is there new bombshell evidence that shows casey anthony did not kill her daughter? her defense attorney says yes. now he's filed a motion to introduce new evidence in the murder case. what he's saying today. oprah makes it official after a quarter century on the air she'll walk away from her daytime talk show. what is the queen of talk to do? a church in phoenix not allowed to feed the homeless. the city says the church is violating an ordinance by helping the hungry. thanksgiving just around the corner. do you think the city is going too far? this is hln "news and views." i'm richelle carey. thank you for your time. let's get started. lawyers for casey anthony say someone else should be investigated for the murder of

her toddler, caylee. the defense attorney filed a motion last night. kronk first reported last december finding something suspicious and turned out later to be caylee's remains. baez spoke with our sister network earlier today. >> it's extremely important that we be clear about something. we're not accusing roy kronk of committing this crime. however, what we feel is that law enforcement should have investigated each and every witness with the same vigor they investigated casey and they did not. they never even asked for mr. kronk's phone records. we had to do that much later. >> in response to the allegations, kronk's attorney had this to say. roy had a giant bucket of mud poured over his head with that motion and he denies all of the

allegations that are contained within it. he's only been a witness in this case from the beginning and no one from law enforcement ever indicated that he's been a suspect of any wrongdoing other than a hefty dose of character assassination i didn't see anything other than a defense tactic to throw suspicions away from the defendant onto another individual. casey anthony remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her young daughter. tonight an exclusive on "issues with jane velez-mitchell." jane speaks with jose baez about the defense tactic and talk about casey and her behavior and relationship with her parents. don't miss jose baez with jane velez-mitchell right here on hln. a little over an hour from now, the man charged with raping and killing 5-year-old shaniya davis will be in a courtroom in north carolina. a search warrant says mario mcneill pick up shaniya from her

mother's home and drove 30 miles to a hotel. surveillance video from that tuesday shows him carrying that 5-year-old into the building. monday her body was found six miles from that hotel. authorities believe shaniya was sexually assaulted and died of asphyxiation. her mother is charged with trafficking her daughter and child abuse involving prostitution but so far she's not been charged with murder. hln's nancy grace wants to know why. >> why not a murder charge on mommy? she handed her child over for this child to be put into prostitution. a 5-year-old girl. that's a felony. this is a felony murder. she according to police committed a murder and a death occurred. she didn't have to plan the murder for her to be charged with felony murder. >> it's coming. i can't imagine they think

there's state's evidence and she'll have something because they don't have mcneill good enough. >> they don't need her. kessler, you tried plenty of cases. they don't need this mom's cooperation. i think she's done plenty. they don't need her to roll over on mcneill. >> i hope that's not what they're waiting for. maybe she'll be desperate enough to start talking hoping she'll get a deal and then she's charged. >> police are investigated whether davis gave her daughter to mcneill to settle a drug debt. nancy grace has the late breaking developments. that's tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln "news and views." millions of oprah winfrey fans are probably saying it ain't so. the queen of talk just made it official announcing during a taping this morning she's ending her talk show in 2011 after

nearly a quarter century on the air and in her home. kareen wynter is outside harpo studios in chicago where the queen of daytime made the announcement. i have to say, one of the silliest things i ever done when i was in chicago i passed by the studio at 2:00 in the morning. i made my friends stop. i said stop. i have to get out just to take a picture in front of her studio at 2:00 in the morning. >> reporter: not silly at all. this is my first time here. it's just really something standing next to this building. it represents so much. this woman has done so many incredible things and you're not alone. i'm used to saying oprah. that's easier. flows better. with today's announcement it marked the end of an era. we're right outside harpo productions where "the oprah winfrey show" is taped each week. it's pretty much it. today historic day. she told her audience what had been circulating out there the fact that come 2011 her show

will definitely be ending. she put all rumors to rest and basically addressed any concerns or questions anyone may have had out there as to why, why now and to that the queen of talk responded i love this show. the show has been my life and i love it enough to know when it's time to say good-bye. 25 years feels right in my bones and it feels right in my spirit. it's a perfect number. the exact right time. she wiped away some tears we're told. many members of the audience inside were crying as well. she really left things on a high note. she said that she wants to really have viewers go on this ride, this journey with her, for the next 18 months toward the final show. she said let the countdown begin. they'll start season 25 early next year and she'll enjoy every moment of it down to the last show hoping viewers will as well. >> it was a memorable moment for the world because she's been

there -- this will be her 25th year. she said she feelt like it was time. 25 years was her time. do i feel it's her time? no. i think oprah will always thereby for everyone. >> i got choked up as well. it was so -- she's sincerely is going to miss this and her fans love her so much and she's done so much for the world. this is her baby. >> it's sad. it's sad. she like you said we grew up with her and watched her -- i watched her in college and watched her through the babies. it's sad. the good to her. good for her for taking a break and realizing enough is enough. >> reporter: one thing our sources told us at this winfrey reveal is she needed to focus on her new company, the oprah

winfrey network come early next year. they'll launch it and she wants to focus her attention on that be and perhaps bringing a show to o.w.n. >> you know it will be fabulous. she doesn't do halfway. all right. >> reporter: fans here said they'll be following her. if she moves to another network, we'll be there with you. >> thank you so much. stop feeding the hungry. yeah. why a church in arizona has been told to quit handing out hot meals to the homeless.

jrks. >> a story has you all fired up. a church in arizona told to stop feeding the homeless. now the aclu offered to help this church called the crossroads united methodist church. the church in phoenix again has been told that they can't feed

the homeless because neighbors started to complain. they said the homeless were caught -- how do we put this -- relieving themselves in the area even camping out in some people's backyards. earlier this month a judge ruled the church violated a city ordinance by serving meals in a residential area. so why not just feed the homeless elsewhere. a lot of people asked that question on our facebook page. we made phone calls about this. this is what the pastor said. this is a city wide ordinance. if the church moves, it could set a precedent for other churches in phoenix. the church hasn't decided whether it will accept help from the aclu. an appeal scheduled for next month. until then it plans to keep feeding the hungry. this is the question of the day. do you think the rule of law goes too far or do the people living here have a point and they're not cold hearted? robby calls from ohio. you understand where the neighborhood is coming from.

>> caller: i agree with this. this is a neighborhood. there's children, babies that play. also just not fair to parent. they shouldn't have to go to the park and worry whether there will be homeless people attacking their children. >> having said that, we're not aware that -- the neighborhood says they've had troubles but we're not aware of any type of crime yet. we don't want to give the impression that homeless people are attacking children. >> caller: do you want to take that chance? >> my question is to you and not to me. we don't want to give that impression. i understand what you're saying. as someone living there you would be concerned. i didn't want to put misinformation out there. >> caller: the church really wants to help, can't they set up somewhere farther away from a neighborhood where they could do something once a week, a meal program or just another idea. >> actually, someone else had that same question. we posed that to the church. the church is saying that they also have church for these people that they bus in and they

feel like if they are forced to leave, they won't be able to have church on their own premises. people certainly thing that should be an option. we appreciate your phone call. he seems to be about solution and compromise. cindy is calling us from missouri. you sound upset. >> caller: i'm professionally a social worker. i have on and off over the last 20 years worked with the homeless. i also find myself after coming out of a marriage being homeless in a strange community. i've been on both sides of it. i also lived in an upstanding neighborhood. i have remarried and everything is fine. what i want to point out is face of homelessness is not criminal drug dealers. right now it's veterans. it's families down on their luck. it's people who no longer have the mental health services they need. they're not violent. they're not able to maintain their lives. these are not people who will prey on people. i want to make sure that

communities understand that. right now there is a -- this is a grossly neglected section of humanity. people need a place to go. there is a way that they can craft organized transportation in and out of the neighborhood so that there's always somebody hosting them for pick up and drop-off points. they get there. they leave. idea of putting the church on the outskirts, that's not a bad idea. my concern is that simply the homelessness -- >> i understand your point. >> caller: these are people -- >> we need to move on. i appreciate it. just need to move on to get more comments and more perspectives.

richelle carey hln is my facebook page. so many comments there. clay wrote this -- rebecca wrote this -- let's hear from you. it's the discussion you're having on facebook and text and e-mails and phones is trying to put yourself in the shoes of both people. let's keep talking about it.

is pushing the rule of law too far? what if this were your neighborhood? is helping the less fortunate sup supercede any type of zoning law? e-mail us. call us right now at 877-tell-hln. a jury could soon begin deciding the fate at the center of a racially charged incident in missouri. what heather ellis, the defendant said, when she took the stand in her own defense today.

the woman at the center of a racially charged incident at a walmart in missouri says she's not to blame for what happened. heather ellis took the stand today in her own defense denying ani any misbehavior during this incident. they say that ellis cut in line at the store and refused to leave. this is newly released video

showing ellis moving another customer's items off of the conveyer belt. the manager said ellis brought race into the scuffle. >> she look at me and told me i want anything but a stupid white uneducated walmart employee and she called betsy an old gray headed lady, the cashier. that's when i said just a minute. i said you don't know me. i don't know you. >> the video goes on to show police arresting ellis. officers say she kicked them and she hit them but ellis said she was assaulted but it's not shown on the tape. the jury could get the case as early as today. ellis is facing 15 years in prison if she's found guilty. a man accused of secretly taking nude videos of espn commentator erin andrews will make his first court appearance in los angeles today. 47-year-old michael barrett shot the video of andrews through the people hole in her hotel room

door facing one count of interstate stalking. prosecutors say barrett tried to sell the video to the celebrity website tmz. they also say he downpour loaded other videos of women to the internet. he could face up to five years in federal prison and be fined. another new set of testing guidelines for women but unlike the mammogram controversy it's getting support from the american cancer society. we're talking about guidelines for cervical cancer. the american college of obstetricians and gynecologists say most women in their 20s only need a pap smear every two years instead of every year and women don't need their first until they're 21 and women over the age of 30 can go three years after three consecutive clear tests. american cancer society says 11,000 new cases of cervical cancer will be diagnosed this year and more than 4,000 of them will die of it. half of women diagnosed have never had a pap. senators are cutting their

thanksgiving vacation short to vote on health care reform. this is a very rare move. they'll meet tomorrow to decide whether to just open debate on the democrats plan. it will extend coverage to 30 million people at an estimated cost of $38.8 billion over ten years. republicans vowed to block the debate saying health care reform will cost $1.5 trillion. very big gap there. you may get a decent raise next year. that is good news in a bad economy. last year the average raise was just 1.8% and many headlines were about pay cuts, reduced hours. the human resources consulting company says this year most employees will get a raise of 2.5% and far more companies are willing to give out raises. about 80% compared to just half last year. for nearly two years the atlanta skyline has had some visible scars. that's about to change. what it will take to replace

thousands of windows on the downtown circular hotelle.

lawyers for casey anthony say someone else should be considered in the killing of her toddler, caylee. defense attorney jose baez filed a motion last night to introduce you evidence in the murder trial. he says that this man, roy kronk, should be thoroughly investigated by authorities. nearly a year ago kronk reported finding something suspicious which later turned out caylee's remains. a short time ago baez talked with her sister network. >> fully investigate every witness to the best of our ability and as far as our resources will take us.

each and every witness -- this isn't isolated. we'll investigate this case as best we can and get to the bottom of what happened in this case and if we roughly feathers in the process, that's unfortunately something we have to do because we're trying to save casey anthony's life. >> reporter: in response, kronk's lawyer says this -- >> casey anthony is still in jail on murder charges. tonight on "issues with jane velez-mitchell," jane speaks with jose baez about the new defense tactic and talk about

casey and her behavior after caylee's disappearance and the relationship with her parents. don't miss that at 7:00 p.m. eastern time right here on hln. about a half hour from now the man charged with raping and killing 5-year-old shaniya davis will be in a courtroom in north carolina. a search warrant says mario mcneill picked up shaniya from the front of her mother's home and drove 30 miles to a hotel. surveillance video from that tuesday shows him carrying the 5-year-old into the building. monday her mothbody was found s miles from that hotel. authorities believe shaniya was sexually assaulted and died of asphyxiation. her mother was charged with trafficking her daughter and child abuse involving prostitution and so far she's not been charged with murder. last night hln's nancy grace found out davis and her daughter were about to be evicted from their home.

>> i filed eviction papers on miss davis. the decision had been made toward the end of october that she was going to be evicted. we were waiting to see if she was going to pay her rent or if we were going to have to cancel her lease and as it turned out she did not pay her rent. >> what about conditions the child was living in? >> pig sty. absolute pig sty. that's why the police would not let them go back into the home. >> police are investigating whether davis gave her daughter to mario mcneill to settle a drug debt. no funeral arrangements for shaniya have been announced yet. nancy grace will have the latest breaking developments tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. eastern right here. a security expert says the pentagon ignored a report that could have helped prevent the ft. hood shootings. rossmiller said she worked on

the study to help the military spot people like major nidal hasan. >> the report was written from the military perspective and it was entitled radicalization of members of the dod. and what it was for was for them to have tools to look within their ranks to spot different criteria that showed signs and red flags of radicalization and how to spot those, identify them, and then from there be able to head the problem off and so we could avoid anything from materializing. >> she says she contacted the military after the ft. hood shootings to see why no one had mentioned that report. she was told it's now classified. pentagon officials have declined comment. the u.s. military may scale back the number of jets to protect against an air attack. after september 11th, the government designated dozens of planes for that but senior

officers say the chance of air attacks decreased and the military could free up those crews for other missions. one of our i-reporters really captured the mood with those protests on ucla campus this week. look at this. julie says students are frustrated and angry and worried about the 32% tuition hike approved yesterday. by next fall students at all ten uc campuses will have to pay $2,500 more a year for their tuition. that brings the cost to about $10,000 a year. ellerton talked to people who can't afford that including one man who turned his life around by getting an education. >> after a life of crime going through the criminal system, i decided it was time for a change and got into the uc system.

this is my second year. graduate this year. i'm here because i know that this is going to separate from those that have and have not. as fees continue to grow and escalate, who is going to be able to afford education like myself. >> it's ridiculous. i think we're here trying to tell them that if they want us to grow as a society, we need education. >> the uc board of regents had to raise fees because of cuts in the state budget. thanks to julie ellerton for that i-report. if you have reports of cool stories from your part of the world, go to i-report.com and click on the upload now link. oprah makes it official. after a quarter century on the air, she'll walk away from her daytime talk show dynasty.

once she steps down, what is the queen of talk going to do now?

after a quarter century on the air, the queen of daytime talk is calling it quits on network syndication. "the oprah winfrey show" will come to a close in september of 2011. she made the announcement saying i love the show. the show has been my life and i love it enough to know when it's time to say good-bye. sounds like a breakup. 25 years feels right in my bones and feels right in my spirit.

the perfect number. the exact right time. she's shifting her attention to her own cable channel called own, the oprah winfrey network. there's speculation she may start up new talk show there maybe. don't miss "showbiz tonight." who could replace her? ellen? sarah palin? maybe even first lady michelle obama. the great debate on tv's most provocative entertainment show at 11:00 eastern. a church in arizona has been told to stop feeding the homeless. now the aclu offered to help crossroads united methodist. again, they were told to stop feeding the homeless because neighborhood started to complain. homeless were caught relieving themselves in the area. some of them were apparently camping out in people's backyards. this month a judge ruled the church was violating a city

ordinance by serving meals in a residential area. so why not just feed the homeless somewhere else. the pastor told us that this is a city wide ordinance so if the church moves, it can actually set a precedent for other churches in phoenix so that's why they're going this route. the church hasn't decided whether it it will accept help from the aclu but an appeal is set for next month. until then the church will keep feeding the needy. what do you think about this? is this pushing the rule of law too far? maybe you understand where the neighborhood is coming from. i don't know. maybe you do. does helping the less fortunate help supersecede the zoning law? next week cnn will announce its hero of the year.

the top ten finals will be honored on thanksgiving night. what does being a cnn hero mean? we hear about liz mccartney. what a difference a year can make. >> hello. i'm terrence howard. during last year's cnn heroes, an all-star tribute, i had the honor of recognizing cnn's hero of the year, liz mccartney, for her extraordinary work helping survivors of hurricane katrina. they've built 50 more homes in new orleans and another 60 are under construction. as we approach this year's thanksgiving show, let's look at last year's cnn hero of the year, liz mccartney. >> the heros award was a shot in the arm for the region. it reinvigorated people and made them feel like across the country and around the world

people still care. all sorts of doors have been opened for the project as a result of the award. volunteers, clients, donors. i think every week people say i heard about st. bernard project on cnn heroes. in the greater new orleans area there are 10,000 households struggling to secure permanent stable housing. to date over 16,000 volunteers. we are going to be celebrating the 240th home that we've completed. we expanded our capacity and we're also building homes in new orleans but it also helped us start our center for wellness and mental health so it helped us rebuild homes and rebuild people's lives. we're there but there's work to be done. a couple more years and we'll thereby. . the 2009 cnn hero of the year and finalists will be honored at an all-star tribute hosted by anderson cooper on thanksgiving night. a special event you can see only on cnn. for nearly two years the atlanta skyline has had some

pretty visible scars. look at that building right there. what it will take to replace thousands of windows on that circular hotel right there.

deep down we knew drugs played a role in little shaniya davis' death. there's a accusations that her m may have sold her daughter into prostitution to settle a drug debt. the sad thing is this woman also has a 7-year-old child and she's pregnant again. we need to use this tragedy as a starting point to break the cycle of addiction. the fact is, drug abuse is handed down generation to generation. we need to start talking real solutions like family planning,

birth control, and condoms. we need to stop troubled women to continue the cycle of children born to drug addicted parents. this topic may make us squirm butterter better than talking at another dead child. >> find out what else jane has on her mind. you can watch "issues with jane velez-mitchell" 7:00 eastern time here on hln. a man accused of secretly taking nude photos of aaron andrews will be making his first appearance in court in los angeles. 47-year-old michael barrett shot the footage of andrews through the peephole of her hotel room door. prosecutors say barrett tried to sell video to the celebrity gossip site tmz and he uploaded peephole videos of other nude women to the internet. if convicted, barrett could face up to five years in federal prison and a fine. another new set of testing

guidelines for women but unlike this week's mammogram controversy this one is getting support from the american cancer society talking about guidelines for cervical cancer. most women in their 20s only need a pap smear every two years instead of every year and the group says women don't need their first one until they're 21. women over the age of 30 can go over three years after three consecutive clear tests. when a tornado hit downtown atlanta in march of 2008 it did a lot of damage to a lot of buildings including ours especially hard hit was the circular weston hotel. more than 1,000 windows everywe knocked out. crews will have to change out all 6,000 plus windows in$6,0002 million project lasting 15 months. each pane has to be brought up inside the building to be replaced. this process takes about an hour for each window.

obesity is a growing problem and in today's fit nation dr. sanjay gupta exams that and his key tip, watch your portion size. >> many ways there are logical conclusions to be drawn here. it's a case of good news and bad news. good news is that contrary to popular belief teens and adolescents are getting more physical activity and watching television less and spending more time on computer and video games but physical activity is higher but the obesity epidemic continues to grow. what gives here is you might guess it has more to do with diet. diet may play a bigger role when it comes to obesity and have to do with portion sizes.

you talk about portion sizes for spaghetti. 500 calories. typical. one cup of pasta. go to 2010, 20 years2010, it is double. two cups of pasta. lots of meatballs and calories as well. something else commonly eaten, cheeseburgers here in 1993, 333 calories. we've all seen these cheeseburgers 20 years later, almost double the number of calories. the problem becoming more apparent. breakfast food as well is not immune. bagels in 1990, about threaten inches in size, 140 calories. now double, more than twice as many calories. here's the problem. when you look at the obesity epidemic overall, and you're trying to confirm is this more activity related or diet-related, diet is playing a bigger role. that doesn't mean adolescents are getting enough activity. only about a third get the recommended amount of activity as things stand now. that's based on self-reporting. that's where people report how

much activity they are getting. it may overestimate overall. we know that activity has a lot of benefits. it can reduce some of the weight issues that we have but also decrease the risk of developing early heart disease and early diabetes as well. message to parents and the kids, even if your child is getting enough activity, really watch those portion sizes and watch those calories in and calories out. dr. san it's jay gupta, cnn reporting.           

the man accused of kidnapping shania davis now faces murder and rape charges as well. what about shania's mother? why no murder charges for her? and a phoenix church not allowed to feed the homeless? the city says they are violating an ordinance by feeding the hungry. with thanksgiving around the corner, do you think the city is going too far? and say it ain't so, o. after a quarter century on the air, she is walking away from her daytime talk show. once she steps down, what is the queen of talk tooted? it is so good to have you on board with us today. i hope that this friday's treating you well so far as we head into the weekend. welcome to hln news and views.

about a half-hour from now, the man charged with raping and killing 5-year-old shania davis will be in the courtroom. he picked her up in front of her home on the morning of november 10th and then drove more than 30 miles. surveillance video from that tuesday shows him carrying the 5-year-old into the building. now monday, her body was found six miles from the hotel. authorities believe she was sexually assaulted and died of asphyxiation. her mother antoinette davis was charged with trafficking her daughter and child abuse involving prostitution but so far she has not been charged with murder. hln's nancy grace wants to know why. >> why no murder charge on mommy? she handed her child over according to charges for this child to be put into prostitution. a 5-year-old girl, kessler. that's a felony. this is a felony murder.

she, according to police, committed a murder and a death occurred shelf didn't have to plan the murder for her to be charged with a felony murder. >> it's coming. i can't imagine they're thinking maybe there is a state's evidence. they don't have mcneil good enough. >> they don't need her. put kessler back up. you tried plenty of cases them don't need her cooperation. i think she has opportunity plenty. they don't need her to roll over on mcneil. >> maybe they're hoping she will be desperate enough to start talking, talking, talking, hoping to get a deal. >> police are investigating whether she gave her daughter to mcneill to settle a drug debt. no funeral arrangements have been announced yet. nancy will have all the details tonight on hln news and views. lawyers for casey anthony say someone else should be considered in the killing of her

toddler caylee. the lawyer filed a motion for new evidence and he said this man, roy kronk, should be thoroughly investigated by authorities. nearly a year ago he reported finding something suspicious which turned out to be caylee's remains. just a short time ago, he spoke to in session on our sister network tru tv. >> okay. i apologize. we're having some audio problems there. we'll try to bring that to you in a moment regarding what he said. in response to the allegations, kronk's attorney, here's what he is saying.

casey anthony is still in jail on the charges in the death of her young daughter. tonight on "issues," they're going to talk about casey, about her behavior after caylee's disappearance, her relationship with her parents. be sure to join jane velez-mitchell at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on hln. oprah winfrey has made it official during a taping this morning, she said she is pulling the plug on her talk show in 2011 after a quarter century on the air, and really, at the end of the day in our homes. i know that it was busy there a little while ago. has it calmed down there in chicago? >> it has calmed down. it is what is really on many people's minds here. many people's lips. the fact that after about 25 years with her highly successful syndicated talk show, oprah

winfrey is calling it quits. distant stop her legions of fans who lined up, braved the fans in downtown chicago where the "oprah winfrey show" is taped them wanted a front row seat to history as oprah winfrey made that announcement today. i'm quoting here. she explained why now, after decades in the business, she is walking away. to that she said i love this show. this show has been my life. and i love it enough to know when it is time to say goodbye. 25 years feels right in my bones and it feels right in my spirit. it is a perfect number. the exact right time. talk about timing, the timing couldn't be better for another leading lady of daytime talk. ellen degeneres who acknowledged all the work oprah has done over the years and had this to say on her show yesterday. >> i don't think i could be here without her. i think she has blazed a trail that is, she is an amazing, amazing woman. she will always be the queen of

daytime television. and she also said she is leaving me all of her money. which i really -- i was like, thanks, oprah. >> hysterical lady. hilarious, that's why she is so popular, i guess. on a serious note, many in the industry insiders are saying that's perhaps the next person to slide into the spotlight once oprah winfrey signs off. >> interesting because she is already in her own spotlight so much. it will be something to watchful the next 18 months, we still have oprah. thank you so much. we appreciate it as always fwx to see you. don't miss "showbiz tonight." we're still talking about the end of oprah but we're wondering, who could replace her? could it be ellen there? some other names, sarah palin, maybe even first lady michelle obama. the great debate on tv's most provocative news show at 11:00 eastern and pacific. certainly a lot of churches feed the homeless. but one church in arizona is

having to fight for the right to do so. why it's been told to stop handing out hot meals.

a church in arizona has been told to stop feeding the homeless. now the aclu is helping. neighbors started to complain. they said the homeless were caught relieving themselves in the area. even camping out in people's back yards. this month the judge said they violated a city ordinance by serving meals in a residential area. they said this is a citywide ordinance so if the church moves, it could set a precedence for other chufz in phoenix. the church hasn't decided whether it will accept help from the aclu but an appeal is scheduled for next month. until then it plans to keep feeding the needy. this is our views question today. richelle has been following

along with your comments and i understand you have a pretty special interview coming up. >> i do. let's get a taste of what people have been saying. this is a comment from jason on my facebook page. we have someone who has something to say about this. pastor dottie is from the church in question. i think it is cross roads methodist church. she joins us on the phone from phoenix. pastor dottie, thank you. so for your time. how long have you had this ministry where you try to feed the homeless? >> caller: the ministry has been going on for three years. on our site, it has been since january 31st. >> what you do is, you have a bus where you go get them and then bring them to your church, correct? >> caller: some of people walk in. some come on the city bus. some of them we bus in from about a mile away which is where

a neighborhood that's very close to us is filled with people in poverty. >> do you also take responsibility for, and i think, i can't speak for the neighbors but this may be one of the concerns. when you're done with the sxheel with the service that you have, do you also take responsibility for making sure they don't stay in the neighborhood after? >> caller: we have been very, very -- we have worked really hard to hem our neighborhood out. we sat down with them. we have patrol, we have alley checks afterwards to make sure that they're moving back to where theyer. we bus more people back than we do in. so we've been doing everything that we can to create a safe environment for the neighborhood on saturday mornings. >> what are some of the most alarming complaints you have heard from the neighborhood? >> caller: well, what i'm hearing is that there is an expansion of the complaints. so those are xlaunts of trash and then it gets to be a huge complaint that is greater than

what we are seeing in actuality. that's what i'm seeing. there is a kernel of truth to the complaint and that's what we have addressed, the actual truth part of it and trying to be good neighbors to those who are with us to the south but also to be good neighbors to those who live to the north of us which is where the extreme poverty pocket is. >> i hear you zba neighbors. there has been a big discussion going on. this has been our your views topic. some of our viewers say they feel like you have a responsibility to help the poor but they also feel you do have a responsibility to be a good neighbor as well. from what you're saying, you say you take that role very seriously as well to be a good neighbor. >> caller: absolutely. that's our call. we live in this neighborhood that is wealthy and poor. that's where we are. so it is a difficult place to be and it is our hope and dream to bring these two extreme edge groups together so we can have a little place of peace here on earth. >> are there people in the neighborhood that are also members of this church?

>> caller: yes, yes. and there are people in the neighborhood who are very supportive and help out and donate money. we just aren't hearing their voices. we're hearing the voices of those who are complaining or concerned. >> i'm assuming would you say it would be unfair for our viewers to get the impression that the neighbors are being cold-blooded. it's not that simple, is it? >> they're good people. they have good hearts. i will you have in the neighborhood that is making the complaints. i'm one of the neighbors, too. so no, we're not here to bash anybody. we have worked really hard just to bring everybody together and to say, okay, this is our world. let's, how to we work through this problem? and to engage the poor which is our mission. our core value. you can't call us a charity dining hall. we're a church. this is what we do. >> let me get to you hold. while you were talking, scott crosherer just called. he kind of represents the main group that has a problem with what you all have been doing. i'm going to let him speak for himself without putting words in

his mouth. thank you for calling in. what is your main concern with what pastor dottie's church is doing? >> well, two things. i think it is the city's concern. it is a zoning violation. the neighborhood is concerned because we have an entity called prodigy's home. it has bounced around and it has landed at this church that is providing a charity dining hall or a feeding service on saturday mornings. first of all, it is a zoning violation. secondly, it is right next to a preschool. third, go we've had instances where people who have been at this charity dining hall event have come out of it and then been walking along the bridal path near there and soliciting prostitution and third -- >> are these crimes that have been reported, scott? >> caller: they have certainly been called into the police. and it is kind of hard to catch these folks. and then secondly, we've had a situation where an individual was stabbed at the church with an ice pick. they chose to take him to the hospital. and the hospital had to call the police on that one.

we had an instance where an individual came back during the week to the preschool because nobody was there to provide him with any services, and the preschool was trying to get, tefr him and he decided he was hungry and started rifling through children's lunch boxes there in the preschool. i think the bottom line, what we have here is a situation where these people are providing a handout in the form of charity dining, rather than a hand up. there are several organizations, you mom, union i'd method. i outreach ministries, which provide holistic support for the homeless and yet they want to have -- >> scott, it seems -- it seems like that you have a personal issue with the type of ministry that pastor dottie has which may be something entirely different. it seems like your safety concerns may be legitimate. what would you want to say to pastor dottie about the safety concerns as opposed to what your concerns may be about her approach? her approach is her business.

what about the safety concerns, what you have to say to her? >> well, that's why there is a zoning ordinance that restricts these types of operations in residential neighborhoods near where people live and near preschools. and they need to abide by the law just like everybody else needs to abide by the law. it's not pastor dottie. it is prodigal homes which is running this program. not the church. and i think they need to be complying with the law, as does the church. >> all right, scott, hold on. pastor dottie, were you listening to the issues that scott was talking about? he was talking about crimes. some of the things he was saying would quite frankly make some of our viewers concerned if that was happening in their neighborhood. >> caller: yes, it makes me concerned when i hear it, too. if i didn't know what was going on, i would be concerned with that words that scott has passed on. so i can say like i said before, that these are incidents that are not fully the truthful there is a piece of the truthful for example, the stabbed, the guy who was stabbed with an ice pick at the church. did not happen.

i was there at that moment. i was here when it happened. i was here and another person was there. we have affidavits to state that when he said it happened on the day and the moment. it wasn't happening here. >> how about the prostitution claims? >> the prostitution claim was by a neighbor who said she saw somebody who looked like a prostitute up on the street, and i wasn't there. i don't know what that is about. >> okay. we certainly hope that this can be resolved. and pastor dottie, it may just be a legal issue that will have to work its way through the courts. i hope that the two sides can continue to talk though. that's what we certainly hope and that's what our viewers hope. scott, thank you for calling in and representing your side as well. we understand that there is a court date in december. pastor dottie, last question for you. the aclu has offered to step in and help your side. is that something they're still mulling over? >> actually, in the initial stages we heard from several groups like the aclu and currently we're not talking to

the aclu. we don't have an ongoing conversation at this time. as we go forward to proceed, then we will look at our options there but we haven't made any decisions. >> okay. pastor dottie from cross roads methodist church, scott crozier. hopefully you heard both sides of this and we can continue to talk about this today. thank you both for your time. >> that was a great exchange and it really kind of helped explain more of what's going on. some of the underlying problems. thank you so much. a great interview there. you probably already know that americans are fatter than ever. one woman is hoping to motivate others by making her own struggle against obesity very public here. ruby gettinger is this morning's breakthrough woman.

i've been overweight since i was 13. at one point in my life, i weighed as much as 716 pounds and everything started going downhill. then the doctor said i would die. start doing something about it. >> she chose to fight for her life by eating healthy and getting thin her. journey is being documented on the network series ruby. >> watching her eat healthy and exercise has helped me do the same. and because of ruby, i've lost 29 pounds. >> every time i hear their story, it inspires me. >> getting her published a personal diary about her weight challenges and achievements. she also formed a fitness support group called ruby's walk across america. >> the people that are traveling this road with me tell me they've lost 80 something pounds, 100 pounds. that's amazing that they're doing it. >> getting there, she is half her size but she is not finished yet. >> i don't know what the weight goal. is it is not a value number to me.

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as we sit here together, right now, the man charged with raping and killing 5-year-old shaniya davis is scheduled to be in the courtroom. there he is. mario mcneil picked her up and drove more than 30 miles to a hotel in sanford, north carolina. surveillance video from that tuesday here showing him carrying the 5-year-old into that building. monday, her body was found six miles from the hotel. now authorities believe shaniya was sexually assaulted and died of asphyxiation. her mother antoinette davis is charged with trafficking her daughter, and child abuse involving prostitution. so far, she hasn't been charged with murder.

last night nancy grace found out davis and her daughter were about to be evicted from their home. >> i filed eviction papers on miss davis. the decision had been made toward the end of october that she was going to be evicted. we were waiting to see if she was going to pay her rent or if we were going to have to cancel her lease. as it turned out, she did not pay her rent. >> what about the conditions the child was living in? >> pig sty. absolute pig sty. that is why the police would not let them go back into the home. >> police are investigating whether she gave her daughter to mcneill to settle a drug debt. lawyers for casey anthony say someone else should be considered in the killing of her toddler caylee. defense attorney jose baez filed a motion to introduce new evidence and he said this man,

roy kronk, should be thoroughly investigate bid authority. nearly a year ago, remember, kronk reported finding something suspicious which later turned out to be caylee's remains. a short time ago, baez spoke with "in session" on our sister network tru tv. >> we're going to fully investigate each and every witness to the best of our ability. as far as our resources will take us. each and every witness, this isn't an isolated incident to mr. kronk. we're going to investigate this case as pest as we can and get to the bottom of what actually happened in this case. if we ruffle a few feathers in the process, that's unfortunately something we have to do because they're trying to take casey anthony's life. >> in response to the allegations, kronk's attorney said this.

now remember, casey anthony remains jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her young daughter. tonight we have an exclusive for out "issues" with jane velez-mitchell. jane is talking with jose baez. they're going to speak about casey, her behavior after caylee's disappearance, her relationship with her parents and who knows what else could come up. so watch "issues" at 7:00 eastern right here on hln. closing arguments are underway in italy in the murder trial of an american college student. prosecutors say amanda knox and two others killed her british roommate in november 2007 at the home they shared in italy. they say meredith kercher's throat was slit during a sex game. knox is standing trial with her ex-boyfriend. a third man was convicted last

year. this morning on the "today" show, knox's parents say they're worried the jury will believe what italian tabloids have written about the case, rather than basing the verdict on the evidence. >> we've worried all along just because of what has happened, you know, all the false reporting. and to be quite frank, things have not really gone correctly so far. but we have to be hopeful that now it is all public and everything that has been presented in court has been, you know, pretty much good for us. it shows that she is innocent. >> the jury is expected to get the case december 4th and a verdict could come as early as the next day in fact. a security expert says the pentagon ignored a report that could have helped prevent the ft. hood shootings. shannon ross miller said she worked on the 2008 study to help the military spot people like major nidal malik hasan. >> the report was written from the military perspective. it was entitled radicalization

of members of the d.o.d. what it was for was for them to have tools to look within their ranks to spot different criteria. that showed signs and red flags of radicalization. and how to spot those, identify them, and then from there, be able to head the problem off. so we could avoid anything for materializing. >> she said she contacted the military after the ft. hood shootings to see why no one had mentioned the report and she was told it is now classified. pentagon official have declined to comment. the u.s. military may scale back its number of jets to protect against an air attack. after september 11th, the government dedicated dozens of war planes to them but northern command has ordered a review of the costly system. senior officers say if the chances of air attacks have decreased, the military could free up those crews for other missions. al qaeda's message is apparently reaching a brand new audience on the internet here. there has been a spike in the english language websites that

aren't directly tied to al qaeda but promote its goal of jihad against the u.s. this is from a saudi official who come bats military islamic websites. terror experts say the sites could help recruit new al qaeda sympathizers in western countries by eliminating the language barrier. a church in arizona has been told to stop feeding the homeless. and now the aclu has offered to help cross roads united methodist. the phoenix church had been feeding the homeless when neighbors started to complain, saying the homeless were caught relieving themselves in the area, even camping out in some peel's back yards. this month the judge ruled the church violated a city ordinance by serving meals in a residential area. why not just feed the homeless somewhere else? the pastor says this is a citywide ordinance. if the church moves, could it set a precedent for other churches in phoenix. the church hasn't decided whether it will accept help from the aclu but an appeal is scheduled for next month. until then it does plan to keep feeding the needy. we want your thoughts on this

controversy. what if this was your neighborhood? what would you think? does helping the less fortunate supersede the zoning laws in place? e-mail us at cnn.com/hln. or call us now. text us or get on our facebook pages. we would love to hear from you. the queen is giving up her throne. talking about oprah winfrey. she talked about her big farewell to daytime tv.

you have mixed emotion. it is exciting to be there but

it is also sad. >> i was in there thinking, where were you when this and that event happened? we know where we were when she announced she wouldn't be on anymore. we were there. >> yes. after a quarter century on the air and in our home there, the queen of daytime talk oprah winfrey calling it quits on network syndication. the "oprah winfrey show" will end september 9th, 2011, when its 25th season come to a close. she made this official announcement during her taping this morning saying i love this show. this show has been my life. i love it enough to know when it time to say goodbye. 25 years feels right in my bones, it feels right in my spirit. it's the perfect number. the exact right time. now she is shifting her attention to her cable channel called o, the oprah winfrey network which is set to launch in january 2011. there is speculation that she may start a new talk show at that location. don't miss "showbiz tonight."

really? who can replace oprah? some other name, sarah palin, maybe even first lady michelle obama. 11:00 eastern and pacific. one of our i-reporters really captured the mood of the protests on the ucla campus this week. look at this. thank you to julie who says students there are frustrated, they're angry, they're worried about the 32% tuition hike approved yesterday. thank you to her for bringing us this. by next fall, students at all ten u.c. campuses will have to pay $2,500 more for tuition which brings the cost to about $10,000 a year. she talked to some people who just can't afford that, including one man who managed to turn his life around by getting an education. >> after a life of crime, going

through the criminal system, i decided it was time for a change. i got into the u.c. system. this is my second year. i graduate this year. i'm here because i know this is going to separate from those that have and have not. as fees continue to grow and escalate, who will be able to afford education? like myself. >> this is ridiculous. we're here fighting. we're here to tell people if they want to grow as a society, as a nation, we needed indication. >> the u.c. board of regents says it has to raise fees because of severe cuts in the state budget. thank you for sharing that i-report for us so we could see what it was like from your perspective. we want to encourage you if you have pictures or video of breaking news from your part of the world, we would love to see them. go to i-report.com and we'll tell you how to submit your stories. senators are cutting their

thanksgiving vacation short to vote on the health care reform. in a rare move, they'll meet tomorrow to decide whether to open debate on the democrats' plan. would it extend coverage to at least 30 million people and an estimated cost of 848 billion over ten years will on the flip side, republicans have vowed to block the debate saying health care reform will cost $1.5 trillion. there is another new setf