people all along the gulf coast are boarding up windows, watching the sky. we're going to show you where the storm called ida is and where it's going. also, a major change in the medical condition to army officer suspected of opening fire at ft. hood, texas. how he's doing now. a west virginia boy finds himself face to face with a would-be carjacker. how the 9-year-old saved the day. "in his own words" mind you. wait until you hear that one. welcome to yourmond. thank you for joining us. i'm christi paul. we talk about what's happening along the gulf coast. folks bracing for tropical storm ida. downgraded from a hurricane when

winds decreased to 70 miles an hour. nothing to sneeze at. forecasters say this could dump up to eight inches of rain when it makes landfall. most likely somewhere around mobile, alabama. bonny schneider has been watching this and i know we say, oh, it's not a hurricane anymore, but there is still a sense of danger with this. >> absolutely, christi. a strong tropical storm. winds, almost the highest intensity for the tropical storm. that's why we still have warnings in effect. the latest with tropical storm ida. you see the winds at 70, but gusts higher, up to 85 miles per hour as the storm gets closer and closer to the gulf coast. we're already seeing the bands of wind and rain affecting the region at this time, and the track is moving on forward in its advancement towards the alabama area. somewhere in the vicinity as we get closer to mobile, in the early hours of the morning, we're going to see this actual storm come onshore. when we talk about landfall, it means the center of the eye passing ober a barrier island or

some part of land. that doesn't mean the strongest winds won't actually come onshore. tropical storm force winds in advance of it. the curvature affecting allal and into georgia. a look at the tropical storm wind warning meaning the areas highlighted in orange you see here, the parishes of louisiana, some of the counties of alabama and mississippi and florida, these areas will see tropical storm force winds, and it stretches far inland. so we'll see the force of this storm even once 2 coming onshore. that means heavy downpours of rain stretch all the way into georgia, into north carolina. we could see several inches of rain and, remember, the southeast, christi has been hit hard. more falling brings a threat of flooding. flood watches in places for cities like atlanta. starting to see heavy rain later tonight. >> interesting to see the most rainfall according to your map is birmingham. on the coast. >> no.

it will sweep up storm surge and a lot of water. we're mont egg it carefully. >> thank you so much. glad to have you onboard to keep track of it. also, other news for you right now. iran is charging three u.s. hikers who allegedly crossed into the country illegally of es speen aus espionage. secretary of state hillary clinton says there's no evidence to support changes against shane bauer, sarah and jash. they crossed the border between iraq and iran by mistake. all right. let's get to the ft. hood shootings. 16 victims still in the hospital. seven in intensive care and the suspected shooter major nidal hasan is off a ventilator, reported to be awake and talking. investigators are asking for help from anyone, really, there during the shooting. apparently someone, or some of those people may have inadvertently left the scene with evidence, firearm residue or shell casings.

they're being sought. the fbi is expected to look into whether major hasan met with two of the 9/11 hijackers, saying the hijackers attended the same mosque where the funeral for hasan's mother was held in may of 2001. the "washington post" reports investigators are looking at any ties between hasan and a radical islamic leader who preached at that mosque. growing signs hasan had ex-cl m ex-claimiex-clai ex-extremist views students complained about a presentation that justified suicide bombing. he reportedly told classmates islamic law supersedes the u.s. constitution. senator joe lieberman says he will start an investigation. >> the u.s. army and the fbi are now investigating the murder, but i think it's very important for the army and the department of defense to go back and conduct a separate, independent investigation of whether there were warning signs dr. hasan was

giving both of the stress he was under and of the fact he had become an islamist extremist. >> president obama and the first lady will attend a memorial service tomorrow for the victim of the ft.hood shootings. 13 people were killed. we'll have some stories for you in a few minutes and throughout the day. meanwhile, a man wanted for questioning in the shooting deaths of three women in illinois is in police custody now. shots rang out outside an east st. louis convenience store saturday night. the store other than says the gunfire was directed at a car carrying three women and three kids. the three women can killed. the children weren't hurt. police say it was not a random act and the violence may have been domestic in nature but charges have not been filed yet. investigators are still looking for the suspect's car specifically. mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> you know that wall did indeed come down more than two years after that speech by president

reagan and 20 years ago today, the end of communism. bon jovi will perform. a lot of world leaders there including secretary of state hillary clinton and at the reagan presidential library in simi valley, california, a replica constructed next to a piece of that authentic wall. okay. here's our question today. should minors be sentenced to life terms with no chance of parole for a crime that doesn't include death? the issue in front of the supreme court, and we're plattlg it in front of you as well.

the supreme court is hearing a case today that is raising quite a bit of controversy, and we're so happy you're chiming in on this here. let me pose this to you. should juvenile offenders be put away for life without parole for

crimes that do not involve a death. opponents say the punishment is cruel and unusual. the people who support this question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile reoffenders. 70% of those inmates are in florida. four years ago the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. richelle carey is posing this to you. >> going to be a huge story. >> as all of us are here, because we want to get your take on it, a while before we get the supreme court's decision obviously, but we don't have to wait for yours. do you think it's cruel and unusual to lock kids up for life? boy, richelle, what have you been hearing today? >> a lot of reactions, christi, some have an immediate knee-jerk reaction when you talk about crime. lock everybody up, don't want to know the details. a lot of people are thinking this through. the couple of cases the court are focusing on, one a 13-year-old who raped someone. that's a horrible, horrible

crime. no one wants to be soft on crime, but they're really are a lot of issues here. we've been talking about this. actually, the first caller we have is jerome calling from california, and the jerome actually went to prison as young person and have a very unique perspective on this. jerome, what do you feel comfortable sharing with us. we want to know. >> caller: you know, it's a -- when you're a young man, you know, 12, 13, you're not -- you're going to make mistakes. going to make a lot of mistakes. i was 16. i came out 21. >> came out at 21 or 29? sorry. couldn't hear you. >> caller: i was 16. i came out at 21. >> okay. and you were in an adult prison? >> caller: yes, adult prison. >> how did that affect you? >> caller: after a year, i

learned my lesson. dreaming again. just thinking about getting back to the streets. changing my life. i got my ged. did things people outside of here was doing. those kids are doing the same thing. a lot of them are taking steps towards life on the streets, doing something else. we think a deviate in prison. you want them to be back outside and be a productive citizen in society. >> do you think there are some young people, though, whose crime is just so horrific that there is no chance that they can be rehabilitationed? >> caller: i don't think so. >> okay. >> caller: no. i don't think so. we make a lot of mistakes and like i say, when you're 12, 13, you're not even dreaming yet. you haven't even you know, begun to live life at all. >> jerome, thank you for your ph something so personal with us. really do. a lot comments on my facebook page. they came right away when we mentioned this topic.

richelle carey@hln. another, i think it should be on a case-by-case basis. i find it sad to discuss this matter. kids are becoming more and more violence. kids hurting and raping and killing one another. it's all too sad. in fact, the state of florida says the reason they started to put harsher punishments on young offenders is because of this crime wave that began back in the 1990s. jackie wrote this -- it's simple. do the crime, pay the time. we're letting too many people out of prison who just go back and repeat offenses. whorld is changing offenders are getting younger and younger and more violent. be strong in sending a message to do the right thing or pay for your crime. greg is calling us from arizona. greg what do you think about the idea of sending a young person to prison for the rest of their lives for a crime that is not murder? >> caller: well, i think they should -- excuse me. i think they should go to prison for the rest of their life.

we have to show people that's in jail that if you do crimes, there is a consequence to what you're doing. and fn we don't do that, things are just going to snowball and keep snowballing. >> do you think that young people, depending on the crime, that in some cases, they do deserve a second chance? that they can be rehabilitated? in some cases we're talking about 13 and 14 yards? what do you sdwli. >> caller: a fine line. look back, a 13, 14-year-old, you let them out. he commit as crime again. maybe then go for life. there should be a three-strike law. >> a tough call to make. isn't it? >> caller: a little bit. yes. >> thank you for your phone call. we want to talk about this. we want your views. should the court system be able to sentence children to life in prison for serious crimes that do not involve killing anyone? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. keep calling.

1 d 1-877-tell-hln. text us. this is a really, really tough one. we're talking about kids, also talking about victims that sometimes suffer horrible, horrible crime. i mean, besides murder, there are other horrible crimes sometimes these young people commit. >> on my facebook page, a lot of people are in the same -- do the crime, do the time mentality. i want to read one from sarah who wrote and said, studies show our brains are not fully developed until our mid-20s. how can we hold a person without a fully developed brains for their actions for their entire lives? we're getting a gamut. a lot of people say, where are the parents? maybe parents should be held accountedable. oop whole other big sdougs have, spectrum of it. thank you so much, richelle and thank you for contributing to the segment. we appreciate it. a suspected carjacker, thought he was pretty tough, until he ran into a cagey 9-year-old kid.

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right now, at an army hospital in texas, the officer accused of opening fire at ft. hood is awake and talking. at the same time, the post is preparing to honor those who died. samantha hayes is in ft. hood right now. samantha, what do we know about what's going to happen there later today? >> reporter: well, christi, here at ft. hood they're preparing for a memorial service tomorrow afternoon. you can probably see those big security storage containers that have been put up around the perimeter of the field to add extra security for what's going to be a very high-pro file event. back to the investigation and major hasan. as you mentioned, apparently he

is conscience. this is word coming from the hospital where he is being treated in san antonio. his ventilator taken out and we understand he has had some communication with staff members there. we don't know if he's been able to talk 20 investigators yesterday, although we're sure of course they're interested in doing that. more information, christi, is coming out from friends and relatives about hasan in terms of the tension and turmoil that he seemed to feel regarding conflict between his service in the military and his beliefs as muslim, and this morning private joseph foster, who was one of the victims in the shooting spoke to cnn and talked about something that he heard hasan say before he opened fire. >> i was sitting in what they call station 13. where we get basically our final outs of our rosp system, and i was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant

stood up, yelled allah akbar in arabic and he opened fire. >> reporter: private foster was scheduled to be deployed in afghanistan in january and he said he still is going to do everything he can to try and make that deadline on time. he still wants to go. he still wants to serve, even though she wounded. he's walking with a cane right now because of that gunshot wound in his left hip. chris christi, we are expecting to hear from army officials today in a press conference. it's appears that's been delayed. had we get information about that we'll bring it to you. >> you know, samantha, seems every day unveils something new about this man hasan. the suspect and his background and potentially extremist views. we don't know that for sure. we're hearing about two mosques where he may have worshipped or been connected to? what do you know? >> reporter: a local mosque here

near ft. hood where he participated and frequent prayers. some people have said up to five time as day at some point, and that he attended prayer services thursday morning, of course we know about six hours later, allegedly opened fire here at ft. hood. investigators are also looking into a mosque and a mom where he attended in 2001, falls church, virginia. particularly interesting, because the one there investigators believe may have had some interaction or crossed paths perhaps with a couple of the 9/11 terrorists, and this particular mosque is also known for fiery rhetoric and they don't know whether in was during a time when hasan became more intense about his beliefs and maybe pointed, as you mentioned, to more fundamentalist extremist leanings. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. all right.

all of you along the gulf coast i know bracing for tropical storm ida. here's a radar for you so you can see where it is right now. downgraded from a hurricane this morning, though, the good news, but its winds are still at 70 miles per hour. forecasters say this could dump up to eight inches of rain when it makes landfall. possibly somewhere around mobile, alabama. look at the live pictures we're getting now though. waves from the ocean coming in at pensacola at the peach. tropical storm warnings are in effect along a 200-mile stretch from louisiana to florida. the governors of both states we now know declared states of emergency. so far no mandatory evacuations ordered but authorities in coastal areas are encouraging people near the water, at the water you see there, or in mobile homes to please leave. we can see it's raining and, again, looks like the surf is starting to pick up. a truck driver was killed this morning when he lost control on a new s curve that's part of the san francisco bay bridge. highway patrol said the rig went

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the supreme court is hearing a case raising controversy. should juvenile offenders be put away for life for crimes that do not involve a death. the argument, opponents say that punishment is cruel and unusual. people who support of loo sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile repeat offenders. many of serving life terms for non-homicide offenses and 70 percents of those are in florida. four years ago the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles but we've been asking for your view on this. richelle carey is asking on

our hln, your facebook page, as are myself and chuck, and i'm interested to know some of the comments you've gotten. >> in the case you were talking about back in 2005, ruled unconstitutional to put someone to death who was found guilty of committing a murder as a minor. the majority opinion actually referenced the fact they thought that juveniles could possibly be rehabilitated. that's kind ever the crux of this as well. what we're talking about is whether or not it's cruel and unusual punishment to sentence a juvenile to life in prison for a crime that is not murder. the cases they're focusing on christi, a case where a 13-year-old, found guilty of raping an elderly woman. people don't really have sympathy for that. understandably. in another case, a 16-year-old is serving life in prison for a robbery. there's about 100 kids, like you said, in this situation, but obviously when you're talking about a supreme court case it would have far-reaching implications for future cases as well. that's what we're talking about. some are saying in you're old

enough 20 do the crime, do the time, no matter what. we hear that a lot. other people are saying if we're talking about kids, can we continue to throw away people for something they do at a young age? that they don't want goiv up on a child. especially if they have a committed murder. maybe stop them from progressing to the next level and something we can do. if you send a child to prison all you're doing is teaching them to be a criminal. some of the opinions we're getting so far on facebook and e-mail and phone calls. we want team positive jump in and talk about this. in facebook search richelle carey hln. dive into the discussion. this is one comment from tina we want to share. tina says, children have such a lack of understanding, they lack the meantal capacity to maybe the crime complete. no, i don't believe they should be held for life. they should get extensive help and held for a reasonableality of time as punishment. this is not the section of crim thals in a need helped for life.

one sample we're getting so far. do you think the criminal system, should the court system, rather, be able to sentence children to life in prison for serious crimes that don't involve killing anyone? send results to text hlntv. an emotional topic. talking about crime victims and also about children. >> young people. a couple people say i'm glad i'm not the prn i was when i was 13. >> exactly. aren't we all. >> yeah. i'm glad i'm not the person at 19, 20. >> exactly. all of us! >> thank you. please, chime in. it's an important issue and it is -- people can be very thoughtful with this. it's interesting to hear your comments. >> i agree. michael jackson's father, heard about this? asking for money from the late singer's estate. his attorney filed court documents friday asking for an unspecified allowance to help cover expenses that exceeds

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president and mrs. obama will fly to texas for a memorial for the 13 people killed at ft. hood last week mr. cahill was

the only civilian killed. there he is. before that, he was a rural doctor and served in the national guard and army reserves. his children say he was incredibly smart and loving. one really choked up when asked what she would miss about him. >> i mean what would you miss about your dad? it's that. i miss that. anybody. that's the thing is, like, i mean, there's a lot of people out there who have lost their dads. what would you miss? i miss that. >> she really puts it into perspective for us. three weeks ago cahill had a heart attack and was back at work week later. the young of the victim was 19-year-old aaron nemelka. his family says he graduated from a utah high school just last year and immediately

enlisted in the military. >> intensely proud to serve under the leadership of the president. aaron felt keenly the responsibility of representing both his country and his family. he's proud to follow in the footsteps of both his grandfathers that served, two uncles that are in the military, and one cousin. >> one of nemelka's grandfathers received a purple heart in the korean war. he was set to deply to afghanistan in january. a potential carjacking stopped in west virginia by a 9-year-old. police say the boy pulled the keys out of the ignition when the suspect allegedly jumped into the car. the boy was in the car with his three younger brothers, no less, while his mom was inside a store. >> somebody just came and opened the door and tried -- he told me to get out but i didn't get out and i yanked the keys out of the

ignition, and i had them like this, and then he tried to get it. and he banged my head against the door, and then he got out and started running and then he ran across the street. >> that's a brave little boy. l. an atlanta bus driver suspend for forcing passengers to pray before allowing them off the bus. one passenger said he initially thought something was wrong friday when the bus driver asked him and three others to hold hands in prayer. >> the bus driver just got out of his seat and told everybody to hold prayer, and we held prayer for, like, three to four minutes. >> you feel like you were forced to pray? >> yeah, you know, if i didn't, was he going to hopen the door because he was out of his seat. he didn't look like he was going for controls to me. >> in other words, he wasn't opening the door to get out. the passenger's cousin agreed to meet him at the bus stop. she was confused. everything united states cleared up once passengers were allowed out of the bus.

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welcome. everybody, straight to ft. hood in texas. briefing us on the massacre last thursday. >> to get an update to you from the criminal investigating division some time later today. i think we're entering a new phase here, and this is where i'm most concerned as a commander of ft. hood, and that has to do with this healing phase that we're in. and i think what's absolutely critical is that we understand the nature of what has happened here. you know there are probably 600 people who are somehow directly touched by this incident and that would be a combination of the soldiers that were passing through the srp site, many

civilians who were at the srp site, the first responders, and many of the great folks that were working at the hospitals. and so our initial focus in these last three days has been working on getting them the kind of behavioral assessments and behavioral counseling for the kinds of traumatic stress incidents that they have been through. and we are working that very hard as it becomes appropriate, in terms of the soldiers' protocol of care in regard to the larger populations i had a very good session yesterday with the civilian personnel and the soldiers who worked at soldier readiness site and had a good opportunity to address their concerns and, again, they began their processing through this critical incident debrief process. we are working very hard on other populations as well. and i think the thing you need to understand is the person who is most prepared to deal with

this are the soldiers who are, to some extent, because of their training, have had some degree of stress training before this. you saw a very quick return, in many cases, of soldiers. this is what we do. many of us are used to being in theater and something like this happens, and we come back right away, we get on with the mission, we do the memorial service, we send the comrades home and then we move on with the mission. and again, those are not the people -- i mean i think that's the easiest population in many ways to deal with. the real challenge that we have has to do with the other folks that are here at ft. hood, the civilians that were working and became a part of this and when you look at the families here at ft. hood, who had always previously considered this to be a safe place, the children that are here and, again, many of whom locked down in schools. so we are right now in the process of executing a comprehensive program to address

the needs of all of these populations. there's another population i would also mention, and that is we realize that there are other soldiers here -- >> well the words of the commanding general, third core commander at ft. hood, lieutenant general robert cone, and aplong the other things he's talked about 27 people of the 29 wounded in the rampage on thursday are well enough to attend the tuesday service, the service at the post tomorrow. president obama will be there. president george w. bush, former president bush, has paid a courtesy call, along with the former first lady. and the suspect major nidal hasan is conscious and talking from his bed 120 miles away from ft. hood in san antonio. when we get more information on hasan and the investigation itself, we'll bring it to you. people along the gulf coast are bracing for tropical storm ida, downgraded from a hurricane this morning. still forecast to say it could dump up to eight inches of lane reign when it makes landfall

probably around mobil, alabama. bonnie schneider is joining us with the latest. heading for the southeast. >> absolutely. we are talking about a big tropical storm and a strong one at that. when you hear tropical storm, you may think it's not so bad but this is a powerful storm once a category ii hurricane. ida is on the move. already some of the convection coming on shore. but the center of circulation has not yet done that. winds are at 70 miles per hour, gusts up to 85. so right now the center is about 283 miles from pensacola, florida. but the movement will take it onshore on to areas of possibly alabama and into florida, as we go through the next 24 hours. we are anticipating that landfall to occur some time in the early morning hours. this is a live picture of pensacola, florida, courtesy of affiliate wear. you can see the white caps, waves are growing. we are anticipating significant storm surge from this system, as it makes its way onshore. notice the track and how it

curves to right side. the question is, when will that occur? will it occur when the storm's offshore or once it's onshore? in any case, it's important to note i'd's a huge rain make, not just for coastal parishes of louisiana or the counties of mississippi into louisiana, where we have tropical storm wind warningses. we also have flood watches posted northward, well into areas of georgia and north carolina. 5.5 inches anticipated for rain in birmingham, alabama inland and into atlanta, georgia, where there's a flash flood watch in effect. starting tonight rain will get heavy into early hours of tomorrow. the region in the southeast has been hit hard by flooding in the past month or so. the ground is already saturated and more rain is likely to cause flooding across much of this region. when we look at what to expect over the next 12 to 24 hours, coastal flood, power oages due wind damage and flooding rain. this will bring rain to the mid

atlantaing by later on this week. >> five inches of rain in birmingham. >> that's a lot. >> thanks. appreciate it. iran is charging the three american hikers grabbed along the border with espionage. they have been held more than three months for allegedly crossing into the country illegally. secretary of state hillary clinton says there's no evidence to support charges against shane bauer, sarah shourd and josh fattal. police in river ridge, louisiana, looking for the person who fired several rounds at an apartment complex, killing a 7-year-old girl while she slept. the girl was asleep in the living room when a stray bullet pierced the walls before down sunday and struck her in the neck. >> this, you know, child lying in the living room on an air mattress with a cousin and it wasn't until the child began crying that alerted the mother and the other child and that's when she discovered her daughter had a gunshot wound in her neck. >> the whole thing is like totally ridiculous.

it's sad. a 7-year-old killed over something like whatever was going on out here. >> just horrific. it truly is. it's horrific crime. >> river ridge is a new orleans suburb. paramedics rushed the girl to the hospital. she died later. investigators are asking anyone with information call crime stoppers 504-822-1111. a bombshell in the caylee anthony case. the fbiness released documents saying a gatorade bottle found close to caylee's remains contained a syringe and the syringe itself contained traces of chloroform as well as testosterone. authorities previously said there were traces of chloroform in the trunk of casey anthony's car but couldn't say whether it was a factor in her daughter's death. she's charged with first-degree murder. on nancy grace, medical experts say there's no way chloroform got into a syringe accidentally and it was intended to be injected into someone. he also said the presence of testosterone was an intriguing

new factor. >> isn't it true that, back in the '70s, chloroform was banned for consumer use? >> right because of the side effects and how dangerous it is. so when i say -- >> what side effects? what side effects. >> the lethal side effects, toxicity found to be associated with. using it as an anesthetic is unreliable. so it was replaced with modern and reliable medications. >> doctor, while i've still got you, how would testosterone or ethanol end up in there? >> testosterones a hormone naturally found in the body but used by people abusing steroids for bodybuilding purposes or people who are having gender reassignment. so i mean they may be should be looking for somebody who is using steroids or has that type of predilection. >> previous lie released

documents show chloroform recipes. how will her defense fight back against the seemingly damning evidence? tonight 8:00 and 10:00 eastern here on hln. the supreme court refused to block the execution of john muhammed alan. in 2002, the fall of 2002, mohammed shot at least to people in washington, d.c., maryland, virginia, five in a single day. ten victims died. he's due to be executed at 9:00 eastern tomorrow for the killing of a man at a virginia gas station. a sniper hit. his younger accomplice, lee boyd malveaux, serving life in prison. should minors be sentenced to life terms with no paroler to a crime that does not include death? that's the issue before the u.s. supreme court. and you. y yous, ahead.

the u.s. supreme court is hearing arguments in a case raising controversy, should

juvenile offenders be put away for life without parole for a crime that doesn't involve a death? opponents say it's cruel and unusual people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile repeat offenders. 109 juvenile inmates nationwide serving life terms for nonhomicide offenses, 70% of inmates are in florida. four years ago the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. we're not going to hear quickly what the supreme court ruling is probably not until early next year. do you think it's cruel and unusual to lock a kid up for life? richelle carey is here to showcase your view. >> some of the cases the courts will be talking about, chuck, 13-year-old who raped someone that gets people upset, as it should. it's a horrible crime. a 16-year-old serving life in prison for robbery. this is the thing that people talk about it's happening in their community, it's their children, it's their family members who may be crime victims. laura is calling us from ohio. laura deals with this stuff all

the time. laura is a police officer on the street dealing with criminals in some case repeat offenders. what do you think about the idea of sending a juvenile to prison for life for a crime that is not murder? >> caller: first off, i'm a newly retired officer from the city of cleveland. i'm also a parent, a mother. and i believe that if a child does a crime, any propensity, they have a culpable sense to know the difference between right and wrong. they should, as an adult, be sentenced and tried by the same rule. if an adult goes for eight years for a crime and the child does exactly the same crime, they should be doing eight years. as a child, you can't try to rehabilitate them. but repeat offenders, they have a propensity to do it once, twice, if they continue to do it, they will do it on to adulthood. >> even someone as young as 13?

>> caller: 13 years old aboknow right from wrong. you know if you steal a cookie, you know from right from wrong. so if i do it, i'm going to go to jail. why should they get away with it? >> okay. >> caller: i child will tell you -- >> lawyer ura we're having a ha time hearing you. >> caller: hello? >> we can hear you now. >> caller: i'm saying that a child -- children, juveniles, will tell police officers, have told us, i'm going to go for a couple of days and i'll be out of jail tomorrow. >> laura, that's why we wanted your perspective, you've been on the street dealing with this. thank you. anthony's calling us california. anthony, you have done time before and you say that there are people -- anthony, anthony, slow down, slow down. go ahead. >> caller: i totally disagree with that individual's

philosophy. stealing the cookie has nothing to do violating somebody and not understanding what you have done to really -- the ripple effect if you hurt somebody. >> anthony, young offends are that do hurt someone that physically harm someone, do you think -- do you think -- anthony. >> caller: outside of murder, outside of murder, regardless, they're at any propensity to have any repeat offense. but to get life to get a life sentence that you haven't took a life, i totally disagree with that. at 13-year-olds, you are not operating like you would at 33. you do not have the same reasoning. you don't have the same frame of reference, anything. so her being a seasoned police officer, she should be able to dictate -- >> anthony, let me ask you this. if somebody in your family, if something horrible happened to them and it was a -- anthony, anthony, slow down, anthony, anthony, we're trying to have a

conversation, okay? >> caller: take a 13-year-old -- >> anthony, anthony, we're trying to have a conversation, okay? >> caller: i'm listening. >> slow down. if something horrible happened to someone in your family and it was a juvenif owvenile offender you want -- anthony. >> caller: i'm trying to -- >> we have to move on. we're out of time. we want to continue to hear your views of this. should the court s. system sentence children to life in prison for serious crimes that don't involve killing anyone? e-mail us cnn.com/hln. call us right now at 1-877-tell-hln so we can have a conversation, text us at hln tv.

the fbi is looking into whether the ft. hood suspect, major nidal malik hasan ever met with two of the 9/11 hijackers. the associated press reports the hijackers attended the same

virginia mosque where the funeral for hasan's mother was held in may 2001. "the washington post" reports investigators are looking at any ties between hasan and a radical islaming cleric who preached that the moving and who lives in the middle east. there are growing sign of hasan embracing extremist ideas about islam. classmates complained about his anti-american views including a presentation that justified suicide bombing and reportedly told classmates that islamic law supersedes the u.s. constitution. senator lieberman of connecticut says he'll start an investigation. >> u.s. army and the fbi are now investigating the murder, but i think it's very important for the army and the department of defense to go back and conduct a separate, independent investigation of whether there were warning signs dr. hasan was giving boat of the stress he was unand the fact that he had become an islamist extremist. >> easy to lose sight of the

people behind numbers in cases like the ft. hood rampage. we'd like share details about the lives lost. 21-year-old private michael pearson, wanted to study musical theory and hoped his military stint would pay for college. his brother says he was truly living life when he played his guitar. sergeant aim krugyer was a softball, basketball player. a friend said she was one of best person you could ever meet. also private aaron nemelka, his family side he was excited to be deploying to afghanistan in january. 56-year-old john gaffaney was an army reservist who had been a psychiatric nurse. worked two decades helping elderly victims of abuse and negle neglect. he arrived to prepare for deployment to iraq. a former co-worker remembers him fondly. >> everyone knows that, that loved him here, he was doing what he wanted to. he wanted to be where he was. he was driven to make a

difference. >> we're going to share details on more victims in the next half hour. a potential carjacking stopped in west virginia by a 9-year-old. police said the boy pulled the keys out of the ignition when the suspect jumped out of the car. the boy was in his car with three younger brothers while his mom was inside the store. >> somebody just came and opened the door and tried to -- he told me to get out but i didn't get out and i yanked keys out of the ignition, and i had him like this, and then he tried to get it, and he banged my head against the door and then he got out and started run, and then he run across the street. >> the suspect's facing several charges including kidnapping and auto theft. it was a great moment in 20th century history and it happened 20 years ago today. see how they're celebrating at fall of the berlin wall right by checkpoint charlie.

people along the gulf coast bracing for tropical storm ida. it was downgraded from a hurricane today. its top winds down to 70 miles per how, but it's going be a rainmaker, perhaps eight inches when it makes landfall, probably not far from mobile bay, west of pensacola. ida was 220 miles south-southwest of pensacola. tropical storm warnings up along a 200-mile stretch of louisiana and florida. governors of both states have declared states of emergency. no evacuations have been ordered but authorities are encouraging people near the water or mobile

homes to leave. the suspect in the ft. hood shootings major nidal hasan is conscious and talking in a military hospital in san antonio. hospital officials are not saying whether he's talking about the shooting of course. at ft. hood officers are focusing on victims who survived the deadly rampage and tomorrow's post wide memorial service. >> i just had the great privilege of visiting officer munley and her family over at metroplex hospital. she's doing well. and sends her regards. hopefully we'll get a chance to see more of her in the days to come. right now in regard to the casualties, we still have 15 of our great soldiers hospitalized, eight are in intensive care, seven in wards. thoughts and prayers go out to them and their families during this difficult time. we have some 27 soldiers who are out of the hospital and will be, i think majority of them, will be present at tomorrow's

memorial ceremony and many will have families in town to go to this event. in regard to the investigation, i have nothing to add at this time in regard to that. and we're working very hard to get an update to you from the criminal investigating division some time later today. >> time undetermined but we'll bring you the latest from that update on the investigation. again, the memorial service tomorrow will be attended by the president and first lady, and he's expected to speak. and the good news is that perhaps most if not all, of 27 who were wounded last thursday will be able to attend as well. senator lieberman says his homeland security committee will be holding hearings to investigate whether the shootings were a terrorist act. lieberman wants to know whether the army failed to spot signs of islamic extremism in the suspect. a truck driver lost control on the bay bridge. the rig went over the side, it

fell 200 feet. it was still dark when the driver tried to make that turn at 50 miles an hour. it's the first fatality at the curve but there have been 42 crashes in the last two months. iran is charging three young american hikers with espionage. they have been held there more than three months for allegedly crossing the country's border illegal. secretary of state hillary clinton says there's no evidence to support charges against shane bauer, shara shourd and josh fattal. a bombshell in the caylee anthony case. the fib's released documents saying a gatorade bottle contain a syringe and the syringe itself contained traces of chloroform and testosterone. authorities previously said there were traces of chloroform in the trunk of casey anthony's car, but they can't say whether it was a factor in her daughter's death. she's charged with first-degree murder. on "nancy grace" medical expert says there's no way colhlorofor

got into the syringe accidentally. the presence of testosterone is certainly an intriguing, new factor. >> isn't it true that, back in the '70s chloroform was banned for consumer use? >> right, because of the side effects and how dangerous it is. so when i say -- >> what side effects? >> the lethal side effects, the toxicity found to be associated with it and the volatile state of it. so using it as an anesthetic is just very unreliable. replaced with modern and more reliable medications. >> while i've still got you, how would testosterone or ethanol end up in there? >> this is a big mystery to me. testosterone is a hormone naturally found in the body but also used by people who are abusing steroids for bodybuilding purposes or people that are maybe having gender reassignment. so i mean they maybe should be looking for somebody who is using steroids or has that type

of predilection. >> wow. >> tonight on "nancy grace quigss the latest on the missing child story that turned out differently. remember baby shannon found under a bed days after reported missing? her mother and baby-sitter in jail. the latest 8:00 and 10:00 eastern. 500 people turned out to remember the 11 women found dead in the home in cleveland. they marched with candles after a memorial service to the house where the women were found. anthony sowell lives there, accused of murder and rape. one of the seven bodies identify talecia. for theson. her mom was there last night. >> reporter: as we stand here in front of this home where they found your daughter, what is that like for you? >> it's hard, because i want to burn it down. i really would like to. it's very hard. you know that's why i won't look at it. >> reporter: why won't you look at it?

>> because i know my baby was in in there and she got killed in there, you know? and it's hard. >> again, the man accused in the case anthony sowell a registered sex offender. his dna is entered into a national database to see if he's connected in any unsolved cases. his lawyer requested he be put on suicide watch in jail. the supreme court refused to block the execution of john a n allen muhammad. the execution set for tomorrow night. in late 2002 he shot at least 20 people in washington, d.c., virginia, maryland, five in a single day. ten victims died. due to be executed 9:00 eastern tomorrow p.m. for the killing of a man in a virginia gas station. his accomplice lee boyd malvo is serving life in prison. should minors be sentenced to life with no chance for parole in a crime that done include murder? that's the issue today for the supreme court and you.

we'd like to share a little bit of information we've learned about the victims from the ft. hood ram pain. jason hunt was recently married and about to head to iraq for the second time. his sister said the 22-year-old hunt wanted to serve other people and live for something greater than himself. 21-year-old francheska velez transferred to ft. hood last week because she was pregnant. her dad said the loss is doubly hard because it came at hands of one-her own. fred green, 29, a wife and stwo small children. he grew up in a church and knew the bible like the back of his hand. he joined the army last year after the company where he worked shut down.

>> many of hisful low soldiers told us he was the quiet professional of the unit, never complaining about a job grifrn and often volunteer, when needed. >> heartbreaking thing to know he's gone the way he had to leave this world. but i'm sure he's in a better place but i hate, you know, it's heartbreaking. >> wow. also killed private kham xiong prepping for his first deployment. the father three children. michael cahill just returned to work a week after heart surgery. he liked his job so much he couldn't stand to be away. all fascinating stories. police just outside new orleans in jefferson parish, louisiana, looking for the person who fired several rounds in an apartment complex killing a 7-year-old girl while she slept. wwl talked to some of the girl' neighbors about what happened. >> reporter: investigators mark

off the bullet hole as long the wall of a river ridge apartment complex on jefferson highway. neighbors awakened around 4:00 by the sound of gunfire. >> pop, pop, pop, bang, bang, bang, scream, hollering. >> reporter: a 7-year-old arc sleep in the living room of an apartment, shot in the nenekt. >> this child was like in the living room an an air mattress with a cousin and it wasn't until the child started crying and that's when she discovered she had a gunshot wound in the neck. >> reporter: she rushed the girl to hospital, where she died. >> just the whole thing it's like totally ridiculous. it's sad. a -year-old killed over something like whatever was going on out here, you know? >> reporter: several blocks away from the apartment complex on south upland avenue, jefferson parish investigators are scoured the area looking for evidence of shots fired there. >> there's something else.

it's quiet during the day but at night i don't know. >> i heard maybe five to seven shots at 4:05, 4:10, got up, came, looked around the property, i didn't see anything, i didn't open the door and come out or anything but i saw nothing. >> reporter: robyn cross grew up and said south upland avenue used to be a quiet, dead end street until opened up to through traffic. >> traffic up and down the street all time of the day, all time of the night. i don't know if that's added to our problems here but since it's been down, it has been increasing crime. >> reporter: crime that neighbors say is beginning to wear them down. >> it's just horrific. it truly is. it's horrific crime. >> thanks to myra rodriguez. a 70-year-old man shot dead in a bare in vail, colorado the first homicide in that posh ski resort in decades.

63-year-old richard morrow charged with first-degree murder. witness says the vietnam vet was a regular at sandbar sports grill. he apparently became irate saturday and escorted out the door when he allegedly pulled a gun and opened fire. >> the first shot, nobody knew what happened. we thought he threw a chair because there was a fight on the other side of the bar the second one, that's gunfire. hard to count while running. they kept coming. >> i found a man holding another guy, he had been shot in the arm. >> put my belt on, tightened it down, held it there until the ambulance got there to come and check on him. >> two other people injured in the shooting, they were taken to area hospitals. the u.s. supreme court is hearing a case today, raising controversy. should juvenile i fenders be a. put way for life without parole for a crime that doesn't involve death? people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for young repeat offenders, 109

juvenile inmates serving life terms, 70% of inmates are in florida. the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. we'd love to know what your views on this are. is it cruel and unusual to sentence a kid to life in prison without parole for a crime that doesn't involve any death? rir shell carrey's here to tellious what you're saying. >> passionate things, emotional things and, chuck, the reason that is because really at the root of this is people wanting to feel safe. they want to feel safe in their communities and when somebody violates that they want there to be justice. so obviously, this is going to get an emotional response. some people are compassion nate and a little bit of everything in between. in the cases that the justices are focusing on a case involving a 13-year-old convicted of raping an elderly woman. that's going to get an emotional response. that shatters the sense of feeling safe and want justice.

another case a 16-year-old sentenced to life in prison stemming from a robbery, armed robbery. there's about 100 kids in a similar situation. so should these kids be serving life in prison for something that does not involve killing someone, because short of killing someone, there's still a lot of other horrible things you can do to violate the sanctity of feeling safe. let me give you an example. what leshon wrote on facebook. there's absolutely no reason to sentence a child to life in prison. i have been there and have seen a 15-year-old serving life. he was raped and abused on a regular basis. i understand that as a society we have less sympathy for some crimes than others, but if we don't see them as being old enough to vote or go to war, then why should we lock them up for life when their minds clearly aren't developed enough to know the severity of their crimes? a lot of people that say, hey,

if they're old enough to put the thought together to do some of these seb sure crimes even if it's not murder they've got to be able to do the time as well. it's a tough argument. >> i wonder why so many are in florida, too. doesn't it seem odd to you? >> 70% in florida. there are other states where there are juvenile offenders serving life, but they are because they did commit a murder. >> the case before the u.s. supreme court is about a 13-year-old? >> i do have a bit of an answer why it's florida. back in the '90s, they were dealing with a wave of youth crime, so that's kind of why there's a lot of cases in florida. againer we want your responses to this. >> great. thank you so much. >> you bet. >> there's the e-mail dress, cnn.com/hln. we salute troops every day at hln. robin meade has a special tribute from a texas mom to her son. >> our military salute is from angela gaffer in to her son, cory gaffer in. cory is a wonderful, young man

with a lot of love in his heart for his family and country. >> hi, robin. this is angela gaffner, specialist cory gaffner's mom. i want to tell my son to stay strong, be safe i want to let him know i love him very much. >> engaged to be married around this time next year. back to you. it was a great moment in 20th century history and it happened 20 years ago today. there, nicole lass sarkozy addressing the large crowd gathered by the gate at what used to be the berlin wall. see how they're celebrating the fall of the wall 20 years later.

20 years ago today, 11/9/89 the berlin wall came down, freeing eastern europe from communist rule, marking the beginning of the end of the cold

war. quite a seminal event. several events around the world are being planned to mark the historic occasion. see the posts, pillars, blocks that look like dominos? all going to fall fall symbolically later. secretary of state hillary clinton is joining world leaders to celebrate the anniversary. here is a scene from the ronald reagan presidential library in seem evally, california. the library invited people to paint messages on 32-foot replicas of the wall. and a fifth grade class is getting to tear it down today. they're having fun, evoking memories of when the president called on then soviet leader might california gorbachev to tear down this wall. it truly changed the world. a british woman who lived close to the wall took some pictures of her smiling boys after chunks of it were swept away. she said her living room looked

over the wall, and they could see the border guards and the tower. she says she can't imagine how they managed to live with such a depressing site. she said when she found out what was happening at the wall, she fought back tears while racing home to catch the news. she says that evening, people were celebrating trying to take it in. she said there was also a sense of apprehension. was this all for real? would it last, would it be reversed? she says she is incredibly lucky to have witnessed it at all. we have a mosaic of photos and video related to the historic event, constantly update by our i-report team many so check out some amazing stories. and send us your own. when you have images of breaking news, go to ireport.com and click on the upload now link. a man in brazil crashed his own funeral. if that wasn't freaky enough, the spoof happened during latin america's day of the observances. the story behind the big scare.

people all along the gulf coast are boarding up windows and watching the sky. we're going to show you where the storm called ida is and where it's going, folks. also, a major change in the medical condition of the army officer suspecteded of opening fire in ft. hood, texas. and a west virginia boy finds himself face-to-face with a would-be car jacker. the 9-year-old himself will tell you how he saved the day. well, sit back, relax, let us get you informed here, as you can enjoy your lunch. i'm christi paul, glad you're with us. you know, everyone along gulf coast bracing for tropical storm ida. here is the latest radar. it was downgraded from a

hurricane this morning, if you haven't heard, but still, forecasters say this could dump up to 8 inches of rain when it lakes landfall. so meteorologist bonnie snyder has been following this. and bonnie, a lot of people might think, oh, it's not a hurricane anymore. is it really that big of a deal and you're saying yeah. >> yeah, this is an intense tropical storm, christie, and wind damage could be very severe so now is the time to baton down the hatches, if you have anything loose in the backyard, bring it inside and be prepared for strong winds, especially along the gulf coast. not only window wind, but rain. right now, the movement is to the north-northwest at 18, and you're probably thinking, that cone of uncertainty is stretching to the east, and that's because tomorrow a turn to the east, to the right, is expected. so that means, really, this entire region is likely to see areas of wind damage and heavy rain. storm making its way on shore sometime in the early hours of tomorrow morning.

likely in the vicinity of month beal. but it doesn't necessarily matter exactly where the eye of the storm hits. the eye of the storm that is that circle right in the center. but really you can see the strongest winds on the left side of the quadrant of the storm, so we'll be watching that all along the gulf coast. so tropical storm wind warnings. these are flash flood watches in place, and even these parishes in louisiana are ready for wind and possibly flood damage. but the heaviest rain will move along the path of the storm, and that will continue for not just later on into the evening hours, but also tomorrow, as well. notice some of the heaviest rain all the way inland up into birmingham, alabama. atlanta, georgia could see several inches of rain. and because of that, we have flood watches posted. likely, these will change over to warnings into tomorrow. very heavy rain expected for this region, and also back out as far west as texas because the storm is pretty wide. here is what to expect as we break it down for the next 12 to

24 hours. possibly coastal flooding, power outages likely due to the intense winds. and this is headed toward the mid atlantic, so as we go through the next couple days, we'll see the wind and rain. christie, hopefully it will die down in intensity by that time. >> thank you very much for the late latest. the suspect in the ft. hood shootings, major nidal hasan is now conscious and talking at a hospital in san antonio. officials aren't saying whether he is talking about the rampage it is. 16 victims are in the hospital and 7 in intensive care. the commander at f hood is focused on helping victims to heal. and wants to prevent any future outbursts of violence. >> i think what's really important to remember is that hasan was a soldier, and we have other soldiers that might have some of the same stress and indicators that he has, and we have to look across our entire formation, not just in if a

medical community, but really look hard to our right and left, and that's a responsibility of everybody to the top to the bottom to make sure we're taking care of our own. >> the fbi is expected to look into whether major hasan ever met with two of the 9/11 hijackers. that's from the "associated press." and it says the hijackers attended the same virginia mosque where the funeral was held for hasan's mother in 2001. the "washington post" is reporting investigators are looking at any ties between hasan and a radical islamic leader who preached at that mosque. . there are growing signs that hasan was embracing islamist ideas. classmates from a military college said they complained about what he said he believed, including suicide bombings, and reportedly told classmates that islamic law supersedes the u.s. constitution. senator joe lieberman says they will start an investigation. >> the fbi is now investigating

the murder, but i think it's very important for the army and the department of defense to go back and conduct a separate, independent of whether there were warning signs. doctor hasan was given both of the stress he was under and the fact that he had become an islamist extremist. >> president obama and the first lady will attend a memorial service tomorrow for the victims of the ft. hood shootings. 13 people were killed, and we're going to have some of their stories for you in just a few minutes and throughout the day, as well. so stay close for that. meanwhile, iran is charging three american hikers with espe an average. they have been held for three months for allegedly crossing into the country illegally. secretary of state hillary clinton says there is no evidence to support charges against shane bauer, sara shourd and josh fattal. the family members say they crossed the border mistakenly. a man wanted for questioning in the shooting deaths for three people in illinois is wanted for questioning.

shots rang out outside a convenience store saturday night. the store owner says the gunfire was directed at a car carrying three women and three kids. now, the three women were killed. the children weren't hurt. police say it was not a random act and say the violence may have been domestic in nature. no charges have been filed yet, but investigators are still looking for the suspect's car. the debate over health care reform is moving to the senate. not immediately here, though. the house approved a plan over the weekend. senate majority leader harry reid has his own proposal, though. like the house bill, it includes a government-run insurance program known as a public option. well, most senate republicans oppose that. so it will take all 60 members in the democratic caucus to bring a public option to a vote. one of them, independent joe lieberman of connecticut, says he will join a republican filibuster to block consideration of that bill. and we have this just in and want to share with you. the dow has hit a new 52-week high. energy is leading the market

higher. investors are also buying stocks on growing confidence about the global economic recovery, so you can see right there, we're up 178 points. dow sitting at 10,202 right now. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall! >> that wall did indeed come down. more than two years after that speech by president reagan, and 20 years ago today. these scenes symbolized the beginning and the end of communism in europe. there will be celebrations today in berlin. bon jovi, in fact, will perform and many world leaders will be there, as well, including secretary of state hillary clinton of the many and at the regular an presidential line area in california, a replica has been constructed next to a piece of the authentic, the genuine wall. a suspected car jacker thought it was pretty tough until he ran into a cagey 9-year-old kid.

well, the supreme court is hearing a case today that's raising some controversy. here it is. should juvenile offenders be put away for life without parole for crimes that don't involve a death? opponents say the punishment is cruel and unusual. opposite side of the coin, people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is even possible for juvenile repeat offenders. now, 109 juvenile inmates nationwide are serving life terms for nonhomicide offenses. so 70% of those, too, we have discovered, are inmates in florida. four years ago, the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. so richelle carey will be along in just a few minutes with your views on this story, and we can't wait to hear them. now, call it the gold rush of 2009. an ounce of gold is hitting record levels. but before you trade in your bling for cash, it pays to do your homework here. cnnmoney.com's poppy harlow started it for you.

>> that's 10 carat. >> it's not a jewelry store. >> that's 14 carat. . >> or a pawn shop. this is a party. a gold party. >> okay. who has got gold? >> i came, to be honest with you, because i needed cash. >> each piece is examined, and the gold content is measured. >> how much is it worth, bonnie? >> so what's grace's payday? it all depends on the purity and the weight of the gold, and most importantly, gold's current market value. >> grace, $315.18. >> wow. >> just collecting dust in the drawer. >> wow. >> how do you know if you're getting a good price? michael guskey, founder of gold fellow, the company running this party, has been in the gold business for more than 30 years. he says here you'll get 62% of the gold's value, and warns, you should never accept less than 50%. >> some of the largest companies in if this business are paying as little as 18, 20%, relative

to the price of gold. >> we were quoted $411 for this necklace at a gold party. but we hit the streets of new york in search of a better offer. >> so now we're here in what's known as the diamond district in manhattan, and we're going to go into some of these stories. as you see across the street here, they all say "we buy gold, we buy, we buy." so we're going to go in and try to see what they'll give us for this gold necklace. >> i just wanted to sell the neck lasso owe this necklace, but i don't know how much it's worth. >> about 500. >> about 500 bucks? >> i'd probably go to 20. >> you'd go to 620? >> yep. >> can i ask how much for this necklace? >> $630. >> $630. >> but the lowest offer was still to come. we headed to canal street in downtown manhattan. >> how much is it worth? >> i don't know.

you tell me. >> i have never sold a necklace. >> it's like 200. >> 200 bucks? 200 bucks. that was my offer in there. $200. and i said, is this a fair price, fair market value? he said, yes, very fair price. >> i don't know, what do you think, poppy harlow joining us now from new york. okay. so they range from $200 to $630 for the same necklace. that's a huge discrepancy. >> you're exactly right. all in a matter of minutes. and that last store that quoted me $200 for this necklace here, when i told them where i worked, that i worked for cnnmoney, he said let rerecalculate. it's actually worth $550. and that was his final offer. this goes to show you, exactly, lesson learned. first of all, haggle. and most importantly, know what you have. this is a 14-carat gold necklace, 58% gold, not pure gold. it's over $1,000 an ounce right

now. merrill lynch is predicting more over the next few months, so know what you're selling, be smart about it, folks, it can cost you hundreds if not thousands of dollars. the full story, us in the streets of new york trying to get the most we can for the gold all here on cnn money. >> that was awesome, poppy. thank you very much. >> thanks. >> just know the price of gold and you can do it for yourself, right? rihanna finally speaking about the night chris brown assaulted her. here the horrifying details and what brown is saying about that interview. all that with a.j. hammer in just a moment. stay close.

a memorial service will be held tomorrow for the 13 people killed at ft. hood. specialist fred greene was one, left behind a wife and two small children. friends and family called him freddie. they said he grew up in chump

and knew the bible like the back of his hand. >> many of his fellow soldiers have told us he was the quiet professional of the unit, never complaining about a job given and often volunteering when needed. >> it's a heart-breaking thing to know he's gone, the way he had to leave this world. but i'm sure he's in a better place. but i -- i hate -- you know, it's heart breaking. >> specialist greene was remembered at his parents' church yesterday and a veterans' memorial service in his community 55-year-old lieutenant wou iowa nita warman was married with two daughters and six grandchildren. this soldier talked about how he felt. >> angry, confused about why it happened.

now we're just trying to get through. it's going to take a while. i'm sure it's not going to hit us for weeks or months. because right now, there is just so much going on. but it was tough when i found out. it was tough for everybody. >> warman's family told "the pittsburgh post gazette" she had only been at ft. hood for 24 hours. she was being processed for deployment to iraq. want to smak sure you know more about some of these people here. a potential carjacking was stopped in west virginia by a 9-year-old. police say the boy pulled the keys out of the ignition when the suspect allegedly jumped into the car. the boy was in the car with his three younger brothers. while his mom was inside a store. >> somebody just came and opened the door, and tried to -- he told me to get out, but i didn't get out, and i -- yanked the keys out of the ignition, and i had them like this. and then he tried to get it. and he banged my head against the door. and then he got out and started running, and then he ran across

the street. >> the suspect is facing several charges, including kidnapping and auto theft. well, re rihanna detailing the attacks from chris brown, and brown has more to say about it, as well. let's get to a.j. hammer in new york. what is she talking about, a.j.? >> she is giving details to diane sawyer on 20/20. the only interview aired friday night. among the things she talked about, she cleared up the fact there was no alcohol involved that night. she said we didn't hear from her for so long because she was in denial over what happened and wanted it to go all away. and diane sawyer asked whether she count back and the count in the police report that she began to lose consciousness. watch what rihanna told diane sawyer. >> i didn't lose consciousness, but i definitely had difficulty breathing. >> what were you doing to fight

back? >> really, i was just trying to -- i just wanted it to stop. i just wanted it to stop. i was not interested in hurting him back. >> she is so brave for speaking out. now, a lot of us expressed interest, and the legions of chris brown fans saying rihanna must have had this coming. i thought that was terrible. diane asked what her response is to people saying that. let's watch that. >> it's ignorance. i can say that. because even if i hit him first, that makes it okay for him to do that to me? they kind of give an excuse for what he did. >> did you hit him? did you ever say to yourself, well, that was my fault? >> no. did i not hit him. it was an argument. >> i think a lot of people will learn from rihanna speaking out. again, i think so brave of her,

and i think she'll make a difference. >> i think a lot of people feel the same way you do, a.j., except maybe chris brown, because i have to wonder what his reaction is to that interview, specifically. >> he wins my idiot of the week award. listen to what chris brown told mtv about rihanna speaking out. he said this, while i respect rihanna's right to specifdiscus specific events, i feel the details should remain a private matter between us. i appreciate her support and wish her the best. i accept responsibility for my actions. apparently chris hasn't learned he lost the right to keep what happened to them private the moment he beat her up, christie. i think he is making a huge mistake. coming up on "showbiz tonight," much more on chris and his big mouth. should he just shut up already? you'll it at 11:00 p.m. pacific. >> i think we know how you feel. thank you very much. >> you'll hear more. >> can't wait. see you then. as always. bye-bye. you might remember the

13-year-old boy who ran away with his mom to avoid chemotherapy. his family said he finished his court-ordered treatment and is cancer free now. he cited religious beliefs. the judge says he'll close the case after he gets a doctors' report. we're back with your views in a moment.

right now, at an army hospital in texas, the officer accused of opening fire at ft. hood is awake and talking. at the same time, the post is preparing to honor those who died. samantha hayes is joining us from ft. hood. what are you learning there today? >> reporter: hi, christie. lieutenant general robert cone addressed reporters a short time ago and talked about the many, many people who have been affected by this tragedy and also had an introspective tone and said that in the army, they need to take a look at what they're doing to make sure that they don't miss signals, they don't miss indications from other soldiers who may perhaps

harbor the same types of feelings that major hasan had. >> i think what's really important is that hasan was a soldier. and we have other soldiers that -- that might have some of the same stress and indicators that he has, and we have to look across our entire formation, not just in the medical community, but really look hard to our right and left. and that's a responsibility of everybody from the top to the bottom to make sure we're taking care of our own. >> as the investigation continues, army officials, of course, have not wanted to comment on that. but friends and family of the suspect have talked about his very devout muslim views, and other things that he said, indicating great stress and strain that he had as an army man, and also with his religion. he felt there was a great conflict there, and investigators would be looking into how extreme his views were, and the fact if he acted alone or had some association with

various groups. now, a private this morning indicated to cnn that during the shooting the suspect before opening fire said al akbar which means in arabic, god is great. and he was getting ready to be deployed in january, he was shot in the left hip, he is recovering, but still wants to serve, wants to go to afghanistan when he was supposed to go in january, and will probably at the memorial service tomorrow. and christie, speaking of that, you can see the big storage containers behind me. those have been set up primarily for security, because this is a huge post. there are hundreds of acres, and there are tens of thousands of soldiers and civilian workers, and different personnel visitors who were here on post every day. they want to make sure they have this area secure. the president is going to be here, and other top officials. back to you. >> all right. thank you so much, samantha hayes, joining us there from ft. hood. we appreciate it very much. well, people along the gulf

coast, we know what you're doing today, bracing for tropical storm ida. downgraded from a hurricane today, because its winds decreased to 70 miles per hour. but still, forecasters say this is nothing to sneeze at, folks. it could dump up to 8 inches of rain when it makes landfall tomorrow, somewhere around mobile, alabama. it was 220 miles south-southwest of pens cola, florida, of course. tropical storm warnings are in effect from a 200 mile stretch from louisiana to florida. and governors of both states have declared states of emergency. so far, no mandatory evacuations have been ordered, but authorities in coastal areas are encouraging people near the water or mobile homes to please leave. a truck driver wasp killed this morning when he lost control on a new s-curve, part of the san francisco bay bridge. the highway patrol says it went over the bridge and fell 200 feet. it was still dark when the driver tried to make a turn at

50 miles per hour. this is the first fatality at the curve, however there have been 42 crashes just in the past two months. iran is charging three american hikers with espionage. they have been held for three months. secretary of state, hillary clinton, says there is no evidence to support charges against shane bauer, sara shourd or josh fattal. their families said they crossed the border mistakenly. a new bombshell in the caylee anthony case. a gatorade bottle found close to her remains contained a syringe and traces of chloroform and testosterone. authorities said there were traces of chloroform in casey anthony's car, but couldn't say whether it was a factor in her death. on hln's nancy grace, a medical expert said there is no way chloroform got into a syringe accidentally, and went on to

say, it was clearly intended to be injected into someone. he also said the presence of testosterone was an intriguing new factor. >> isn't that true that back in the '70s, chloroform was banned for consumer use? >> right. because of the side effects and how dangerous it is. so when i say -- >> what side effects? what side effects? >> the lethal side effects, the toxicity that was found to be associated with it, and the volatile state of it. so using it as on an aesthetic is very unreliable, so it was replaced with more modern and reliable medication. >> doctor deutsche, while i've still got you, how is testosterone or ethanol end up in there? >> this is a big mystery to me. i mean, testosterone is a hormone that's naturally found in the body. but it's also used by people who are abusing steroids for body building purposes or people who are maybe having gender reassignment. so i mean, they maybe should be looking for somebody who is using steroids or has that type

of predilection. >> tonight on nancy grace, caught on tape. a well thee florida housewife and mother tells a shocking story of being kidnapped and held captive. but did she orchestrate her own abduction. mountains of evidence, including a frantic 911 call, and a sec t secretsecre secretly recorded audio sex tape say it points to a hoax. so why is her husband standing by his wife? we'll have the latest right here on hln. 500 people turned out to remember the 11 women found dead at a house in cleveland. they marched with candles after a memorial service to the house where the women were found. anthony sowell lived there, accused of murder and rape. one of the bodies is telecia fortson, and her mom was there last night. >> as we stand here in front of this home, where we -- they found your daughter, what is that like for you? >> it's hard.

because i want to burn it down. i really would like to. it's very hard. you know, i -- that's why i won't look at it. >> why won't you look at it? >> because i know my baby was in there. and she got killed in there. you know? it's -- and it's hard. >> sowell's dna is being entered into a national database to see if he's connected to any unsolved cases. there he is. his lawyer requested he put on suicide watch in jail. . today, the supreme court refused to block the execution of john allen mohammed, one of the d.c. area snipers. the execution now set for tomorrow night. now, back in 2002, remember, i know you remember this, mohammed shot at least 20 people in washington, d.c., and maryland and virginia. five in a single day. and ten of those victims died. he is due to be executed at 9:00 eastern for the killing of a man at a virginia gas station. mohammed's younger accomplice,

lee boyd malveaux is serving life in prison. the health care bill moving to the senate. the house approved a plan over the weekend, as you know. senate majority leader, harry reid, has his own proposal. like the house bill, it includes a government-run insurance program known as a public option. most senate republicans oppose that. so it's going to take all 60 members of the democratic caucus to bring a public option to a vote. one of them, independent joe lieberman of connecticut says he'll join a republican filibuster to block consideration of that bill. . want to bring you pictures of a mock berlin ball lined up like domino's being knocked down through the formerly divided city. this is just moments ago. isn't that something to see? today marks the 20th anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall, and thousands -- thousands, as you can see, are there to celebrate it.

20 years ago today, the berlin wall came down, freeing eastern europe from communist rule and marking the beginning of the cold war. several are planning to mark the historic occasion. here it is again for you, a mock berlin wall lined up like domino's knocked down the formerly divided city. and here is a scene from the ronald reagan presidential library in had simi valley, california. they invited students to paint their inspirational messages on its 32-foot replica, and a fifth grade class tore down the wall today. you see them there trying to knock it down.

now, those lucky enough to be in berlin during the fall of the wall say they will never forget the moment in history that changed the world. a british woman, in fact, who lived close to the wall took these pictures of her smiling boys, look at that, after chunks of it were chipped away. margaret marunke said her living room looked over the wall and they could see the east german border guards in their tower. looking back, she says she hasn't imagine how they lived such a depressing sight. she says when she found out what was happening with the wall, she fought back tears while racing hem to catch the news. she said people were celebrating and trying to take it all in. she says there was also a sense of apprehension, though, such as was there all for real, would it last? marunke says she is incredibly lucky to have experienced it all, and we're glad she shared it with us.

ireport.com has its own version of the berlin wall on its home page today, a mosaic of photos and videos all related to the historic event. constantly being updated by our i-report team. check it out. amazing stories there. and send us your own when you have -- images of breaking news. click the upload now link, easy instructions there. thanks for doing so. the supreme court is hearing a case today that is raising some controversy. should juvenile offenders be put away for life without parole for crimes that do not involve a death. opponents say the punishment is cruel and unusual. people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile repeat offenders. and we should let you know, 109 juvenile inmates nationwide are serving life terms for nonhomicide offenses. now, 70% of those inmates, by the way, are in florida. four years ago, the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. so we want your views on this. do you think that the court system should be able to

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a 70-year-old man was shot dead over the weekend at a bar in veail, colorado. this is the first homicide in the posh ski resort in decades. 63-year-old richard moro is charged with murder and is expected to make his first appearance today. he was a regular at the sandbar

sports grill and apparently became irate saturday night and was being escorted out the front door when he alleged hee pulled out a gun and opened fire. >> first shot, nobody really knew what happened. we thought he threw a chair or something. we heard the second one, and okay, that's gunfire. it's hard to count when you're running, but it sounded like they were keeping on coming. i tightened my belt on there, until the ambulance came to check on him. >> the two other people who were injured in the shooting were taken to area hospitals of. a potential carjacking was stopped in west virginia by a 9-year-old boy. police say the boy pulled the keys out of the ignition when the suspect allegedly jumped into the car. the boy was in his car with his three younger brothers while his mom was inside a store. >> somebody just came and opened the door, and tried to -- he told me to get out, but i didn't get out. and he yanked the keys out of

the ignition, and i had them like this. and then he tried to get it, and he banged my head against the door. and then he got out and started running, and then he ran across the street. >> the suspect is facing several charges, including kidnapping and auto theft. glad the little kids are okay. i know a lot of us are looking for safe places to put our money right now. hln money expert clark howard says one popular investment is actually a bad deal. he tells you how to grow your money with less risk and lower fees. >> one of the hot investment products in the marketplace is something that i don't consider to be an investment at all. it's an insurance thing called a variable annuity. it's where you have an insurance type policy with something kind of like mutual funds in it. why do i dislike these so much? because the expenses for you to pay to have one of these are massive. humongous commissions. and then on top of it, the amount of your money that stays with you is shrunken so much by

the fees you have to pay. according to the "wall street journal," the fees you pay are 3 to 3.5% of your money each year. by comparison, if you buy something i really love, ultra low cost index funds, the expenses in that are 1/30 of what they are in a variable annuity. that 1/30 means a lot more money stays with you each year than going to the insurance company. i'm clark howard. for more ways i want you to keep your money in your wallet, go to cnn.com/cla cnn.com/clarkhoward. >> you can catch clark howard every saturday at noon and 4:00 p.m. here on hln news and views. an online price war over dvds, just in time for the holidays which is good news in a bad economy. walmart and amazon.com are selling preorders for some of

the most anticipated new dvds for $10 or less. here is one example for you. harry potter and the half blood prince. this price is $29. you can buy it online for 9. $9. have at it, $9.98. have at it. people caught with child pornography on their computers might claim they aren't the ones who put it there. many say it's a computer virus. sometimes they're right. an investigation determines there are viruses that down load child porn onto computers without the owners ever knowing it. some are distributed by real pedophiles who then use the corrupted computers as remote storage for their own collections of illegal videos and pictures. the ap found some of the viruses were planted by people playing pranks or trying to frame someone again. one family is reeling after the shipping company decided to close shop. food network hoeps rachel ray has brought new furniture and

apla appliances for a soup kitchen there. she put an early thanksgiving dinner on the table yesterday for this huge crowd. it didn't stop there. >> traditional thanksgiving dinner. the same i make at my house every year. aside from just throwing a nice big thanksgiving supper we're stocking the food pantry for a full year. we have job counselors out front helping people with their resumés and to get them online and get them thinking about how to find work. >> the decision left 8,000 people out of work in wilmington. ohio ha one of the highest job let rates in the country. and there it goes. the implosion of a seven-story hotel in kentucky. hundreds of people turned out to watch this thing tumble down yesterday morning. the city hasn't decided what to do with the 20 acres of land that it used to sit on. a man in brazil -- you are

not going to be believe this one -- crashed his own funeral. he did it during latin america's day of the dead observances. plus, passengers say they were forced to pray before getting off a city bus. @@@@@

>> people along the u.s. gulf coast are boarding up windows, watching the sky, looking at the weather forecast. where ida, a former hurricane, is and where it's headed. they were having fun on their ad vengtuventure on the bf iraq. now they're in serious trouble. and a west virginia boy, a 9-year-old finds himself face-to-face with a would-be car jacker. but he saves the day. the man accused of the bloody shooting spree in ft. hood, texas, is now conscious and talking in a military hospital in san antonio. officials are not saying whether major nidal hasan has talked to

investigators. 13 people were killed in the attack last week. 15 other victims are still in the hospital. half of them in intensive care. the commander at ft. hood didn't get into the investigation when he briefed reporters today. he said he's focused on helping the victims and the post heal. >> our initial focus in these last three days is really been working on getting them the kind of behavioral assessments and behavioral counseling for the kinds of traumatic stress incidents that they've been through. and we are working that very hard as it becomes appropriate in terms of the soldiers' protocol of care and in regard to larger pop lags. they're expected to look into weather major hasan ever met with the two hijackers. they attended the same mass where the funeral was kconducte

for miz mother in 2001. there are growing signs hasan was embracing extremists ideas about islam. classmates as a military college says they complained about his antiamerican views including a presentation that seemed to justify suicide bombing. he told classmates that islamic law supercedes the constitution. senator joe lieberman says he'll start an investigation. >> we are investigating the murder. but i think it's very important for the army and the department of defense to go back and conduct a separate independent investigation if whether there are warning signs dr. hasan was giving of the stress he was under and the fact he had become an islamic extremist. >> president obama and the first lady will attend a memorial service tomorrow for the victims of the ft. hood shootings. 13 people were killed. we'll have some of their

individual stories in a few minutes. in fact, throughout the day. iran is charging three u.s. hikers who allegedly crossed into the country illegally with espionage. sec stair of the state clinton says there's no evidence to support charges against them. a hiker's family says they crossed the unmarked frontier by in addition take. the debate over health care reform is moving now to the senate. but not right away. the house approved a plan late in the night saturday. most senate republicans oppose that. it will take all 60 members of the democratic caucus to bring a public option to a vote. one is independent joe lieberman of connecticut. he says he'll join blocking consideration of the bill. people along the gulf coast have their work cut out for

them. a tropical storm, and a very wet one, bearing down. where and how rainy will it be? bonnie schneider joins us with the latest on the storm. they think may believe mobile bay. >> that will be a spot we're watching for possibly land fall. that means when the scepter of the storm or eye of the storm passes over land. tropical storm forced winds extend pretty far out into the storm. so that is why we have tropical storm wind warnings in effect for a good portion of the gulf coast. you can see clouds work their way in the region. winds are at 70. gusts are higher than that. it curves and turns suddenly to the east, to the right, by the time the storm makes landfall tomorrow. will it do the turn before

landfall. the cone stretches out into the f early on tuesday morning. these tropical systems are very, very tricky. we'll be watching closely to see the track. ida is producing very intense winds. the wind warnings will stay in place for the next day or so tuesday into winz we're watching for a rain swath. look how far north this goes, all the way up to charlotte, north carolina, up top six inches of rain. so getting more rain. so much so soon is not a good thing. it's likely to cause flooding problems as we go into the next day or so. the flash flood watches are in place. we're watching for the potential of power outages. be prepared for that. have batteries in your flashlights as well as watching out for flooding rains. a lot of people tried to pass

through some of the waters covering the roadways. may just be a few inches, but that's all it takes to dislodge a vehicle. everybody be careful. >> is it a fast mover? >> the storm has picked up in speed. once it comes on land it will be the slow movement of the rain that will progress all the way to wednesday and thursday. so initially, yes, it's a fast mover. it will slow down a bit once it makes contact with land. >> yi can't imagine that much rain. people using shovels, even their bare hands are frantically digging through debris in the hopes of finding survivors. around 7,000 homes were damaged by mud slides and flood waters. nearly 14,000 people are staying in shelters. should minors be sentenced to life terms with no chance of parole for a crime that doesn't include death? that's the issue before the u.s. supreme court today, and you, too, your views.

>> the u.s. supreme court is hearing arguments that raise controversial. should juvenile offenders be put away for life without parole for a crime that doesn't involve a killing? opponents say the punishment is cruel and unusual. people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for repeat juvenile offenders. 70% of them are in florida. four years ago the high court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. >> could be several months before the supreme court makes its ruling on this. we don't have to wait to hear what you think. is it cruel and unusual to lock up kids for life? richelle carey is joining us to showcase your views. >> if i had to guess right now from looking over the comments i would say there's probably a slight age to people who say if you do the crime, you got to do

the time. there's a strong contention that say, no, i don't think you need to throw kids away if they commit a crime. they do believe in rehabilitation. i got a caller on the phone. sean is calling from houston. i understand that you've done time before. that's the perspective you're coming from. what do you think about sending juvenile offenders to prison for the rest of their life if the crime they committed is not murder? what do you think? >> caller: i personally feel that would be a personal punishment. you are told during any court case -- they ask the jury to not be personal. to just look at the facts, view the facts, understand the facts. >> when you say personal, people are acting on emotion when they do that? >> caller: correct. to punish a 13-year-old for the rest of their life for a crime unrelated to death is a personal punishment, i truly believe that's a personal punishment.

>> so do you think there are juvenile offenders that commit rape and other crimes that are heino heinous, you think some of the youthful offenders can be rehabilitated? >> i do believe they can be rehabilitated. especially at a teenage age. they have so much ahead of them that can be viewed and you can show them, yes, what you did was severe. what you did was severe. but if you can show us that you are truly sorry for what you did, you are willing to commit the rest of your life to being a better person, then we should allow you to be given that chance and to be reinserted if you do in fact go through with that process of trying to show people? >> sean, thank you for your phone call. i appreciate it. i got a lot of comments on my facebook page. some of you are having a real

discussion. francheska put if you can jump in as well. do the crime, do the time, period. i refuse to feel sorry for someone just because they're a kid. obviouslily they're old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. locking them up and punishing them will make them think twice about committing more crimes. you have a comment as well. >> i do. i've got a couple dozen. here's one from nicole. >> we want your views. should the court system be able to send its children to life in prison for serious crimes that don't involve killing anyone? still serious crimes. e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. call us right now at

1-877-tell-hln. text us. go to our facebook pages. some people don't agree with calling them children anymore once they commit the crimes. that's how emotional some people are about the topic. >> the law makes some allowances for immaturity. good comments. thanks. a suspected car jacker thought he was tough until he ran into a 9-year-old. how that child put the brakes on the criminal.

>> we should never lose sight of the people behind the numbers in a case like the ft. hood shootings. we would like to share details of the lives lost. 21-year-old private michael pearson wanted to study musical theory. hoped his military stint would pay for college. he was truly living life when he played his guitar. sergeant amy krueger joined the military after the 9/11 attacks. her friends say she was one of best people you could ever meet. also aaron nemelka.

his family said he was excited to be deploying to afghanistan in january. 56-year-old john gaffaney worked for two decades helping elderly victims of abuse and neglect. he arrived the day before the shooting to prepare for deployment to iraq. a former coworker remembers him fondly. >> everyone knows that loved him here that he was doing what he wanted to. he want food be where he was. he was driven to make a difference. >> we're going to share details on more of the victims in the next half hour. a man wanted for questioning in the shooting deaths of three women in illinois. the gunfire was directeded at a car carrying three women and three kids. the three women were killed. the children were unhurt. the man is an ex-boyfriend of one of the women and the father of two of the kids.

investigators are still looking for the suspect's car. a strange twist in the house of horrors case in cleveland. we've learned the niece of frank jackson used to live with anthony sowell. the jackson spokesman said their relationship ended two years ago. it isn't clear if the relationship was romantic in nature. yesterday some 500 people gathered. one of the seven bodies identified so far is telicia fortson. her mom was there last night. >> as we stand here in front of this home where they found your daughter, what is that like for you? >> it's hard. because i want to burn it down. i really would like to. it's very hard. i won't look at it. >> why won't you look at it? >> because i know my baby was in there. and she got killed in there.

>> again, the man accused in the case, anthony sowell, is a registered sex offender. his dna has been entered into a national data base. his lawyer requested he be placed on suicide watch in jail. today the supreme court refused to block the execution of john muhammad, one of the dc area snipers. age execution set for tomorrow night. in 2002 he shot at least 20 people in washington, d.c., maryland, and virginia. five in a single day. ten victims died. he's due to be executed at 9:00 eastern time tomorrow evening for the killing of a man at a virginia gas station. a sniper hit. muhammad's younger accomplice is serving life in prison. the fbi is releasing documents suggesting a gatorade bottle found near caylee's remains contained a syrnge with

traces of chloroform and testosterone. they couldn't say if it was a factor in her daughter's death. she's charged with first-degree murder. a medical expert said there's no way chloroform got in the syringe on accident. he says the presence of tes testosterone. >> because of the side effects. >> what side effects? >> if tox sis it and the volatile state of it. using it is very unreliable. it was ve placed with more modern and more reliable medications. >> why i still have you, how would testosterone or ethanol end up in there.

>> it's naturally found in the body. it's also used by people using steroids for body building purposes or people with gender reassignment. maybe they should be looking for somebody using steroids or has that type of -- >> tonight nancy grace caught on tape. a wealthy housewife and mother tells a shocking story of being kidnapped and held captive. did she orchestrate her own abduction. mountains of evidence including a frantic 911 call and secretly recorded audio sex tape involved. why is her husband standing by his wife? nancy has answers tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 eastern here on hln. a trucker was killed when he lost control on the new s-curb that leads into the san francisco bay bridge. the highway patrol said the rig went over the side and fell 200 feet. it was still dark when the driver tried to make the turn. that's the first fatality. officials say there have been 42

crashes in the last two months. a potential car jacking stopped by a 9-year-old in west virginia. police say the boy pulled the keys out of the ignition when the suspect jumped into the car. he was in the car with his three younger brothers while his mom was inside a store. >> somebody just came and opened the door, and tried to -- he told me to get out. i didn't get out. i yanked the keys out of the ignition. i had them like this. and then he tried to get it, and he banged my head against the door. he got out and started running. then he ran across the street. >> what a brave kid, huh? the suspect is facing several charges. remember the 13-year-old boy who ran away with his home to avoid chemo? he's now finished if and is cancer free. a judge says he'll probably close the case after he gets a doctor's report. bus stop blessings.

a bad thing? passengers said they were forced to pray before they could get you have a bus in atlanta. how one of them felt after that.

the man accused is conscious and talking at the military hospital in san antonio. officials aren't saying whether hasan has talked to investigators. 13 people were killed in the attack. 29 were wounded. 15 victims are still in the hospital. half in intensive care. if commander at ft. hood did not get into the investigation when he briefed reporters. he's focused on helping the vims. robert cohn made a pledge to look for danger signs in soldiers under stress. >> i think it's important than hasan was a soldier.

we have other soldiers that might have some of the same stress and indicators that he has. we have to look across the entire formation. not just in a medical community, but really look hard to our right and left. and that's a responsibility of everybody from the top to bottom to make sure we're taking care your own. the fbi is looking into hasan ever met with two of the 9/11 hijackers. they attended the same virginia mosque where the funeral for hasan's mother was held in 2001. they're looking for ties between hasan and the radical islamic cleric who breeched at the the mosque and is now in the middle east. president obama will attend the memorial service for the victims of the ft. hood shootings. 13 people consider killed. we'll hear about some of their personal are profiles in just a few minutes and throughout the day.

today the u.s. supreme court refused to block the execution of john mouhammad. in late 2002 he shot at least 20 people in washington, d.c., maryland, and virginia. five in a single day. ten victims died. he's due to be executed at 9:30 p.m. eastern. a 70-year-old man was shot dead over the weekend at a bar in colorado. it's the first homicide there in two decades or several decades. witnesses say the vietnam vet was a regular at the sports grill. he became i rat saturday and was being escorted out the front door when he pull ad gun and opened fire. >> we thought he threw a chair at the window. we knew there was a fight on the

other side of bar. >> it's hard to kound while you're running. they seemed like they kept coming. >> i found a man holding another guy. he had been shot in the arm. >> put my belt on, tightened it down and held it there. two other people were injured in the shooting, taken to area hospitals 6789. a man wanted for questioning in the shooting deaths of three women in illinois is wanted. the store owner says the gunfire was directed at a car carrying three women and three kids. the three women were killed. the children were not hurt. local media report the man is an ex-boyfriend of one of the women and the father of two of those kids. they fired several rounds at an apartment complex and killed a 7-year-old girl while she slept. the girl was asleep in the living room when a stray bullet

pierced the apartment walls before dawn on sunday and struck her in the neck. >> this, you know, child was lying in the living room on an air mattress with a cousin and it wasn't until the child began crying that alerted the mother and the other child and that's when she discovered her daughter had a gunshot wound in her neck. >> the whole thing is like totally ridiculous. it's sad. i mean a 7-year-old killed over something like whatever was going on out here. >> just horrific. it truly is. investigators are asking anybody with information to call the crime stoppers hot line. . a strange twist in the house of horrors case in cleveland. the niece of the mayor of cleveland, frank jackson, used to live with murder suspecten anthony sowell. a jackson spokesman said the relationship ended two years ago. it's not clear if it was romantic in nature. yesterday some 500 people

marched with candles after a memorial service for the 11 women whose remains were found at sowell's home. he's accused of murder and rape. one of the seven bodies identificationed so far, her mom was there last night. >> as we stand here in front of this home where they found your daughter, what is that like for you. it's very hard. that's why i won't look at it. >> why won't you look at it? >> because i know my baby was in there. she got killed in there. >> his lawyer has requested that he be placed on suicide watch in jail. the wrong way driver was seen vomiting on the side of the

road twice before the deadly crash. that's what the new york post said witnesses told investigators. diane schuler stopped to throw up in day of the crash. she, her daughter and three nieces died in the crash. three men in the car she hit also died. a relative of the men called the latest revelation outrageous. alleging she kept drinking and smoking pot after vomiting. she had undigested alcohol in her system. a a pathologist says that doesn't necessarily meant she kept on drinking. people along the gulf coast are bracing from for the worse. it's now around 70. forecasters say it could dump eight inches of rain when it makes land fall tomorrow, early, probably around mobile bay. at last report iga was 220 miles south, southwest of pensacola, florida.

they have declared states of emergency and flood wary georgia is getting ready to get another soaking. so far no mandatory evacuations were ordered. authorities in coastal areas are encouraging people near the water or in mobile homes to leave. dozens of people are missing in el salvador floonds and landslides have left people dead. people are frantically digging through debris in the hopes of finding survivors. around 7,000 homes were damaged by mudslides and flood waters. emergency officials say nearly 14,000 people are staying in shelters. medical repothey thought th dead, but he walked in and joined them at his own funeral.

the supreme court is today hearing arguments. should juvenile ochbffenders wh are not guilty of killing anybody be put away for life without parole. people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile repeat offenders. 109 juvenile inmates nationwide are serving a life term with no parole. 70% in florida alone. fo we love your views on this. should the system be able to sentence children to life in prison for a serious crime that doesn't involve a killing? the e-mail address, cnn.com/hln. toll free, 877-835-5456.

standard text rates apply. the fall of the berlin wall was a watershed moment in the 20th century, marking the beginning of the end of european kmu in addition. people began pouring through the wall on november 9, 1989. family and friends divided for a generation reunited. those lucky enough to be in berlin during the fall of the wall said they'll never forget the moment in history that changed the world. a british woman took these pictures of her smiling boys

after chunks of it were chipped away. her living room looked right over the wall. they could see the east german border guards in their tower. she says looking back she can't imagine how they managed to live with such a depressing site. . when she found out what was happening she fought back tears while racing home to catch the news. she said that evening people were celebrating trying to take it all in. there was also a sense of apprehension. was this really going to happen? would it last? check out amazing stories and contribute your own. send us your stories, your images, breaking news wherever you are. upload now link is where you look. that's the icon. the man walked into his own funeral. really. shocked relatives tried to jump

out of the funeral home's windows after seeing him approach alive. this happened on the holiday known as the day of the dead. family members and friends mistakenly i.d.'d a body from a car crash. it was wearing the same kind of clothes as the man. he said he spent the night drinking at a bar near the crash site. it's no wonder so many people are looking to sell their trinkets and treasures with the price of gold soaring. >> i just wanted to sell the necklace, this necklace. >> pop poppy harlow goes undercover to check out the we buy gold offers to see if you're in danger of being ripped off.

iran is charging three american hikers, young hikers with espionage. they've been held for more than three months for allegedly crossing into the country illegally. secretary of state clinton says there's no evidence to support

charges against the three. the hikers' families said they crossed the unmarked frontier by mistake. today we would like to share a little bit about the victims of the rampage at ft. hood last thursday. specialist jason hunt was recently married and about to head to iraq for the second time. his sister says the 22-year-old wanted to serve other people and lived more something greater than himself. 21-year-old francheska velez was transferred to ft. hood last week because she was pregnant. the loss is doubly hard because it came at the hands of one her own. fred greene was 29 with a wife and two small children. he group up in church and knew the bible like the back of his hand. he joined the army after the company where he worked shut down. >> many of his fellow soldiers told us he was the quiet professional of the unit. never clomplaining about a job given. >> it's heartbreaking to know he's gone. the way he had to leave this

world. but i'm sure he's in a better place. but i hate, you know -- it's heartbreaking. >> also killed private cha cham xiong was prepping for his first deployment to afghanistan. he was the father of three children and very loving. michael cahill just returned to work a week after heart surgery. he liked his job so much he couldn't stand to be away. people caught with child pornography on their computers often claim they're not the ones wo put it there. many say it was a computer virus and sometimes they're right. an a.p. investigation determined there are viruses that download child porn onto computers without the owner knowing anything about it. some are distributed by real pedophiles who use the corrupted computers as remote storage devices for their own collections of illegal video and pictures. they found some of the viruses were planted by people playing pranks or trying to frame

someone on a child opornography charge. gas prices are still on the rise. the survey says the average price of unleaded is now $2.68. up the three cents from october 23rd. up 39 cents from this time a year ago. before you trade in your gold for cash, do your homework. cnnmoney.com has started the homework for you. >> we took this gold necklace to the streets of new york and to a gold pearlt to see what we could get. we were shocked by some of the bids. take a look. >> that's ten karat. >> this is a party. a gold party. >> who's got gold?

>> i came to be honest with you because i needed cash. >> each piece is examined and the gold con tentd tent is meas. what's grace's payday. it depends on the purity and weight of the gold own the current market value. >> grace, $315.18. >> after collecting dust in the drawer. >> how do you know if you're getting a good price? michael, founder of the company running this party has been in the gold business for more than 30 years. he says here you'll get 62% of the gold's value. and warns you should never accept less than 50%. >> some of the largest companies in this business are paying as little as 18%, 20% relative to the price of gold. we were quoted $411 for this necklace. now we're in the diamond

district of manhattan. we're going to some of the stores, some of the establishments. they all say, we buy gold. we buy, we buy, as you see over see what they'll give us off of this gold necklace. >> reporter: but the lowest offer was still to come. we headed to canal street in downtown manhattan. 200 bucks. that was my offer in there. $200. and i said, is this a fair

price, fair market value? he said, yes, a very fair price. >> oh, it's so easy to get ripped off. poppy is live from new york. $200 to $630, what a difference? >> reporter: in the matter of a day, it was just unbelievable. the story where they offered me $200 for this necklace, then i told him i work for cnn money and he said let me recalculation. it's actually $550. $350 difference because i said we work for the media. here's the lesson learned. do your home work. this is a 14 karat gold necklace, so it's only 58% gold. today gold is trading near record highs. know what it's worth before you make any deal. you can lose hundreds or thousands of dollars if you don't do your home work first. more of that story and more of the undercover investigation right there on cnnmoney.com. >> great story. what a bizarre bazaar. wall street, what a day, the

dow surging to a year long high. investors upbeat probably because g-20 finance ministers promise to keep finance plans in place. 52-week high about 200 points.

there you have it. cheap money. it's cause for celebration on wall street. the stock market is on a four-day winning streak, in part because the u.s. dollar is taking a beating. why should that put a boost in the stock prices? stephanie elam joins us from new york. we thought we'd start things different because those are big numbers to look at, stephanie. >> reporter: i know. we have some of these big numbers and you want to talk early. i like it. i like being the hot girl on wall street right now, i guess. right. stocks are continuing the winning ways after the dow jones industrials soared to the highest level in a year. stocks rallied following an agreement by g-20 nations to

keep investments in place. investors saw that as a signal the interest rate would remain low and the dollar would struggle. thanks to growing confidence about the economic recovery. we like it when the graph looks like that. the dow jones industrials gaining 204 points to 10,227, up 2%. we're back at our highs of the year. that's the latest, richelle. >> all right. we will take it, for sure. yes, you're the hot girl all the time, stephanie. and you're smart and now to explain all that stuff to us. thanks. >> thank you. people from florida, louisiana are getting ready for tropical storm ida. it's downgraded from a hurricane this morning. still, forecasters say it could dump heavy rain. we brought in meteorologist bonnie schneider to get us some of the details on this. still a big deal, though. >> absolutely. it is a strong tropical storm. and the storm is actually moving pretty quickly, which means landfall likely will occur

sometime overnight, possibly in the very early hours of tomorrow morning. even though the storm hasn't made landfall we're already seeing strong wind and waves across much of the gulf coast but the actual center of circulation not quite onshore. when we call official landfall, it means the center of the eye passes over land, whether it's a bare island or the actual gulf coast itself. here's the track. notice that sharp turn to the east. that's because a frontal boundary will actually steer ida away from the west moving it more towards the panhandle of florida. very important to know for folks in the southeast where we've had a lot of rain already over the past month or so. it's not only going to be rain. it's wind. tropical storm force wind advisory stretches all the way to the southern parishes of louisiana, including new orleans, because of the brutal winds expected. batten down the hatches. be prepared for the strong winds before they come in. you should also be prepared for very heavy rain particularly in the southeast. big cities, atlanta, charlotte. even birmingham will see between three and six, maybe eight inches of rain just from one

storm that will move a little slower as it passes over land and heads in the direction of the northeast. in anticipation of that, starting late tonight, look for that rain to work its way into central alabama, into georgia, and then all the way into north carolina. tuesday and wednesday. and eventually the mid-atlantic as it will be on the move. here's what you can expect as we break it down for you. coastal flooding, particularly at the time of high tide. three to six feet above normal. flooding rains, power outages. and as the storm comes up the mid-atlantic, we're likely to see more wind and rain, though it should weaken in intensity as it interacts with land. tomorrow's map does show the storm works its way further to the east than where it is now, which is right here, south of areas into alabama. so it will turn and eventually bring a lot of heavy rain to the southeast. the rest of the country looking good and calm, but ida is on the move. as you mentioned, even though it's a tropical storm, it's a strong one. so we have to keep our eye on it overnight tonight and certainly into tomorrow. >> doesn't mean let your guard

down, that's for sure. the man accused in that bloody shooting at ft. hood, he is now conscious and talking at a military hospital in san antonio. officials are not saying whether major nidal hasan has talked to investigators, though. 13 people were killed in that attack last week, 15 others still in the hospital, half in intensive care. the had commander of ft. hood didn't get into the investigation when he talk to reporters today. he says he's focused rather on the victims and the post to heal. >> our initial focus in these last three days has really been working on getting them the kind of behavioral assessments and behavioral counseling for the kind of traumatic stress, incidents that they've been through. and we are working that very hard as it becomes appropriate in terms of the soldier's protocol of care and then in regard to the larger populations. >> president and first lady will attend a memorial tomorrow for

the victims of the shootings. we'll have some of their stories in a few minutes. iran is charging three u.s. hikers who allegedly crossed into the country illegally with espionage, that's from a senior iranian prosecutor. secretary of state hillary clinton says there's no evidence to support the charges against shane bauer, sarah shourd and josh fattal. they were detained back in july. the hikers' family say they crossed the unmarked border between iraq and iran by mistake. dozens of people missing in el salvador where floods and landslides have left at least 134 people dead. people are using shovels and bare hands frantically digging through the debris in hopes of finding survivors. around 7,000 homes have been damaged by the mudslides and all the flooding. emergency officials say nearly 14,000 people are staying in shelters right now. look at that. berlin's brandenburg gate is the

scene of a celebration marking 20 years since the city began coming together. the fall of the berlin wall was a watershed moments in the 20th century marking the beginning of the end for european communism. former soviet leader mikhail gorbachev are is there for the celebration and the current russian president and the secretary of state hillary clinton. people began pouring through check points in the wall november 9th, 1989. spontaneous celebrations erupted as families and friends divided for a generation reunited. should minors be sentenced to life terms with no chance of parole for a crime that does not include death? that's the issue today for the supreme court and for you.

the supreme court is hearing a case today that is raising some controversy, some emotional controversy. should you've mile offenders be

put away for life for crimes that don't involve had killing someone? opponents say the punishment is cruel and unusual. people that support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile repeat offenders. 109 juvenile inmates all across the country are serving life terms for nonhomicide officials. had 70% are in florida four years ago, the court struck down the death penalty for juveniles. this is best your views question all day. we've gotten a lot of passionate responses on both sides. here is one from tim. he gave us a comment on "your views" cam. >> my issue what's happening as far as the supreme court, i believe there's an eighth amendment here. the reason i say that is the purpose of juvenile offenders, i believe, is to actually either to rehabilitate -- i mean, i think they should draw a balance between punitive actions and

whether or not the sentence is appropriate. i don't necessarily condone their behavior, not knowing what the facts of the case were extensively. but i do believe that i think the supreme court should draw a balance between what's happening here. and i think being sentenced to life is i think a little bit inappropriate. >> all right. ari sent us this, an e-mail, all right. it says -- cole in michigan says -- but sherry is calling from california. sherry says she doesn't think that we're consistent in treating young people as adults. sometimes we do, sometimes we

don't. sherry, go ahead and make your point. >> caller: i just think it's ridiculous for the society to treat a 15-year-old or 14-year-old like a child and say they're not old enough to vote, to drive, to drink, basically have adult privileges, yet we want to turn around and give them adult consequences? that's adult standards. >> can you understand how a crime victim might say that they chose to act as an adult when they chose to commit a heinous crime, so they took that among themselves? we only have a few seconds but can you understand where the crime victim might be coming from? >> i do understand. it's just we're not giving them the same rights as an adult. i don't think it's fair to give them the same punishment as adults. >> thank you for calling in. we've been listening to your views. should the court system be able to sentence juveniles to life in prison. call us right now 1-877-tell-hln. text hlntv and also jump into

the discussion on my facebook page to search richelle carey hln if you're in facebook. we really appreciate your feedback on this. oil prices may be falling but gas prices are on the rise. a lundberg survey says the average price of regular gasoline is now $2.68. that's up three cents from october 23rd. and 39 cents from this time last year. lundberg says it's likely prices are at a peak and should fall soon as long as oil prices don't start to rise. first it was books. now there's an online price war over dvds, just in time for the holidays. that's good news in a bad targe are selling preorders for some of the most anticipated for ten bucks or less. an example, harry potter and the half blood prince. the list price, supposed to be 29 bucks. you can get it online for $9.98. a man in brazil crashed his

own funeral. if that wasn't freaky enough, this happened during latin america's day of the dead observance. there's a story behind this unbelievable scare.

police in river ridge, louisiana, are looking for the person who fired several shots at an apartment complex, killing a 7-year-old girl while she was sleeping. investigators say the girl was asleep in the living room when a stray bullet pierced the apartment walls before dawn sunday and struck her in the neck. >> this child was lying in the living room on an air mattress with a cousin, and it wasn't until the child began crying that alerted the mother and the other child. that's when she discovered her daughter had a gunshot wound in her neck. >> the whole thing is like totally ridiculous. it's sad. i mean, a 7-year-old killed over something like whatever was going on out here. >> just horrific. it truly is. it is an horrific crime. >> it is.

paramedics rushed this girl to the hospital. she died there. investigators are asking anyone with information on the case to call crime stoppers at 504-822-1111. today the supreme court refused to block the execution of john allen muhammad, one of the d.c. area snipers. that execution is set for tomorrow night. in 2002, muhammad shot at least 0 people. five people in a single day. ten victims died. he's due to be executed at 9:00 eastern time for the killing of a man at a gas station in virginia. muhammad's younger accomplice lee boyd mall bow is serving life. 63-year-old richard murrow has been charged with first degree murder for shooting a 70-year-old man at a bar. that's what he's accused of. witnesses say he was a regular

at the sports grill. he apparently became irate saturday night and was being escorted when he pulled out a gun and opened fire. >> first shot we didn't know what happened. we thought he threw a chair because there was a fight. >> we heard the second and knew it was a gunfire. it was hard to count while running but they seemed to keep coming. >> i found a man holding another guy shot in the arm. >> put my belt on there and tightened it and held it there until the ambulance got there to check on him. >> authorities say three other people were hurt in this shooting. a new bombshell in the caylee anthony case. the fbi released documents saying a gatorade bottle found close to her body contained a syringe and it contained traces of chloroform as well as testosterone. officials at first said there were only traces of chloroform in the trunk of casey anthony's car but couldn't say whether it was a factor in her daughter's death. she's charged with first gre murder.

a medical expert on nancy grace said there's no way chloroform got into a syringe accidentally and clearly intended to be injected into someone and says the presence of testosterone was an intriguing new factor. >> isn't it true back in the '70s chloroform was banned for consumer use? >> right, because of the side effects and how dangerous it is. >> what side effects? >> the lethal side effects. the toxicity that was found to be associated with it and the volatile state of it. using it as an anesthetic is very unreliable. it was replaced with more modern and more reliable had medication. >> dr. koich, while i still have you, how did testosterone or ethanol end up in there? >> this is a big mystery to me. testosterone is a hormone naturally found in the body but also used by people using steroid for body building or having gender reassignment. so, i mean, they maybe should be looking for somebody who is

using steroids or has that type of predilection. >> caught on tape, a wealthy housewife and mother tells a shocking story of being kidnapped and held captive. but did she orchestrate her own abduction? mountains of evidence including a frantic 911 call and secretly recorded audio sex tape. now investigators say it all points to a hoax. so why is her husband standing by his wife? nancy grace will have the latest tonight at 8:00 eastern right here on hln. an atlanta bus driver has been suspended for forcing passengers to pray before allowing them off the bus. one passenger said he initially thought something was wrong friday when the bus driver asked him and three others to hold hands in prayer. >> the bus driver just got out of his seat and told everybody to hold prayer. and we held prayer for like three to four minutes. >> did you feel like you were forced to pray? >> yeah. i mean, you know, if i didn't, was he going to open the door?

because he was out of his seat. he didn't look like he was going for any controls to me. >> the passenger's cousin agreed to meet him at the bus stop. she was confused by what was going on inside but everything was cleared up once the passengers were finally allowed out. the bus driver has been behind the wheel for six years. a potential carjacking was stopped in west virginia by a-year-old. police say the boy pulled the keys out of the ignition when the suspect just jumped right into the car. the boy was in the car with his three younger brothers while his mom was inside a store. >> somebody just came and opened the door and tried to -- he told me to get out, but i didn't get out. and i yanked the keys out of the ignition and i had them like this. and then he tried to get it and he banged my head against the door. and then he got out and start running. then he ran across the street. >> the suspect is facing several charges, including kidnapping and auto theft. what an amazing little kid.

a truck driver was killed this morning when he lost control on the new s-curve part of the san francisco bay bridge. he went right over the side, fell 200 feet. it was still dark when the driver tried to make that had turn going about 50 miles per hour. officials say there have been 42 crashes there in the last two months, but this is the worst one. a man walked into his own funeral, shocked relatives tried to jump out of the funeral home's windows after seeing this guy alive. it happened last week in brazil on the holiday known as the day of the dead. family members and friends had mistakenly identified a body from the car crash. the man said he spent the night drinking at a bar near the crash. later the body was correctly identified as another man from a neighboring town. new developments in that cleveland house of horrors investigation. this is where authorities found the remains of 11 people. why investigators are widening the case against the suspect. we'll check in with the host of

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we're learning that tropical storm ida could make landfall as early as tonight. it was a hurricane. it has been downgraded. its top winds are now about 70 miles per hour. still forecasters say it could dump up to eight inches of rain when it makes landfall. so this is still a really serious situation. landfall could be around the mobile, alabama, area. at last report, ida was 165 miles south-southwest of pensacola, florida. tropical storm warnings are in effect along a 200 mile stretch from louisiana to florida. the governors of louisiana, mississippi and alabama and florida have declared states of emergency and flood-weary georgia is getting ready to get

soaked again. so far, no mandatory evacuations have been ordered, but authorities in some coastal areas are encouraging people near the water or in mobile homes to leave. encouraging, nudge, nudge. they want you to be on top of things, all right? the suspect in the ft. hood shootings, major nidal hasan, is now conscious and talking and a military hospital in san antonio. hospital officials are not saying whether he's talking about the shooting, though. 15 victims of the rampage are still in the hospital. eight are in intensive care. the commander of ft. hood says he's focused on helping the victims and post heal. he also wants to prevent any future outbursts of violence. >> i think what's really important is that hasan was a soldier. and we have other soldiers that might have some of the same stress and indicators that he had. and we have to look across our entire formation. not just in a medical community but look hard to our right and

left. that's the responsibility of everybody from the top to the bottom to make sure we're taking care of our own. >> the fbi may look into whether major hasan ever met with two of the 9/11 hijackers. that is coming from the associated press. it says the hijackers attended the same mosque in virginia where the funeral for hasan's mother was held in may of 2001. "the washington post" reports investigators are looking at any ties between hasan and a radical islamic leader who preached at that mosque. there are growing signs hasan was embracing extremist ideas about islam. classmates at a military college say they complained about what this believed were his anti-american views including a presentation that justified suicide bombing and he reportedly told classmates islamic law supersedes the u.s. constitution. senator joe lieberman says he'll start an investigation. >> u.s. army and the fbi are now investigating the murder. but i think it's very important

for the army and the department of defense to go back and conduct a separate independent investigation of whether there were warning signs dr. hasan was giving of both the stress he was under and the fact he had become an islamic extremist. >> per carry per carresident obt lady will attend the memorial tomorrow. 13 people have been killed. we've been airing some of their stories throughout the day. the stock market is on a four-day winning strooek. and today the dow jones industrials soared to the highest level in 13 months. there it is if you want to see it for yourself. the blue chip averaged up 203 points to close just below 10,227. it was the dow's third gain of more than 199 points in the past eight trading days, which means the dow is up 16.5% this year. the nasdaq has done even better. it soared 36.6%.

a truck driver was killed this morning when he lost control on a new s-curve part of the san francisco bay bridge. the highway patrol said the rig went over the side, fell 200 feet. it was still dark when the driver tried to make the turn going 50 miles per hour. this is the first fatality on that curve. but officials say thereof actually been 42 crashes there in the last two months. 500 people turned out to remember the 11 women found dead at that house in cleveland. they marched with candles after a memorial service to the house where the women was found. anthony sowell lives there. he's accused of murder and rape. one of the seven bodies identified so far is telacia fortson. her mother was there last night. >> reporter: as we stand here in front of this home where they found your daughter, what is that like for you? >> it's hard. because i want to burn it down. i really would like to.

it's very hard. that's why i won't look at it. >> reporter: why won't you look at it? >> because i know my baby was in there and she got killed in there. no, it's -- and it's hard. >> sowell's dna is being entered into a national database to see if he's connected to any unsolved cases. his lawyer requested he be put on suicide watch in jail. tonight on "nancy grace," caught on tape. a wealthy florida housewife and mother tells a shocking story of being kidnapped and held captive. but did she orchestrate her own abduction? mountains of evidence, including a frantic 911 call and a secretly recorded audio sex tape. now investigators say it all points to a hoax. so why is her husband standing by his wife? nancy grace will have the latest tonight at 8:00 eastern right here on hln. the supreme court has refused to block the execution of john allen muhammad, one of

the d.c. area snipers. that execution is set for tomorrow night. back in 2002, muhammad shot at least 20 people in washington, d.c., maryland and virginia, five in a single day. ten victims died. he's due to be executed at 9:00 eastern time for the killing of a man at a gas station in virginia. muhammad's younger accomplice, lee boyd malvo is now sieving life. three of the five teenagers accused of setting a boy on fire on purpose are being charged as adults for attempted murder. florida prosecutors say the three boys will likely be formally charged next week. the other two teenage suspects not charged today are expected to be released. the victim michael brewer is still in critical condition at jackson memorial hospital in miami. the 15-year-old has burns over 65% of his body. the debate over health care reform is moving to the senate. not right away, though. the house approved a plan over the weekend. senate majority leader harry

reid has his own proposal. like the house bill it includes a government-run insurance program known as the pks. most senate republicans oppose that. it will take all 60 to bring it to a public vote. one of them, independent joe lieberman of connecticut says he'll join a republican filibuster to block consideration of the bill. well, we have a major recall to tell you about. stroller maker maclarn is recalling one million umbrella strollers because they could possibly amputate or lacerate, cut, children's fingertips. maclaren says there have been 12 amputations reported after kids got stuck when it was opened or closed. sold since 1999. at stores including babies "r" us and target. consumers can contact the company to get a free repair kit. details the recall can be found at cnnmoney.com. i'll put it on my facebook page

for you, too. that's important information. pictures right now of a mock berlin wall made up of dominos being knocked down through the formerly divided city. today marks the 20th anniversary of the fall of that wall. thousands are there to celebrate.

20 years ago today the berlin wall came down. symbolically freeing eastern europe from communist rule and marking the beginning of the end of the cold war. events are planned around the world to mark this historic occasion. a few minutes ago, a mock berlin wall made of large dominoes was knocked down between the formerly divided city. this is a scene from the president ronald reagan library in simi valley, california. . a fifth grade class from a local elementary school tore that

thing down today, sparking memories of when president reagan called on then soviet leader mikhail gorbachev to tear down this wall. look at that. those lucky enough to be in berlin during the fall of the wall say they'll never forget the moment in history that changed the world. the british woman who lived close to the wall took these pictures of her smiling boys after chunks of it were chipped away. margaret marunke said her living room looked right over the wall and they could actually see the east german border guards in their tower. she says looking back she can't imagine how they managed to live with such a depressing sight. marunke says when she found out what was happening at the wall, she fought back tears while racing home to catch the news. she said that evening people were celebrating, really trying to take it all in. she says there was also a sense of apprehension, was this real, would it last?

she feels incredibly lucky to have witnessed all of this. look at her boys there. ireport.com has its own version of the berlin wall on the home page today. a mosaic of photos and video of r. of everything related to this event. constantly updated by our i-report team. check out these amazing stories and send us your own. when you have images of breaking news, click on the upload now link. there's easy instructions there. the supreme court is hearing a case today that is raising some controversy. this is the issue. should juvenile offenders be put away for life without the possibility of parole for crimes that don't involve a death? opponents say the punishment is cruel and unusual. people who support the life sentence question whether rehabilitation is possible for juvenile repeat offenders. 109 juvenile inmates across the country are serving life terms for non-homicide officials. 70% of those cases are in florida. four years ago, the high court struck down the death penalty

for juveniles. this has been the "your views" question all day. talking about it. giving your opinions on both sides. lots of comments on my facebook page. we're up to well over 130 comments on richelle carey hln. clay doesn't agree. clay says --

that's just a sample of a couple of the sides that we've gone dealing with on facebook and e-mail and phone calls. then there's been middle ground as well. whatever the case, you've been passionate. we appreciate the discussion you've been creating today. cnn.com and oprah winfrey are teaming up for the biggest oprah book club event ever. go to cnn.com/oprahbookclub from "say you're one of them. share your thoughts. plus, register for the book club event happening on the new cnn.com tonight at 9:00 eastern time. a suspected carjacker thought he was pretty tough until he ran into a cagey 9-year-old kid.

we're on the scene of a situation. this is a carjacking in hawthorne, california. it has led to a police standoff. as you can see, there are several police cruisers on the scene. they're investigating an officer-involved shooting related to this carjacking.

again, this is happening in hawthorne, california. we'll get you more information on this scene just as soon as we can. but, again, this is a carjacking that's somehow related to an officer-involved shooting. we don't have a lot of details on whether or not anyone is hurt in this situation but we'll get you much more information on the situation as soon as we can. "prime news" is happening in just a few minutes, so mike galanos is here. he's got some last-minute notes to tell us. what's coming up at the top of the hour? >> talking about the casey anthony case. this is a theory we've talked about a lot, chloroform. that's been the theory, that casey anthony, selfish mom wanted to go out and party so she gave little caylee chloroform. now we're finding out investigators telling us chloroform was found at the crime scene. we'll break that down for you, what that means for the case. take your calls 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number. also updating you on the alleged shooter in the ft. hood massacre, hasan is awake and he is talking.

so we're going to find out from investigators what's the first question you asked him? why did you do it? are you at that point yet? how do you handle this situation. we'll get you updated on the investigation and take your calls on that as well, 1-877-tell-hln. this is a-r. headline that will get you was the suspected killer in cleveland a good boyfriend? one woman saying she lived with him a couple of years and he took care of me. that leads to a host of questions. he's innocent until proven guilty but the base question is how do you allegedly kill 11, but yet you're going to be good boyfriend and take care of this woman. we're also talking about the show "gossip girls." breaking down something something for you. a threesome tonight. a threesome? come on! it's network television. it's not cable. call in, 1-877-tell-hln. i think you know what i think about that one. >> we're always here on those topics, always. good stuff. we'll have to facebook about it or something just to get it all

out. thank you, mike. good stuff as usual. let's continue with the day's news. a 70-year-old man shot dead over the weekend at a bar in vail, colorado. this is the first homicide in this ski resort town in decades. 63-year-old richard mur yoe has been charged with first degree murder. should make his first court appearance today. witnesses say he was a regular at the sandbar sports grill. apparently became irate and was escorted out the door when he allegedly pulled out a gun and offend fire. >> first shot, nobody really knew what happened. we thought he threw a chair at the window or something because we knew there was a fight in the bar. >> we heard the second one and said it's gunfire. hard to count when you're running but seemed to keep coming. >> i found a man holding another guy. >> took my belt on there and tightened it down and held it there until the ambulance got there to come and check on him. >> two other people injured in the shooting were taken to the hospital. potential carjacking was stopped in west virginia by a

9-year-old. police say the boy pulled the keys out of ignition when the suspect jumped into the car. the boy was in the car with his three younger car with his three younger brothers while his mom was inside the store. >> somebody came and opened the door and he told me to get out but i didn't get out. and i yanked the keys out of the ignition and i had him like this. and he tried to get it and he banged my head against the door and he got out and started running. he ran across the street. >> probably should have jumped out, but clearly it worked out okay. the suspect is facing several charges including kidnapping and auto theft. first it was books. now there is an online price war on dvds. just in time for the holidays, walmart, target and amazon.com are selling preorders for new dvds for ten bucks or less.

one example is "harry potter and the half blood prince." the list price is supposed to be $29. you can buy it online for $9.98. people caught with child pornography on their computers claim it is not mine. somebody put it there. many say it is a computer virus. sometimes they are right. there are viruses that download child porn without owners knowing it. real pedophiles use the corrupted computers for remote storage of collections of illegal videos and pictures the ap found some of the viruses were pranks or trying to frame someone on a child foreign fi charge. be aware. >> there is a carjacking that led to a police standoff and an officer-involved shooting. this is happening live. several police cruisers and s.w.a.t. are on the scene.

a california affiliate ktla is reporting that three suspects were involved in this carjacking. one may have been injured by gun fire. this happened near a discount store. authorities believe a suspect could be hiding in that store.