freedman's new book, ago the will of the people." america and the courts at 7:00 p.m. eastern, here on c-span. sunday on "washington journal," the launch of a right-wing think tank. also roben farzad of "business week." then, relief efforts in haiti. sunday on newsmakers, senator bob corker on how republicans and democrats might find agreement on a bill to regulate wall street. >> there is the issue of consumerñiq protectsñ.

having a freestanding agency is a nonstarter with me. i don't know how i could be more clear. i know that senator dodd knows that. i think he knows that the bill is not going to pass the senate that has a freestanding consumer protection agency, and i sense a willingness on both sides of the aisle to seek a balance so that consumer protection certainly is increased, because there were lapses there, but it is not in any way overwhelm the safety and soundness side of bank regulation and financial institution regulation. we cannot lead a trump the safety and soundness side. i sense there is a desire to see that balance. what we need to do is build a little trust. that is to work through those issues on the front end that we know we can reach consensus on.

i think it will get to a consensus on derivatives and on systemic risk and on resolution, making sure the whole notion of too big to fail leaves the american vocabulary and people know that if a company fails, it is going to fail. >> you can see this entire interview on "newsmakers." yesterday, president obama signed legislation that installs at pay as you go rule that requires a new federal spending measures to be offset by budget cuts or revenue increases. he talks about this in his weekly online address. then you will hear from the center lindsey gramm who discusses president obama's decision to try khalid sheikh mohammed and other defendants in civilian court as opposed to military tribunals.

>> all across america, people work hard to meet their responsibilities. you do your job, take care of your family, pay your bills. sometimes, particularly in times like these, you have to make hard choices about where to spend and where to save. that is what being responsible means. it is a bedrock value of our country. it ought to be of value that our government lives up to as well. over the past decade, this is not always been the case. 10 years ago we had a big budget surplus with projected surpluses for into the future. those surpluses are gone. when i first walked through the door, the government's budget deficit stood at $1.30 trillion with a budget gap over the next decade projected to be $8 trillion. partly, the recession is to blame. millions of people are out of work and millions of families face hardship. books are paying less in taxes while seeking more services.

what has made these large deficits possible was the end of the common-sense roll call pay as you go. it says to congress, you have to pay as you go. you cannot spend a dollar unless you cut a dollar elsewhere. this is our responsible family or business manages the budget. this is how responsible government manages a budget as well. this helped lead a balanced budgets of the 1990's. with the abandonment of this rule, previous administrations were able to pass massive tax cuts for the wealthy and create an expensive new drug program without paying for any of it. in a perfect world, congress would not have needed a lot to act responsibly, to remember that every dollar spent would

come from taxpayers today or our children tomorrow. but this is not a perfect world. this is washington. while in theory there is bipartisan agreement on moving forward on balanced budgets, in practice, this responsibility for the future is often overwhelmed by the politics of the moment. it falls prey to the pressures of special interest groups and to our reality familiar to every american, the fact that it is easier to spend a dollar and save one. that is why this rule is necessary. i am pleased that congress will fill my request to restore it. last night i signed a pay-as- you-go rules into law. now congress will have to pay for what it spends, just like xdeverybody else. thatxd isxd not all we must do. critical and lay a foundationq for growth more by cutting taxes forñr smal businesses or investing in education or promoting clean energy and modernizing our roads and railways, we have to continue to go through the budget line by line, looking for

ways to say. we have to cut where we can to afford what we need. this year, i have proposed another $20 billion in budget cuts. i have also called for a freeze in government spending for three years. it will not affect benefits for medicare, medicaid, or social security. it will not affect benefits for veterans. it will affect the rest of the budget. i proposed a bipartisan fiscal commission to provide recommendations for long-term deficit reduction. indian, solving our fiscal challenge so many years in the making be in the end, it will take both parties coming together, putting politics aside and making choices about what we need to spend and what we do not. it will not happen any other way. unfortunately, this proposal was recently blocked. so i will be creating this commissioned by executive order. american people are tired of politicians who talk the talk

but do not walk the walk when it comes to fiscal responsibility. it is easy to get in front of the cameras and rant against exploding deficits. what is hard is actually getting deficits under control. that is what we must do. like families across the country, we have to take responsibility for every dollar we spend. with the return of pay-as-you-go as well as other steps, that is exactly what we are doing. thanks. >> i am center lindsey gramm of south carolina. the obama administration decision to prosecute the mastermind of 9/11 and four other co-conspirators in civilian court in new york city makes no sense to most americans, including me. all these cases ]

from an act of war on our homeland since the civil war. never before have we allowed non-citizens enemy combatants captured on the battlefield access to our civilian courts, riding them witó the same constitutional rights as american citizens. terry should not receive more rights than a nazi war criminal. it is not the time to go back to the pre 9/11 mentality of fighting crime instead of fighting the war. a civilian trial is unnecessarily dangerous and creates more problems than it solves. the former attorney general was the presiding judge in the 1995 trial involving the first attempt to blow up the world trade center, and has warned that using civilian courts in terror trials, the same concerns were recently echoed by the bipartisan chairman of the 9/11 commission.

in the 1995 trial, the government was required to disclose the identity of all known co-conspirators to the defense. one of the co-çóconspirators, relatively obscure at the time, was osama bin laden. the conviction was obtained in the trial, but a valuable intelligence was compromise. the rest is history. civilian trial create confusion. intelligence services are already uncertain as to what rules apply. the case in point, the christmas day bummer. as we all know, this was a failed attempt to blow up but -- a christmas day bomber. he was read his miranda rights within one hour of questioning and ask for a lawyer. days later, and only after his parents encouraged him to cooperate, did he begin talking again. can we rely on the parents of future terrorist to work with

the fbi? is that any way to fight a war. the new york city police commissioner, mayor, and other leaders have all expressed concern these trials could last for years and end up costing over a billion dollars. the trials should not take place in new york or any other civilian court. to do so ignores the fact we are at war. i believe there is a better way. i have been military lawyer for almost 30 years and have great confidence in our military justice system. with the goal of protecting our nation, military law allows us to collect bible intelligence without reading miranda rights to enemy combatants reject to conduct military intelligence. as one of the chief of course, i am proud of the revised military commission act of 2009, which created military tribunals for unlawful enemy combatants, a

system not available in 2002 to deal with the issue bomber, richard b.. this lot was passed after extensive consultation with the obama administration and received overwhelming bipartisan support. above all else, it is built around the idea that we are a nation at war. khalid sheikh mohammed and his co-conspirators should have their charges reinstated before military commissions and quickly be tried by our military. these trials will be conducted by the same men and women who administer justice to our own troops. there are competent professionals with a great understanding of their obligations under the law. it is a system of justice that allows us to move securely forward in this war while upholding our values. for the good of the nation, i hope the obama administration will alter their policy. military tribunals are thexd bet way to render justice, when this

war, and protect our nation from a vicious enemy. may god bless the united states and pl those rráqiwg to defendxdñr our way of life. >> coming up on "the communicators," brad smith. later on america and the courts, a panel of law professors on the supreme court and public opinion. sunday and "washington journal," the role in launching a new right-wing think tank. also a discussion on the federal reserve's effort in helping the u.s. economy. after that, the recent trip to

haiti and relief efforts there. that is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span. it is the only collection of american presidential portraits painted by one artist. american presidents, like portraits. see the entire collection on- line at c-span's website. this week on "the communicators ," a discussion about the future of what is called cloud computing with brad smith of microsoft. his company is asking for new rules to protect business information. this program was recorded in january. >> our guest became general counsel of microsoft in 2002 and serves as the head of the department of legal and corporate affairs. welcome to c-span and welcome to "the communicators. çómr. smith, you are in town to

talk about a topic i do not know if a lot of people know about, cloud computing. how would you describe it to the average person? >> it is about connecting a smart computing device with the ability to run data remotely. if anyone has ever used a web based email like yahoo!, you have used cloud computing, because you have been storing your e-mail of in a data center. >> here you are talking about these issues. >> this is an important partçóçf the future of technology.