right now on "showbiz tonight," carrie's sex tape confessions. carrie prejean admits today that, yep, she made a solo sex tape. >> it's the biggest mistake of my life. >> tonight, conservative carrie's explosive response to people calling her a hypocrite. >> no one's there is an extreme double standard that conservative women

are under attack. >> has she now lost all credibility? j lo's own sex tape shocker. tonight the dramatic fight to stop her ex-husband from releasing a very intimate tape. tonight the steamy story behind the tape that could devastate j lo. john's bizarre brand new multimillion-dollar quart fight, and why lindsay lohan's train wreck dad is part of it. tv's provocative entertainment show starts right now. i am a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city.

>> and the conservative family values beauty queen admitted first thing this morning on "today" show made a sex tape of herself. >> if you want to call it a sex tape, that's fine. >> what do you call it? >> it was me, by myself, and nobody else was with me, i was not having sex. >> yes, she did say today she made a sex tape but she was not having sex, at least not with somebody else. and she went on a confession show all morning long. she calls the tape the biggest mistake of her life, but she is not apologizing. prejean came out swinging today claiming she is the target of the same people that attacked sarah palin. and it's the beauty versus the donald. wait until you hear her startling her claims about

donald trump humiliating beauty queens like herself. and megan alexander, who is a correspondent. carie made the news sir kooews . and she did own up to it, but she certainly did not apologize. now, considering she is the face of family values these days, should she have said i'm sorry. >> i am just counting her 15 minutes, by the way. yeah, particultic, tic, very go. you said in the opening, her virtual apology. the words i am sorry never came out of her mouth. you cannot call for family values and then have a tape of you, where you are doing unspeakable things, things

that -- i talked to inside sources about what is on that tape, it's pretty bad and you can't have it both ways. >> she does have to stick to her talking points, she is on tour. and the whole point is to defend her good name, so to speak. but some of the things she said today on the tv appearances made us go, huh? take a look. >> you could call it whatever you want to call it. if you want to call it a sex tape, that's fine. >> what do you call it? >> me by myself. nobody else was with me. i was not having sex. i sent it to my boyfriend at the time, and i was a teenager, and i cared about him and trusted him, and there is a campaign against me to try and silence me for the answer that she gave at the pageant. >> yeah, that's when she spoke

out against same-sex marriage. are you buying this is a campaign smear against her? >> yeah, a.j., the gay marriage question at miss usa, and sometimes her speaking out about conservative women in the media and then the sex tape. and as i said always, she needs to move forward. i do think that she needs to stay on topic and not continually bring it back to people are against her due to miss usa, because that tape was made when she was 17 before she was miss usa. >> and yeah, i said all along, it's not right for anybody to viciously attack her for what she believes in, but if she is going to wave the flag for free speech, she has to understand

people that criticize her are waving the same flag. and carie prejean also claimed today, that she and other women are being -- and this is her word, palinized. >> you say in the book you have been palinized, referencing sarah palin. what do you mean by that? >> you know the attacks she has been under attacked, don't you? >> i think she is certainly been criticized, as have many politicians. >> and there is a double standard out there. an extreme double standard that women are under attack. >> what do you think, is prejean being palinized? >> well, you are talking about family values and you made a sex

tape. there are topless photos of you out there. as i said, you can't have it both ways. you cannot talk about family values and then do things that most families find despicable. >> i want to bring in brooke anderson, and we watched prejean explain herself and the sex tape. do you think she did a good job to the point where we should let her off the hook at this point? >> no, we should not the, a.j. i applaud her for owning up to the tape and being honest about what she says is the biggest mistake of her life. but she is in no way to be a family values spokesperson. how many families would want their daughters emlating prejean? enough said. >> she has a new book out this week and she is taking on donald trump in this book. she claims donald trump humiliated the beauty queens at the pageant by picking out the

ones he thought were hot. and barbara walters said, and she speaks from experience, prejean is picking on the wrong man. >> we understand he feels this never happened and he may sue you for saying this, and he did meet all the women, and he said you are hot, you are not, he -- >> he did not say that, you are hot and you are not. >> if you say, who do you think? perhaps that's a way of getting to understand people. what you suggested was that it was a little, let's say -- >> well, take it however you want to take it, but there are 50 girls that would testify -- >> the miss usa pageant fired her. and you speak with the donald today about this. how does he feel about what she is saying? >> i had a lengthy conversation

with donald trump. he was classy, and i asked leading questions and he did not take any shots, and he said he never separated the women in a pageant by hot and not hot. how do you say one is hot and one is not? they are all attractive. how does that happen? he denies that and says it never happened. >> in a terrific moment on "the view" today, she grabbed her hand and said you know, this is the best thing that ever happened to you. >> you need to move forward. the pageant was what it was. where does she see her future? if she wants to be a spokesperson for family values and conservative values, you have to move forward. don't bash the donald or the pageant, it was what it was, and

move forward. >> thank you guys. and that is not the only sex tape scandal, making big news breaking tonight. jennifer lopez in a sex tape shocker of her own. in a few minutes we will tell you the incredible pain she is taking to make this nightmare go away. now, i want to turn it over to you for a show business night question of the day. has prejean lost credibility? you can e-mail us at "showbiz tonight" at cnn.com. and tonight the unblaefrable story behind john gosselin's bizarre multimillion-dollar court fight, and why lindsay's dad is part of it. i have your ringside sink of jon and kate's circus. and then levi johnston is

launching a new fight against sarah palin. this is going to be ugly. and also this -- >> that's incredible. did she not think neighbor would notice? that's outrageous. what video was shown to that woman that left her speechless? >> and tonight, what is making news right now.

welcome back to "showbiz tonight." i am brooke anderson with a.j. hammer. and rihanna, rooting for rihanna. and showbiz where there on the carpet talking to rihanna last night for the first time since her explosive abuse tell-all interview on tv.

and our guest sat down with rihanna who told her about how her tragedy may have changed women's lives forever. and rihanna was reluctant about talking to us about her abuse, but she did tell us she was under immense pressure to be a role model. >> how does it feel to be a role model? >> great. >> especially now? >> it's a lot of pressure being a role model realistic, but in any way you can help people, that's what life is about, learning and teaching. >> janelle, when you spoke with rihanna, did you get a sense she is having a hard time dealing with being a role model? >> she said that she embraces it now, and i think it's because who doesn't want to be called a

role model. she said she is ready to step up to the challenge and receive it. >> it will take time for her to adjust and embrace it more and more. and rihanna told you exclusively, about how her tellall on abc may have saved one women's life who was in an abusive relationship. >> and i had a fan who brought in a letter, and after the "20/20" interview, after it aired, she called the hotline and she wanted them to help, she wanted them to hide her and her daughter and get out of that relationship, which was really inspiring for me that she went from thinking about killing herself to moving on with a new life. >> janelle, truly remarkable. when you think about how rihanna was widely criticized for not speaking out sooner, and now look at the effect she is

having. >> yeah, and obviously there is a painful memory, and had she talked about it eight months ago when it first happened, by the time the album comes out many people would have said i am sick of hearing about it. she is trying to talk about it in a blanket kind of way, and she is hoping to stop talking about it so much and that will force people to buy the album where she addresses it. >> and she is not national same place that she was eight or nine months ago obviously. and tennis superstar serena williams said she has nothing but love for rihanna. >> very excited to see ri, and changing the face of her planet with her interview, to look at the statistics with what has happened, women calling hot lines saying this is what happened to me, because rihanna did it. >> i think when you are in a

position and things happen to you it's tough to talk about it, and sometimes when you talk about it it makes you a hero. >> it's clear she is a very, very strong woman and an inspiration to all of us. thank you so much for sharing your interview with her. we appreciate it. >> can you catch that interview this saturday on vh1 news. and the on call phone lines have been ringing nonstop. we got a call from area in north carolina, she says chris has a right to speak out. >> thank you, erica. >> and we heard from kentucky, and shonise says this.

>> she is just now feeling comfortable to speak out about it. he needs to be quiet and let her do her thing. >> speak out on this or anything else that is on your mind. >> the phone lines always hope, give us a ring. leave a voice mail. and breaking news about two stars and their sex tapes. first, jennifer lopez' sex tape shocker. j lo caught up in a dramatic fight to keep her ex-husband from releasing the tape. and carry prejean. tough questions this morning

from "today"'s meredith vieira. is she a hypocrite because she was preaching family values as the sex tape surfaces. and then ellen and oprah have something in common. wait until you hear this. and ellen's wife opens up with brand new details with how they met. this is "showbiz tonight" on hln. and more news from the ticker, what is making news right now. >> if you eat all of these healthy foods you will grow up to be big and strong just like me. >> and me. well, i am still growing. >> i can't wait to eat the food and we grow.

do we have a drum roll or something like that? that makes it more dramatic. let's see it! >> hey, a huge deal here. oprah and ellen dae jegeneres ss the cover of the magazine. and ellen and oprah posed for four covers together, and that was the third. ellen's wife also stopped by the "oprah" show and revealed things about how she fell for ellen and

how she knew she was the one. >> when did you know she was the one for you? >> when i first laid eyes on her. but it took me three years to actually tell her how i felt about her, because i was on "ally mcbeal" at the time and not living as an openly gay person, and i was closeted and very afraid if i talked about being gay it would be the end of my career. and i was not about to date the most famous lesbien in the world. i felt weak at the knees, and i was overwhelmed with how i felt. >> portia adds it took her ten months after that to ask ellen out. and i just checked the

facebook wall. there is a raging debate going on. so much is posting stuff about how chris brown commented on rihanna's first interview. sign up for our facebook page and twitter breaking entertainment news alerts at cnn.com/showbiz tonight. jennifer lopez in the fight of her life against her ex-husband. j lo trying to stop him from releasing a sex tape of her. making news today, levi johnston, shocking information about the new legal fight he has to launch against the palins. and caught on tape. a woman falling right in front

of a subway train. amazingly, she lives. this is "showbiz tonight" on hln. now, it's the showbiz news ticker, news from the news room making news right now.

now, on "showbiz tonight," j lo's sex tape shocker. tonight jennifer lopez' fight to keep her ex-husband from releasing an intimate video of her. and prejean, the former beauty queen answers the tough questions about her sex tape, and why she made it and why she calls it the biggest mistake of her life. and jon and kate plus lowen?

plus, more news stories breaking from the showbiz news ticker. tv's most provocative entertainment show continues right now. welcome back to "showbiz tonigh tonight". i am a.j. hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from new york city. >> i am brooke anderson coming to you from hollywood. tonight, is there a j lo sex tape? it's one of two "showbiz tonight" shockers making the news of the day. and lopez is trying to stop her ex-husband from showing a tape of her that they shot during their honeymoon. and also breaking tonight, prejean's confession tour. she confirmed today she made a

solo sex tape but is not apologizing for it, and does that make her a beauty queen hypocrite? >> and now, we have our guests. i want to begin with the j lo sex tape. jennifer lopez' ex-husband says he wants to use a sex tape of jennifer lopez in a movie he is making? >> what people will do for a buck, a.j. there is an audience out there for it. it seems very disappointing that somebody that you once cared deeply about would reveal something so private and personal. i don't know what to say necessarily. i think she should attempt to fight it, but she did do it in the first place, so once again it comes back to haunt you, i suppose. >> i cannot continue to understand why anybody would put

something on tape that they would not want it to get out in the public eye. and it includes lopez wearing skimpy underwear, and there are scenes of an argument between j lo and her mom. and this was in 1997, and they were married for less than a year, and he signed a confidentiality agreement when she got divorced. do you think he could get away with using a tape like this? >> anything is possible, a.j. but he is going up against a heavy hitter in his ex-wife, and i agree with megan, it's disgusting he is trying to make money off the private footage and portray a woman he once loved. lesson here is put the video camera down, people. turn it off! >> and j lo is a heavy hitter, and a lot of resources and big lawyers. the fact that he is moving forward with this and thinking he can get away with it says to

me that maybe he can get away with it. you are not the only one, brooke, that thinks it's disgusting. the ladies of the view going off today. >> the fact he is trying to sell this, you should be ashamed of yourself. because you did not spend your money right, that's ridiculous. >> and i am thinking a lot of people will agree with shearrri shepherd, do you? >> well, i think it's just despicable that he would not honor her and try to go public with this, and what some people do for money is unfortunate these days. and the next shocker, prejean's sex tape confession. meredith asked the conservative

former beauty queen about being called a hypocrite, because in her new book that she is promoting right now, and she wrote this, our bodies are temples of the lord, and she thinks the criticism is tied to her slamming same-sex marriage at the pageant six months ago. >> i am a model. i was in a beauty pageant. if people want to call me a hypocrite, then that's their progresstive. and nobody is perfect, and i am not perfect, and nobody is perfect, and everybody makes mistakes. it's about taking responsibility for your mistakes. it just so happens that seven months has gone by since i gave that answer, and they have done nothing but try to attack me and try to silence me and keep me from spreading the message that free speech still exists. >> i listen carefully to see if

people answer the questions they are asked. she said if people want to call her a hypocrite that's their r progresstive. >> yeah, and it's important to stay to topic. brooke brought up something interesting, too, when she said young girls are looking at carry as a role model. going back to people are against her ever since the beauty pageant. stick to topic. if you are going to apologize, do it 100% and move forward and accept the consequences. >> and sometimes you can be over trained. the media tour did roll on when

she went on "the view." watch this. >> if you have presented yourself and can make comments about others' way of life, are you surprised you are getting backlash? >> i was in front of millions of people, and i expressed my view. >> and we are here now. >> she keeps bringing it back to when she answered the question about gay marriage at the miss usa pageant. but this has nothing to do with that. >> and whoopi completely nailed it there. she voiced her opinion about something that she doesn't agree with, and people, you know, said that they went up in arms, and she said it's freedom of speech. but you know what, though? you did something a lot of people don't agree with, and that's make a sex tape.

and there are sex tapes involved here. you cannot fault us for asking questions. >> and carlos diaz, i will leave that on your page. and this is the question. is she a hypocrite. 80% that responded said yes, and 20% said no. let's get to a couple e-mails. 80% of the voters say shes a hypocrite and there is one that says she is not. but she is still selling the book, and it's working for her one way or another? >> i think you need to think about what you need to talk about, move forward, and direct it, you know, address it head

on. in my interview that i did with her on "inside edition," and i asked how do you feel people say you are a hypocrite, it's an opportunity for her to say we all make mistakes, and then you need to move forward. i can't say it enough. thank you, both. and this just in about the j lo sex tape, earlier today a judge issued a restraining order until december. and shocking new revelations out today. it's about the new legal fight he is about to lunch against sarah palin and her family. and the stage is being set for the most bizarre courtroom drama ever, featuring not only jon and kate gosselin, but lindsay lohan's father, michael. i have the juicy details. that's incredible.

did she not think anybody would notice? that's outrageous. >> what video did "showbiz tonight" show to get that kind of response? wait until you find out. it's time for the showbiz news ticker. more stories from the news room, and they are making news right now.

welcome back to "showbiz tonigh tonight", and i am a.j. hammer in new york along with brooke anderson. did you see this. a woman falls on the train tracks, and the driver of the subway train slammed on to the breaks and came to a halt. people on the flat form were franticly waving their arms and the driver of the train pulled the emergency break and is being hailed as a hero. and the woman that fell got scrapes but is just fine, and she told authorities she had

been drinking. and this is featuring a train wreck cast, and not only including jon and kate, but lindsay lohan's father. and this is about the lawsuit that tlc brought against jon. and then levi johnston has a revelation about how he is going to fight for the baby he had with sarah palin's daughter. and we have our guests. ladies, let's start by setting the scene for jon gosselin's upcoming court date. it's going to be quite a circus. listen to this. tlz reports they subpoenaed michael lohan, and that's two

friends and one evennemy. how do you think that is making jon look? >> well, jon is not supposed to make deals with other people. the rumors are out that he was trying to shop another reality show with michael lohan, and that -- of course the women he is spending time with would over hear phone calls and trying to do interviews and setting things up outside of the contract. so as much as a circus, it's legally relevant. >> it sure is. it's not looking good for jon, as you say. we have a reality show star, a father of a hollywood star, a former fling and a current girlfriend all expected to show up in court. does it sound like this courtroom showdown could be a reality show all itself? >> yeah, this is the show they

should be doing. this is very exciting. i would tune in to this. plus the tlc marketing department would have to do nothing, basically. they could go home and play games on their computers. and michael lohan knows how to get publicity, and jon knows how to get publicity, and he will invite a camera crew to do yoga poses with him. if tlc wants to get ratings, they should get this. >> yeah, make a weekend special out of it. as we like to say around here, but wait, more. jon reportedly planning on counter siouxing tlc for $5 million, claiming tlc is keeping him from earning a living. is he out of his mind? he is the one that shut down the

show. >> he will have a difficult time. and tlc responded to him, saying listen, we are not stopping you from your original job, perhaps you should go to that, your pretelevision day job. these are not people who have talent, who are singers and actors that had something. he is simply from the reality show. and so he has a difficult, difficult road to hoe here, and also the timing with the divorce. it's a mess. >> it's a mess. i think he has a skewed sense of how much his image is worth. goodness, gracious. now, another legal battle getting ready to go to court, another train wreck, levi johnston. he just released he will fight for joint custody for the baby he had with palin's daughter. he said the palin family is making it difficult for him to see his son. and now, a sincere heartfelt

move here or cheap publicity stunt? i smell publicity stunt. >> i am not surely vie could spell publicity or stunt for that matter. he is talking about what he is doing to try and be a good dad, that would be one thing. but he talks about sarah palin, and he talks about how they are mean to him, and he talks about sarah palin being a hypocrite, and his "play girl" shoot. he is not trying to make anybody believe he is a good dad. >> well, if levi were really smart and going to fight for his child, he would clean up his act. >> yeah, a court is not necessarily going to be happy with that. and the bottom line here is we have somebody incredibly immature and thrown into the spotlight and left with a very

serious important lifetime issue which is he and bristol share a child and will share that child forever. it's okay to seek joint custody, but that's a solemn serious legal obligation. that's what is going to give everybody revservation here. >> yeah, who is advising him to pose for "playgirl." and the travolta, a family affair here. john travolta and his wife star in "old dogs." we have the premiere in los angeles, and the family has been in saw clueson. they are dealing with the devastating loss. at the premiere, the travolta's co-stars had glowing things to

tell "showbiz tonight" tonight about working with john. >> he is an amazing man. he has always been that >> the tape that has people outraged. >> that's incredible. did she not think anybody would notice? that's outrageous. >> what video did we show her to

get that reaction? wait until you find out. and now the news ticker making news right now. "showbiz"

tonight she is being called the meanest player in women's soccer. you have probably seen her throwing punches and pulling hair. we have the pony tail grab that has grabbed headlines. >> it was the hair pull that had jaws dropping and tongues wagging. >> did she not think anybody would notice? that's outrageous. >> oh my goodness. >> oh my gosh. >> the reviews were brutal.

the dirtest player in women's soccer. the most violent female soccer player in history. cheap shot lambert. the student's moves were put to music. she got land basted by tv hosts, by kids on youtube. >> that lambert chick, she is really crazy. >> by a hooded guy called mr. doodie head. >> she is an attractive lady. >> what a bully. >> wow, i thought my exwas bad. that's terrible. >> her opponent did elbow her in the chest before she whacked her back and another grabbed her shorts before she grabbed her braid.

this has become the new head butt. the head butter's team lost and so did lamberts by one goal. the girl lambert jabbed in the back got back at her by pointing at the score board. >> some were more forgiven. and a ban lambert page sprouted on facebook. so are these high school girls. got into a little brawl sunday night. later the fans got into it. elizabeth lambert apologized and was suspended indefinitely. she is studying occupational therapy, which could come in handy treating her opponents. >> brutish, but also hottish. >> under the collar. >> that's a really mean girl.

>> did you see that, brooke? she pulled her hair. >> not hard, though. >> unbelievable. >> i am brooke anderson in hollywood. you can catch us on the 11s and in the morning. celebrity sexcapades. carrie prejuan goes from family values advocate to sex tape star. and she went from star wars to

more. carrie fisher joins my, coming up next.

tonight on "the joy behar show," first david letterman, now carrie prejean, all caught with their pants down. what's up with celebrity sex scandals? who's next? will big bird shed his feathers for a little cockadoodledoo? carrie fisher went from movie star parent. she's on her new hit show "wishful drinking." ft. hood, it seems the army knew the alleged shooter presented a problem but did nothing about it. was it because he was muslim and didn't want to appear politically incorrect? all that and more right now.

okay. former miss california carrie prejean, the one who is anti-gay marriage admits she has a solo sex tape. all by myself, she said. just as she's doing the media rounds to plug her new book. coincidence? joining me to discuss the sexcapades are paula shugart, president of miss universe, comedian rich vos, and ashleigh banfield, host of "open court" on trutv. why are there so many sex tapes out, guys? you have a few of them, all these celebrities, doing sex tapes. it sort of raises their profile. >> it's like plugging a gig. gets you out there. >> plugging a gig.

>> i don't know how -- i don't know how anybody would make a sex tape when it's going to get out. i would never put myself -- i don't want to see myself naked when i'm shaving. i put a towel around my waist. >> these girls seem narcissistic. they're gorgeous girls. i spoke to her this morning about her sex tape. take a look at this. you made the tape. you have photos of yourself. you didn't go along with the morals clause which is in the pageant's rules, yet, you say you're a victim. i don't totally buy it. >> did you see the attacks i was under? did you see the names i was called? i want to ask you. did you? >> some of it. yes. >> what do you think of that? >> i thought it was okay to say your piece of mind. i said that on the show. >> thank you. i think every american -- >> i don't know why you say you're palinized as a victim. >> there's a lot of the victimization in the way she's approaching this, paula, right? >> classic victim. >> why do they go there? she puts herself with sarah palin who's also poor me, you know, do you think it's victimization? is it hypocrisy? what is it going on with her?

>> the only reason i'm here is because i'm fed up with the hypocrisy and lived this for months. i was out of the country until last night. when i saw she -- mr. trump who bent over backwards and defended her even when she was caught in lie after lie and for her to take him on today i think -- if you want to -- >> what did she do with him? >> she totally lied and really did not tell the truth about things behind the scenes in the pageant. she put it more in a way to make herself look good. if you want to sell a book, if you put donald trump's name into it, that's the best way to. i think that that's why i'm here. i just -- enough already. this was not about her answer. it was about the fact she was absolutely impossible to work with when we tried to make things -- make it work --

>> at the pageant? >> at the pageant and afterwards. >> she's a very tough cookie. i found her to be tough in the interview today with her. >> i'm going say something about george w. bush i rarely said before. he was right in the whole dixie chicks argument when he said freedom of speech is just that. you have the freedom to say what you want but it doesn't mean you're devoid of the consequences. when carrie prejean puts herself out there with an argument, statement, book or anything else, she has to face the music. the more you put yourself out there, the more you're going to get criticized. >> what does this have to do with the dixie chicks? >> they said what they said about president bush. they weren't proud of him being their president. president bush said you have the right to say and sing what you want, but people will smash your cds and have the right to, too. with carrie prejean, she has the right to say what she wants. she can't claim victim if she's going to talk. >> i would rather see her video than read her book any day. i mean, who wants to read her dumb book? who cares about her? >> i'm not going to comment one way or another if that exists. my only thing on it is the first photo that came out -- >> the seminude photo. >> the seminude photo where she

told us flat-out she was 17 at the time which seems to -- and we ended up -- i have an e-mail from a pageant consultant saying she's absolutely lying on this. this was taken in february before the pageant, she was 21. fine. i have an e-mail, is there anything else we need to know about? nothing. absolutely not. then the morning of the press conference, the famous "the wind blew my top open" photo -- >> the wind blew my top open. the dog ate my homework? >> i'm on a talk show having to

-- do you believe that really happened? it's some time you have to be responsible and -- >> you think she's lying? >> i definitely think -- >> she says she was 17 in that photo, the seminude picture you're talking about. in the e-mail, i guess to you, right -- >> to our california director. >> to the california director she says that this was taken recently. she was 21 at the time. her math is a little fuzzy math i think. >> it may or may not be. whoever took the pictures and leaked those pictures, they may very well be her best ally at this point because if she was under age, they're going to hold back any e-mails that prove anything because they could be in possession of child pornography. they could have disseminated child pornography. she, on the other hand, if she was underage, she might want to leak an e-mail or two -- >> do you believe she was underage? >> i don't believe, or care that you would think there's some dysfunction when it comes to beauty pageant contestants. they start out little kids, their parents are making them pose. >> we don't know if she was in the jonbenet category. >> let's say that for the joke.

it's pure dysfunction in my opinion. everybody has a past history. do you guys feel any attraction toward me? you know what i'm saying? >> she also says this sex tape, which by the way, rich, she did it alone. does that turn you on at all in your imagination? >> somebody that hot is doing it alone is how bad was her personality that she couldn't get somebody to join her? i mean -- >> that's a good point. >> who was taking the pictures? i want to know. if she was by herself, who was manning the zoom and pan? >> you can set it up and take it -- >> the zooms and the pans? >> the zooms and pans you can't. >> i'm not at liberty to comment on anything except prior to our mediation. so i'm not commenting on tapes, whether they exist or not. i want to be clear at this point. >> it exists. she's acknowledged it exists. what she's saying is she was 17. nobody -- how do we know she was 17? she's the only one in the room. >> this is stupid of her to do this.

there have been teenagers in new jersey who were charged with possession of child pornography for simply having photographs of themselves on their own personal phones. legally there's an issue with privacy there. they were charged. she could be charged not only with taking those dirty pictures of herself but sending them to someone. if she was 17, she was underage and there could be a crime committed in. >> if she wasn't going to be charged, you are planting the seed now. i'm sure she's real happy about that. >> all children watching should know, don't do this. >> definitely don't do that. we have a morals clause. aside from the morals clause and photos and everything else, lying. the hypocrisy and the lying and you play the victim -- >> she doesn't understand why people are mad at her. she says when she was on the show this morning, she says, look, all i did was give my opinion about gay marriage and they went after me. >> the classic victim. >> does she have validity in that statement? >> i think she was absolutely right in being able to express her opinion. nobody comments on the first part of the answer where she said i'm glad i live in a country where you can choose between same-sex marriage and opposite marriage.

that's not true. >> that's because she's not that bright. >> she said her grandfather died on the beaches of normandy to protect her freedom for free speech. i wanted to say, no, that's so you wouldn't be jailed for free speech. but you have to suffer some of the consequences. >> people don't know this but her grandfather on the beach was with a man that night. >> nude. >> she was on the "today" show this morning. let's watch what she did there. >> conservative women are under attack for whatever it is. i mean, if sean hannity went out there and said some of the things keith olbermann has said about me, you know, if he said anything about sonia sotomayor or michelle obama he would be off the air. why is there this double standard? >> okay. first of all, sotomayor did not make a sex tape as far as i know. >> that we know of. >> that we know of. that's true. i don't want to jump to conclusions here. it looks like she might not have.

all of these people. >> again, these are not -- you're being very unfair. they're pre-digital, those folks. >> don't you think some of this, the attack is because she's a conservative right-wing chick who is saying things like, you know -- >> vanessa williams had the. you-know-what kicked out of her -- >> against gay marriage and a conservative girl and then she does a sex tape that goes against the christian upbringing. the hypocrisy is what people are hanging on to here. it's not the free speech issue. >> i don't believe it's a conservative issue. look at vanessa williams. she's parlayed that into a terrific career. 20 years ago when we were talking about her and her dirty pictures when she got her title, she was excoriated. i don't think she's so conservative or liberal. the issue was you stood up there and said you're perfect and you weren't so perfect. >> yeah. it has nothing to do with her positions as a conservative against gay marriage? you don't think that has anything to do with it? >> i don't think she's

completely victimized because she's conservative. >> if she came out and said i love the idea of gay marriage, i'm very liberal and pro-choice, then she was in a sex tape, nobody would care in. >> she was in a pageant and sex tape, everybody cared. >> she violated the morals clause -- >> honestly the fact, then she turns around and turns on mr. trump which he -- >> mr. trump can take care of himself. >> yeah. i guess -- you're biting the hand that really took good care of you. >> i always say, don't bite the hand that brings you an orgasm. she was an action figure, a pez dispenser and sex doll. princess leia, also known as carrie fisher will join me.

i can't hold on forever. >> do you have a plan for getting out? >> what the hell are you doing? >> somebody has to save us kids. into the garbage chute, fly boy. >> you know her as princess leia from "star wars," but there's a lot more to carrie fisher than that white gown and really weird hair. she's a hilariously funny writer, in her new play, managed to turn her dysfunctional life story into a delight. with me now, carrie fisher. i love the show. i love the show. everyone should go see it

because it's just a wonderful -- you know, everybody loves you as princess leia. that's how people watching this will say, oh, who are not in new york right now. >> my grandparents actually named their poodle princess leia and it was hit by a car, so i have mixed associations that way. >> i can see where that would be an issue. they have a pez dispenser for princess leia -- >> shampoo. >> shampoo. and a sex doll -- >> it's advertised as a sex doll but i do not understand. there must be something about sex that i don't understand that's new because the doll is cement. so i don't find that erotic. maybe if there's someone out there that could suggest how that can be erotic, let me know. >> maybe bricklayers like it or something. >> bricklayers. see. oh. >> the mind. you complain about princess leia because -- when i've watched you, because people know you as princess leia.

>> i do it in fun, though. >> it's fine. it was a great thing for you, right? >> it's a fantastic movie and children loved it and everybody, you know? it's wonderful. >> yeah. now, let's go to the pathology, which i love the story of the pathology. you're diagnosed with bipolar. i have to read this because this is such a list here. >> i even think there's a few things that aren't on there. >> i have bipolar manic depression. >> those are the same thing. >> they are? that's right. those are the same thing. >> i like the name manic depression, though, because it describes what it's like. bipolar just sounds like a gay bear from alaska. >> which do you like better? manic or depression? >> of course the manic. depression would be like an idiot. no, i don't like that stuff. >> were you running around the streets like some people i know, manic-depressive, running around

and taking their clothes off? >> no taking of the clothes off i recall. i've had electro compulsive therapy for years. >> do you still get that? >> just when i take a bath. >> electroshocks? >> just last week. >> what does it feel like? >> it makes you feel better, for one thing. they put you to sleep now. there's no -- it's not like its depiction in media, which is really what's caused the stigma. i think also some of the pharmaceutical companies are probably not happy because it works so well. i'm on less medication now. they put you to sleep. they give you a medication that freezes your muscles. remember that movie, "what lies beneath," and harrison ford gives michelle pfeiffer this medicine and she's frozen and can't move? they give you that and you go to sleep. then you wake up and harrison -- >> you're very open about your own issues. let's watch a clip from the

show. >> i now get awards all the time for being mentally ill. i am apparently very good at it and i get honored for it regularly. now, i think one of the reasons that i'm such a shoo-in is there's no swimsuit portion of the competition. come on, it's better than being bad at being mentally ill, right? how tragic would it be to be runner-up for bipolar woman of the year? >> if anybody deserves to have a one-woman show, it's you. your parents were divorced and remarried several times. we know the eddie and debbie story, with elizabeth taylor. we'll get to that a little later. it's so great. your best friend died in your bed. >> yeah. that was bad. >> your second husband left you for another man. of course you're bipolar. who wouldn't be with this type -- >> what's great about being bipolar, all that would feel bad

for just anybody, but i get it dialed up. >> i know you do. you turn all of that into comedy which is the greatest gift that you can give yourself, in my opinion. >> it's the best kind of alchemy there is. i have a family member that took all the charm and romance out of self-pity, so i'm not into that. >> which one was that? >> i'm not going to tell you. >> okay. we'll be back with carrie fisher. >> i heard i was in the textbook and i heard i was in there with a picture. and i thought, what? i mean, what picture? it's not like anyone ever, ever called me and said, you know, do you have a little snapshot of yourself looking depressed or manic, you know, like from the show? so for years it truly bugged me. what picture? well, i have fantastic news. we found the picture. and rather than describe it to you, would you guys like to see it? because i so want to show it to

you. yep. yep. so i'm not crazy. that [ bleep ] is.

i'm back with writer, actress and pop culture icon carrie fisher. that's quite a title for you. don't you think? >> writer, actress, pez dispenser. >> pez dispenser. your parents were a little bit unusual for parents. >> not for, like, kitchen appliances. >> your father is eddie fisher who was famous in the '50s for "oh my papa" and your mother, debbie reynolds, one of the most famous comedy stars from the '40s and '50s. >> she's still performing. >> "singing in the rain."

she's hilariously funny, does great impressions. i guess it must have been hard growing up with these two. >> oh, come on, no. you want to talk about high-class problems, that's nose bleed high. >> yeah. >> i mean, you know -- every childhood has its challenges. it depends on the slant you have on it. >> right. >> i go for the funny slant. >> you did? did you go for the funny slant when you were a kid? >> teenage law is that nothing is funny. everything is, you know -- >> tragic. >> it's against you and you're a victim and, you know, everyone is doing it to you. >> i say, that sounds like sarah palin for some reason. >> yeah. one of my favorite genius people in the world. >> it reminds me of her. always the victim in everything. >> she is intimidating. >> i know a lot of the pain -- look, i'm a comedian, you know? so i understand. a lot of it is defensive posture comedy i think. >> it's also -- i'll say it first and i'll say it my way. >> go ahead. >> i'm just saying. so you can't -- look, they

put -- i did -- there was a thing in one of the tabloids. it said "carrie fisher's tragic life." that's not okay with me and that's not how i look at it. >> you don't want them defining it for you. >> if i didn't have so much to overcome, i didn't know i had courage. >> you know, "angela's ashes," the guy who wrote that, wonderful writer, frank mccourt. he wrote in the book the happy childhood is almost not worth having because you don't get a book out of it, don't get a one-woman show. you don't get material. >> there's another line about that. like, oh, shoot -- >> you'll think of it during the next break because we're still coming back. >> all right. good. >> talk about the drug addiction. you went into rehab at 29. right? what kind of drugs were you doing? >> what do you have? i -- yeah, yours. no. i was stealing medication from

people's medicine cabinets. >> like you'd be visiting their house and go in there? >> yeah. or the other way to do it -- i can't tell. it will give people ideas. i got very clever at it anyway. >> i don't know if anybody is as smart as you are. >> real estate. going house hunting. let me see your bathroom. marvelous, marvelous. >> i wonder how the people at corcoran feel about that right now. some people go in just to check what people are using your birth control. >> it makes sense with real estate. i'm taking out the real. i go get the real estate and take it away. >> you're such a clever girl. that's how you did it. we have more with you. everybody out there, we're coming back with more carrie fisher. s

all right. welcome, class, to hollywood 101. thank you so much for rolling. all right, so over here we have debbie and eddie. in the '50s they were known as america's sweethearts. those of you that are younger, all three of you, and you can't, you know, you can't relate to any of this, try to think of it this way. think of eddie as brad pitt, debbie as jennifer aniston and elizabeth as angelina jolie. does that help? that should really help. >> i'm back with the very funny, very talented carrie fisher who explains in detail her very complicated family tree in

"wishful drinking." joining us on the phone, a very important branch of that family tree. debbie reynolds. hello, debbie. >> hello, there. >> hi, mom. >> hello, darling daughter. >> so, debbie, you've seen the play, right? >> i've seen it about seven times. it's great. >> so it there anything in there that you can relate to or that you -- or that you would say -- >> no. i would just -- i think she should have put everything in then it would have really been an overnight sensation. >> what did she leave out? what did you leave out? >> mom -- oh, yeah, there's some stuff -- >> why are you looking up? >> because she's god. >> debbie is god. >> i hear the voice from up there. >> you're very close to her now, aren't you? >> we live next door to each other. >> where, in california? how is that working out? >> i adore my daughter. she's my daughter. she's my child.

very talented. >> she certainly is. so are you, debbie. >> if i did not have you as a role model, there would be no way i would still be working. she -- when we stop working out she goes to nightclubs, plays. she reinvents herself. i do that also. >> she's a great role model for that. >> i finally did turn into her, right, mom? >> well, you are a wonderful talent and i want to thank joy for coming over to the carlisle to see your mother. that was very nice of you, joy. >> debbie, i was looking for you after the show but you disappeared. >> there's no dressing room there so i had to change. naked in the lobby, i didn't think the carlisle was up to it. >> debbie, you're great. you an your daughter can bond later. >> we're going to do a gray gardens thing. >> i love you, carrie. >> love you, mama. talk to you later.

>> good-bye, hon. debbie is an incredible icon in american -- >> my mother's awesome. >> she's awesome. she really is. as a mother she -- there's a few things have to question -- does your mother really suggest you get pregnant by an ex-husband? >> yes, she did, but she wanted me also -- it would make the show too long. she thought, though, she couldn't have children. richard didn't -- ended up being an awful husband. awful. >> one of your husbands? >> one of my mother's husbands. she did better -- >> that's not the one that drove her into the poor house? >> richard hamlet. >> is he alive? >> yes. i wonder who he's taking advantage now. anyway, so my mother thought, though, that you could get pregnant -- this was explained recently because i finally did say, you really -- she thought you could get an injection,

what, like a sperm in your arm injection? then the sperm would go down here and i would have -- >> this is what happens when you're raised catholic. >> my mother's excentric. she's not catholic. she's raised by a very strange group of people from texas. >> so she figured that that would be the way to do it, huh? >> yes, that's one of her ideas. >> let's talk about your stepmother, elizabeth taylor for a second. what was she like? >> i didn't get to know her until much later. i think she's terrific. >> everyone loves elizabeth taylor. >> she's lovely. >> she did steal your father away from your mother. >> i once gave her an award and thanked her for getting eddie out of the house. the thing is, i did say to her once, did you love my father? she said, we kept mike todd alive. >> oh, it was really on the heels of his -- >> he was best friends with mike todd. i said -- mike todd was fantastic.

>> so he was, like, sort of a surrogate mike todd? that was weird. your father, was he in love with her? >> i'm sure he was. look at the woman. she's, you know, she's fun. >> she's a lot of fun. so is your mother. they're both fun broad. you really had a great -- in a certain way you had a great, great time didn't you? >> yes, absolutely. >> you really did. >> i have other stuff to make sure i know that that time was great. that's what's good about bad time. then you appreciate that other stuff. >> that's true. how about your father? was he just an absentee, what? >> my father is adorable. he's lovely. he's charming. you can see why he got all that [ bleep ], but -- >> i can say it. >> oh, come on. >> my girlfriend -- >> he loves women. >> he loves women. >> we have a very large relationship now, so it's like now i'm sort of, you know -- but

he -- no, my father was a boyfriend. >> right. >> they're best friends because they were a byproduct of sex. when you saw him, you loved him. that was the tragedy of it if there was. you know, there was so little of him available at that time. >> nowadays when you hear about horrible fathers and how sexually abusing their children, you look back on our fathers who were negligent and say thank you. >> he had elizabeth. >> now, meryl streep, i want to go here, do we have time for this? she played a character loosely based on you in "postcards from the edge." can we see some of that? >> will you please tell me, what is this awful thing i did to you when you were a child? >> you want to know? >> i want to know. tell me. >> okay. fine. from the time i was 9 years old you gave me sleeping pills. >> that was over the counter medication and i gave it to you because -- >> you don't give children sleeping pills. >> they were not sleeping pills. it was store bought and it was perfectly safe.

>> that was one of my favorite movies. i just love the way shirley mcclain -- >> she was great. >> is she like debbie in the movie? >> yeah. >> sort of self-absorbed? >> you know, my mom -- i don't know that that's what -- i wouldn't call my mother self-absorbed. i mean -- >> all actresses are self-absorbed. >> we are. this isn't narcissistic. you're probably that. i am that. >> narcissistic is a disorder. >> a good form of narcissism. >> you think so? how about -- let's do a little bit on your men before we run out of time. you were married to paul simon. >> you're kidding. >> i went to college with paul simon. >> how was that? >> we used to hear him playing his guitar on the library steps. >> he said the bar mitzvah was standing room only. >> how did that -- that lasted a little while. i remember when you were married

to him. >> that was great. >> are you friends with him now? >> that's complicated because we've moved on. >> has he come to see the show? >> no. >> no? >> i mean, there's nothing in it that, you know, would be bad. i'm very -- i mean, i admire paul. you know, i had a really -- some of our relationship was fantastic. >> just before we go, what about this other guy who left you for a man? >> uh-huh. what about him? >> did you have any signs he was gay? i'm always interested in these stories from the women who were married to gay guys. any kind of indications? >> yes. >> like what? >> well, whatever there was -- i don't know like what, but whatever there was, i'd heard rumors. i've heard that i'm gay, and, you know. >> people say a lot of different things about people in the media.

you were sleeping with the guy. >> that's a way to not know. >> really. that's interesting. how so? >> look, because you're having -- if you're having regular sex with someone you're not going to think, i mean, why would you think -- he's having sex with me like he wishes i was a man? i mean -- >> a substitution, like an acting trick. >> i didn't think of it because we were very involved with each other that way. >> i spoke to gay guys about this and they say it's really easy to have sex with a woman when you're gay because you're thinking of someone else and get going and then there she is. >> and we have a lovely daughter together. dna jackpot. >> are you a good mother like your mom was? >> i am an excentric and good mother like my mom was, but in a different way. >> thank you, carrie. a delight to talk you. the show is called, again, "wishful drinking." if you in new york, check it out. 

was the suspect in the horrible shootings at ft. hood radicalized? if authorities knew about his e-mails with radical clerics, why didn't they do anything? joining me to fill in the missing pictures are "the new york times" op-ped columnist charles blow and margaret carlson, editor of "the week" magazine. ed lavandera at ft. hood. what do we know about the fbi investigation of this alleged shooter at this point, ed? >> reporter: what the fbi is saying right now is that hasan came on to their radar in december of 2008 as part of another investigation they were doing and found that hasan had been communicating with the

person that was the subject of that investigation, some 10 or 12 e-mails we understand were exchanged. beyond that it didn't go any farther. >> okay. hasan exchanged e-mails with this radical cleric. do we know what they say? or said, rather? >> reporter: we don't know details of what was said in there. what's been told to us, what was talked about in those e-mails was within the line of work major hasan was doing at the time. that's why they're saying it didn't raise red flags and why the investigation didn't go farther. >> with the evidence, all this evidence of the back and forth e-mailing, why did the fbi decide he posed no threat? >> reporter: because they thought it was within the scope of what major hasan and the type of work he was doing within the military. so they didn't think there was anything out of the ordinary, there wasn't anything extremist

in nature being said or any warning signs that would point to major hasan being on the verge of carrying out an attack like this. >> ed, thanks so much. i'd like to bring in my panel. let's talk. margaret, are you there? >> i am. >> hi. sounds like the army and fbi messed up big-time here, don't you think? >> oh, big-time. if major hasan were gay he would have been gone because there's a don't ask/don't tell policy. >> that's an interesting point. >> every single warning sign was there and it was ignored and who thought that the army was politically correct? if it was protecting a muslim, it went way too far. a little common sense. he didn't just exchange e-mails. he went to a radical mosque. his subordinates, his patients had all worn the higher ups. he was promoted. there's a ridiculous story in

the paper here, i don't want to make the paper but it's my hometown paper, charles, not your paper, in which they were describing hasan's poor existence, he live in a hubbell, didn't have friends. he probably ate dog food. here's a guy making probably $100,000 a year. we don't care about root causes and other things or his privations. it was there -- people knew. they didn't even have to find out. this is a lack of common sense and it is a lack of taking the warning signs and doing something about it. >> well, i mean, i think margaret makes a great point here which is, you know, this guy had more red flags around him them tiananmen square. he's having communications with this person who is a known

terror suspect. even if that's against law, and it's not, we don't know what it's in those e-mails. it should be against the military code of conduct. that same military code of conduct says, you know, you can talk to a terrorist and that's okay. you kiss another guy, you're in danger to society. get you out of here. that's insane. so we held on to this guy. he, you know, he goes -- part of it could come back to bite the right wing and gun advocates because as mike isikoff points out in his piece today in "newsweek," this guy goes and buys a high-powered handgun which automatically triggers the fbi to do a background check. because of gun rights lobbyists and the way the law is written, they couldn't share that fact with the people who were investigating. once they have cleared you they can't share that information with anyone. they have to get rid of it. can't store it or anything. if it turns out that would have triggered a further investigation, it could be a real, you know, kind of a -- >> who's libel in that case? >> it's not liability now because the law -- they're following the law. the law says they cannot hold the information. >> this guy, this cleric now in yemen, he was in touch with the

9/11 hijackers. right? why wasn't that a red flag for the army to say, why are you talking to this guy? >> i don't understand. like i say, it's not against the law. but it should be against the military code of conduct. there should be no active duty military officers who are allowed to have open communication with a known terror suspect unle they are working on the investigation. anyone is is suspected of that should be pulled aside and questioned and they should not be put in a situation where they are in charge of talking to other solars about their problems. r . >> this congressman, he said that overseas jihadists are radicalizing people around the country. is this happening from abroad and they are influencing people in this country? is that happening? >> we don't know if this guy is radicalized. >> do you think he is a nut or

is he radicalized? >> he can be a radical nut. >> i guess. >> there is a compromise. >> they don't blot out each other. you know, there are -- congressmen and senators get in on this. and i am not sure that what we need is politicians looking at this. i would rather see an investigation, a real win by the fbi and the army/military intelligence go forward and then let's let the congressmen weigh in with their two cents. >> there is a lot of talk about political correctness in all of this. how much of that do you think played into it? >> i have no idea. >> were they afraid to turn him in because they will appear anti-muslim? >> who knows. i have no idea if that is part of the equation. you know, you could definitely

make that argument and speculate in that direction. it would be plausible, that because of his own experiences i would hesitate to go that step. >> he also said something about how muslims should be considered conscientious objectors in the army so they can opt out of the army. margaret, why do they go into the army in the first place if they realize that we're fighting other muslims around the world? >> well, they may want to be good citizens. they may think they can acclimate. they may want a job. many muslims. you know, most muslims, and i think this is where the political correctness comes in, you know, we don't want muslims to be discriminated against because 99.9% of muslims are practicing religion that's honorable and nonviolent. >> i know. >> that doesn't mean when you

see someone, hey, he doesn't have to be a muslim. what he did, if anybody did it, would be horrible. >> that's right. margaret, charles, stay with me. more when we come back. i want to talk about health care, too. this is a health care bill,

this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill. we're not looking to change what is a core principle that has been in place for a very long time which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions. >> it may not be an abortion bill, but let's be clear. this amendment places new abortion restrictions on women. am i right, margaret? >> you're right. joy, can i say that since bette midler came and talked about politics i thought charles and i might get to sing "the wind beneath my wings" instead of

talking about health care, which by the way, i talk about about 23 hours a day. truth be told, these -- i mean, this has almost nothing to do with abortion or health care, but it's a way to raise a hot-button issue and derail the health care bill. you know, we -- women have had restrictions placed on abortion, you know, the right to choose abortion is now extending to the right to choose insurance that has abortion coverage. if this goes through, it's not just federal funds, but it will end up restricting any insurance in the insurance exchange which involves private money. >> i know. >> and the states say, well, i mean, the pro-life people say, well, you can buy an abortion writer. in the states which that's been raised, not one insurance company has offered such a thing and in any event it's very costly. >> also, why would a woman buy a writer for an abortion when an abortion is an -- you get pregnant accidentally. it's not something you plan. >> right. it's not -- you're so right. it's not like getting insurance to, you know, so that your baby visits are covered at the

pediatrician's office. >> i found it interesting democratic congressman loretta sanchez, this morning i saw you with her on "good morning joe," she said we have to acknowledge the house of representatives is not majority pro-choice. i thought that was -- i couldn't believe my ears because 52% of americans and 57% of democrats identify themselves as pro-choice, but the house of representatives does not reflect the american population. >> yeah, because that's not gender equality in the house of representatives. you have more men in the house -- you know, generally a 50/50 split in the general population but not in congress. you have more men. >> so is the secret, margaret, to just elect more women so that women will finally get everything they -- we deserve and should have?

>> joy, that's the secret to everything. more women. charles, i don't mean to leave you out here, but joy -- >> charles can be in it. he has his head in the right place and his heart in the right place, also. he's okay. we like him. >> women and people we let in. which is what men have been doing for years. the makeup of the congress, even of the democratic party now has a lot of social conservatives in it because the idea was to expand -- while the republicans are shrinking their tent, democrats have been expanding their tent and there are a lot of democrats elected in districts that mccain won candidly. those are the ones that are right picking for republican conservatives. >> i ran out of time. you want to quickly? >> i'm just saying, it's not a mistake that, no accident that, you know, abortions might get voted against and viagra's covered. we can't get pregnant. >> that is really annoying. thanks to my panel for joining me tonight and thank you all for

watching. good night, everybody.

breaking news tonight. live to florida. exclusive enclave, ponte vedra coast. a high-powered money man comes home to find his young wife with cover girl good looks, the mother of his two little girls, gone, vanished. left behind, a handwritten ransom note demanding $50,000 in exchange for the life of wife and mother, quinn gray. she allegedly suffers a horrific ordeal, kidnap, abuse, sex attack. tonight, after the $50,000 is paid in cold cash, cops close in to nab the alleged kidnapper and accomplice. kicker? it's mommy. mommy herself, along with her

brand new boy toy. that's right. they faked it. tonight, secret audio between mommy and her boyfriend and police interrogations emerge. we have the tapes. bye-bye, good times. hello, hard time, mommy. >> sheriff's office, 911. what's your emergency? >> my name is quinn gray, and i was kidnapped and i'm not sure where i am right now. >> right now i definitely need you for five minutes. i'm going crazy about you. >> what? >> i'm going crazy about you. >> i'm not a slut, you know. >> does reid get this much action? >> he started kissing on my ear and my neck and -- >> how did you react at that point?

>> i just -- i kind of reacted just still at first, you know, a little bit still. and then i started to act like i enjoyed it a little bit. and he started to kiss me and -- >> and what was your frame of mind at that point? what was going through your mind when this was happening? >> my frame of mind was we're going to have sex. and i'm going to have sex with him and that's all. yeah, all my clothes come off. >> okay. >> yeah, he helps me but i'm helping too. and i acted like i enjoyed it. and i'm not going to lie, sometimes i almost did. i knew i wasn't going to -- to resist him. so i tried to make it the best possible. you know? and he would just -- over and over and over and over and over again. and sometimes i would -- i would say what he wanted me to say, i did whatever he wanted me to do. also tonight, in the last hours a 5-year-old little north carolina girl vanishes without a

trace from the child's own home. it happened around 5:30 a.m. wait. is the sun even up then? the child wearing nothing but a t-shirt and underwear. as you know, the first 48 hours so critical tonight. where is 5-year-old shaniya? >> police in fayetteville, north carolina are searching for this 5-year-old girl. please look at her. this is shaniya nicole davis. >> police say 5-year-old shaniya davis disappeared this morning from her mobile home at the sleepy hollow mobile home park off murchison road. authorities have been searching for her since they got a call from her mother this morning. they've searched on foot. they've searched in the air. and they've even searched using tracking dogs, but so far no luck. >> she's three feet tall, 40

pounds, brown hair and brown eyes and she was last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and no shoes. she also has a scar on her left foot. good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. live to florida. exclusive enclave, ponte vedra coast. a high-powered money man comes home to find his wife, the mother of his two little girls, gone, vanished. left behind, a handwritten ransom note demanding $50,000. after the $50,000 paid in cold cash, the cops nab the alleged kidnapper and accomplice. kicker? it's mommy. mommy, herself, along with her brand new lover. that's right. they faked the whole thing. bye-bye, good times. hello, hard time, mommy. >> so at some point, either at the get-go or somewhere in between the beginning and the end, the boy toy, 25-year-old lover, starts taping mommy.

37-year-old quinn gray.

>> so at some point, either at the get-go or somewhere in between the beginning and the end, the boy toy, 25-year-old lover, starts taping mommy. 37-year-old quinn gray. during their sex sessions, while they are discussing the fake kidnap plot, discussing blowing the head off of her husband, the father of her two little children. to ellie jostad, our chief editorial producer on the story, we've learned a lot since last night, when we first started the story. >> mm-hmm. that's correct, nancy. a lot of details in this police affidavit that we received. quinn gray apparently first aroused suspicion with cops when they said it sounded like she was making up the details as she went along. initially telling them this story about being abducted by these loan sharks who her husband owed money to. later saying she was sexually assaulted.

then going into great detail about this alleged sex assault with the kidnapper, including what type of sex acts were involved and many other details about that time she spent with this alleged abductor. >> tonight, secret audiotapes between quinn and the boyfriend as well as police interrogation tapes emerge. take a listen.

>> okay. unleash the lawyers. joining me tonight, susan moss, new york. raymond giudice, defense attorney, atlanta. jason oshins, defense attorney in new york. okay, ray. you're the defense attorney. what's your defense? i mean, come on, ray. before you were a defense attorney, as i recall, you were an assistant solicitor in a very, very business -- very busy jurisdiction. now, did you ever, ever when you were over in felony court hear a rape victim describe, quote, being kissed on the ear and the neck? >> no. >> how she had sex a lot? how she pretended to enjoy it?

>> wait a second now. >> come on. ray. >> hold on. >> no rape victim says we had sex a lot. >> i agree but -- >> and rape is a violent rape. >> you said many things, and let me pick a piece of it. i have heard victims say that they cooperated in an effort to save their life. and nancy, let me say one thing. many years ago, when you were very young, patty hearst was videotaped robbing a bank with an m-16 rifle. she was acquitted of that bank robbery by proving that she had been brainwashed and kidnapped and went along for fear of her own life and safety -- >> okay. pause. put giudice up on the screen. put him up. >> i'm here. >> number one, i never believed patty hearst. that was complete b.s. >> she -- >> number two. no, you had your turn. number two, she was held by the symbion lebanese army -- >> that's right. >> -- for many, many weeks. this woman was held according to her for 24 hours. you're saying all this b.s.,

ray -- >> my point is don't jump to the automatic conclusion because you haven't heard all the facts, as usual. >> ray? >> yes, nancy. >> are you suggesting this is a real kidnap? >> i'm suggesting she may have some defenses that may -- >> i'm asking you, are you saying this is a real kidnap? >> i don't know the answer. as a defense lawyer i'm going to defend -- you asked me to defend her. i'm going to defend her. >> maybe you should listen to sue moss' rendition sue -- of the facts. >> well, i'd like to see sue do a defense. >> it has been absolutely unequivocally proven there was no kidnap. she was with her younger boyfriend the whole time. we have tapes of them having sex and laughing about the whole thing. this is not a kidnap. so to suggest that she said all this under duress is ridiculous. you've got to have a different defense. >> absolutely. this is the worst. he thinks he's married to patty hearst. i've got to tell you something. love might be blind but this guy's out of his mind.

and i don't buy it. and i don't buy it for many reasons. first of all, her words are what are going to destroy her. she's very clear. she knows what she's doing and is very competent when she's speaking about this whole plan with her boy toy. >> what about it, jason oshins?

every night hln's nancy grace brings you the real drama straight from the courtroom. >> every lawyer has a different version of what they would think justice is. >> tnt mondays. "raising the bar" is all new. >> to me justice is a jury rendering a verdict that speaks the truth. >> do you trust him? because that's what this case comes down to. >> stephen bochco's "raising the bar" mondays at 10:00 on tnt. and pick up nancy's new book "the eleventh victim," available now wherever books are sold. an alleged kidnap victim caught on tape. by now you know her name. quinn gray. accused of plotting to extort money from her husband in a bizarre scheme that ended in two arrests. during the investigation quinn gray is interviewed by the fbi. an agent asks her about her relationship with her husband, reid, saying the police have information claiming she wanted to leave him and just wanted a car, the kids, and $50,000. >> secret tapes emerge. tapes of the alleged kidnap victim, 37-year-old mother and

>> secret tapes emerge. tapes of the alleged kidnap victim, 37-year-old mother and wife, quinn gray, along with her 25-year-old lover as well as police interrogation tapes. we are taking your calls live. out to the lines, connie in kentucky. hi, connie. >> caller: yes. thank you for taking my call.

>> thank you for calling in, dear. what's your question? >> caller: i heard that mr. gray was having an affair in june. do you think his wife was getting back at him and having an affair of her own? >> you know what? i think that's entirely possible, connie in kentucky. and that's their business. that's their can of worms. but when you start faking an abduction and you try to extort $50,000 from your own husband and have discussions about, quote, blowing his head off, i think that's gone beyond revenge. to mark williams, anchor and reporter, joining us out of the florida jurisdiction. mark williams, is it true? we've heard all these allegations he had affairs, she had affairs. i want to know who's taking care of the two little girls while these two are running around having all these affairs. and who cares if they were having affairs? i care about a felony. >> well, the kids are being -- obviously being taken care of by family members. reid gray is still living in that $4 million posh estate in ponte vedra beach, which is in st. john's county, abuts the atlantic ocean. it's a great place. as a matter of fact, their mortgage payments are, like, 25 grand a month. can you imagine that? >> no. >> the deal is that family members are taking care of the

kids and they -- >> wait a minute. look, mark. i don't know if you can see the photos that we're showing the viewers. here they are on vacation. we just showed christmas tree shots. there they are. i don't know. maybe at a vacation rental. didn't anybody ever stop to think what this would all do to these two little children? >> obviously, quinn gray didn't think of that. she bore those two children with her husband, and that obviously didn't come to mind whatsoever, nancy. >> you know, i'm certainly no example. i admit that right up front. all right? i've done plenty of horrible things before. but you know, even if i speed driving down the street, i think oh, how am i going to tell the twins when they're 16 not to speed? if i'm doing it myself. god forbid if they see me do it. i mean, didn't anybody -- out to you, wendy walsh, dr. walsh, psychologist, expert. these two are having all these

affairs, which i really frankly don't give a fig about. what i care about is her extorting $50,000 and leading police on a wild goose chase while legitimate cases were being ignored. but did they ever think what this could do to their two little girls? >> exactly. the real victims here, nancy, are these poor children in this. first of all, they're not showing any remorse, not even for each other. how are they showing that they can even model a healthy relationship for their kids? and now this. mommy in a mental evaluation institution. daddy backing her up. what kind of moral lesson is this to a child? >> to attorney jason oshins. jason, look. i've known you a long time, and i know how your life changed when you had your two children. everything you do now you think about them. are these two that incredibly self-absorbed they don't realize what this will do to their children? >> i think, you know, we're looking at the illness that obviously alcoholism has come to

play in their lives -- >> don't start up with alcohol being a mental illness, because it is not under the law. >> it's a disease. you're right. their mental illness resulting from the alcoholism clearly has come to this point in their lives. >> would that be i got drunk and took a 25-year-old lover and planned to blow my husband's head off illness? jason oshins, would that be the illness? >> we need to examine more of what's -- >> do you have a shred of evidence to suggest a mental illness? >> we need to look more at what's going on -- >> that's a yes/no. >> yes. we need to look more at it. this behavior is dangerous to the children. >> no, the question is have you seen anything in the facts -- >> not yet, nancy. >> okay. so there is no mental illness that you know of? >> no, not as of now. >> at least you're honest. >> yep. always.

among the evidence obtained, these pictures taken of quinn gray after the ordeal. she said she had been tied up and held hostage. >> my frame of mind was we're going to have sex. and i'm going to have sex with him and that's all. yeah, all my clothes come off. >> okay. >> yeah, he helps me, but i'm helping too. and i acted like i enjoyed it. and i'm not going to lie, sometimes i almost did. i knew i wasn't going to resist him. so i tried to make it the best possible.

>> please, save it. ellie jostad, isn't it true that the cops have pinged her cell phone and while she told them she was in a warehouse or she was in a car, in a van, and transferred from vehicle to vehicle in various parking lots she was in a hotel shacked up with her lover the whole time? >> right. well, police say that this alleged lover, jasmin osmanovic, told them that not only did he never tie her up he said she willingly participated in any of the sexual activity. he says he left her alone in the vehicle with the car keys, he left her alone in the room. he said one time she even left on her own to go buy beer. now, there's hotel employees that corroborate that she was there by herself a lot of the time, she seemed calm, she didn't seem like she was there under duress. >> so ray, under your theory, the stockholm defense, where kidnap victims begin to identify with the kidnapper, she felt she had to go to the quick trip and get a six-pack, right?

>> her testimony may be that he he threatened her that if she didn't do that he would kill her and her children. listen, there's no insanity defense here. i think jason's right on target. but if you're her counsel, you've got to start to craft something. >> did you have a sexual relationship with osmanovic? >> no, i did not. i did not know him. >> why would someone make this stuff up? >> you wouldn't make it up if it was the truth. ddddddddd

>> did you try to take money from your husband? >> of course not. if i wanted $50,000, all i would do is take it out of the bank account. >> he started kissing on my ear and my neck and -- >> how did you react at that point? >> i kind of reacted just still at first, you know, a little bit still, and then i started to act like i enjoyed it a little bit. and he started to kiss me and -- >> and what was your frame of mind at that point? what was going through your mind

when this was happening? >> my frame of mind was we're going to have sex. and i'm going to have sex with him and that's all. yeah, all my clothes come off. >> okay. >> yeah. he helps me, but i'm helping too. and i acted like i enjoyed it. and i'm not going to lie, sometimes i almost did. i knew i wasn't going to -- to resist him. so i tried to make it the best possible. you know? and he would just over and over and over and over and over again. and sometimes i would -- i would say what he wanted me to say and do whatever he wanted me to do. >> we are taking your calls live. out to marc klaas, president and founder klaaskids foundation. marc, i know your specialty is looking for and finding missing children. in fact, i saw photos.

you were too modest to say anything about it. of your team with canines when little shannon went missing last week. your people, your team was there. and they helped find little shannon alive. but i want to go to you on this story, on this issue. marc, you and i have seen so many missing people, kidnapped people, murders. you and i are both crime victims. when i see something like this faked, and i think about the cops spending about a quarter million dollars trying to find this lady, this heather locklear look-alike, no offense heather, it just kills me. when i think of people calling 911 that day -- and i'm not saying cops ignored those calls. i'm just saying there could have been more cops, more detectives on those cases while miss thing was propped up in a hotel room with a 25-year-old lover. >> yeah. there's no question about that.

you know, when they were trying to synchronize their stories, he said to her, like i said, we have the whole day today. whenever you want, whenever you feel comfortable, i'll drop you off. okay? those, nancy, are not the words of any person that's ever kidnapped anybody in the history of the world. she is a willing participant and a co-conspirator in her own kidnapping, and she needs to be punished for this. and i almost think this is a kind of crime that deserves a penalty enhancement. because it does divert resources. it does create skepticism on the part of the public. and we really just can't stand for that as a society. and you know, law enforcement has very limited resources these days. they can't be running around chasing these silly little husband and wife soap opera plots. it's crazy. it's nuts.

>> well, the other thing, if you take a look at this, what these children, her children are going to go through, what they're probably already going through if they're back at school, what the other children are saying to them after mommy pulled this high jinx, and what's really wrong is that some judge, mark williams, anchor/reporter, joining us out of florida, was finagled into letting her go into a, quote, rehab at st. simons island, georgia. you know what's down there? one of the biggest five-star hotels, the cloister, in the world. the most luxurious golf courses. the most beautiful beaches. and she is there in, quote, rehab? i've never heard a bigger crock. and yes, that's a technical legal term, in my life. what judge did that? >> well, here's the deal, nancy, is her husband is now standing, of course, by his wife, saying that she has bipolar -- she's bipolar because her mother and her grandmother were both bipolar. and he finagled that the bond be lowered to where it was

acceptable. she got out of jail saying that oh, we're going to take her to st. simons so she could get help. well, she's in st. simons. her boy toy is in the st. john's county jail right now. luckily, not on a kidnapping charge, just on an extortion charge. >> that's not right. that's not right at all. to dr. gwenn o'keeffe, pediatrician, founder and ceo pediatricsnow.com. dr. o'keefe, what can extreme emotional duress do to children? say, these two little girls, they both go to a school that i know that i'm not naming, you know the other children are going to mock them about their mom, what their mom has done. you know that. what could that conceivably do to them? >> you know, nancy, this is a real mess for these kids because this mom has lied. the family situation sounds really stressful. these kids are going to be really made fun of and put through the ringers.

and it's being played out in the public face and on the media. this is a tough situation for these kids. and the stress will be enormous. these kids are going to need a lot of support. they're going to need a lot of fact checking. and if the mom is bipolar, which i think is questionable, but if she is that's going to add a huge amount of extra burden to them because we don't know what the mother's mood swings were, whether she was up, whether she was down, so these kids need a lot of work. >> dr. o'keeffe, if this woman is bipolar, it's a surprise to everybody because she's never said a word about it. she's never been diagnosed or treated until her husband blurted it out, i think, on the "today show." ron shindell, former nypd inspector, what should police be doing right now? they've got the co-conspirator in their pocket. they've got him on tape. they've got her on tape. do they have to do anything or is the case open and shut? >> nancy, i think in this case they have to stop laughing. this is the most inept criminal i have seen in some time. they have all of these things put together. she's handed them this case on a platter for them to turn it -- >> a silver platter.

>> a silver platter for them to turn it from a kidnapping to the worst bungled, inept crime out there that i've seen to date. >> out to the lines, sabrina, new york. hi, sabrina. >> caller: hi, nancy. i would just like to start out by saying it's an honor to speak with you and i love everything about you. you're an inspiration to all women. and may god bless you and your twins. >> you know, i appreciate that compliment, and i want to thank you for your blessing on the twins. they just turned 2 years old. and i remember laying in intensive care, and they were in intensive care on the other side of the hospital. and i remember praying, god, if you can just help me get them to age 2. because then i think, you know, they'll be sturdy and they'll have a chance. i revised that prayer this past wednesday when they turned 2. i said if you can just help me get them through to 25, because then i think they'll be sturdy and established. so i've had to revise that. but thank you.

what's your question, dear? >> caller: my concern was about quinn gray's statement to the cops, where she said we're going to have sex and that she was going to make it as best as possible. you know, to me usually a rape victim doesn't refer to rape as sex and they definitely don't try to make it the best as possible. that sounds consensual to me. what do you think? >> well, it sounds more than consensual to me, sabrina in new york. it sounds like complete b.s. i was trying to make that point to defense attorney raymond giudice and jason oshins earlier, which they refuse to acknowledge. what about it, dr. walsh? >> it sounds to me like those words are anticipatory rather than fearful, don't you think? my frame of mind is not i was terrified. it's we're going to have sex. i mean, think of her choice. she's really almost hung herself by the way she's explained it.

out to the lines. elizabeth, texas. hi, elizabeth. >> caller: hi, nancy. my better half is a former prosecutor and current defense attorney, family law. i think the daddy may be sticking by momma and maybe shuffling assets, and i'd like to ask ray giudice, would you move in on mama with divorce papers with full custody of the kids and assets before or after she's convicted? >> good question. what about it, ray? >> well, right now the father's, the husband's position is that he's in love with her and he wants to be with her. but it raises an interesting point. you know, she could have filed for divorce and certainly gotten more than $50,000 in alimony and

child support. so it's all very curious. >> well, jason oshins, i believe she feared she wouldn't get custody because she just got out of rehab for alcohol. >> come on, nancy. there's a lot more to this. i mean, you listen to law enforcement -- >> i didn't say there wasn't. i'm just telling you. that regarding money, you know, she feared if she sought a divorce as opposed to faking this kidnapping she wasn't so sure that she would get all that money. >> it's just disturbing, the whole aspect of it. the amount of money she's even asking, as ray said, it doesn't all add up. there's something more to scratch the surface. and listen, we're defense attorneys. we've got to work with what we have here. and certainly the story in and of itself is so weak and so not thought out in terms of -- >> you know what? note to self. >> yes. >> when faking one's own kidnapping, contact oshins and giudice because you guys are saying this with such a straight face. i'm interpreting what you last said was look, when you don't

have anywhere to go you've got to make up something, you've got to do something. out to the lines -- >> exactly. >> -- barbara in new york. hi, barbara. >> caller: what a tremendous honor to speak with you. i adore your shows, and i admire you so much for really everything that you do as a mother, as a journalist, as a writer. i have "eleventh victim." and i think you're awesome, nancy grace. tremendous blessings to you and your mom who made you go to church that day. i remember what you said. threatened you with reform school or something. >> industrial school for girls to learn a trade. that's what she said. >> caller: regarding mama, she spent time in hazelton to treat her alcoholism as per what her husband said in an interview, and if you go to a place like hazleton, i find it very hard to believe that the health care professionals there didn't pick up on the fact that she was bipolar which is why i don't believe her husband right now. >> i think you're right. and as he said, barbara, you and

i saw the same interview, it's as of yet undiagnosed and untreated. the daddy's just throwing something out there to see what sticks. she's never been diagnosed as bipolar. and you're right. at hazleton they would have found that. they are one of the premier rehabs in the world. you're right, barbara. in new york. everybody, i want to switch gears very quickly. i want to tell you about a missing little girl, shaniya. it's urgent. take a listen. >> authorities say the little girl was inside the mobile home with her mother and another adult, both of home are being questioned by police at police headquarters. every car that's been leaving the mobile home park is being searched by fayetteville police. police say they've made the disturbing discovery a known child sex offender lives inside the mobile home park. >> that's why we have the sheriff's department out here as well. we have the expert out here from the sheriff's department that deals with the child sex offenders. so they're out here.

>> this is a picture of the little girl everybody's been looking for. >> this is the number to the fayetteville police department. it is 910-433-1851. or if you think you know something, if you think you see her, you can always just call 911. >> we need your help. this little girl, if she is still living, needs your help. look at this girl. her name's shaniya davis. she's only 5. to gurnal scott with wptf radio. gurnal, something's not right about the story. give me the nuts and bolts of what happened. >> well, as we know right now, nancy, the child was last seen in the home around 5:30 or so in the morning. the call wasn't made to police, or police didn't respond, should i say, until about two hours later or so. and that's when the search ensued for this 5-year-old little girl, shaniya. helicopters, search dogs had been out. the thing about the search dogs,

they never picked up a scent of the child outside the home. that's a little disturbing to police officers because if there was any trace of the child outside the home they say the dogs would have picked that up. so as of right now, and the search has been called off for this evening, but as of right now police -- no one knows exactly where 5-year-old shaniya is. >> i'm just sick about it, gurnal scott. you know, gurnal scott, you and i go back a long way covering stories. >> yeah, we do. >> what are police saying about this? or is simply their silence deafening? >> well, there are things we're learning about this case as it goes along. we're finding out that dss was no stranger to this household. there had been custody issues that they have dealt with in this household from time to time. there had at some point been drugs found in this house. so they're not saying that this is involved in this case per se, but if you're a police officer and you're doing this investigation you have to keep

that in mind. >> marlaina schiavo, what more can you tell me? >> well, what i can tell you, nancy, is that the police also don't know how this little girl left the home. that's the mystery they're trying to figure out. they have questioned all the neighbors in the area including the three sex offenders that live in the immediate area. so far no suspects at this time. so that's what police are saying right now. and unfortunately, like gurnal said, there were major, they call it major dss issues in that home. and dss has visited that home many times. >> and marc klaas, president, founder klaaskids foundation, when we're saying dcfs we're talking about department of family and children's services. weigh in, marc klaas. >> certainly, this is an unusual situation because the amber alert was called very quickly after law enforcement responded. regardless of the fact that they didn't have a vehicle -- vehicle information for the suspect. and i think that that's a credit

to them because it brings vast resources to the case almost immediately. the fact that the dogs were unable to pick up her scent certainly doesn't mean she didn't leave the trailer. it means she was probably carried out of the trailer. again, i think what we're going to find in this case as in so many others is it's going to be solved much closer to home than farther away from home. >> you know, you put that so beautifully that it would be solved close to home. everyone, we're taking your calls live. with us, marc klaas, gurnal scott. tonight's salute to the troops. robin gregory salutes her 24-year-old son army private first class aaron oxenford. a musician who loves animals, especially his beloved dog back home, curtis. >> i'm robin gregory. my salute is going out to my wonderful son private first class aaron oxenford. he's going to pick on me by the end of this because i am going to cry.

aaron, we're all very proud of you. we want you to be safe. please know that we love you and can't wait for you to come home. i might not understand why you've joined the army fully, but i'm very proud of what you're doing. i do want to let you know my dog still does not have hair. he shaved my dog's hair off and it didn't grow back.

>> out to the lines. sheeba, illinois. hi, sheeba. >> caller: hi, nancy. my question is, how -- and i just love you to pieces. >> likewise. >> caller: love you to pieces. my question is, how can two adults be in a house, whether they're awake or asleep or whatever, and let a child be snatched?

they would have to kill me, because i would grab an iron skillet, whatever it took, and i'd go to work on them. >> i tell you what, sheeba, i've been thinking about this story. they say they last saw her at 5:30 a.m., this beautiful, beautiful little girl. look at her. shaniya, 5 years old. now, i've been thinking about the scenario. all i can come up with, gurnal scott, wptf radio, assuming they're telling the truth, they looked in on her at 5:30 a.m., she was asleep then later she was gone out of her bed. that's the only scenario i can think of. at 5:30 a.m. the sun's not even up. they said she was wearing a blue sleep t-shirt and pink underwear. that's all she was wearing. what do you know, gurnal? >> that is correct. what they were saying about the people in the home at the time,

shaniya's 7-year-old brother and a person whom they have only identified possibly as a boyfriend. they are looking at all of these people. they've interviewed these people but they are not being specific about how this child left this home. >> let me give the tip line. with me, gurnal scott, marlaina schiavo, marc klaas. 910-433-1856. 910-433-1856. please help us find shaniya. let's stop and remember marine staff sergeant, martin golczynski, 30. lewisville, tennessee. killed iraq. an all-state wrestler. remembered for his zest for life and smile that lit up a home. never misses a birthday. sent birthday greetings from iraq. leaves behind parents, henry and elaine, brother, john, son, christian. marcus golczynski. american hero. thank you to our guests but especially to you for being with us. special thank you to new york

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