speaking society, some club. the famous speech, "i have a dream." and free at last. free at last. at last, free at last. that part keeps coming back to my brain over. . .

the mind and body are connected in buddhism. what kind of mind you have is important. when i always hear the martin luther king speeches, it always comes out of the mind of the person, so it's have been as for ourselves and for the other people as well. we bring happiness to all the people, not just myself but the other people. having a source of action. anger creates more ancger, in

buddhism. in terms of what kind of mind we have, that is an important part of buddhism. also, i do not involve a lot of peace movements, because it i am from japan, so far for that experience, the atomic bomb. i was that bad we had a piece museum -- i wish that we had a peace museum in front of the white house. that would be amazing. [laughter] i have a dream that someday i will establish this peace museum in this country so that people can appreciate the practice of peace. i was thinking of my happiness

and others have been is together. my point is what kind of mind you have to do any action. [applause] >> father daniel barrigan is an internationally known peace activist, a roman catholic priest. father? >> i did a lot of thinking these past weeks of the topic of this evening, the heritage of dr. king. then i thought of the -- of the treasury transmitted to us. what does it mean to be an heir

in possession of this heritage. then i came upon an extraordinary doctor went that i had never heard of or had forgot about that was in april 1968 in new york city in central part. dr. king had been murdered shortly before. bobby kennedy was to paris that same summer. as though this was not a litany enough of errors, on a personal note, --died accidentally in bangkok in december of that same year. but i wanted to refer especially to the magical excess

of this gathering in central park led by coretta scott king. weeks after the death of her husband. she has this to say. all "my dear friends, the peace and freedom, i come to new york today with a strong feeling of my husband snatched suddenly from our missed three weeks ago. you would've wanted me to be present today. though my heart is heavy with grief, from having suffered an irreparable loss, my faith is strong for today than ever before. i have suffered an irreparable loss and my faith is stronger than it ever was. as many of you probably know, my husband had accepted the invitation to speak to you today. paddy been here, -- had he been

here, i'm sure there would have been a higher level of understanding. i want to share something. he scribbled notes on paper for his speeches. among these notes was once said he never delivered, perhaps they were his early thoughts for what he was to give you today. i will read them to you as he recorded them. and i quote, "on vietnam, about shalt not believe in military victory. second, thou shalt not believe in political victory. third, about shalt not believe those of vietnamese -- us.

domicello i believe the saigon government has the support of people. 5, thou shalt not believe the majority of the south vietnamese look upon the vietcong as terrorists. 6, bell south not believe the figures of enemies that have killed americans. 7, bows out not believe that the generals want -- >> tao shall not believe --thou shalt not believe the world supports the united states. 10, thou shalt not kill. well, i am speechless, all to

your benefit. [laughter] i found myself so transformed by those lines. it was like stepping through a very meticulous mirror. thank you. [applause] >> thank you so much. this is rich material. i'm sorry we have to move rapidly. a minute and a half responses. a few questions i will raise. remember that you will have an opportunity to write down questions for me to raise as well. dr. butts, you're a student at morehouse in the 1960's. you attended some rallies and heard dr. king lecture.

it is no wonder that you were deeply moved by his death. what do you find in the contemporary black community of the deep feelings that you have for dr. king? is that shared? is it fading? what is his legacy today in the african-american community? >> i think his legacy is strong, but the deep feeling i stared at that time concerning his life- and-death, i do not believe, except for those in my immediate age range or older or just a bit younger, are shared today. dominik people of all races do not know who dr. the kindle was -- many people of all races. the materialism has greatly

influenced our society for the worst in a sense that when dr. king -- when you know that dr. king died essentially broke, he did not have a lot of money, when he rest all for any of the -- like any of the profits we have mentioned, for the sake of social justice, that feeling in not just the african-american community, let me say that strongly, in most of our communities of any faith is just about gone. and so, i think that -- and then you have to remember something else. that was very much a part of me and a lot for my generation. i think that my faith was

inherited, initially. it was passed onto me. many of our young people today, far too many don't go to synagogue or church or temple or the mosque. in the united states. they really don't understand the depth of dr. king's spirit 12 a and the spirituality of the young men and women who were with him -- dr. king's dispirito alspirituality. we are poorer as a nation because of that. >> we are meeting just a few blocks from where the world trade center stood.

the consequences of that day, one of the consequences has been and rising fear of and misunderstanding of the muslim community. is there something to be learned from dr. king in how the muslim community faces the situation today? >> absolutely. his legacy and example is such a treasure for our community. you know, there are many sad stories about our young people these days, the kind of discrimination they are suffering. our children are post-9/11 children have gone through and are going through great tara chips. they regularly face threats and

discrimination. they are called terrorists. called all sorts of names. this feeling anger @ being mistreated and unfairly targeted is the natural emotional reaction. we need a good role models. we need to give our young people an alternative to anger. i remember sitting with my son who is 16 now a few years ago, working with him on a project for martin luther king jr. day. it was such a wonderful time to discuss his feelings of being picked on and make sure he did not become a victim. so it is an enormously rich and

powerful resource for us to speak as it to the example of his role model. which is all the more powerful for us as a community because it is reflected in the examples of earlier profits, including our own profit muhammed, who after the persecution of his community, after the persecution and murder of a very close family members when he was then in the position of power, declared amnesty in the city of mecca for those who had persecuted his community. so we have bad example from our own religious history as well as a very contemporary, palpable example that is so important for us. and i am so grateful to god for giving us this great man. >> i just want to make two quick points.

in a day of fighting martin luther king -- in making martin luther king and david d., we are forgetting that martin luther king, himself, was subjected to harassment, a violation of civil liberties, almost forcing his wife into suicide, i am talking about the government of the united states. j. edgar rule for and the fbi and the government of the united states in seeking to destroy martin luther king. the argument then was communism. he is too close to communism. we have to silence martin luther king. that was the government of the united states. if martin luther king were

alive, about the iraqi war i have no doubt what he would say and about the harassment and persecution of innocent people because of their religious beliefs. he would be a very strong advocate of those constitutional liberties which are being eroded before our eyes. the second point is i am grateful for what you said. it is important what you said. i'm very proud that your organization and my organization, the reformed jewish movement, have entered into a united relationship to do with precisely these issues, to reach out to the positives, 3 tao to the people that respect tolerance and diversity and who are willing to fight to the advocates of torture and harassment and violence.

willing to speak out. one of the most important things was not said by martin luther king. it was said by a refugee from berlin, a rabbi. he said, ladies and gentlemen, there's one thing worse than bigotry and that is silence. martin luther king would not be silenced by the hatred today. >> father berrigan, what has happened -- your radicalism grew out of your catholic spirituality. what happened to the spirituality in that tradition and the other traditions that has left us seemingly without the kind of passion needed to address some of the various

issues that we have just heard mentioned? >> well it is a very large picture. we're almost out of time. [laughter] seems to me that when the truth is in the air, even when it is not being well-received, the world must find new forms and grace to bring on a blossom and a harvest. seems to me in the catholic community that to the truth flourishes underdress at the bottom of a social pyramid. if the jesuits are big in their institutions, something else will be happening across the street among the homeless and

the poor. there will be anti-war and civil disobedience. it will take the form of --still active in the country. that idea of separating the helpless and the hopeless and looking to a war as the cause of bringing misery and the occasion of human misery is an inside that was very precious to me in my younger years. -- was the first one in my experience to connect the war and the experience and the c- span.org -- and the [unintelligible] that connection stayed with me

and helped me take the next step. >> i want to ask a question of you. >> i grew up in west tennessee during the civil rights movement. i know what dr. king was called. i know the threats made against him. recently you and i were at a meeting at the council on foreign relations. we listened to a brilliant lecture on situations around the world, all of which involved military conflict. i remember you raised your hand to asked, " are there no alternatives to military conflict?' i have heard the bad guys speak many times but i have never seen him stunned. you stunned him. how is it for you to live in a

nation that has the propensity for settling matters violently and you keep talking about non- violence? >> yes. well, it is certainly difficult. eastern tradition and western traditions are very different. in western tradition you have to talk. normally i sit silent. but on this panel i have talked. -- i have to talk. it's kind of painful. [laughter] silence brings the intelligence in the east. but because you don't know, you talk.

at the same time talking is very important in the eastern tradition as well. but that should becoming -- but that thought should be coming out of the silence. you cannot stop the violence and -- you cannot stop the silence and then you talk. for us we don't say yes or no or this is right or this is wrong. each one -- nobody knows what is 100% right or 100% on either. when you get angry, it is not knowing whether it is yes or no. maybe a% yes. other people might know 20% yes, the right thing. part of the eastern tradition is trying to understand the other.

not pushing my way. if you say you are just, it does not necessarily mean that is so. in eastern thinking because of the war is people believing they know the truth. sometimes it is difficult for me to say what i think. anger may force you to move something but at the same time you should have the mind of loving kindness or loving your neighbor. if you don't have a neighbn ideo love your neighbor -- you

need to have something beyond that anger. that is the foundation for me. >> someone is going to bring questions from the audience. while that is happening, dr. butts, what is your favorite memory of martin luther king jr.? wow. >> wow. i believe that it has to be, without question, there are two. one is the march on washington speech. i was watching it on television. i started out watching it while i was lying down. when it was over i was standing

straight up. [laughter] it is something i did not witness, the second thing, something i heard and i read, which is he was sitting in his kitchen after terrorists-type attacks on his family and his talhome and monday was wondering if it was worth it and he felt he was going to give up. the scene was a naked light bulb hanging over his head, of their kitchen table, the profits sitting there, just him and god. he said that at that moment of deep despair and frustration and resignation, he heard the collective unconscious of its people speak, in the words of the negro spiritual, "sometimes

i feel discouraged and think my works in vain, but then the holy spirit revives my soul against." and he got up and kept working. >> ok. whoever wants to answer, answer and do it as deeply as you can, please. this could go on a long time. regarding the statement, the constitution is god's dr. meand, where does micah huckabee get off? how can we tolerate such a lack of tolerance? >> the individual person who speaks in a sense that you argue for debate at or refute what has

been said, you don't say nothing. you will try to say it as intelligently as you can. you would hope god would give you the words to respond. but certainly if you feel that anyone has made a statement that is just so out of line with what you believe and who you are, then you have to try to the best of your ability to say something about it. >> i think most of the statements about religion and faith that have been made in this political campaign to as much more harm than good. as a person struggling with faith, i have to say that i think all of us have fallen into a trap. what about the american without

faith? what about nobody being able to run for political office by beginning his speech saying i am an atheist or knocks an agnosti. sometimes conflict leads to a lack of faith. i don't think religious leaders have a firm enough understanding of the importance of that principle in american life. [applause] >> the legacy of reverend king has special relevance to our young people, he lived stinnett -- they live steepen conflict among themselves as to families. how can we contribute to raising that spiritual consciousness if the collective humanistic of view is experiential?

how can it be brought where people are not used to -- where people are not wed to that particular faith? >> i'll pass. but i don't have the faith ebither. >> how can we contribute to raising the spiritual essence or consciousness among our young people is the question. >> part of the buddhist practice, we never separate faith from daily life. we should try to be understanding of others or simply doing a kind at. that itself is a very spiritual thing. we don't divide spirituality from the other life. that may be a problem.

i feel like it should not be separate in my case. you try to live your life police and try to understand the meaning of life. that is really a spiritual. maybe more spiritual than the people who go to church. they are really aware of the influence in their life. >> on monday, the martin luther king holiday, the malls will be filled in long island and new york city -- the malls are mostly segregated. what and where is the hope? >> you cannot let secularization of a day like king's birthday or the celebration of his birthday destroy hope.

hope is everywhere you see anyone, anywhere you see anyone celebrating the day in terms of reading and inspiring or just in general working or providing a better quality of life for any human being anywhere. every profit has been -- proh het has been destroyed and people thought the pope had died. yet we continue to s-- hope has. yet we continue to see the expression of our spirituality everywhere. if it's an african-american running for president or a woman running for president. if it is the fact that more and more people are beginning to be

engaged in protests against this war. whatever it is. so the malls can fill up all they want and people can sell cars and have a martin luther king birthday sale. hope rings eternal. every time i turnaround in today's world with all the negativity, there is something that happens that says, there it is, there is the reason to keep on living, the reason to keep on working. we will see that god is not finished. we will see somewhere, sometime soon it a major move of god that will confound us all to say, wow, look at that, i never thought.

people saw martin luther king jr. marching, the laws changing, african-americans, women, a jewish persons gaining in society. people said they never thought it would happen. wow, look at that. but it was bloodshed. there were lynchings and killings, but it happened. >> father, this is from someone in the audience. "i was privileged to be one of your students at cornell university. in the fall of 1967 you awakened my conscience by your deep, thoughtful responses to the war and by your own actions. i have been waiting 40 years to thank you. how do we inspire students today?" >> well, i was teaching at

lincoln center at the present war broke out. i happen to recall most eerily my responsibility toward the unpeople because we were entering another war. i would reflect on the fact that in my life i had been a strongly by an unusual example and it had not been affected by precept. so i thought the best offerings i could make these young people was to do something about the war. so we did. i spoke to them about what was pending. we would walk across manhattan to the induction center in times square and block the doors. i invited them along.

most of them had never seen a scene like this before. it was awakening. then many of us were arrested and taken away. then we had to go the court. i said, come along to see how we will be treated. it was mostly boring and took most of the day. i said to them, we are now at going now at-- but if you're going back to college, i wish you'd tell them what you saw today. getting the word out in a real way that involves some of not playing the bystander. so they're writing began to

change. they began to engage in questions of conscious and violence and what kind of response would be fit the human kind. they began to be arrested. then i began to deal with their peers and their parents in solidarity. the circle increased. of awareness and anger and acceptance and growth. it was quite a time. so that was a very simple minded way i operated. offer something concrete about your own life as a legacy that might be worthy of dr. king. >> i think iwho wants to respond -- anyone who wants to respond

to this question may. but dr. butt, in particular. was it random that martin luther king was african- american, or is there something inherent to the culture or movement that came forth? could someone like him have existed in another ethnicity at another time? >> not only did daycould today,t they did. there have been prophets, presidents, and poets. there were talking about the beloved community. isaiah and those guys did not have an easy time of it. jesus -- you heard what are sister said about the profit

muhammed -- prophet. and the president -- thomas jefferson, he was not a king type. one of our expressions that god writes straight on clickable minds. all me-- on crooked lines. all men are created equal, he did not come out of that tradition. so, absolutely, across history. dr. king, that is why i said, in the midst of the presentation of that speech on television on the next few days or any of this week, some youngster, god knows from whatever religious background, humanistic background, is going, what?

he or she is going to become engaged somehow. it will be unbelievable what will happen. i want to say one more thing. we are talking about spirit to melody and how it influences are social action -- dispirito a -- talking about spirituality. you cannot ever underestimate the power of evil. it is one thing some people don't want to deal with. martin luther king jr. got assassinated. they shot him. jesus was crucified. we can go on and on. when we. hop -- when we talk about hope -- and the evil that opposes us is not coming after us in polite

discussion. you knew about hitler and what he was trying to do. this is overwhelming. many people will not engage in the strugglea. nger is usually-- anger is usually a mask for fear. we are gripped by this. what do you think about your king now? that was the phone call we got. he is dead now. that sent shock waves. because none of us in here is ready to die. if we understand that as an expression of our sacrifice, then we gotta it. >> one of your sermons, i cannot say i fully embrace it, but i tried. he ended a sermon of reflection

upsetting, " fear not at the door, faith answered. there was no one there." i started by quoting dr. king in saying, "to go forward, we must look back. and we discover the moral foundations of all significant social change." this evening we have looked backed in order to go forward. we have received great council by this wonderful panel, which as we prepared to go, i hope you'll join me in thanking them. [applause]

hos[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2010] >> on washington journal this morning, more about relief efforts in haiti. from the center of international studies, our guest it will join us. and former head of the security administration discusses the failed bombing attempt on the northwest airlines flight. and you may call your questions to co-authors about a book about the 2008 presidential campaign called "game change." washinton journal is every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> one of the top 3 news applications for your ipod or i touched is c-span radio.

there c-span radio, c-span, and c-span 2. there are links and it's all free, and available from the application stohr. >> former secretary of state: powell spoke at a citizenship ceremony in washington on this martin luther king holiday. following his remarks, people took the citizenship oath, known as the oath of allegiance. this is 15 minutes. >> good afternoon. i am the director of u.s. citizenship and immigration services. i represent the women and men here today and around the world who worked hard to make this day possible. in a minute a unique individual will stand before you to share his thoughts about the special decks in your lives and in the lives of our country. he was our nation's 65th

secretary of state, the 12th chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the national security adviser to president ronald reagan, and the recipient of numerous military and civilian awards, including two presidential medals of freedom, the president's citizens medal, and the congressional gold medal. in his 35 years of service in the u.s. army, he rose to the rank of four store -- --star general parity represents a great journey. one that stretches far back in time and reaches into a better tomorrow that he helped to make possible. it is a journey that speaks to the power of character and hard work and of our nation's promise of opportunity. it is a journey that in this country began decades ago when his parents arrived as

immigrants like you and me. it is my privilege to welcome general colin powell who honors us today with his presence. [applause] >> thank you very much for your kind words. i wish you all the best as you continue with the important work you'll be doing for those trying to reach our shores and especially those in haiti suffering today. it's a great pleasure to be with you all today, i am especially pleased to be here to celebrate the 81st birthday of dr. martin luther king jr., as we fittingly reflect -- refreshed our nation with 81 new citizens, citizens of the state i happen to live in now, the state of my virginia, homy home.

we all have in our minds the tragedy that occurred in haiti last week. our present hearts go out to gowho have suffered -- to those who have suffered terrible losses. i'm proud of the response of the american government and the international community. but much more needs to be done. it will take a long time to restore stability and to get haiti back on its feet. all of us have an opportunity to help in this regard. by donating money to the many relief efforts that are at work. all of these efforts working so hard to help the haitian people. our new citizens, i know, will do what they can to help those in need. dr. martin luther king jr. was the leader of the forces for freedom and equality in america's second civil war. racism and segregation and

depression of african-americans did not end with the end of the first civil war in 1865 and the passage of the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. in the decades that followed, segregation, and the separation of races was enforced by law and by practice. slowly over the alt -- long years after the civil war, the inconsistencies of these policies, with the sacrifices made in the civil war, and the clear mandate in our declaration of independence that all men are created equal, for america to look into a mirror to see that the image of america that was in that mirror did not reflect the america we wanted, did not live up to the dreams our founding fathers had. we needed another civil war. this time not a violent one on the battlefield of virginia, but a war of ideas and of values, a

war of protest to shatter that mirror, to shatter that image and create a new reflection of our hopes for a more perfect union. revolutions need leaders, leaders prepared as our founding fathers were, pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to achieve the goal. there were many such leaders in our second civil war, but none were > dr. martin luther king jr.. dr. king was an man for all seasons, a man for all people. the dream he had for america was a dream he had for the entire world. in the shadows of the oppressed people of the world, anywhere his name was spoken, light was shining. anywhere his words were repeated, a prayer was answered. anywhere his beliefs were studied, hope began to grow. he was a hero for the ages. few men or women have ever had such powerful good.

a national holiday that we are celebrating today is a great tribute to dr. king. what he would be prouder still to know that this holiday has become a day of service that we can see in the activities taking place outside this library in the streets of washington, d.c. under his leadership the second civil war was won. america is a much better place, a place of tolerance and diversity that in a few minutes will welcome all of you. weren' he here today, he would tell us there is much more to do, that we must continue to struggle until every american has the potential to live his own dream. the 81 candidates before us today are marching for their dream. they are about to participate in a remarkable ceremony, that is remarkable because there is no other country on the face of the earth where such a diverse group

of men and women, natives of faraway lands have come together to square their allegiance to a new nation that will become their home forever. we see before us three dozen such individuals, all of lowho m in a few moments will become american citizens. there is no other nation has embraced its arms to embrace the dreams and aspirations of humankind. america is a nation of nations. we have touched every nation and every nation touches us in return. this is our history. this is our provision. this is the source of our strength. this is what makes us such a vibrant country and the leader of a world that wants to be free. america's greatness has been achieved by waves of immigrants that have come to this land over the past 400 years. america has been enriched by the talents, skills, languages,

values that came here over the centuries in the person of our immigrant citizens. it is this joining together of the burris people that has also made us so durable and resilience of society. just as a bridge table gets its strength from many strands of wire woven together for common purpose. and in pursuit of our common purpose, you are not asked to abandon your origins or ignore the ties you have to your native lands. you'll keep your roots and from them given rs meant to this new land of yours. nowhere else on earth can this miracle of assimilation be witnessed with such vibrancy and profusion. almost 90 years ago a short little man stepped off a banana boat in the port of philadelphia. he was a labor. he had not even finish high school. his name was luther powell.

a few years later a short beautiful lady named maude buccola stepped off a somewhat nicer ship called the -- and she stepped off at ellis island. she was also a jamaican. she had a high school degree. luther and mod came to america because it was a place of pope, a place of opportunity, -- a place of hope, where your ability to work hard was your only limitation. it was so much better than a place they had to leave. not that they did not love it, but they needed economic opportunity. luther and maude got married in new york city and had a wonderful marriage until they both met their fates and went on to live with the lot -- with god.

it was fun to watch them get into arguments with one another. my mother would end the argument by whispering under her breath, " he never finished high school." that was her ultimate put down of my father. it was amusing to me and my sister and my cousins. they had two children. one became very successful as a teacher. one went on to be a soldier. in one generation the hopes and dreams of my immigrant parents were met and surpassed. so it has been over 200 years in glorious cycle, another which begins this afternoon here in this library it, named for a man smiling down on the affirmation, this affirmation of america's purpose. the o's you are about to take will require you to assume the responsibilities of citizenship. you'll be asked to support and defend the constitution of the 90 states -- of the united

states and denounce allegiance to your native land. there are other obligations that come with citizenship. to raise strong families and children to become our next generation of leaders, builders, and keepers of the flame of liberty. the work hard to support yourselves and families, and to contribute to the common needs of our nation through your generosity and by being good citizens. to participate in the political process actively. the political process that fuels our democratic system. first of all, devote for those it who will govern you. this is one of the greatest privileges and responsibilities of a citizen. -- to vote. to keep informed about the news of the day, to watch the news, to listen to arguments you read about in the newspaper. we must give our informed political consent to our political leaders. participate in your community.

join a parent-teacher association. join your school board. go to a place of worship. neighbourhood association you should become members of. run for political office is -- if that is your inclination. be a good neighbor. serve your community. to give some part of your time or talent and your treasure for those in need in their communities. wiig -- what we want from you most of all and what i suspect we already have is for you to love america and to be proud of being american citizens. pursue your dreams. take care of your new country. travel your american journey. the motto of the united states is kiepura bus phone number -- e pluribus unin, meaning one is

meny. god bless you and god bless america. [applause] >> the special election to fill the massachusetts senate seat of the late dan gaddy -- ted kennedy is today. you will see the results tonight on c-span. we spoke with a reporter about the outlook for the race. >> jonathon martin it is in massachusetts covering the senate race. several polls were released today about the race, including one for the politico. >> it shows scott brown has a sizable lead that is outside the margin of error, which is to say it surpasses the three or

four-point margin. it is shocking. few democrats weeks ago thought that he had a chance to win. they thought the race would be closer than expected, but barry to people --and even -- very few people --even democrats were expecting him to win like this. he could pull off one of the most shocking upsets in recent political history. >> how are the campaign's reacting? >> the democrats are scrambling to sound the alarm, to shake up the democrat out of their complacency, by emphasizing the less favorable elements of his record. running as a republican in this state. democrats are trying to point

out why that is. the republicans are enjoying a lot of energy from their supporters, to maximize on that going into election day and not lose that before the voters go to the polls. >> what is the mood among voters? >> very discontent. one of the congressman told mehe he has people angry at the political status quo. if you are angry, then you are probably four scott brown. he is leading among independent voters. his message is less ideological than many. when you have a democratic majority in the state government, and in washington, and you are running as a republican, then that is a

pretty effective message, saying you can take on the establishment that right now is unpopular. >> jonathon martin, thank you. .