, in the films, in video games, and in music that shapes this kind of behavior. i wonder if we might raise awareness about those issues. i want to kind of use this as an opportunity to educate students more about sexual behavior. >> you know, i'm with you on that, james. it's like you want to get to the heart of the matter. why is the student dancing like this. with no shame, right? we want to have that conversation. tom, did you -- let's get you back in. did you have that conversation? or did you -- not enough hours in the day and you just had to put this rule in place? >> what we did is we started the rule. at first we would change the music to stop the music, tell them to stop, kids were doing

all that. what we finally did is just made the stand. and once we made the stand with the contract, it really got the conversation going. >> okay. let's get a call in. georgia wants in on the conversation from pennsylvania. george, what do you think? >> caller: yes. i think that the parents should have a say in what goes on at school, because due to the fact they pay the school taxes. and this is like, you know, operated by the state and the school district. >> do you agree with the move, george? do you think it's good? >> caller: yes, i do think it's good. just because of that reason. i think they should have a say. now, if the students want to do something on their own time, it should not happen in school, it should happen somewhere else. like meaning at home -- >> different story all together. tom, you mentioned at the top, you did consult parents, right? >> oh, absolutely, yeah. if you don't get the parents on your side, you're going to lose. >> good point there. >> can i ask you a quick question? >> go ahead, james. >> what kind of sexual education do you have in the school

system? what else is going on that's more productive as opposed to being reactionary to this particular situation in your system? >> well, at our high school, every 9th grader takes a health class which has sex education in it. and every student in our school is required to take it. and that's not the case in a lot of high schools where they don't even have health class. >> it's not. it's not. you're exactly right. again, i think this is an opportunity, a teaching opportunity for school systems in general, especially with the richmond high school story that came up earlier this week. obviously young people need a more wide ranging sense about sexual education. >> yeah. and just to have a moral compass. and -- >> yeah. >> and common decency as well. >> i think it's not even just the sexual part, i think it's just the character education. just how to handle yourself in front of other people. >> guys, more calls lined up. the clock's run out on us.

good to have you here. >> thank you very much. thanks, guys. andre agassi, what a story. but in a new tell-all book, this shocker. he used crystal meth, not once, but dozens of times.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. a stunning revelation from andrea ga si, coming clean about his use of crystal meth. in his tell-all book. joining us to talk about it, senior editor tennis magazine. also with us, my colleague jane velez-mitchell, host of "issues" with jane velez-mitchell coming your way at the top of the hour. jane, i'm going to read the quotes he finally gave in and tried crystal meth. he was with a friend, i believe

by the name of slim. we get excerpts from the book. there's a molt of regret followed by vast sadness, then comes a tide al wave of euphoria that sweeps away every negative thought in my head. i never felt so alive, hopeful and never felt such energy. my name, my career, everything is now on the line, whatever i've achieved, whatever i've worked for might soon mean nothing. that's emotions as he tries this. what's your read on this, jane? >> frankly, nothing shocks me these days, but this actually shocked me. i went to the u.s. open recently and i was just in awe of the athletes there. their hair-trigger reactions. how can you do all this, how can you be a sports champ while you're using crystal meth. i don't get it. and according to some of the articles, he didn't use it just once, he used it numerous times. and this is one of the most highly addictive substances out there. i've heard from drug counselors, crystal meth is highly, highly addictive. so to me, it really is a mystery

how he could perform. now, he did say it gave him a lot of energy. so initially it gave him a lot of energy to perform very well. but obviously it's a drug that leaves drug that leaves people a wreck, psychological and physical wreck. >> tom, what's staurnding? he used this during his time at rock bottom? i mean, he wasn't using crystal meth from what we gather as he began to rise again through the tennis ranks, right? >> no, that's right. he wouldn't be able to perform. spring and summer of 1997. he was nursing injuries that year and played very few tournaments and the worst year of his career and hardly -- even the matches he did play, he didn't win very many. >> jane, that makes sense. crystal meth and the time he tried ask used it was part of his rock bottom. >> didn't he go on to in 1999 complete a career grand slam at the french open? >> but he was supposedly off of it at that time, right, tom?

>> that's my understanding. >> but here's what i don't understand. explain this to me. he talked about how the tennis association informed him he had failed a drug test. now, why would they be testing him if he wasn't playing? in other words, isn't that what they do when you are playing? if you are not playing you they are not testing you. >> he was playing in 1997, is that when -- >> he played but very rarely. you get test ad lot. he would have been tested even if he just played in a few tournaments. >> i have to ask you before we let you go. i mean, how much -- what strength did he have to have if he used crystal meth dozens of times and was able to kick it like that and turn his career around? >> i don't understand the story. i don't know that we have the whole story. this is a book. and what his story is as he chooses to tell it. i'm glad he is telling it because it shows you the depth of drug addiction and number of people that had it. >> we will be watching.

tonight the war on women hits our high schools. stomach churning developments in the brutally gang rape outside after homecoming dance. five teens arrested. this is just the beginning. as many as ten people were involved in the rape and ten more watched and did nothing. where was security? this happen order school grounds during a school event. the rape lasted 2 1/2 hours. this is an outrage. we need to wake up and say enough is enough. seismic developments in a case of a drunk driving mom accused of boozing it up and getting behind the wheel with seven young girls packed in the car. one of the girls is dead. the d.a. is troeg the book at this woman. it is about time we have harsher penalties for parents that put children in danger. toxic secrets after tennis

superstar. andre agassi admits to using crystal meth at the peak of his tennis career. agassi's alleged and role model for kids and how did he manage to keep this toxic secret and still perform? is he the only one? are drugs a problem in professional sports? reality tv turns completely surreal. is jon gosselin teaming up with the otco mom. the two agreed to date and broadcast their relationship on reality tv. so if you are doing the math at home, jon plus octo mom equals 22 kids. do these two care they have become the laughingstock or all about the money? "issues starts now. growing outrage tonight over a crime that's horrified the nation. four teenagers accused in a sadistic gang rape hauled into court wearing bulletproof vests foyer their own saferty because people are so angry about this. a 15-year-old girl raped and

beaten for 2 1/2 hours on high school grounds. in a moment we will talk to her friend who says that they both felt extremely unsafe at school. on saturday night the victim walked out of a homecoming dance, of all things, all dressed up and hair done. she was waiting for her dad to pick up and was lured to a dark courtyard and attacked. police discovered her hours later. >> as the officers made contact with the victim and found she was unconscious and was stripped naked. what we do know is that multiple suspects physically beat her and robbed her and sexually assaulted her. and only a few hours ago was she released from the hospital. >> five males, ages 15 to 21, in custody tonight. four of them charged as adults. the fifth has not been charged yet. the prosecutor is pursuing life sentences for all of them. would that be justice? we will debate it. then there's the crowd students who watched the rape and snapped pictures on their cell phone.

is this case proof that all the sexually charged violence on tv and movies and in video games is numbing teenaged males to violence? everybody involved in this according to cops. the hideous attack happen order school property under the noses of teachers, chaperone, police officers. how much does this school care about safety? why weren't there security cameras in place to stop and stop this right away? >> we were laughed at last summer for asking for 13 security guards. we were laughed at when we said we needed $80,000 worth of cameras. i went to the middle school myself to look at their camera systems to make sure those would be the best quality for richmond high. our school approved them. we never got them. >> maybe we should put the students, these girls who were

speaking in charge of this school. because this innocent 15 year owed girl was expose said early to what we here call the war on women. this is a national crisis and now it is spreading to our schools. what do you think? why did this happen? how can we stop it from happening again? call me and let me know. now let me welcome my fantastic panel, criminal defense attor y attorney. supervisor of sex crimes unit. brian russell. steve rogers, detective lieutenant with the nutleyjers police department. and joining me on the phone, candy baker, a friend of this young victim. cammy, thank you for joining us. i know that this has to be very, very difficult for you and i applaud your courage in speaking out and coming forth. you were at the dance that night. set the stage for us. did you feel afraid during the

dance or as you left that night? cammy -- you have to turn your tv down, honey or else we can't hear you. you are going to have some feedback. >> i don't have the tv on right now. >> all right. we have a little bit of a problem there. let me ask -- let me ask stacy while we try to iron out the audio problem. stacy, what's going on here? what is going on with this crime? i understand that, you know, there are approximately 30 males involved. you can count the ten that allegedly participated, some of whom have been arrested, allegedly. you count the 20 more who observed in some way, shape or form. you have 30 young males

participating in this horrific unthinkable obscene act. >> they didn't think it was obscene and unspeakable act. it was a sport to them. violent disgusting display of what goes on every single day i hate to say. you have all these people that stood there and watched and there's no good samaritan law saying somebody has to make a phone call but i'm going to tell you something. there are so many factors you mentioned at the top of the show. you talked about being desensitized to what goes on in television, movies. another big factor i believe is a lot of juveniles are given a slap on the wrist and let out the door. so when people -- when young men engage and act like this, they don't believe or don't realize what the consequences are going to be. i applaud this prosecutor for filing directly as adults and i am so happy that they are speaking to put these guys away for life because you are going to hear people say that they are only 15, 16 and that's what happens. we give them a break and when you give them a break, they

never believe that they could get in trouble. this is what we are witnessing now all over the country. >> absolutely. s the not good for them or the victims because now we are going to come down on them and lock them up for life. if we would have come down on them hard the first time they got in trouble and guarantee you stacy is right, they have all been in trouble before, they might have at least been unavailable do this and been available maybe -- >> how about instead of just cracking down, how about if we teach compassion? how about if we teach nonviolence? >> teach morals. >> how about if we teach -- >> right and wrong. >> how about if we teach right and wrong? hold on. darren. >> if i can, thank you. this is a bandwagon of jumping on a long time. because we constantly complain about recidivist criminal behavior. we don't do things to attack and address the underlying flaws in belief systems and that cause people to commit horrific crimes

in the first place. i agree and with you and i applaud you wholeheartedly. this is something that needs to be addressed on a fundamental level. >> jane, i just wrote a column last week. >> hold it. who said column? >> brian russell. i just wrote a column last week called cultural chaos compounding crime. i think part of this is specific to women, cultural factors we are talking about. part of it is just general cultural decay. there's no emphasis on right and wrong and a lot of kids households growing up, there is a huge emphasis on the self and life is about getting what you want by the fastest means possible. even if you have to take it, there's a desensitizing effect of media on -- dehumanizing effect where people don't think of others as human beings and electronic media plays into that because if all you see are screen names and smiling profiles -- >> forget about smiley profile pictures, all you see is -- >> jane -- >> all you see is rape. i challenge anyone to take their remote, if they have a lot of

cable channels, start clicking, clicking, clicking, see how long it takes you to come upon an act of violence by a man against a woman. this is literally pavlov's dogs. we are associating masculinity with violence and associating sexuality with sadistic violence. >> jane, there -- >> don't tell hollywood that. >> jane, there is another issue here we have to look at. that is the underreporting or failure to report inappropriate behavior, sexual assault bus school districts across the country, the concerns about their image. police officers see this constantly. at a young age women, young girls, are being inappropriately touched and et cetera, et cetera, they are not being reported. they have to be reported and young women have to know that they -- >> we also need to talk about this whole no snitching mentality. all these people watch, the only

reason it was reported to cops is that two of them were talking about it later. some third party overheard and called cops. you may remember the news story, 50-year-old michael brewer, snitch order another teen, trying to steal his dad's bike a few weeks ago. a group of boys cornered him and doused him in rubbing alcohol and set him on fire. i spoke to michael's mom days after this hideous attack. >> i won't leave his side unless a dock has to talk to me or change michael's bandages which takes anywhere from 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours. because he has so many burns. they have to heavily sedate him so he does not feel any of the pain. >> judge karen, hideous violence by kids. it is all based on this don't snitch at all costs. where do they get that? >> i don't know where they get it from. but when you talk about surfing down the channel and seeing violence against women, you surf down the channel and you see how much women are objectified.

look at music videos and you see girls half naked and doing everything and anything to get a man's attention. >> let's not blame the girls. okay. >> i'm not blaming the girls. i'm blaming what the boys -- about the girls. >> culturally what we have done is eliminated the elevated status women used to have. it used to be that the people my watch violence against a man and might be somewhat upset but if they saw violence against a woman they would be very upset. we eliminated that double standard. >> we are numb to it. >> we should not. it makes sense to have an elevated status of women in that regard. >> hang on. >> if you think about it, logically. >> i agree with you there, obviously. it is not fun yes. it is a sad, sad, sad, sad story. more on this horrific gang rape in a moment. we are also taking your calls on this.

1-877-58 the latest on the crash that killed an innocent little girl. first, cops say that 20 males watched a teenage girl get brutallily raped. they did nothing to stop it. to make things worse the punks may not even be charged, the ones that watched. >> arrest and prosecute any people that just watched. i think that that's one of the most disturbing aspects of this case. in california, national law the victim of the crime, has to be 14 or under, and in this case, our victim is 15.

officers then discover ed a 15-year-old female lying beneath one of the benches. we found her lying there and she was unconscious. >> a 15-year-old girl unconscious and maked from the waist down. that's how police found her saturday night after she was gang raped in front of a crowd of witnesses. the attack went on for 2 1/2 hours. none of them did anything to stop it. causing national outrage. phone lines lighting up. helen, maryland, your question or thought, ma'am? helen? >> caller: yes. >> your question or thought, ma'am? >> caller: okay. my thing is that all this stuff that's going on -- >> guess what. no more phone calls tonight. all right. i want to ask stacy, i'm so sorry, ma'am, we lost threw. i apologize but we are having problems with our phone lines. i want to ask you about security.

and the lack thereof at the school. the school planned to get a surveillance system in january. my question is why didn't they already have one? you heard the kids were asking for one. this horrible attack went on for 2 1/2 hours. if they had video cameras it could have been spotted and stopped in seconds. beyond that it was steps away from a crowded homecoming dance. what were teachers, chaperones and police doing? >> i mean, i -- >> we had four uniformed police officers and a number of teachers and administrators that were inside and outside. we didn't do a perimeter walk of the school. this is on the far side of the school at the perimeter. >> stacy, if they had had security cameras the kids had been clamoring for, they could have spotted this within the first couple of seconds and stopped it before it became this obscene horror story. why is it that we are going to invest millions now in prosecuting these kids but not invest a couple of hundred thousand bucks in getting great

security systems at a school that desperately needs them? >> look, that's the question that everyone wants to know. that's the question every school will be asking when they say our budget has been cut. the first thing we need to do is decide what's the most important, do we cut out classes and books or do we not get security systems? this will be one hell of a lawsuit. i can tell you this much if the parents decide to go that route because there was no security and because they were on notice there should have been. these girls petitioned and poll particulared and lobbied to have it and it was not there. these questions are the questions that will be asked. >> stacy is exactly right. the question you are asking now is the exact same question that plaintiffs' attorneys are going to be asking of those jurors when they go and spank this school in superior court. and, frankly, it is outrageous. you know, the -- to hear an official say we didn't do a perfect i am they walk, that's exact there place that you should be going. >> steve rogers, you are the -- you are the cop hereensly.

90% of the crimes we covered here on "issues" could be prevented if there was a camera rolling at the time. all these kids and these women who were abducted never seen again and if there is a camera in place, whether it is a stadium, whether it is a street, intersection, whether it is a freeway, these people are going to be caught instantaneously. isn't it time in america to put cameras everywhere? wouldn't that be cheaper to have cameras at every school every parking lot, good security cameras, rather than spending millions and millions of dollars searching for women who are never seen again? trying to find out who raped this beautiful child? >> jane, you are going to spend millions and millions of dollars in-law suits. i have to tell you, you are absolutely right. those cameras should have been up there. i will tell you what i'm curious about. i'm sure that there were more than 200 to 400 students at this dance. this gentleman says they had maybe eight chaperones there.

there a s a real problem in establishing real security at that school, homecoming evening. >> you know, it is out of control. i have a final question. is it possible, judge karen, that this young woman was unconscious for all of this? apparently she had something to drink and collapsed and that's when she was attacked. precious comfort. let's hope a couple of seconds that she was just not awake and was unconscious during this? >> let's hope she wasn't because apparently she had a large amount of alcohol in her system. i'm listening to us talk about more cameras and -- it is all about security. are we going to just building a fortress around ourselves in this country? there's something wrong when 24 people have no sense of decency, no sense of urgency, no sense of civic duty to prevent this type of brutally attack. there's something wrong with the country. >> to be clear about it, there is no affirmative -- >> so disturbing. have to leave it there.

no way we can ever come to an end of this conversation. double trouble. jon gosselin and nadya suleman make their way back into the spotlight. could a possible romance be brewing between these two? andre agassi shocker. you won't believe it.

run for cover. we warned you this might happen. a match made in reality tv hell. jon gosselin and nadya suleman. of course, it will all be caught on camera. the famous twosome will get paid $1 million to start a series "jon minus kate plus nadia." that equation equals nothing but crazy. the show will feature jon freaking out that if they got married they would have the 22 kids between the two of them. octomom modelling a bikini for jon, yikes.

octomom's kids calling jon daddy. what about jon's soul mate. remember this interview? >> love her. >> love her. big word. >> huge word. i don't know. it is like when you look at her, i don't know, my heart pounds. i get sweaty. i don't know. i feel like i love her more than i did kate. this is someone that, mine, my soul mate. like people joke about that. but i'm not joking about that. >> that is about haley the girlfriend. haley is dropping her own bombshell now. she tells "the insider" jon is emotionally abusive and throws mantrums. he enlisted r eed a rabbi. >> his life is being derailed by fame and it has happened to people before. >> okay. amy palmer, senior editor for "in touch weekly." help me.

the magazine says there is a show. jon says no way. sort it out. sort out this craziness for us. >> jane, one word. money. jon gosselin needs money. he took himself off of that show. that was his bread and butter because he wanted his kids not to be on tv anymore and he wanted to be in control. well, guess what. jon needs cash. and this is the perfect way to do it. a million dollars is pretty good to be on a show with the octomom. we don't know if it is going to be a continuing series, it could be a special. regardless, a million dollars is a million dollars. we know jon. it is all about the money right now. >> there's something they call that when you date somebody for money. this is about dating. i think there is a word for that but let's not identify it. we won't bring that up. i wonder how kate will feel about this. octomom. nadya often trashed kate. listen to this. >> she has her own obvious

issues, you know, internal issues. she needs to stop harshly making judgments towards me. she doesn't even know me. so. that's human nature. it tends to happen to people that are less educated. don't you have like issues in your life? why are you trying to -- so desperately to go on to life, for attention? >> first she insults kate and now dating her soon-to-be ex? >> what would you expect from the crazy world of these two? this is normal. i think kate isn't surprised by anything at this point. jon really showed his true character when he left and started dating haley glassman about a week later. i mean, one bad decision after the other. i don't think that this would faze kate anymore. i think she's just doing her own thing and really trying to provide for her family. >> oh, boy. i want to thank you, amy. tough assignment. coming up, prosecutors want the maximum time for accused drunk driving mom. she says she is not guilty.

the latest on this horrific case.

seismic developments in the case of the drunk driving mom boozing it up and getting behind the wheel with seven judge girls back to the car. one of the girls is dead. the d.a. is throwing the book at this woman. i say good. it is about time we have harsher penalties for kids that put kids in danger. andre agassi admits to using crystal meth at the peak of his tennis career. agassi is a legend and a role model for kids. how did he keep this a secret and still perform? first, enough is enough. prosecutors are throwing the book at accused drunk driving mom carmen. they want maximum time for the 31-year-old who is accused of

boozing it up and then jamming seven little zbirgirls her stat wagon. her young passengers, she was flying up the highway at break-neck speeds before her car flipped over several times and then smashed right into a tree. three girls were ejected. one of them was killed. listen to what one traumatized survivor told oprah. >> a part where she says raise your hand if you think we are going to crash or raise your hand if you think we are going to go home safe. >> who said that? >> carmen. and then all of a sudden the car starts to shake. and i could tell that everyone was scared. but they just -- raised their hand. >> nobody raised their hand? do you remember what you were thinking at the time? >> i felt scared.

worried. >> pictured in "the new york post" and new york daily use, pleaded not guilty to manslaughter where she is on suicide watch. i don't get it. if she on suicide watch, she has to be feeling remorseful about something. why a not guilty plea? does that make sense to you? meantime, similar scenario. way different and check out this video. from the website x-17 online. it is supposedly shows cops letting a suspected tipsy celebrity, dennis quaid, off the hook. if true, is it another case of a double standard of justice? more on that in just a moment. first, back out to my awesome panel. we are adding in ken sealy, the famous interventionist. help us make sense of this woman that's accused of this. she's supposedly on suicide watch because she feels so horrible about the fact this child died and the others were injured.

yet, pleading not guilty. how does that work sth. >> you know, jane, i'm with you on this one. i think that she needs to serve some -- serious amount of time for this. and be prosecuted. it is not acceptable. i'm sure mothers against drunk drivers and yourself and myself, we all feel the same way. these people need to be held accountable. they know what they are doing is wrong. but they continue to do it. >> doctor, you are the addiction specialist. how is it that a woman feels so bad about what happened, she was behind the wheel, she was, according to cops, drunk, there was a crash and a child is dead. others are injured. and yet, she pleads not guilty. if she is on suicide watch and feels that bad, why is she pleading not guilty? >> it makes no sense whatsoever outside of the fact she's not -- she is now sober. when she is drunk she is possessed. her brain is not working the way it is supposed to work. she has an altered sense. now she sobered up and realizes

what she did and realizes the consequences of her actions but is not able to go the extra step and admit to herself what she did. i think personally she's still in denial. unless it is her legal team saying this. in den bile what she did. >> absolutely. now, 11-year-old kayla's appearance on oprah tuesday was a heartbreaker. listen to what else this brave child had to say about that horrible ride. >> one of the girls told me that she was fooling around, like going side to side and the last one that she went go -- stop it, i guess she went to go pull the brake and then when we started flipping over, i guess. >> do you remember the flipping over? no, don't remember it. >> so this is just so upsetting to me that this little girl survived and yet, she is going to be traumatized, stacy. there is survivors guilt and memories that are going to come

flooding back as she ages. what is she in store for as a survivor, do you think? >> we do know that children are a lot more resilient than adults are. the other fact of the matter is thank god that she is able to recall the events because when this woman is prosecuted, if she chooses not to admit her guilt and forces this to a trial, you are going to need her to come in and testify as to what was going on. her demeanor and what she was saying. everything she said to oprah. what she's going through, certainly she will go into therapy, i'm sure, for dashgs you know, some respect. i-want to get back to what you were say being this woman pleading not guilty. certainly like you said, it is her legal team. that's what it is. her feeling of remorse could be there. it is also a feeling of oh, my god, i'm going to prison for a long time. i think i want to kill myself. i'm sure that it is the lawyer saying we are facing a manslaughter charge. you will not plead guilty off the bat. let's wait and see what the best offer is we can get. that's how the legal system is working. and so to say that she's on

suicide watch, why doesn't -- how do you coordinate that with pleading not guilty, that's standard for most defendants the first time out of the box. pleading not guilty doesn't mean she is not going plead guilty later on. >> all right. same subject, different driver. check out this video. posted by x-17 online. we show it to you. according to a photographer, here it is, for this website, it shows dennis quaid getting behind the wheel of his suv after dinner a few weeks ago. according to x-17 a cop that apparently noticed that the actor seemed to be under the influence, seemed to have had too much to drink, pulled up next to him in the parking lot and cop told quaid several times get out of the car. x-17 says quaid appeared nervous, asked to go back into the restaurant to call a cab. guess what happened? the officer said sure, go back in. so quaid was allowed to bo back into the restaurant. he didn't get any kind of a dui. we don't know for sure that he

was intoxicated. but it certainly appeared to those at the scene. is there a double standard? if this hadn't been abfamous celebrity, would this have been treated differently? steve rogers. >> jane, that police officer had a responsibility to do a field sobriety check on this individual and if he, in fact, felt that he was intoxicated. yeah, i'm sorry to say, at times there is a double standard. it is wrong. i will tell you, if i was that officer's supervisor he would be in my office and would have to explain himself. >> i want to talk about how we can stop these obscenities, drunk driving cases, especially with kids in the car. we had so many of them reecentl. leeane dra was killed because she was in a car driven by women that cops say was drunk. it sparked a call for leandra's law. legislation to make it a felony simply to drive drunk with children in the car. ken sealy, do you think that's too much? or is that appropriate?

a felony simply to be caught driving drunk with children in a kareen if you don't have an accident? >> absolutely it is appropriate. i think we have to do that in order to let people understand how important this is. every day we turn on the news and we see on your show that people are dying from this. and it needs to end. this is a way to -- >> child abuse. that's what it is. >> yeah. >> absolutely. >> you know, in florida, we have a law -- child abuse is deemed anything that could reasonably expect to cause injury to a child. certainly put a child in a car with someone intoxicated you can reasonably expect something could happen. so it is not too excessive. that's the way it should be. >> all the laws -- but all the laws in the world are -- this is appropriate. but you know what, we need the cooperation of the courts. the courts need to be more concerned with the victims than the criminals and therein lies the problems in our country the courts. >> one of the things carmen's lawyer is doing is sort of -- spread the blame defense. he is saying well, don't just

blame her. there's plenty of blame to go around. some of the parents were at the party and didn't stop her from driving off with their kids. now the spread the blame defense has outraged especially the parent of the dead girl who had gone to extreme lengths to make sure his daughter was okay before the party and i guess apparently he just didn't see that she was getting into a car with this woman. i mean, you can't -- you can't blame the other parents. can you, stacy? >> well, you know, legally i think it is difficult. i think morally people might say listen, it is your responsibility to watch your child and if you think that person is under the influence, you shouldn't let your kid get in. so i think parents do have a responsibility if they are present to watch and see what is going on. you can't say i'm not responsible. i didn't see this person drinking. i mean, do you have a responsibility as a parent. >> all right. >> i think you can make that argument we also have the case of this so-called wrong-way driver that we have been talking

about for weeks now. cops say she was drunk and high on pot when she slammed her minivan into another minivan. eight people, including herself, dead. what is going on here? there's more and more cases of drunk driving moms. we have three in the news just in very, very recent weeks. >> yeah. not only are there more women now getting duis and huer alcohol content in women, binge drinking and excessive drinking, we are seeing more duis in moms. so there's definitely something significant going on. you know, whether it is moms that are also working, whether it is stress or whether it is just the fact that -- i'm so glad you bring this up, you know, on a regular basis on your show. alcohol has penetrated our psyche. our culture. it is getting worse and it is getting worse. hey, maybe it is because we are all stressed out and we are drinking more. but irrespective we have to be do something from it from the community and legal community. >> we really do. big thank you to our fantastic

guest from super tennis star meth-head ag. reveals his toxic secret. will his shocking past ruin his image? we are taking your calls. you won't believe this story.

let's meet today's win are. pete in new jersey. pete serve medical the navy during vietnam and was disabled while fighting a fire aboard a destroyer. his injury led to alcoholism. ultimately he lost everything. rock bottom came for pete the dawe he woke up in a ditch alone homeless and unable to walk. that was more than four years ago. guess what. we got great news for you. pete has not had a drink since. he's found a new home and he's now reconnecting with his sons. way to go! way to go, pete. love that story. tomorrow was going to be the last day to e-mail us or send in an i-report about your addiction and how you overcame it. but we have gotten such touching stories, overwhelming response about 100 day coming in. we are going to continue to feature these stories because we think it is important and to give away more copies of my new book "i want." also give away another trip to new york city. you can come here and visit me

on set f you win we will show you a real good time. sober time. and you can also order your own copy of "i want" at cnn.com/jane. f you have trouble with addiction check it out. all right. andre agassi's toxic secret. what was he hiding? what will it mean for his legendary image? that's coming up. first, top of the block tonight. facing a real monster philip garrido and his wife made their first court appearance in the duggard case today. the two are accused of kidnapping and brutality raping j.c. and holding her captive for 18 long years. the hearing only lasted for two minutes. but it wasn't without drama. one of garrido's rape victims showed up to face her attacker for the first time. katie calloway was kidnapped and raped by him 33 years ago but the rapist spent 11 years in jail for the attack. calloway says she's determined to make sure this creep goes

away forever. no one from the dugarz family was in court today. the man that claims to be j.c.'s biological dad showed up and had harsh words for garrido. he wants to rip his face off. the next hearing is december 11th. we will be on top of that and that's tonight's top of the block. shocking revelations. inside superstar athlete andre agassi's secret drug use. i was so shocked by this one. on the tennis court this guy was unstoppable. behind closed doors, andre agassi says he was using, of all things, crystal meth. crystal meth. in his new book, "open." slim helped him score drugs. he writes i snort some, there is a moment of regret. followed by sadness. then comes a tidal wave of euphoria that sweeps away every negative thought in my head. i never felt so alive and hopeful. i never felt such energy.

more juicy details. he hated tennis. his father was violent. and he lied to officials about why he failed a drug test. agassi told him he accidentally drank a soda spiked with meth and blamed it on his assistant. how did andre get away with this toxic secret? after the final match of his career, he was on top of the world. andre's fans gave him a standing ovation. he made an emotional speech thanking fans for supporting him through his highs and his lows. listen. >> there are a lot of things i wanted to say, a lot of things. those were some of the things that came from my belly and i -- >> larry: was it hard? >> it was really hard. how do you -- how do you prepare for that? you know. you know, people got me through it. like they did so many other times. >> no one guessed during some of the low points of his life, this guy was snorting meth.

it is blowing may mind. how did he conceal this drug use? how could he perform on drugs? he won numerous grand slams. he was ranked number one. he wed fellow tennis star steffi gr graf. richard, writer and special projects editor for "sports illustrated." former espn anchor, steven smith. addiction specialist. ken sealy. ken, is it possible that you could be playing tennis at this level and be on crystal meth at the same time? i can't imagine it. >> it seems difficult but it issing a fact. f he was in an addiction, he wouldn't be able to continue to show up. he would end up, you know, he wouldn't be able to continue the way he was performing f he was in an addiction. >> now -- >> jane, it is interesting to me -- because f you look at what meth amphetamine does, and f you

are snorting it and it is not a regular user, you are abusing it but not a chronic user, it will increase your attention. it will increase your ability to not fatigue on the tennis court. but what it is going what it's e same time, it's going to alter your dexterity and alter your ability to reason and problem solve and think things through. >> you're raising a point. yeah, if he did it a little bit it, could enhance his performance possibly. richard, you're with "sports illustrated." how many times did he admit to using crystal meth? tell us about this problem? >> i'm not sure i would call it a problem. >> i would call it a problem. >> i would say, listen, in the book, andre admits he did it for a couple of months. he had a very bad summer in 1997. to counter what the two addiction experts said, his performance in tennis at the time was miserable. he was at the lowest ebb of his career. eventually, 1998, 1 99 was when the turnaround came.

when he was in this misery was when he played the worst tennis. he was not number one at all. >> everyone stay right where you are. we'll have more on this shocker. agassi on crystal meth? it's a mind-blower to me. more coming up after the break.

all the pressure that i kind of felt on my shoulders and the desire and what it meant to win the french open this year, being down two sets to love in the finals and finding a way, to me will be something i call on the rest of my life when i wonder if i can really do anything. do something, i'm going to call back on that match right there and say, yes, if you just try hard enough, good things happen. >> tennis superstar andre agassi talking about his greatest win. tonight, a brand new shocking revelations. he said during a career low he turned to crystal meth. back out to my expert panel stephen smith, tell us about 1997 he had a bum wrist.

he became sort of down about his slump and he turned to crystal meth and then came the test. tell us about that. >> the bottom line is that. he was ranked number 141 in the world at the time. he was known for his image just as much as his play on the tennis court, his hairdo, his outfits, the women, his marriage ultimately to brooke shields, et cetera. he was known for all of that stuff just as much as he was for his tennis, but he had dropped off the map. a lot of people were wondering why and how miraculous this comeback was because you have to remember within a two-year period, he went from number 141 in the world to number 1 in the world. >> wasn't there a test at one point where the tennis association said, hey, dude, you failed a drug test? >> he took a test and he blamed it on a spiked drink from his friend, nicknamed slim and they bought it and let him off the hook, which is highly suspect. and that's why you have these anti-doping agencies even right now asking questions as to how that happened. >> that's outrageous. okay. andre isn't the first athlete to

have a problem with substance abuse. i'm not talking about steroid. i'm talking about -- quell, let's take a look, infamous golfer john daly who admitted drinking at age 8. he won big but got arrested for alcohol-related escapades, one time had passing out in a flower bed outside hooters. way to go, john. darryl strawberry went to rehab after binges. how do these people who are such amazing performers have a drug problem and perform -- i mean, i just don't understand it. andre agassi is so squeaky clean, you'd have to be tweaking a little bit if you were on meth, even when you were just out there, out and about. >> yeah, but, jane, small amounts of meth, if he was just doing it sporadically, they're not performance-enhancing. first of all, it will increase his physical activity, increase his attention, give him a little

euphoria. but the dexterity, the manual dexterity, the reaction time of looking at that tennis ball will absolutely be ill paired. so if he was not fultly abusing just dabbling here and there, he might be able to get away with it. what this tells me is all of these athletes that you mention, they're people. and they're dealing with the stress and everything else that's going on. and they were led astray and they were taken over by the disease of addiction in some capacity, even if it was just minimal as an escape method. and it just shows that it hits everybody. it can hit the best sports figure as well as the homeless guy next door to you. >> let's call it like it is. those professional athletes, those stars are an aberration. usually they're very, very young and they're very, very rich, because a lot of money is thrown in their direction. with that money, with those riches come women, come drugs, alcohol, people that are trying to exploit them, all sorts of temptations. >> well put. we have got to leave it right

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